Out-Fished Badly - So I Did This!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- Have you ever watched in frustration as someone out-fishes you badly? Being severely out-fished is a learning opportunity! How you react can make the difference between a frustrating fishing trip and a great one. This video will contrast jigging styles and shows how it often pays to watch those fishing around you and be willing to make adjustments if you're not the one holding a bending rod.
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SKINNER…..the man….the myth…..the LEGEND
"I don't like to make two changes at once" is my new "Don't leave fish for fish"
Love the banter. Old mates having a great time.
Great adjustment from what you saw from Doc. Sometimes I stay with what I know should work rather than what is working. Another good lesson learned. Thanks.
5:00 "good fishermen copy...... great fishermen steal" -Skinner
Out of the many things you've taught me and your other loyal viewers, one of the most important lessons is to be observant and don't be afraid to make minor adjustments. Skinner, I try to do you justice in my own videos and with anyone that boards my boat to go fishing. Much and continued respect!
Thanks! Getting out-fished is rarely fun, but it's always a learning opportunity.
Hell knows no fury like an out- fished Skinner. Great video!
Yep, he had me frustrated.
Great stuff Skinner! Looked like one heck of a day on the boat. Glad there was no damage to the engine at the end.
It could have been worse for sure. Lots of wood came out of the Sound.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing Yea, we've been noticing the same on our side of the Sound too.
It’s so interesting how a small adjustment like that is completely changing the bite. It’s crazy that the fish weren’t keying into the normal action you put on the bucktail. Great video Skinner!
Agreed. That's the first time I've ever deadened the action intentionally. His 4-0 start though was not just luck, so I knew I had to do something.
Some of the very best fishing content on TH-cam, John. Thanks for that.
Nice fishing and great videos. I fish out of Northport LI and recognize the water colors. I think I could guess where you’re fishing, but I won’t. I’ve been fishing LI Sound, Orient Pt, Peconic Bays, and Montauk for over 55 years now. We are lucky to have such great fluke fishing. Tight lines everyone.
Awesome job skinner and doc nice 🎣
Thank you!
Agreed. Never be stubborn about fishing. Watch and Listen to your buddies that’s out fishing you.
Always a learning opportunity when you're out-fished.
What "Doc" is basically doing is drop-shotting...A killer smallie and largemouth technique.Even without his sinker lifting off the bottom the two baits of the hi-low are dancing around when he creates slack then comes tight..Deadly at times..As you can see here..
John I did the same thing last weekend with my rig. By just dipping the rod tip a little and then lifting it up you can impart enough action to get those gulp grubs moving without ever lifting the sinker off the bottom. This technique is used a lot in freshwater. Think they call it drop shot.
Great point to pay attention to the details around you. That's the great thing about fishing with others, there is always something to learn. Sometimes it's based on the day and others it just something new. "get your helmet" 😂😂 nice work John. It was a good time fishing with you guys.
Yep. Good fishing with you yesterday. We scraped out a pretty nice catch.
Fluke fishing is my favorite I love watching you guys net those big fish Thanks I'm picking my morning
I enjoy watching video replays of some of the net jobs, especially the ones that don't go smoothly. Always something to learn.
This new moon has been great.
We had the best day in 10 years--fishing in the harbor.
Boat caught the limit on fluke, stripers, and bluefish...
3/5ths were mine (including an 8lb doormat) using your techniques.
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing that.
That was incredible fishing!
What was the drift speed?
The chicken rig works really well in medium to high drifts; better than most other rigs, mostly because it presents so well; partially because it doesn't get tangled up much and, if you use dropper loops, it doesn;t spin often either. Jeff Viamari has a good video demonstrating how to tie the chicken rig. FYI, we use it inshore fishing, such as at Block Island, so it's not just for the Nantucket Shoals.
We fished that same area last Saturday ,couldn't believe how many boats were out there !
This was the day before.
Doc putting it down! With these lighter jigging rods, you must adjust your initial lift. Stick em baby! Have a great fall season gentlemen. Love from Lewes, Delaware.
Want to watch this badly... But I'm in NC where the fishery is all fluked up...ill save this video to watch right before our two week season yeah~
doc went gangster the first half but then he poked a sleeping bear...good video as always..seem the high low rig work great many many times yet i refuse to switch over cause at sum point in the day the rapid bucktailing always seems to come thru..
great video john a 4 friend limit! Really enjoyed watching the derby, you really were just toying with Doc... you had em all the way.
He was kicking my ass for the first 30 minutes.
I had a great time! It was a lot of fun!
