Especially if there were written threats made through a digital platform, including the mention of firearms. I’d assume police would look into this matter more carefully
Totally agree! Enough resources to arrest non violent activists and raid their homes for being on a zoom call but wash their hands of targetted death threats
The growth has happened as its easy to do online. We've had or we had in the 80s jumble sales, regularly at the church hall. I'd go regularly as a kid in the 80s. Its nothing knew, its just easier to do than a jumble sale. The problem with these apps is lots of people can't be bothered to do their own research. Being in IT I see it all the time, users not being interested in the history of apps, not bothering to do their own research. Lets take Temu for example. Heard someone at work raving about buying cheap t-shirts. Ignoring the human rights issues of China, the sweat shops, never questioning why its so cheap and not thinking about shipping all that tat from China. The issue here is much like Fast Fashion. That was clearly a bad idea but influencers and buyers gave no shits so kept buying.
@@PastaSauce. They're still around.. Most of the stuff on Vinted is bought from car boots, jumble sales and charity shops, with at least 500% profit thrown on because internet people want to pay more for things. I know someone who makes a living from it and they say most of the addresses they send to are very posh. It's the new 'I saw you coming' 'retro shop' for lazy people.
@@PastaSauce. Best one went to in the mid 80s was our local church (I'm not religious but my mum is). Would have them regularly there but this time they opened a side room and had computers setup, like the Commodore 64, Spectrum etc. And you paid to have a go.
@@JehanineMelmoth They were a lot cheaper and the designer labels were the same price as the cheap stuff but only "Oxfam shoppers" shopped at a charity shop back then.
Men being disgustingly awful regarding women online? Colour me totally depressed and unshocked! I hope that Vinted are now taking the necessary technical and legal steps to safeguard their users and that they rapidly expand their customer service team!
@@DeeExailProductions I don't know the specifics of how the mentioned site sourced the images, but there are steps that Vinted can take that make it very hard for the average yahoo to just scrape images from their sites / apps and and also make it easier to find them if they do. They should be proactive in looking for said images and then take aggressive legal action when they do and if they leverage copyright law (which I reckon they can with the right Ts&Cs) they will get service providers and other tech companies to take action very quickly. So yeah, they can't stop men being pigs, but they can make it hard to do and costly to keep doing and push them to being much harder to access - which would help and is not beyond the realms of being reasonable for a billion dollar tech firm to manage.
Hey, I know! How about sluts stop posting sexually suggestive photos of themselves online in a constant search for validation from people who couldn’t care less about them!
Re affordability, it’s a mostly (not only) British thing. I live in the U.K. and recognise how tight money has become. I however have 3 grown-up kids in Denmark between 24 and 30yo, and there things are very different. They all live independently, none of them have any debt (universities are free, and you are paid an allowance whilst studying), wages are way higher that here, my youngest is working for a cleaning company which clean at hospitals, and he’s just under £40k a year, and their living costs (they all rent) is about 1/5th of their month take-home income. They use bikes to get to/from work, so no cost on that either, but public transport is ridiculously cheap anyway. Point being, none of them are short of money. My youngest however do use Vinted, but mostly to source very particular things he wants that are no longer in shops. Point being, costs of many things have gone up globally, but thinking that this has caused a living crisis all over, is simply untrue.
I’m in the same age as your kids & I loveddddd Copenhagen so so much when I visited!! would be very intrested in living there for a bit, but it’s much harder now due to Brexit from what I’ve looked at :(
Two major points you forgot to mention : - a lot of the female Vinted users being exposed to sexual harrassment are minors, being targeted specifically, for example by men posing as buyers to get them to send more photos. - the most common complaint about Vinted is the huge amount of scams and the fact Vinted offers absolutely zero support in these situations, often refunding the wrong person Another smaller point but still worth noting, is that Vinted is in violation of EU privacy laws by ignoring RGPD personal data erasure requests.
The seller threatened to come to the buyer's home with a gun znd you claim the police 'couldn't help'. Either the statement is untrue or the police aren't fit for purpose. Which is it?
Used makeup can be sanitised. Makeup artists have been doing this for decades. Or do you think they buy brand new full sized products every time they work on a new client?
False. Many viruses like herpes cannot be destroyed through sanitisation. They are resistant even to alcohol. The same goes with buying used earrings. If the seller had hepatitis you're getting it. Cleaning the jewelry won't help. As a MUA, makeup artists don't tend to use their makeup products on people who have active skin conditions or herpes on their face. In this situation we tell them we have to use their own products and brushes. Though there are a lot of irresponsible MUAs out there, just like those department store brands that make you use lipstick testers that have touched 200 other mouths.
Yeah but makeup artists are careful not to contaminate their makeup. You have no idea what someone else has done with it, or what their hygiene standards are like…
I suppose Vinted could create a program that checks the sellers item name against a database of recalled items, and that would be great, but I don’t think eBay or Facebook marketplace have anything like that in place. At the moment the onus is on the seller, and I don’t believe platforms are legally required to do anything other than forbid it in their terms and services, which they all do. It would be nice if there was some legislation enforcing something like that. Other than that, I don’t see what Vinted is reasonably expected to do about pretty much anything talked about here. These are just all issues of using the internet more generally.
As far as I know it's not possible to list makeup as used on vinted, ppl just list it as unused and write in the description to write a message before buying
These things that have been banned end up in charity shops all the time. Any more regulation on vinted means we don't get all the money for the item that we've sold and it may as well end up just like eBay
I have SO MANY clothes that i bought that were too small for me and i forgot to return. Then i lost the weight and now they're too big for me. They have tags and are unworn, and i paid for every single one of them sadly. Not all people on there are scammers or thieves.
