My Democracy Officer personally recommended that I review this old war footage. He said that it will surely give us the leg up if we are to battle for freedom once again with this futuristic foe, and I agree with him wholeheartedly. For Liberty! For Democracy! For Super Earth!
For HD2 players trying to scout info on the future faction, here is a brief summary of their HD1 characteristics: The main threats are input inversion effects and wall generation. Input inversion is exactly what you think it is, and impact both movement, aim and stratagem inputs. All elite units can do that, either via projectiles (those can be destroyed by damaging them) or AoE centered on the emitter. SH-20 bubble shield is a counter to that, as it protects from any control while active. The spherical units are called Obelisks, and do nothing but generate and maintain a wall of force. They can do only one at a time and expose their vulnerable core when doing so, but the wall one shots everything when generated, Illuminates can pass through them, and Obelisks spawn in hordes in highest difficulties, so you can stay locked within the walls. Usual strategies against them are lobbed trajectory weaponry to shoot above the walls and LIFT Jump Pack to escape them. Other units are snipers, invisible melee attackers, melee attackers with dodging and slowing projectiles, drone patrollers with shields and inversion AoE at high difficulty, and the basic infantry is a tripod tank with shield and short range electric attacks. As you have noticed, a lot of them are shielded, which protects them from one-shots and controls. On the other hand, they have no heavily armored units except the Obelisks when closed.
@@cashriney369 Theres also a ministry of truth notice saying that 'supposed illuminate sightings' are to be considered lies by traitors or something. So the game hints that they might not be eradicated too
I'm wondering how the illuminates will have evolved. The cyborgs achieved their dreams, and became full robots. The bugs spread twice as much, and became much bigger and stronger. Illuminates will just become the protoss
The cyborgs didn't become full robots (at least not all of them), humanity managed to beat them and they were locked away in a planet called Cyberstan. The automatons are theorised to be moving to Cyberstan to free the cyborgs.
From what I’ve heard, the illuminates were exiled and had their tech taken away from them And with the leaks that just came out, it seems to be even more true, all the enemies look far cruder than what we see here, almost looking like the covenants
the cyborgs created the automatons (calling them their children), but didnt become them; and the automatons are in fact likely trying to free their creators that are currently busy doing slave work in the mines of cyberstan. The bugs were genetically modified by super-earth to try and make them even better at being harvested for oil, so their evolution, estecially how fast they breed, seems like its due to super earth's meddling as for the illuminates... we will have to wait and see, but they used to be a fairly peaceful specie (note how their two stongest units are mainly non-lethal, with one meant to restrict movement by creating energy walls and the other to confuse their opponent (mind manipulation, in game they invert your controls temporarily if they hit you), but I bet that we will see them far more militarized now, which is a scary prospect considering their technology level and the extra century since the first game (though a lot of their secrets have been stolen by super-earth)
The bugs aren't actually savage. They have self-awareness. The bots are people enslaved in a metal carapace. The Illuminate got their homeworld trashed and are out for revenge.
My local Democracy officer forwarded me this old war footage which he was granted permission to share by his commander. He told me, in these exact words: “They’re coming here! They’re coming to take Super Earth! We need to prepare now! NOW!” I figured he was merely putting up an act to help train me on effective war tactics, so I’ll learn what I can from this so that once I’m eligible to officially join the Helldivers, I can put my newfound knowledge to good use.
not directly on-topic to the illuminate probably steamrolling us in the future and nor is this a comment roleplaying at all, but MAN i love how 'old' hd1 feels compared to hd2 the stock armor looking less futuristic than hd2's armor, the announcer sounding more old-timey in both audio quality and voice, it really feels like it was actually 100 years apart from hd2. i like the armor differences the most, in this game it appears to be more plate-based but in hd2 it's a full suit. both are dramatically different and i really like it
I feel like an intergalactic soldier reading about my enemies to know their weaknesses, how to finish them off and how they are, will be and will act. Stop them when they come back and take me with them... You can destroy them with ease. I have one thing clear to me, the shotgun are the best.
they have teleportation technology. So in the 2nd game there will be like a teleportation gate/portal when they call reinforcements. Just like bugs, that pop outs from the ground (bug breaches) Robots has their drop ships Illuminates will have their portal/ teleportation gates.