Im hitting up LBI surf tomorrow morning for some pepper flukes for dinner. Nice catches
Wow doc is on fire in the beginning
Skinner was wise to copy Doc. I found that using a heavier weight & almost dragging... I said almost... was more effective than being snag paranoid . If you miss a hit let the line out a little to touch bottom and keep your bait close to the fish. Today is August 13, 2022. Summer doldrums. Plus I was kinda tired from doing an all nighter with no sleep the night before. That made me a bit slower but aware of that so I tried harder ... Still looking for my double digit fish. It's amazing at how badly fluke want a pc of terribly chewed fluke belly.
Right on skinner
Bro you guys are catching limits and I’m up in Jersey with my dad uncle and brother catching barely 18s, most guys in jersey don’t like you but I think it’s amazing how you catch so much fish
Save some for us Skinner! Crazy they were hitting on the heavy buck tail!
Wow, what a great day, I love the action on your new rod Mr Skinner 👍
Thanks! It took a full season and 4 rejected prototypes to get it right, but it is awesome. I had a 9.5# on a 6-ounce bucktail a few hours ago. The rod handled both beautifully.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing good luck with it ,I hope you catch a monster with it 👍
I love the old boy banter. Quality.
Can I call you daddy, John ?
Always a pleasure to watch pal thanks for again for sharing your knowledge. You’ve done wonders for my all around fishing game.
Great show John! Stay well.
Jon have that same net and it is a steal of a deal for the price
Going to the shore Friday hopefully I get my limit for the first time!
Be nice to Doc. He is getting action! At his age? Take what you can get!
Man you was killing them out there, great day for fishing
There not enough room in this world for more skinners😤
Hey John. Just saw a video with a stationary camera attached to the t top area. Was a nice point of view. Maybe give it a try if you haven't yet?
Blue Fuze was the killer color for me a couple days ago. Off F.I
Nice friends and a nice boat
Docs sticking to the bottom with the chicken rig
Must be nice to be in a place where there are keepers. Uncle and I went out last weekend. We caught at least 50 fluke between the two of us and not one keeper. Unreal
Nice action at least.
RI out in front of watch hill and beaches
John- I think that it's possible that even with Doc's soft action rod that he was still inducing movement of the teasers on his chicken rig even if he wasn't moving the sinker with rod bump action. The teasers are light weight and will more readily respond to "guitar-string plucking action" with the bottom of the rig (sinker) acting like an anchor on the bottom. Just a strong guess on my part. If you could drop a camera down near his rig you might be able to more readily see what his rig is doing while he's working it in his way.
You are 100% correct. The teasers get a little action. I've tried it in a pool with a teaser and heavy weight.
Here in California we have a similar fish called a “Halibut”……..I wonder if the same technique will work? I’ve never fished for them but this style looks fun.
Yes! I've numerous followers tell me these techniques worked well on CA Halibut.
Perhaps doc’s sinker drags bottom and he was just slacking and tighten the lines for his jigging method thus giving movement for his jigs
John Skinner great video. Please tell me the make and model of that awesome boat
Entertaining as always!
Five months of flatty’s! only get two weeks here in NC. Great videos but makes me sad
Nice fishing video. caught nice fish.
Awesome catch of flukes, that place looks to be loaded with them.
Miss those from shore fluke videos
Hey John have you ever gone Halibut fishing?
Thanks for the video
You guys kill me with those nylon nets. Get a rubber net already! You'll never go back. Great trip, still love that boat!
Both nets on this trip are rubber.
My bad. That tangle at the end was vexxing to watch. Maybe just crazy barbs on those hooks.
@@ytpython73 You're right though. Even though it's rubber, the mesh is too small. I noticed lots of tangles today.
One day I would love to fish on your side of the country
@JohnSkinnerFishing was wondering if you could go over in a little more detail how you bleed the fish what exactly are you cutting? Are you just cutting the gills in half or at the base of them, and will that Technique work on other fish such as sea bass stripedbass etc. thanks for the info.
If you slit the gills of any fish they'll bleed out pretty quick. I'm not aiming for any special spot.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing thanks John for the info I really appreciate it
Been missing a good ole rickset
Net duty!
Another Great Video John. What kind of Aluminum Boat does Your Buddy have again?
Metal shark. Fearless32
I love your videos lve learned so much
John, what reel are you using? You once recommended a Quantum BC with a flipping switch. I bought the 100 series model. My landlord where I dock my boat is looking to get a nice ocean flounder/striper reel and I can't remember what the bigger Quantum was that you recommended several videos back. Thanks for any assistance. Happy Thanksgiving!!
These are quantum accurists for fluke. You might have seen a Maxel for stripers.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing you are the best!!! Couldn’t think of the model! Thanks so much John! Disregard the message I sent you on FB. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family!