I would want her to qualify that statement of saying you wouldn't be able to buy this on other online retailers. How is Gumtree or eBay not falling under this type of problem? I don't see why Vinted are the only relevant target? Even more concerning after watching this for a while. Why did the police not have a way to help? What was the reason? Why would you ever go to Vinted about an issue of this severity? None of that makes sense at all.
With Gumtree it's mainly pick up or drop off isn't it? I think with Vinted it's grown at an incredible fast pace and I've noticed recently Ebay announced "no selling fees" now so makes me think they were worried more and more people now use Vinted.
7:20 they are not the biggest 2nd hand marketplace, nowhere near it. They've been operating since 2008. 2023 was the first year they made profit. And their revenue was estimated to be about £500m. (596m euro, because they are Lithuanian) Leagues behind eBay
@@andrina118Gail’s is her coffee cup. They don’t take cash in their shops. There are a number of reasons why it’s problematic to refuse to take cash in face to face shops.
This isn’t unique, had it on facebook marketplace, ebay, as a buyer, and as a seller. Fortunately I’m careful about handing out details and fortunately haven’t found my self feeling like I was in genuine danger… …But have had death threats against me and my family from someone who had my address, for simply asking if the parcel had been shipped yet because it was supposed to have already arrived… Maybe people act that way in person too, but they are way over-represented online.
Could Vinted not use a code for each specific item and each specific seller. The seller could take the item to a Vinted supported shop who would print a label with the buyer’s address. That way the seller would not see the buyer’s address. Similarly could the payment not be done on an app which linked the payment to the seller’s code without displaying any of their personal info to the buyer?
such a shame about the website featuring women that was set up because it's so helpful having people model the clothes you're buying. Why do people always ruin things?
Lazy journalism. Dispatches has gone downhill. There’s no boundary here between what is Vinted’s fault and what isn’t, and what (if anything) is unique to Vinted among online reselling platforms. And does anyone else laugh at the cheesy 90s camera techniques? Show the person talking and then show them from a side view… or wobble the camera a bit to stop it being static… oh puh-lease…..:)
One thing that annoys me about Vinted (and Depop) is both of them seemed to have become overrun with business accounts selling clothes they've 'sourced' from charity shops/boot sales and vintage bundles. I'm not spending £50 on a secondhand jumper just because you've tacked 'vintage' or 'y2k' in the description.
Anyone else been shopping at charity shops all their adult lives and this online clothes marketplace trend has completely passed them by? My cat put some holes in my Ralph Lauren t-shirt a few weeks ago, but give it only cost me about £5, the subsequent bad mood did not last very long 😂
As I understand charity shops are struggling under the immense amount of cheap/crap quality shein-esque fast fashion rags that dont last long, so charity shops are struggling to process them all, so usually end up having to put them in the trash anyway sadly 😒
This anti-Vinted docu, at exactly the same time eBay first drops all fees to sell clothes, and then drops all fees generally, in an aggressive move to shut down Vinted, their main business rival. Coincidence...? Threats of violence are a matter for the police, not for an online selling site. Will there now be a similar anti-eBay docu, where there are pretty much all the same problems? I very much doubt it.
Investigate to why Vinted are not paying or delaying payouts for Pro users. Once your balance is frozen you will be asked to complete an ID verifacation they reject every document that you send in this continues for days
How is this different to any other second hand selling site? If someone threatens you like what happened to this bloke, you call the police, not Vinted! As for that rogue website, yes it needs pulling down but also don’t upload photos of yourself online if you don’t want them to be seen. This goes for any online profile. Jeez… are people this daft when it comes to the internet?
The retailer could verify the complaint, ask the perpetrator to stop and pass their details to the police. The police should act on threats of violence. They should raid his premises if he has threatened to use a firearm. The platform and police have responsibilities too.
It's no different. You have to provide your address to any seller you deal with online. And like you say, if someone is threatening you, thats not a job for a second-hand clothing site. They'll block someone but violent threats are a police matter.
I absolutely agree.. this is a police matter, not sure what people think Vinted could do... of you meet someone at a club that starts stalking you, you don't go back to the nightclub and complain to them ...
The public have slowly come to accept police failure since Theresa May started to underfund the service. Subsequent conservative administrations continued that trend. Most people now accept that it is more likely than not that the police will find an excuse not to investigate crimes and so don't even bother to report them. The police then claim that crime is down when it is in fact reporting that is down because of lack of trust in the service. They might make an exception for you if you are a high profile person like Taylor Swift or a Judge or an MP. The police service is no longer fit for purpose and the conservatives are not the party of law and order.
13:00 It's weird that so educated and experienced person do not know that man is able to sexualized almost everything. I suppose that internet in last 10-15 years proved it very well.
This happens on depop too!!! I listed a top and I noticed a man liked it which I found strange and then I went to the profiles likes, and it was full of similar pictures of women selling clothes and the user had no other activity apart of this. I reported this to depop as I found this quite distressing that mine and other women’s pictures were unknowingly being sexualised by a stranger but they said they couldn’t do anything about it.
it's not just vinted this is a big issue eBay as well as business seller we have to put our business address even if it is our home address but other countries don't have to do this
In the case of someone being threatened by a seller, Vinted told him to contact the police, and the police wouldnt help, this is a bad situation obviosly, but i fail to see how vinted are to blame, telling him to speak to the police is the correct thing to do, it's not their fault if the police wont help him. Also, in the case of 3rd parties compiling photos of users, again awful, but what on earth is vinted meant to do to stop this, it's not their fault that people suck.
