Hi Pete. Just my thoughts on this. You’re on a good trajectory, I think the worst thing you could do right now is put a pay wall on your content and move to completely different platform. I doubt many would follow you, and things will just fizzle out. I think you should go the crowd funding route, and turn it into content. I’m sure everyone would love to see a vlog of you making your way to Villa and your experiences before, during and after the match. Many would be happy to donate, myself included. But locking the content itself… I don’t think that’ll work. No chance I’m paying for yet another subscription service, and I imagine most viewers will feel the same. Whatever you choose, I hope it works out. But I think this is a really bad idea.
Great show as always Pete! Think you might struggle to retain an audience by going a full patreon only model. It's much more difficult to do but I think a mixed model seems to work for a lot of other outlets. It keeps people engaged, keeps the door open for new people but lets people know that there's a route to more and better content by contributing. Something to consider.
Totally agree with this comment, almost all youtubers have Patreon for extra/exclusive content and not everything and then some only have 20 odd Patreon subscribers - do love the channel though but couldn't afford behind a paywall as per many comments but will enjoy until that happens and up the Mighty Villa!
The others thing is that not knowing the new content or not having a sample of it on a free basis cant entice you to go ful support on patreons. I guess its hard to manage both...
Great show as always Pete - but I think your timing is off for Patreon. With a loyal subscriber base of less than 10k and the current financial crisis biting all of us around the globe - this doesn't seem like the ideal time to jump ship. I understand your wishes to provide more content and finally get to Villa Park as part of your bucket list pilgrimage but let me tell you there are plenty of people currently living in Birmingham who can't afford to go to Villa Park and are struggling to make ends meet. My advice to you is to continue as you are and steadily build your sub base to a point where it makes sense financially to switch platform. Don't do a Villa and increase costs at a time when every penny counts for most of us UTMV
Iam so sorry to hear that your going patreon way, you are one of the best channels on u-tube and for the reasons that I don't want to get into I will miss you like cutting off my right arm, so hears to your new venture Pete wishing you all the very best for the future and you won't be disappointed when you eventually get to VILLA PARK take care Peaky Blinder.😭
I would love to follow you to patreon but I've already ditched a couple of tv subscriptions because of the "cost of living" and so can't justify £5 per month at the moment. I'll enjoy everything you do until you move but I will then have to kiss you goodbye. UTV
The whole patreon thing is a baffling decision. Why not just do a patreon exclusive once a month and start it now 🤷🏻♂️ people who can support will and people who can’t won’t but will still support and grow the channel here. There’s also monetisation on YT through the join button. Hey ho, not my decision
This is a such good show. I really appreciated the work that goes into it. I've never actually heard of Patreon and it's not a platform I'll ever download, so I'll really miss this show. Would be happy to make the odd donation if it stays on youtube.
The problem is, and I say this as someone who has a Patreon, that a lot of people say this but then don't make donations (not saying you'd be one of those people!)
@@Bobby_sprinkles - I honesty would, but you're right it wouldn't be guaranteed and probably wouldn't be often. I hope it works out for Pete, either way.
@@bafter2 Yeah, Pete definitely deserves it. The other route he could go down is either advertising, or doing short videos on here that are clipped from the Patreon. That way, people on here don't lose all content, but patrons get full access.