@BigPotPlug blame Xbox for trying to buy all the big studios. Sony at least starts with small studios and builds up their games. Microsoft is out there buying Bethesda and any big time studio.
@guysome7469 They bought them but they are largely independent. Unlike Bethesda which is all miscrosoft exclusive now. People barely even use crossplat, not alot of people playing older games. Sony is still making high quality exclusives tho.
I'm gonna hate fighting these so fucking much in hd2, they were my least favorite to fight in hd1 to where I actively avoided playing missions with them.
For those coming to study for the current war, take this war footage with a grain of salt soldier, it’s been over 100 years….. who knows how they’ve changed…..
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
I suppose in HD2 it'd be cool if the experimental energy weapons are great at taking down their shields and the you can shred them however you want. I'd be getting Halo ODST vibes too
What made Illuminates interesting for me was that anti-tank was not required at all, instead majority of their units had shields which performed well against high damage slow firing weapons. They work like the shield generator backpacks. The obelisks (the armored orb-like enemy) generated walls that other Illuminate could fire and move through but blocked your fire and movement. (using Jump Packs was a common way to counter these) By far the biggest threat though was the Illuminate council members who would fire an orb that inverted your controls and stratagem inputs if it hit you. You could however shoot down the orb. I'm really curious how they'll behave in HD2, and Im looking forward to a faction that manages to remain challenging while not requiring insane amounts of anti-tank like the bugs. Edit: The Illuminate didn't have too many ranged units either as you can see in the video, only the council members and beam snipers fire projectiles. A good chunk of the Illuminate are the tri-pod walkers that electrocute you and the cloaked outcasts that dash toward you. It'll be a nice mix of the swarming melee units of the bugs combined with some of the suppressive fire of the automatons.
None of the races require anti-tank, I have shown this by soloing high level RS for both the Cyborgs and Bugs without any anti-tank. Granted it's a lot harder, but not an absolute must. I get what you mean though, but if we consider difficulties 13-15, I'd say the Illuminates probably "require" most anti-tank only because they can pose the biggest threat. The Bugs are countered by pretty much everything and are too easy anyway, and the Cyborgs are easier to run away from. The Illuminates can make that harder due to teleporting enemies and huge swarms of fast units. In-game people almost always bring anti-tank to Illuminates 13-15, yet that's where most of the mission failures happen. Also the Council Member orb doesn't invert your controls, it deals damage and often just insta-kills you. The CM AoE attack inverts your controls. It's the Illusionist orbs that reverse controls, but they are far less threatening than the CMs. For the ranged attacks, you forgot the Obelisk. Those walls can sometimes form up so that they are really hard to dodge, especially if they come from Obelisks that are out of the screen.
I'm not sure I follow the logic that if the orb is similar in both games, then the other game somehow is harder? Anyway, from what I've seen and talked with veterans of both, everything points to HD2 being clearly easier.
In HD1 planets were procedurally generated, so the names get reused for all different parts of the galaxy. The only planets with permanent names were the faction capitals, Super Earth, and the regional capitals (something that is not present in HD2). Clearly they reused some of the HD1 planet names for HD2.
@@FightsGamesMaryjane It's hard to give any specific advice when I don't know why you struggle against them. They are the easiest race and hard countered by many things. For example the Avenger will shut them down completely. The Static Field will also hamper them hard. The Trident easily takes out scouts, so you won't have to deal with alarms. That being said, it's good to note that you will only get good if you fight.
@mikasahd I don't struggle against them brother I'm literally saying I can not play against anything but the bots. I want to face the bugs but I don't know how to change it there seems to only be one option.
@@niels6090 Thanks for the response. Looking into the LAS I actually found the answer on the wiki stating I gotta get the RL-112 up to MK2 first. Never realized some upgrades are locked until you complete other weapons upgrades first.
No, they're not. The bugs are the easiest at every difficulty. And once you get to difficulties 13-15, the Illuminates can actually be the hardest. The issue is that even at 15 their spawns might be rather easy, but also have the potential to be by far the hardest. It seems to depend on the map.