We had gumtree love, 2nd hand isnt a young person thing.. People been doing it forever, i really hate it how naive people think it didnt happen until they started doing it
I don't think anyone claimed that vinted or young people invented second hand selling. If you're getting so bothered by this might I suggest you step away from the internet for a while to get some perspective.
Maybe I'm cynical, but expecting customer service support from many companies is naive. Fiduciary Responsibility has been twisted to mean spend nothing on your customers, support for brand protection seems an old idea, it's just a cost centre now. Shame, but people are too busy to shop around, so get shafted
They only issue I can see here of any concern if that vinted did not close the messaging system on the account which was shut down, everything else is out of their control, its almost impossible to monitor items which have been recalled as some of them get fixed for instance and then are released again, that's a minefield even ebay and amazon cant traverse, so really its unfair to suggest they are doing something dark behind the scenes when this is normal behaviour. You certainly cant blame vinted for people perving over womens photos. Seems to me very little of concern was found which simply does not justify this title of this video in any way, Vinted should really ask for a takedown here. I do however think their support section needs work but ebays is far worse, every large companies with over 250k customers should be forced to provide a support service by phone or live chat with an actual person as a bar minimum.
I didn't know what self feeding pillows are, I do now. I've never had or experienced a baby before but one look at the pictures I could tell that would be a no-no, Has common sense gone🤔
Heres the thing though. This spot light is the kind of thing that will result in restrictions and regulations that wont harm the company but will make selling and buying harder. When the very very vast majoirty of people have a fine experience. An individual case or a handfull of potentially dangerous are not representive of the majority of the app and sometimes we should just trust people to not buy dumb ass stuff and if they do thst should be on them. That sucks for that guy but that could have happened buying off ebay and you are literally discouraged from sending packages to your home address. This just feels like making an issue out of not alot
All selling platforms no matter what gives address to the sellers obviously if you break gdpr law it's a legal issue if someone is abusing that vinted removed them from the platform they aren't gonna be sending security. Police have to get involved it was kinda pointless saying that story, same thing can happen on eBay FB marketplace, etc.
It’s the same with eBay, I came across an old csi kit for kids on there which got recalled in the 2000s because the fingerprint dust contained the worst type of asbestos, I told eBay and they took the ad down immediately but they kept popping up, I kept searching and reporting it for a while because the fact someone may have bought this for their kid worried me, I called them again and they said they had passed it onto another department, this happens all the time always research what you’re buying, iv also seen these kits in charity shops it needs more awareness ❤
This one was from the 2000s and think it was based around the csi program? Have a Google as they seem to pop up in charity shops quite a bit iv seen 2, I was shocked that this happened so recently but also Google ‘Claire’s accessories makeup asbestos’…shocking
Very creepy for sure, but have you guys seen the internet? All photos on the internet can be subject to the same thing, especially if linked to a physical address, don't people know this already? The idea of asking Vinted to fix that seems pretty weird, did they manage to get the site taken down? Expect 5 more to pop up in its place. There are serious things to worry about, this isn't one of them IMO (to clarify: threats are a police matter, be careful how you share your data on the internet. Pervy sites on the internet are here to stay I imagine, let's focus on the ones that deal with children or abuse etc)
@@d4v1doexactly but on the flip side not buying crappy stuff from Zara primark and other places will save you money long term. I put up with ratty looking cloths to buy higher quality stuff from companies based in the eu with proven supply chains and cloths wash better last longer
I mean Gails is middle class but it's not exactly opulent, its a few quid. She's probably doing alright but she can still comment on the general cost of living crisis that's going on. I'd rather that than someone claiming it's not going on whilst enjoying their own luxuries in their little bubble.
@@domb8448I’ve got books everywhere as well, and they’re not ‘organised’ as such… but they’e either standing up straight or lying flat in piles. Some of those hardbacks are hunched over at an angle that hurts the spine
I dont believe for one second the police said they were unable to help him, this story is dodgy as hell, the police take threats including fire arms extremely seriously, especially when they are actually documented in writing. I'm calling bullsh!t on this.
I am the person this is about. I sent all screenshots to the police who initially asked me to go in to the station to give a statement and then a day later said not to bother because there was nothing they could do about it.
@@russoisdead Perhaps you are him but I still do not believe the police would dismiss evidence of gun threats that you had written evidence of, I can only assume Some part of what has been reported here is incorrect or untrue As I know for a fact the police would have acted on this and would have investigated further without dismissing it as you have suggested.
@@lizprice3948 They always have done, they have been systematically underfunded by decades of Tory governments. This isn't what happened here though we are not getting all the information somebody's telling fibs somewhere
Admittedly i'm only 6 mins in but I'm already annoyed. Let adults make their own decisions, if they want to buy used cosmetics or second hand electricals what is YOUR problem? if Vinted was to do all those checks they would need to charge and one of the reasons ppl buy on it is because it is cheap. So from the competition perspective you're lobbying for the market to be less competitive for customers. All those "protections" and "guarantees" well-meaning people demand come with a price tag and eventually the measures turn against those who want to be able to choose. When the government wanted to limit numbers of repossessions banks had to tighten up their affordability criteria resulting in people being unable to take a mortgage even if their rent is currently higher than a mortgage repayment would be. If you want landlords to stick to particular standards the cost of it must be passed on the renter. What if I'm happy to live in a substandard but cheap accommodation for a period of time which would allow me to save money for a decent deposit? What if i don't mind buying maybe even faulty hairdryer on Vinted because i know i have skills to repair it. Some people find it gross wear second-hand clothes but some don't mind and it is not your place to tell them how they should feel about it. Using Vinted is not mandatory as long as the descriptions are clear and not misleading it's fine. Don't like it - don't use it, there are plenty of places you can do your shopping instead.