@@Bobby_sprinkles I'm glad that you've made this suggestion as it was the immediate thought that I had after Pete's announcement. I know it works for some other channels I follow. Heck, he could always place a 'Donate' button/option onto the TH-cam channel for those who wish to do so occasionally. Win-Win
I used to work at a social media marketing agency, we had a few projects trying to monetise huge audiences so I can thought I can weigh-in on this. Conversion rate of TH-cam to Patreon conversion sits at about 0.5% of regular viewers typically - we used the the number 0.4% for conservative auditory purposes. You seem to get around 6,000 views per video so regular viewers could be around 4,000 and 0.5% of that would be 20 - but let's be positive and say 50. 50*$5 gives you an income $250 a month, shave off roughly 9% commission and you're left with $227.50 a month. Split with your partner that's just over $100 each. But hey, $100 is a $100 right? Not bad. But the main risk with that all-in Patreon model is a stunting of growth trajectory. So you've got to ask yourself can you monetise your channel in such a way with/without Patreon that doesn't stunt growth *or* can you supply a product that will increase the 0.5% audience conversion rate to such an extent that it is worth the stunt in audience growth? Here's my suggestion: Keep the show how it is, to continue your growth and create a unique product that is better suited to k'ching cash cash cash... 🥁 Ready? Here's your product... 🥁 Aston Villa match watch-a-longs. You're in the unique position to be in a country that allows you to watch every single Aston Villa match legally, therefore you can legally do a watch-a-long. No UK TH-camrs could do this for every match - therefore it is gold. You could live-stream via public TH-cam for the first-half/20 minutes (for Patreon promotion) and then continue via a private link available via Patreon. Or you could do the entire show via a private link and then upload the highlights of your watchalong as content on the TH-cam channel. Again, no Aston Villa channels are doing this. Also - if you choose the former option the opens up the opportunity to 'Superchats' for the first half... another revenue stream. Hope you read this, I hope you value my input. Whatever you choose to do - I hope it brings you the results you want!
I rate the THTS as one the most detailed and absorbing all-things-villa channels on YT. I'm trying to cut down on subscriptions so I'm 50/50 given the current financial climate right now,so not certain about Patreon, but keep up the great work and hopefully this new appointment will give you loads of positive and exciting content. I think you should consider keeping YT appetizers < 10 minute high-level overviews of matches/reviews, leaving people wanting more, then have the techy in-depth stuff for Patreon subscribers. Always UTV!!!
Aswell as most people in the UK, the cost of living crisis makes it difficult. As soon as im in a better position I will join the patreon, as the content you create is so good and you deserve to see Villa park. I went for the first time since promotion this year, and despite the loss I had goosebumps tbe entire time. I hope you manage to get over there soon. UTV
Pete, we love your content buddy, I’d even kick the mrs out of the bed of you needed a place to crash should you make it over here 😂, completely coming off TH-cam to patreon is a disaster in the making, if you did live streams you’d get plenty of donations, trust me! UTV🦁 (I did it on twitch briefly with nowhere near the viewership you have)
Love this channel but I'm out because I'm finding it hard with the cost of living crisis right now. but i will say good luck and wish you all the best i have really enjoyed your content up till now.
Pete. Love the show. It's the best Villa content out there. Can I recommend crowd funding instead of patreon? I'd be happy to throw in a bit (and so would many on here) if it meant staying on TH-cam. Or maybe adjust TH-cam tiered membership...? Either way I wish you all the best. UTMV!
Will really miss you. If I’m ever in a position to add this to virgin, Amazon, Netflix, villa tv etc, you’ll be first. Really hope you make it to Villa Park, all the best.
Some feedback from a neutral: I watch your videos, just because what you say is good. Not even a Villa fan. But I do sometimes think you’ve taken too long for a post-match video, probably because of how much you value high-quality production. I’ve actually recommended your channel to some other football fans, Chelsea fans in fact. Because you’re good to listen to. However, I’d never pay for Patreon, simply because I can’t be arsed to use a other platform. I waste enough time on TH-cam. That’s all I have to say. I’m not your target market. But feedback nonetheless
@@jackwilcox5811 I like to watch him talk about what he’s most passionate about. I don’t need another person to talk about Arsenal, whether they’re good or bad. I’m a fan of ToffeeTV, and they do talk about other teams, but it’s not what pulls me to their channel.