Is vedeit007 blind or something? Shooting at walls, running into projectiles, and just randomly running around and dying. They even did less kills than the guy who came in half way through.
People please I preach to you out of love belive on the lord Jesus Christ and trust in him for you salvation and not in yourself Christ came to die for our sin we have all sinned and deserve hell but God is so merciful and Jesus died on the cross to take our punishment so that who ever belive on him will not perish but have eternal life john 3:16 romans 10:9 if we confess with our mouth Jesus is lord and belive in our heart that god rose him from the dead we will be saved we can not earn salvation it is the free gift from God❤❤,,,...
here to learn about my enemy before they drop in HD2
Same here, soldier.
We take the Intel back to the others. For glory, God, and righteous managed-democracy
3 things that stand out about them:
1. Blue long range snipers
2. Shields
3. Invisibility/Cloaks
@@darklizard45 And, apparently, mind control.
Could we see a friendly helldiver turn his gun on his teammates?
Combat footage from the first galactic war moment
@@darklizard45 arc throwers, arc ball that fucks up your coconut or 1 shot you, the big ball thing that creates a wall.
My Democracy Officer personally recommended that I review this old war footage. He said that it will surely give us the leg up if we are to battle for freedom once again with this futuristic foe, and I agree with him wholeheartedly. For Liberty! For Democracy! For Super Earth!
For Super Earth!!!
So our ancestor fight this things 100 years ago. This footage will be a good reference to us.
Calling me an ancestor 😢
@@YomamaYodaddyYobjtchassGranny Grandpa you already old, let's get you to the bed and you can tell all the glory days.
engrish?
For HD2 players trying to scout info on the future faction, here is a brief summary of their HD1 characteristics:
The main threats are input inversion effects and wall generation.
Input inversion is exactly what you think it is, and impact both movement, aim and stratagem inputs. All elite units can do that, either via projectiles (those can be destroyed by damaging them) or AoE centered on the emitter. SH-20 bubble shield is a counter to that, as it protects from any control while active.
The spherical units are called Obelisks, and do nothing but generate and maintain a wall of force. They can do only one at a time and expose their vulnerable core when doing so, but the wall one shots everything when generated, Illuminates can pass through them, and Obelisks spawn in hordes in highest difficulties, so you can stay locked within the walls. Usual strategies against them are lobbed trajectory weaponry to shoot above the walls and LIFT Jump Pack to escape them.
Other units are snipers, invisible melee attackers, melee attackers with dodging and slowing projectiles, drone patrollers with shields and inversion AoE at high difficulty, and the basic infantry is a tripod tank with shield and short range electric attacks.
As you have noticed, a lot of them are shielded, which protects them from one-shots and controls.
On the other hand, they have no heavily armored units except the Obelisks when closed.
Thanks great grandpa!
Salute, veteran
Oh shit...
outstanding intel ! good work soldiers !
Any loadouts in mind for when the Illuminate threat returns, sir?
God how would facing the Illuminate look like in HellDivers 2
We’ll soon find out!
Those shields they have seem like a pain in my ass.
There’s an NPC on the ship that says we eradicated them so idk
@@cashriney369 Theres also a ministry of truth notice saying that 'supposed illuminate sightings' are to be considered lies by traitors or something. So the game hints that they might not be eradicated too
@@cashriney369could be wrong bc the illuminates in hd2 would be CRAZY cool theyd make the robots look like bugs
I'm wondering how the illuminates will have evolved.
The cyborgs achieved their dreams, and became full robots.
The bugs spread twice as much, and became much bigger and stronger.
Illuminates will just become the protoss
I don’t think those are the cyborgs. I think the cyborgs are still coming
The cyborgs didn't become full robots (at least not all of them), humanity managed to beat them and they were locked away in a planet called Cyberstan. The automatons are theorised to be moving to Cyberstan to free the cyborgs.