So essentially you can have safe or you can have cheaper but no idea whether it's safe? Are you happy with that across the board? Unsafe cars, unsafe electricals, unsafe food... It's not unreasonable to expect people to be able to buy things that are safe and many people don't have the knowledge to make that assessment.
There's a huge number of consumers who need legislative protection because they don't understand the importance of safety controls whether it's due to vulnerability or just plain stupidity. It's just a shame we can't legislate against the latter
@@nicbobags8241 we're talking about buying second-hand goods from a designated website. If someone expects that second hand is always as good as new then god help them. If you want certainty and protection go to a regular shop, nobody expects you to use Vinted for all your shopping. How come i can drink myself silly putting health and life at risk, either mine or others (when i decide to drive or have a fight after having a drink for example) but i should not be allowed to buy a used cream that might give me a rash. People chill!
That's probably some kind of neurological problem you have, you may need to seek help. You do realise that you don't have to watch any video on here if you don't want to, don't you?
Just because "it's on the internet" doesn't mean the creator made it public domain or otherwise relinquished their rights to it, so by law they're still entitled to go after unauthorized uses if they wish to.
@@childesinthev.761 if you post someone on the internet then people are allowed to share and discuss it. (They’re still weirdos and probably virgins tho lol)
@@childesinthev.761 not sure why my reply was deleted. I said something along the lines of them still being creepy but it still being legally okay cos they’re not profiting from it
Vinted customer service is shockingly bad. Once you get past the automated responses, you're dealing with a "Computer says NO" type of employees.
the seller threatens the buyer with violence and the police can't help him?
Is that not something that should be looked into?
Especially if there were written threats made through a digital platform, including the mention of firearms. I’d assume police would look into this matter more carefully
Totally agree! Enough resources to arrest non violent activists and raid their homes for being on a zoom call but wash their hands of targetted death threats
This seems an issue for the police, not a vinted problem
And saying he'd come round with a gun. Ironically, isn't that supposed to be what the pointless online safety bill was supposed to protect against.
the police are useless for the common person. they exist to preserve profits for corporations, not to help people.
The growth has happened as its easy to do online. We've had or we had in the 80s jumble sales, regularly at the church hall. I'd go regularly as a kid in the 80s. Its nothing knew, its just easier to do than a jumble sale.
The problem with these apps is lots of people can't be bothered to do their own research. Being in IT I see it all the time, users not being interested in the history of apps, not bothering to do their own research.
Lets take Temu for example. Heard someone at work raving about buying cheap t-shirts. Ignoring the human rights issues of China, the sweat shops, never questioning why its so cheap and not thinking about shipping all that tat from China.
The issue here is much like Fast Fashion. That was clearly a bad idea but influencers and buyers gave no shits so kept buying.
Used to love Village hall jumbo sales in the 90’s. You might get less but it’s so much easier. Bring them back.
@@PastaSauce. They're still around.. Most of the stuff on Vinted is bought from car boots, jumble sales and charity shops, with at least 500% profit thrown on because internet people want to pay more for things. I know someone who makes a living from it and they say most of the addresses they send to are very posh. It's the new 'I saw you coming' 'retro shop' for lazy people.
@@PastaSauce. Best one went to in the mid 80s was our local church (I'm not religious but my mum is). Would have them regularly there but this time they opened a side room and had computers setup, like the Commodore 64, Spectrum etc. And you paid to have a go.
I used to go to jumble sales in the 1970s! Charity shops weren’t as good back then though.
@@JehanineMelmoth They were a lot cheaper and the designer labels were the same price as the cheap stuff but only "Oxfam shoppers" shopped at a charity shop back then.
Men being disgustingly awful regarding women online? Colour me totally depressed and unshocked!
I hope that Vinted are now taking the necessary technical and legal steps to safeguard their users and that they rapidly expand their customer service team!
Telegram is a great source of evil. Guys will exchange phone numbers of Tinder dates, photos, videos of unsollicited porn, etc.
@@DavidManser to be fair we do it offline too. never made a lewd joke in your life or admired a womans chest?
I don't think that part is an issue that any company can fix. Wherever there are photos of women there are creeps who will collate and share them
@@DeeExailProductions
I don't know the specifics of how the mentioned site sourced the images, but there are steps that Vinted can take that make it very hard for the average yahoo to just scrape images from their sites / apps and and also make it easier to find them if they do.
They should be proactive in looking for said images and then take aggressive legal action when they do and if they leverage copyright law (which I reckon they can with the right Ts&Cs) they will get service providers and other tech companies to take action very quickly.
So yeah, they can't stop men being pigs, but they can make it hard to do and costly to keep doing and push them to being much harder to access - which would help and is not beyond the realms of being reasonable for a billion dollar tech firm to manage.
Hey, I know! How about sluts stop posting sexually suggestive photos of themselves online in a constant search for validation from people who couldn’t care less about them!