Soft rod-heads are the best for detecting soft bites
But they are not good for putting motion on a 3- to 6-ounce jig in deep water.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing ofcourse,i forgot to specify what kind of fishing i was talking about,usually we fish for small or medium fish on a light tackle with soft head rods,and not in deep waters ofcourae so we dont use heavy sinkers, generally i was aiming for light fishing and not jigging with heavy jigs or fishing with bait with heavy sinkers ,u r totally right
you guys need to start putting $10 or $20 in a pot per person for biggest fish of the trip
When searching for fluke what structure or depth should i be looking for? Or water temperatures
Do incoming, outgoing tides matter in deeper water? How many ounces was Docs Sinker. How is his engine doing?
Current matters, but we've had success on both tides. If I had to pick a tide it would be incoming. 4-5 ounces for Doc sinker. His motor is fixed. He got lucky finding a lower unit.
does Rick ever anchor that boat? it seems he uses the electric motor rather than anchors, even in the blackfish videos. Does he only blackfish around slower tides then?
No there are times when we anchor. But having the trolling motor has been a game changer.
@@richardkohut4309 Thanks for the reply. I already figured you are a seasoned veteran of the east end. You choose your days on the water wisely.
@@richardkohut4309 Hi Rick, I was wondering if it would be worth it for you to put the the boat in Montauk for 3-4 months as you seem to run there regularly in the summer. If you run 80 miles roundtrip from Greenport a few times a week, with the cost of fuel rising, would it make sense?
It’s so hard to find good size fluke at fire island inlet
Gotta find the out of the way spots. Used to do well drifting in Reynolds behind captree
If you’re using anything heavier than a 3/8 oz jig, expect way more shorts.
Stop fishing the reef and the fleets they are out there over 29 fish yesterday 5 keepers out of FI
@@michaelyunnn the big ones hit the teasers.
Had 3 nice keepers on the reef this week but had to work for them. The pb’s had few nets working
what is your personal best fluke?
That’s what I use. Top bottom with nuclear chicken.
The legend idol
What is the brand of the boat you were on? I like the aluminum boat, never see them in NC
metal shark
Hi how can I find the handle on your reel I need one for my energy S3
I would check with Jigging World. I don't use an Energy, mine is an Accurist.
Where are they fishing at? what time of year? and why does he cut into the fish so it bleeds out in the bucket??? I have never fished for flounder before but would like to. Thanks !!!
@david, whiter meat with less fishy taste.
Last week, Montauk NY
What size do they have to be on the boat
19''
What depth were you fishing
70-90
@@JohnSkinnerFishing that's why you had so many keepers nice nugget/good question
COOL
Mr skinner are you still fishing mainly barbless?
Never on fluke.
It would be nice but untill north carolina fixes our fishing at the coast here its not worth buying a boat for one fish..thats correct
.one flounder per day..one red drum per day..this states so F up ..its sickening
I caught 36 flounder in one hour and ten minutes on gulp this morning I switch to the bucktail sprul and gulp didn’t catch one flounder I really don’t get it
How heavy is your bucktail and in what body of water? Usually if they're not hitting the bucktail it's because it's too heavy. I assume you're getting it to the bottom. What kind of line?
@@JohnSkinnerFishing about 6’ of water the bucktail is a 1/2 oz absolutely no hit I can’t get even a crab to bit it I can feel the bottom but still no bites
@@oliversmith9148 Where in Florida?
@@JohnSkinnerFishing Sabin lake in Texas Sabin pass tx
Apparently alot of mackrel and triggerfish are running through 5 min away from me. Does anyone have any advice for inlet fishing for them?
@Aidan, yeah…catch’em
Squid and clam for the triggers. Shiny stuff for the macks.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing The king has spoken!! Thank you😁
Aren't you soppose to keep your pole up and definitely out of the water! I don't want to correct you, but I kept yelling that to myself. Since I got stressed over that I had to share with you.
so you think he was draggin the rig on the sand like a crab?
Not dragging, but at that depth and with that rod and with that much scope and that jigging action, he was definitely putting less motion on the rig than I was. It's what they wanted that trip. I think he would have done better substituting a bucktail for the sinker.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing nice job slayin'
Yamaha > log
🎣🎣🎣🎣👍
Teach me haha
Man I go out almost every day out of Niantic trying to get fluke like these. Not to the right spots I guess
Maybe you or the they need a few more nets
I love nuclear chicken...
I just want to live your life for a week. I don't get to fish unless pigs are flying in hell.
First
In what ?a beauty pageant.💃
7 or 8 ? LOLOLOOL
Skinner thinks every fish is big and net worthy.
I don't show the shorts that are swung without a net call.