From what I’ve heard, the illuminates were exiled and had their tech taken away from them
And with the leaks that just came out, it seems to be even more true, all the enemies look far cruder than what we see here, almost looking like the covenants
Cyborgs and automatons are 2 separate factions
the cyborgs created the automatons (calling them their children), but didnt become them; and the automatons are in fact likely trying to free their creators that are currently busy doing slave work in the mines of cyberstan.
The bugs were genetically modified by super-earth to try and make them even better at being harvested for oil, so their evolution, estecially how fast they breed, seems like its due to super earth's meddling
as for the illuminates... we will have to wait and see, but they used to be a fairly peaceful specie (note how their two stongest units are mainly non-lethal, with one meant to restrict movement by creating energy walls and the other to confuse their opponent (mind manipulation, in game they invert your controls temporarily if they hit you), but I bet that we will see them far more militarized now, which is a scary prospect considering their technology level and the extra century since the first game (though a lot of their secrets have been stolen by super-earth)
From savage bugs, to robots. Really excited to actually fight against an intelligent alien species
I think the idea of an alien that thinks offensive! Especially fish aliens...
The bugs aren't actually savage. They have self-awareness. The bots are people enslaved in a metal carapace. The Illuminate got their homeworld trashed and are out for revenge.
@@SomeKindaSpythat’s some pretty undemocratic sentiments you have
Study this old war footage well Helldivers. We must be prepared for when one of our old enemies returns
My local Democracy officer forwarded me this old war footage which he was granted permission to share by his commander. He told me, in these exact words:
“They’re coming here! They’re coming to take Super Earth! We need to prepare now! NOW!”
I figured he was merely putting up an act to help train me on effective war tactics, so I’ll learn what I can from this so that once I’m eligible to officially join the Helldivers, I can put my newfound knowledge to good use.
Before all of us were helping the universe, they were doing it for years. It is a pride to see the missions of the precursors of democracy.
not directly on-topic to the illuminate probably steamrolling us in the future and nor is this a comment roleplaying at all, but MAN i love how 'old' hd1 feels compared to hd2
the stock armor looking less futuristic than hd2's armor, the announcer sounding more old-timey in both audio quality and voice, it really feels like it was actually 100 years apart from hd2.
i like the armor differences the most, in this game it appears to be more plate-based but in hd2 it's a full suit. both are dramatically different and i really like it
I feel like an intergalactic soldier reading about my enemies to know their weaknesses, how to finish them off and how they are, will be and will act. Stop them when they come back and take me with them... You can destroy them with ease. I have one thing clear to me, the shotgun are the best.
That is because you are, my friend. Freedom Democracy and Liberty are spead by us, you are one of them.
the Illuminate remind me of protoss with there shield tech also looks like they have dark templars
Just studying our enemies
6:26 I thought this was the end of it..what a turnaround xD
So that’s the illuminates? This is my first time seeing them. Having them appear outta thin air is pretty cool.
they have teleportation technology. So in the 2nd game there will be like a teleportation gate/portal when they call reinforcements.
Just like bugs, that pop outs from the ground (bug breaches)
Robots has their drop ships
Illuminates will have their portal/ teleportation gates.
@@mjokerboy3539I like that the illuminate fill the gap. Automatons from above, bugs from below, illuminate right next to you instantly
That automatic laser gun was my favorite back then . It was fun I hope they add it to helldivers 2
To be one of super earths means we have to study our enemy before they show up
this is all in an enclosed space... imagine the anarchy that will follow in the open areas of helldivers 2..
It's actually the enclosed spaces of retaliatory strike missions that make it so chaotic. Open space missions aren't nearly as chaotic.
@@mikasahd oh, i had only seen these battles and nothing else so i just assumed
I already can feel the eradication missions being just as hellish
@@mikasahdi hate those missions against the illuminates
cant wait to see these guys in HD2
I remember these things vaguely, its good to get somewhat of a refresher before they appear in the 2nd galactic war
how do we win against that in hd2, we gonna be spread to thin on 3 fronts
Let Xbox play. That’s how you will win.
@@BigPotPluglol what
@BigPotPlug blame Xbox for trying to buy all the big studios. Sony at least starts with small studios and builds up their games. Microsoft is out there buying Bethesda and any big time studio.