Re affordability, it’s a mostly (not only) British thing. I live in the U.K. and recognise how tight money has become. I however have 3 grown-up kids in Denmark between 24 and 30yo, and there things are very different. They all live independently, none of them have any debt (universities are free, and you are paid an allowance whilst studying), wages are way higher that here, my youngest is working for a cleaning company which clean at hospitals, and he’s just under £40k a year, and their living costs (they all rent) is about 1/5th of their month take-home income. They use bikes to get to/from work, so no cost on that either, but public transport is ridiculously cheap anyway. Point being, none of them are short of money.
My youngest however do use Vinted, but mostly to source very particular things he wants that are no longer in shops.
Point being, costs of many things have gone up globally, but thinking that this has caused a living crisis all over, is simply untrue.
Its because Denmark has hardly any illegal migrants draining the system..
bloody hell, you've sold denmark to me there! i f'ing hate the state of this country.
@@tobyFOTS if you believe our main issue here is 'illegal immigrants' then you have been fooled.
@@tobyFOTS this is the only issue in the world and everything stems from this 😂 /s
I’m in the same age as your kids & I loveddddd Copenhagen so so much when I visited!! would be very intrested in living there for a bit, but it’s much harder now due to Brexit from what I’ve looked at :(
Two major points you forgot to mention :
- a lot of the female Vinted users being exposed to sexual harrassment are minors, being targeted specifically, for example by men posing as buyers to get them to send more photos.
- the most common complaint about Vinted is the huge amount of scams and the fact Vinted offers absolutely zero support in these situations, often refunding the wrong person
Another smaller point but still worth noting, is that Vinted is in violation of EU privacy laws by ignoring RGPD personal data erasure requests.
Minors aren’t meant to be selling it’s against terms
Top tip is aftershave immediately after Christmas 😂 can pick them up sealed for a 3rd of the retail price
I'LL CHECK IT OUT LOOL, THANKS
Fake aftershave is incredibly common on second hand platforms. Not worth the risk for something you're going to spray on your body
Or you know, you could just get a decent job and buy it when you actually want it…
The seller threatened to come to the buyer's home with a gun znd you claim the police 'couldn't help'. Either the statement is untrue or the police aren't fit for purpose. Which is it?
Used makeup can be sanitised. Makeup artists have been doing this for decades. Or do you think they buy brand new full sized products every time they work on a new client?
If you did Botox would you reuse needles too? Disgusting.
False. Many viruses like herpes cannot be destroyed through sanitisation. They are resistant even to alcohol. The same goes with buying used earrings. If the seller had hepatitis you're getting it. Cleaning the jewelry won't help.
As a MUA, makeup artists don't tend to use their makeup products on people who have active skin conditions or herpes on their face. In this situation we tell them we have to use their own products and brushes. Though there are a lot of irresponsible MUAs out there, just like those department store brands that make you use lipstick testers that have touched 200 other mouths.
Exactly. So do shops who leave out make up samples for customers to try.
Yeah but makeup artists are careful not to contaminate their makeup. You have no idea what someone else has done with it, or what their hygiene standards are like…
@@babymonalisayeah like the body shop samples which I saw some cream on display that had what look like a pube in
I suppose Vinted could create a program that checks the sellers item name against a database of recalled items, and that would be great, but I don’t think eBay or Facebook marketplace have anything like that in place. At the moment the onus is on the seller, and I don’t believe platforms are legally required to do anything other than forbid it in their terms and services, which they all do. It would be nice if there was some legislation enforcing something like that.
Other than that, I don’t see what Vinted is reasonably expected to do about pretty much anything talked about here. These are just all issues of using the internet more generally.
As far as I know it's not possible to list makeup as used on vinted, ppl just list it as unused and write in the description to write a message before buying
Ugh, its horrific. I'd recommend everyone to use a 'drop off' point for everything, but even then...your billing address shows anyway. How shitty.
You should never give your home address to Vinted. They do not care about your safety at all. Also they will keep your personal data forever.
My partner made a good point, you do also have to use common sense as its like one massive Car Boot sale.
These things that have been banned end up in charity shops all the time. Any more regulation on vinted means we don't get all the money for the item that we've sold and it may as well end up just like eBay
With the number of items on Vinted that are unworn with tags, is it just a way for shoplifters to sell items.
Vinted is used in many unethical ways. But honestly, if people choose to sell stolen items on there, it's their own risk and not Vinted's.
I don't really care about shoplifters. It's not like the shops are on my side.
I have SO MANY clothes that i bought that were too small for me and i forgot to return. Then i lost the weight and now they're too big for me. They have tags and are unworn, and i paid for every single one of them sadly. Not all people on there are scammers or thieves.
I would want her to qualify that statement of saying you wouldn't be able to buy this on other online retailers. How is Gumtree or eBay not falling under this type of problem? I don't see why Vinted are the only relevant target?
Even more concerning after watching this for a while. Why did the police not have a way to help? What was the reason? Why would you ever go to Vinted about an issue of this severity? None of that makes sense at all.
It’s in her interest to make it all about one platform I guess.
@@LCOF will lead to sub optimal response. If it's an issue with the sector only solution is government led regulation.
With Gumtree it's mainly pick up or drop off isn't it? I think with Vinted it's grown at an incredible fast pace and I've noticed recently Ebay announced "no selling fees" now so makes me think they were worried more and more people now use Vinted.
Her documentaries are always like this. Very lazy journalism.
7:20 they are not the biggest 2nd hand marketplace, nowhere near it.
They've been operating since 2008. 2023 was the first year they made profit. And their revenue was estimated to be about £500m. (596m euro, because they are Lithuanian)
Leagues behind eBay
Good point.