Shame your leaving this platform pete ,must admit it’s one of the best out there I find it very informative and insightful hope it works out going full on patreon if it’s you to villa park then I’m happy to contribute 👍🏾
I feel really bad for those loyal followers who won’t be able to find the money to keep watching your excellent content, but times are tough for many. I’m happy to “buy you both a pint a month”, especially if you’re taking it to the next level, (on the assumption I can figure out how to access Patreon)…😳
One of the Best shows on YT and yes me and many More lose this great content i would say over 60 % to 70 % will not be able to do this its normally around 10 % that support Hardcore in that case 10 % of 9 k is probably more than youtube pays and they take half or more of the money so I get It but Thats me out through Force not Choice good luck to the Guys though i hope they keep some content here or I feel like i was sold like from Virgin Media or SKY lol UTV
I'm SO gutted that it's shifting over the patreon. Given the impact of the cost of living crisis and doom & gloom around the world, this show was a bit of a release from all of that. To cough up £50 per year for it though, simply not a priority with other financial considerations. I'm so gutted, I hope you reach the critical mass you need and get to VP sometime soon, its been great whilst it's lasted 🙌🙌🙌
Absolutely love this show, and appreciate what you're wanting to do, but unfortunately due to the cost of living struggles here I won't be joining you on patreon. I wish you all the best, thanks for the content over the years.
Could we all do a crowd fund for Pete to get him to villa park 8.8k subscribers £1 each done even half of that would do Pete if you set up a crowd fund think many would do it. It’s even less than a pint 🍺 👍
I Havn't bought myself a pint in Years so If im counting Pennys and can't do it for myself i can't justify it for Content i think this is a bad move tbh but im just a poorper rn lol UTV
Great idea. Separate to the channel I think that's something I'd happily put £10-20 towards. One of the most passionate villains and deserves some help making the trip.
I discovered you on youtube, I presume many others did too. Patron exclusive is a gated toll community where you're relying on people being on you socials and somehow seeing you on their feeds. Been watching since the start, but I think this move will kill the content and will to continue
Pete Gerrard was offered private transport but he chose to go on coach, heard Christian did offer it P.s. I'll get u a couple pints a month no problems I've been waiting for your podcast since the great news U.T.M.V 💜💙 me and the missus run a pub in brum so u r welcome for a few pints even put u up a night or two
Love your analysis and look forward to your content, but unfortunately will not be following to patreon , financial priorities rule me out, good look though UTV
Pete, great show as ever. Having been down Saturday against Man U we have stumbled on the right man for Aston Villa. Hard to express the transformation in a few days UTMV.
A a fellow creator I understand the time, effort and skill required to produce content like this. It’s obvious you have worked or are working in the field. However, I feel moving exclusively to Patreon is a silly move, ill-advised and ill-timed. But what do I know? People have suggested super-chats on a live stream - good idea and allows for more interaction with your audience. You could easily set up a simple PayPal donate button on a webpage. I’m sure you have already considered these alternatives and more, but have somehow come to the conclusion that Patreon is the way to go. I don’t understand it but best of luck. See-ya.
Great vid as always. I have seen some big channels in other genres fail when they have gone the Patreon route. Personally I would mix it up, youtube memberships and patreon. Im happy to pay the £50 or £60 a year but for me its the ease of youtube that makes the content so easily accessible and attractive.
I'm in. It might be worth doing a 'light' version of content on youtube as a teaser though so new recruits can continue to find you. Really hope it works and the content can become even better
I understand the need to monetise but about half the price of Netflix or amazon prime for a few hours of content a month just doesn't seems reasonable to me.
Mate I agree, and it's literally the same price as one of the new Netflix prices and a couple of quid less than prime. If this was £2.50 a month I would be more inclined to follow Pete over there. He should do content-tiers of 2.50 and 5 quid. Not many in the UK can stump up £50 quid from the get go with rising heating and eating bills !
@@lastonewon I don't want to be too critical because I really think Pete brings Villa content different to any of the shows out there and I really enjoy his presenting style. I agree £2.50 a month would be more justifiable, and it's not just the content, it's supporting a fellow Villa fan who's provided a lot over the last year but I think even then there's so much free Villa content out there it's hard to justify paying for it (especially as I already subscribe to MOMS @25 quid a year). I would def chip in a tenner towards getting Pete over for a game though, it breaks my heart he's never been to VP.
I just want some stability now, a manager lasting 3+ years would be great considering the average EPL manager right now is under 3 years. Looking forward to seeing what he does. As for patreon I won’t be coming across as I can’t afford it, but will support you until you go across.