@@NaregChakhbasian Bro sony bought Bungie lmfaooooo
They also have the worst multiplatform and crossplay policies by far
@guysome7469 They bought them but they are largely independent. Unlike Bethesda which is all miscrosoft exclusive now. People barely even use crossplat, not alot of people playing older games. Sony is still making high quality exclusives tho.
So we've got Dark Templars, Sentrys, Stalkers and Old School archons?
Noice
I'm gonna hate fighting these so fucking much in hd2, they were my least favorite to fight in hd1 to where I actively avoided playing missions with them.
Def looks like a really tough battle, and they will be even tougher prolly in HD2
For those coming to study for the current war, take this war footage with a grain of salt soldier, it’s been over 100 years….. who knows how they’ve changed…..
It's so fucking true and it terrifies me
Didn't we also attack them while they were unprepared? So this time when they come back they'll actually be at full strength- 💀
I really hope the illuminate maps look like this in Helldivers 2
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Can we get the healing gun in HD2? 🥵
mikasa... the best ... 👏👏👏🔥
I suppose in HD2 it'd be cool if the experimental energy weapons are great at taking down their shields and the you can shred them however you want. I'd be getting Halo ODST vibes too
What made Illuminates interesting for me was that anti-tank was not required at all, instead majority of their units had shields which performed well against high damage slow firing weapons. They work like the shield generator backpacks. The obelisks (the armored orb-like enemy) generated walls that other Illuminate could fire and move through but blocked your fire and movement. (using Jump Packs was a common way to counter these) By far the biggest threat though was the Illuminate council members who would fire an orb that inverted your controls and stratagem inputs if it hit you. You could however shoot down the orb.
I'm really curious how they'll behave in HD2, and Im looking forward to a faction that manages to remain challenging while not requiring insane amounts of anti-tank like the bugs.
Edit: The Illuminate didn't have too many ranged units either as you can see in the video, only the council members and beam snipers fire projectiles. A good chunk of the Illuminate are the tri-pod walkers that electrocute you and the cloaked outcasts that dash toward you. It'll be a nice mix of the swarming melee units of the bugs combined with some of the suppressive fire of the automatons.
None of the races require anti-tank, I have shown this by soloing high level RS for both the Cyborgs and Bugs without any anti-tank. Granted it's a lot harder, but not an absolute must.
I get what you mean though, but if we consider difficulties 13-15, I'd say the Illuminates probably "require" most anti-tank only because they can pose the biggest threat. The Bugs are countered by pretty much everything and are too easy anyway, and the Cyborgs are easier to run away from. The Illuminates can make that harder due to teleporting enemies and huge swarms of fast units. In-game people almost always bring anti-tank to Illuminates 13-15, yet that's where most of the mission failures happen.
Also the Council Member orb doesn't invert your controls, it deals damage and often just insta-kills you. The CM AoE attack inverts your controls. It's the Illusionist orbs that reverse controls, but they are far less threatening than the CMs.
For the ranged attacks, you forgot the Obelisk. Those walls can sometimes form up so that they are really hard to dodge, especially if they come from Obelisks that are out of the screen.
Who else reviewing the old footage?
that bomb that one shot him at 1:22 just got leaked recently, and it still one shots, the illuminates JUST might be a harder challenge in HD2
I'm not sure I follow the logic that if the orb is similar in both games, then the other game somehow is harder? Anyway, from what I've seen and talked with veterans of both, everything points to HD2 being clearly easier.
@@mikasahd Also points to it being the better game
@@Heyoo414 No it doesn't. That's subjective and down to personal preference.
wait, LESATH?
they will return.....they always return someday
What are you talking about? They are here all the time, have been for years.
Told by my democracy officer to review past battle footage for the upcoming battles
huh, so Illuminates are futuristic looking aliens
That 2:20 Eagle One gun run was nothing but brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt
Man, the first game- I mean first galactic war has a really different feeling to the current galactic war.
For now.