Ebay have now removed all seller fees, apps like vinted are definitely becoming a threat as ebay is notorious for squeezing its users.
I would appreciate not promoting GAILS's - they don't accept cash.
Well I’m sure they’ll stop and do everything they can just to make you happy
And it's also a zionist body that supports the genocide in Palestine
How do you mean? You can't pay cash online can you?
@@andrina118Gail’s is her coffee cup. They don’t take cash in their shops. There are a number of reasons why it’s problematic to refuse to take cash in face to face shops.
This isn’t unique, had it on facebook marketplace, ebay, as a buyer, and as a seller.
Fortunately I’m careful about handing out details and fortunately haven’t found my self feeling like I was in genuine danger…
…But have had death threats against me and my family from someone who had my address, for simply asking if the parcel had been shipped yet because it was supposed to have already arrived…
Maybe people act that way in person too, but they are way over-represented online.
Did GAIL’s sponsor this segment
Could Vinted not use a code for each specific item and each specific seller. The seller could take the item to a Vinted supported shop who would print a label with the buyer’s address. That way the seller would not see the buyer’s address. Similarly could the payment not be done on an app which linked the payment to the seller’s code without displaying any of their personal info to the buyer?
such a shame about the website featuring women that was set up because it's so helpful having people model the clothes you're buying. Why do people always ruin things?
Men.
Men. Not "people".
Lazy journalism. Dispatches has gone downhill. There’s no boundary here between what is Vinted’s fault and what isn’t, and what (if anything) is unique to Vinted among online reselling platforms.
And does anyone else laugh at the cheesy 90s camera techniques? Show the person talking and then show them from a side view… or wobble the camera a bit to stop it being static… oh puh-lease…..:)
I mean its cheap to do? Having crane cameras is expensive also they probably dont want to make it like joe rogan too as it has different tone
"Vinted’s Dirty Laundry airs on Friday" nice pun
One thing that annoys me about Vinted (and Depop) is both of them seemed to have become overrun with business accounts selling clothes they've 'sourced' from charity shops/boot sales and vintage bundles. I'm not spending £50 on a secondhand jumper just because you've tacked 'vintage' or 'y2k' in the description.
Anyone else been shopping at charity shops all their adult lives and this online clothes marketplace trend has completely passed them by? My cat put some holes in my Ralph Lauren t-shirt a few weeks ago, but give it only cost me about £5, the subsequent bad mood did not last very long 😂
I do wonder if charity shops are struggling more now people are potentially selling clothes online instead of donating them?
As I understand charity shops are struggling under the immense amount of cheap/crap quality shein-esque fast fashion rags that dont last long, so charity shops are struggling to process them all, so usually end up having to put them in the trash anyway sadly 😒
This anti-Vinted docu, at exactly the same time eBay first drops all fees to sell clothes, and then drops all fees generally, in an aggressive move to shut down Vinted, their main business rival. Coincidence...? Threats of violence are a matter for the police, not for an online selling site. Will there now be a similar anti-eBay docu, where there are pretty much all the same problems? I very much doubt it.
also facebook marketplace is a hive of scum and villainy... so I've heard
Investigate to why Vinted are not paying or delaying payouts for Pro users. Once your balance is frozen you will be asked to complete an ID verifacation they reject every document that you send in this continues for days
How is this different to any other second hand selling site? If someone threatens you like what happened to this bloke, you call the police, not Vinted! As for that rogue website, yes it needs pulling down but also don’t upload photos of yourself online if you don’t want them to be seen. This goes for any online profile. Jeez… are people this daft when it comes to the internet?
The general public doesn't deserve the internet.
The retailer could verify the complaint, ask the perpetrator to stop and pass their details to the police. The police should act on threats of violence. They should raid his premises if he has threatened to use a firearm. The platform and police have responsibilities too.
It's no different. You have to provide your address to any seller you deal with online. And like you say, if someone is threatening you, thats not a job for a second-hand clothing site. They'll block someone but violent threats are a police matter.
I absolutely agree.. this is a police matter, not sure what people think Vinted could do... of you meet someone at a club that starts stalking you, you don't go back to the nightclub and complain to them ...
The public have slowly come to accept police failure since Theresa May started to underfund the service. Subsequent conservative administrations continued that trend. Most people now accept that it is more likely than not that the police will find an excuse not to investigate crimes and so don't even bother to report them. The police then claim that crime is down when it is in fact reporting that is down because of lack of trust in the service. They might make an exception for you if you are a high profile person like Taylor Swift or a Judge or an MP. The police service is no longer fit for purpose and the conservatives are not the party of law and order.
13:00 It's weird that so educated and experienced person do not know that man is able to sexualized almost everything. I suppose that internet in last 10-15 years proved it very well.
If you don't enjoy watching things twice, the video actually starts at 0:20
This happens on depop too!!! I listed a top and I noticed a man liked it which I found strange and then I went to the profiles likes, and it was full of similar pictures of women selling clothes and the user had no other activity apart of this. I reported this to depop as I found this quite distressing that mine and other women’s pictures were unknowingly being sexualised by a stranger but they said they couldn’t do anything about it.
That's insane....some mad creeps online.....
They don’t care.
Freaky incels will always find a way
If you're going to put photos of yourself online, men are going to jerk...
it's not just vinted this is a big issue eBay as well as business seller we have to put our business address even if it is our home address but other countries don't have to do this
how can the police not help him, it is literally their job
In the case of someone being threatened by a seller, Vinted told him to contact the police, and the police wouldnt help, this is a bad situation obviosly, but i fail to see how vinted are to blame, telling him to speak to the police is the correct thing to do, it's not their fault if the police wont help him. Also, in the case of 3rd parties compiling photos of users, again awful, but what on earth is vinted meant to do to stop this, it's not their fault that people suck.