Coming from hd2 it seems weird for eliminate missions to be manageable
What do you mean? From watching HD2 videos they look easy compared to HD1 RS missions.
reinforce mk3... i remember learning that at least 50h in one of my friends had ignored maxing it D:
They're blood is red, I no longer have to shoot my friends to see red... Now I'm just waiting for them to be put in HD2
Lol, Salt plays way too much borgs it seems XD
So helldivers one veterans how cooked are we?
Very cooked like it's no contest, we can only just keep the automatons away the illuminate are going to take massive amounts of space away
@@emojothejojoyeah atp just try to weaken the automatons as much as possible before those squids come
Wait, this took place on Lesath? Like the Menkent line Lesath?
In HD1 planets were procedurally generated, so the names get reused for all different parts of the galaxy. The only planets with permanent names were the faction capitals, Super Earth, and the regional capitals (something that is not present in HD2). Clearly they reused some of the HD1 planet names for HD2.
1st time seeing helldiver 1 gameplay and i understand why i never heard of or played it lol.
@Pabs-y3z 🔥
Huh, so they DID reuse planet names.
Looks like they reused everything
Yo, did anyone notice the Wall Shield guys had a little black orb that looks a lot like the thing Meridia turned into... oh, oh no
were so cooked ;c
Can anyone please tell me how to fight different factions I feel I can only face the bots how do I fight bugs ?
What exactly are you struggling with with the bugs? Playing on a difficulty too high or certain enemies?
@mikasahd Sorry I just don't know how to face anything other then the bots it seems to be the only option.
@@FightsGamesMaryjane It's hard to give any specific advice when I don't know why you struggle against them. They are the easiest race and hard countered by many things. For example the Avenger will shut them down completely. The Static Field will also hamper them hard. The Trident easily takes out scouts, so you won't have to deal with alarms. That being said, it's good to note that you will only get good if you fight.
@mikasahd I don't struggle against them brother I'm literally saying I can not play against anything but the bots. I want to face the bugs but I don't know how to change it there seems to only be one option.
@@FightsGamesMaryjane Wait until the current war is over and a new one starts, then all the factions will again become available one per day.
hey kinda off topic but do you know why the EAT MK3 is locked for me? I've gotten MK2 and don't see any mission unlocks for it. Is it a glitch?
Get the LAS upgraded first. I believe that's the one which unlocks laser sight (correct me if I'm wrong).
@@niels6090 Thanks for the response. Looking into the LAS I actually found the answer on the wiki stating I gotta get the RL-112 up to MK2 first. Never realized some upgrades are locked until you complete other weapons upgrades first.
@JordTheeNord i only found out about that today after seeing it haha
noice
Oh boy
What does RS stand for?
Retaliatory Strike
theyre the easiest faction to fight in hd1, wonder how theyll turn out in hd 2
No, they're not. The bugs are the easiest at every difficulty. And once you get to difficulties 13-15, the Illuminates can actually be the hardest. The issue is that even at 15 their spawns might be rather easy, but also have the potential to be by far the hardest. It seems to depend on the map.
Reloading
the horror
Is vedeit007 blind or something? Shooting at walls, running into projectiles, and just randomly running around and dying. They even did less kills than the guy who came in half way through.
wow they literally copied and pasted the game and made it 3rd person… so dope
Dont you hate it when game devs change basically nothing. Lazy devs
*Goes to buy the 27th Fifa game*
People please I preach to you out of love belive on the lord Jesus Christ and trust in him for you salvation and not in yourself Christ came to die for our sin we have all sinned and deserve hell but God is so merciful and Jesus died on the cross to take our punishment so that who ever belive on him will not perish but have eternal life john 3:16 romans 10:9 if we confess with our mouth Jesus is lord and belive in our heart that god rose him from the dead we will be saved we can not earn salvation it is the free gift from God❤❤,,,...
Nuh uh, democracy comes first 🦅🦅🦅🦅
I had a stroke trying to read that 💀💀💀
@@electrobot9871 God bless Superearth
@@peterjones6513 Dont read it then XD
@@juanpanconwebo Allachu Ackbar ☪️☪️☪️
Reporting for Illuminate training class. See you all on the Illuminate front when they arrive. 🫡