We had gumtree love, 2nd hand isnt a young person thing.. People been doing it forever, i really hate it how naive people think it didnt happen until they started doing it
I don't think anyone claimed that vinted or young people invented second hand selling. If you're getting so bothered by this might I suggest you step away from the internet for a while to get some perspective.
Gumtree? Friday Ad. Loot. Exchange and mart. Newsagents windows.
I still use Gumtree, to find Ebay stock 😁
We had charity shops and car boots, love. Nothing is new
Maybe I'm cynical, but expecting customer service support from many companies is naive. Fiduciary Responsibility has been twisted to mean spend nothing on your customers, support for brand protection seems an old idea, it's just a cost centre now. Shame, but people are too busy to shop around, so get shafted
Even if you do have enough free time to shop around, you’ll most likely get the same shoddy service wherever you look. No wonder people don’t bother.
They only issue I can see here of any concern if that vinted did not close the messaging system on the account which was shut down, everything else is out of their control, its almost impossible to monitor items which have been recalled as some of them get fixed for instance and then are released again, that's a minefield even ebay and amazon cant traverse, so really its unfair to suggest they are doing something dark behind the scenes when this is normal behaviour. You certainly cant blame vinted for people perving over womens photos. Seems to me very little of concern was found which simply does not justify this title of this video in any way, Vinted should really ask for a takedown here. I do however think their support section needs work but ebays is far worse, every large companies with over 250k customers should be forced to provide a support service by phone or live chat with an actual person as a bar minimum.
Is her voice sped up? Maybe it's my phone. Makes me feel a little crazy.
Is Gail’s sponsoring this?
It's called product placement and has been around since the dawn of television
Why isn't vinted sueing that creepy website for breech of trademarks. It's awful something like that exists.
Ava didn't seem her normal self in this video
Pointless comment
I didn't know what self feeding pillows are, I do now. I've never had or experienced a baby before but one look at the pictures I could tell that would be a no-no, Has common sense gone🤔
Heres the thing though. This spot light is the kind of thing that will result in restrictions and regulations that wont harm the company but will make selling and buying harder. When the very very vast majoirty of people have a fine experience. An individual case or a handfull of potentially dangerous are not representive of the majority of the app and sometimes we should just trust people to not buy dumb ass stuff and if they do thst should be on them. That sucks for that guy but that could have happened buying off ebay and you are literally discouraged from sending packages to your home address. This just feels like making an issue out of not alot
Darth Vader in the hizzouse
All selling platforms no matter what gives address to the sellers obviously if you break gdpr law it's a legal issue if someone is abusing that vinted removed them from the platform they aren't gonna be sending security.
Police have to get involved it was kinda pointless saying that story, same thing can happen on eBay FB marketplace, etc.
It’s the same with eBay, I came across an old csi kit for kids on there which got recalled in the 2000s because the fingerprint dust contained the worst type of asbestos, I told eBay and they took the ad down immediately but they kept popping up, I kept searching and reporting it for a while because the fact someone may have bought this for their kid worried me, I called them again and they said they had passed it onto another department, this happens all the time always research what you’re buying, iv also seen these kits in charity shops it needs more awareness ❤
That’s scary!
sounds like the kids science kits from the 50s which had very dangerous chemicals essentially explosives
This one was from the 2000s and think it was based around the csi program? Have a Google as they seem to pop up in charity shops quite a bit iv seen 2, I was shocked that this happened so recently but also Google ‘Claire’s accessories makeup asbestos’…shocking
Seth Macfarlane Harvard speech 2006: whoever invented spay cheese had to be a Harvard guy ahshshs
I ordered ear stretchers on ebay from china & they didnt bother dispatching them. Another form of fraud i guess. Now to try get my money back -.-
Very creepy for sure, but have you guys seen the internet? All photos on the internet can be subject to the same thing, especially if linked to a physical address, don't people know this already?
The idea of asking Vinted to fix that seems pretty weird, did they manage to get the site taken down? Expect 5 more to pop up in its place. There are serious things to worry about, this isn't one of them IMO
(to clarify: threats are a police matter, be careful how you share your data on the internet. Pervy sites on the internet are here to stay I imagine, let's focus on the ones that deal with children or abuse etc)
I'll have to give it a watch
I love that we must ruin everything
Buyer beware
Great interview Ed! You nailed it
Yeah, this feels very biased.
This is why we can’t have nice things 😮
ughhghhghg this happened to me a couple of weeks ago. seller on vinted being a weird creep. reported it to vinted and they did nothing
What did the creep do?
Great interview. Shared to the village square called Twitterville
She looks and sounds like a normal sized Ava
What is Vinted?
It’s a market place to sell cloths and stuff. It’s pretty much unregulated like all market places that are pier to pier
@@chrisspencer6502 you can only sell from vinted from sea front to sea front
Blackpool to Brighton
Eastbourne to Southport
It basically an online car boot sale, but evidently people hove forgotten "Buyer Beware".
It’s a fizzy drink and tastes purple
It's a French alcoholic bear.
Apart from being able to list use make-up, not sure that any of these things are primarily the fault of the company tbh
you can't list used makeup though. for a journalist, she should really fact check before spreading false information
My experiences of Vinted are positive ones.
Mine too, even when sending things back.
Joe advertises for Gail's now? It's on BDS list.. love your work still..
Sighhhh it’s so hard to keep up. You’d basically have to avoid any company owned by PE, Funds or Conglomerates
@@d4v1doexactly but on the flip side not buying crappy stuff from Zara primark and other places will save you money long term.
I put up with ratty looking cloths to buy higher quality stuff from companies based in the eu with proven supply chains and cloths wash better last longer
I thought it was funny that she talks about make cutbacks and the cost of loving crisis yet is sat there with a Gail's mug in front of her 😂
I mean Gails is middle class but it's not exactly opulent, its a few quid. She's probably doing alright but she can still comment on the general cost of living crisis that's going on. I'd rather that than someone claiming it's not going on whilst enjoying their own luxuries in their little bubble.
Why are you advertising Gail's when the co-founder, Tom Molnar, has repeatedly posted Islamophobic tweets?
Will someone please sort those bookshelves out ???
They are in terrible need of a systematic tidy. One red book is flat !!!!!!
A good sign of an active reader and not just books for show. I've got books everywhere. I would trigger your OCD no end.. 🤓
@@domb8448I’ve got books everywhere as well, and they’re not ‘organised’ as such… but they’e either standing up straight or lying flat in piles. Some of those hardbacks are hunched over at an angle that hurts the spine
I dont believe for one second the police said they were unable to help him, this story is dodgy as hell, the police take threats including fire arms extremely seriously, especially when they are actually documented in writing. I'm calling bullsh!t on this.
I am the person this is about. I sent all screenshots to the police who initially asked me to go in to the station to give a statement and then a day later said not to bother because there was nothing they could do about it.
@@russoisdead Perhaps you are him but I still do not believe the police would dismiss evidence of gun threats that you had written evidence of, I can only assume Some part of what has been reported here is incorrect or untrue As I know for a fact the police would have acted on this and would have investigated further without dismissing it as you have suggested.
@@McKluskie I have screenshots of the police’s response. They don’t care.
The police pick and choose which crimes they deal with these days
@@lizprice3948 They always have done, they have been systematically underfunded by decades of Tory governments. This isn't what happened here though we are not getting all the information somebody's telling fibs somewhere
Admittedly i'm only 6 mins in but I'm already annoyed. Let adults make their own decisions, if they want to buy used cosmetics or second hand electricals what is YOUR problem? if Vinted was to do all those checks they would need to charge and one of the reasons ppl buy on it is because it is cheap. So from the competition perspective you're lobbying for the market to be less competitive for customers. All those "protections" and "guarantees" well-meaning people demand come with a price tag and eventually the measures turn against those who want to be able to choose. When the government wanted to limit numbers of repossessions banks had to tighten up their affordability criteria resulting in people being unable to take a mortgage even if their rent is currently higher than a mortgage repayment would be. If you want landlords to stick to particular standards the cost of it must be passed on the renter. What if I'm happy to live in a substandard but cheap accommodation for a period of time which would allow me to save money for a decent deposit? What if i don't mind buying maybe even faulty hairdryer on Vinted because i know i have skills to repair it. Some people find it gross wear second-hand clothes but some don't mind and it is not your place to tell them how they should feel about it. Using Vinted is not mandatory as long as the descriptions are clear and not misleading it's fine. Don't like it - don't use it, there are plenty of places you can do your shopping instead.
Prevention is better than cure
@@DW-indeedand it is your inalienable right to use your own due diligence when shopping in the private secondary market.
So essentially you can have safe or you can have cheaper but no idea whether it's safe? Are you happy with that across the board? Unsafe cars, unsafe electricals, unsafe food... It's not unreasonable to expect people to be able to buy things that are safe and many people don't have the knowledge to make that assessment.
There's a huge number of consumers who need legislative protection because they don't understand the importance of safety controls whether it's due to vulnerability or just plain stupidity. It's just a shame we can't legislate against the latter
@@nicbobags8241 we're talking about buying second-hand goods from a designated website. If someone expects that second hand is always as good as new then god help them. If you want certainty and protection go to a regular shop, nobody expects you to use Vinted for all your shopping. How come i can drink myself silly putting health and life at risk, either mine or others (when i decide to drive or have a fight after having a drink for example) but i should not be allowed to buy a used cream that might give me a rash. People chill!
Men…😫
It’s a dodgy second hand selling place. Never get involved with any of that sort of dirty business. 😊
Hmmn, is there a market for condoms on vinted?
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I struggled to keep on watching with Starmer's face in the background.
Daymn the right really turned into the snowflakes they used to hate
That's probably some kind of neurological problem you have, you may need to seek help. You do realise that you don't have to watch any video on here if you don't want to, don't you?
You need only listen…
Oh you poor thing... how will you ever cope with so many book covers in the world? Better steer clear of bookshops eh?
Sounding like a snowflake to me
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So someone threatened a family with a gun and we are mad at vinted, not the police? 😂
what the fuck is vinted 🤣
I dont see what’s inherently wrong with cross posting images posted on the PUBLIC INTERNET
Just because "it's on the internet" doesn't mean the creator made it public domain or otherwise relinquished their rights to it, so by law they're still entitled to go after unauthorized uses if they wish to.
@@childesinthev.761 if you post someone on the internet then people are allowed to share and discuss it. (They’re still weirdos and probably virgins tho lol)
@@childesinthev.761 not sure why my reply was deleted.
I said something along the lines of them still being creepy but it still being legally okay cos they’re not profiting from it
I love the way you laughed at people who bought second hand make up. Poverty is so hilarious isn't it.