I think you should stay on TH-cam, but also push a bit for donations through patreon. Also setup something to fund a trip to villa park first, I’d donate!!
Nothing I can do about having to paywall for your ( or literally anyone else's) brilliant show and tbf that's a shame. Maybe you could still keep the show but also push a bit for donations through Patreon and followers will still willing to help. If that is not possible then thank you for your dedication and wish you all the best !
Pete love the channel. Going to miss it. Sadly money is tight so won’t be able to add any extra monthly bills. Wish you all the best and sadly going to have to look for a new Villa fix each week.
I will be sorry to miss your entertaining and informative shows. As a pensioner in Australia the only subscription I can afford is with you tube (cuts out those adverts and gives access to their music channel). I suggest that you check out the funding model being used by Phill Moorehouse of A Different Bias who operates both on Patreon and you tube. Why cut off a funding stream if you do not need too. Good luck mate. Agood show and a pity to loose your voice.
I hope Patreon works out for you. It won't be easy. People are stubborn and don't like change but I hope you can make it work. Emery is a good manager and I think we're pushing above our weight to get him. That said, if any club can ruin a persons reputation, it's Villa.
What an absolute brilliant acquisition Uni Emery is, a real coup by the Club. Really looking forward to the Uni Emery era already ... UTMV🦁👍 You have my support👍
Love the show but sorry I won't be following to patreon. I watch TH-cam on my TV and I don't know how to get patreon on it, especially for £5 a month. Hope it works out for you, UTV.
I think there's a strategy, but one that got veered off course with the Gerrard hire. This feels like NSWE taking back the rudder and hitting the reset button somewhat, taking things back in line with where they feel the club should be heading. In any case, it's an extremely exciting appointment and precisely what Villa need right now. I see Emery as a guy who's fully capable of getting this current squad where it should be on paper, because it's absolutely a squad capable of gatecrashing the European places when coached right. Whether he continues to be the right guy for us when we're there remains to be seen but I see no reason why he wouldn't be currently. Hope it works out for him - in the short term, it's hard to have any complaints at all. Here's hoping for Danks to round out the 100% record this weekend!
Like many others I am living paycheck to paycheck but every month I do spend money on things like, fast food, energy drinks, beer and other things that I don't have to or need to. If sacrificing £5 worth of that gives me more Holy trinity content then I am more then willing to do so, there is no question. Edit: but I do want to add that I think going off this platform all together may not be a good idea. I dont know how exactly how patreon works in terms of getting in new subscribers so keeping this as well might help in that aspect. #UTV
Hi Pete, Love the show and one of your earliest subscribers. However, despite the fact that your content is the best Villa content going, I have to agree with most of the comments here and suggest that going to Patreon only is a bad plan. You need the ubiquity of TH-cam to boost viewer numbers and reach a larger audience. As someone else mentioned, why not have Patreon only content while still producing 1 quality free show per week. That way I can choose to watch extra content one week and the next (when the leccie bill comes !!!) I can choose not to. Just a thought. I hope to continue to be able to enjoy your insightful comments on TH-cam, but if you decide to go the Patreon route I'll have to say goodbye. Wish you all the best anyway pal !
You should do both, you’ll need to keep doing these videos to drive traffic to patreon. I understand you make great content but that’s how much NBC charges here in states for peacock.
Don’t really understand how not having enough time to get content up here will change by moving to Patreon? There aren’t more hours in the day on that platform! That being said, enjoy your content and hope you can make it to Villa Park someday. UTV
Think he is saying that a steady Patreon infusion of cash would allow him to work fewer hours in his current job. Can't produce free content so the hours spent creating "THTS" must be compensated. My takeaway anyway.
@@heeby123 yes, complete. I don't know the guy or his profession. Time constraints from another job can be offset by other income streams. Not sure what else the reason is.
I will definitely subscribe and you’ll take enough with you to Patreon. My only concern is if you drop TH-cam altogether it’ll be hard to attract new followers but I’m sure you and your producer have taken all that into consideration.
I've been watching your channel for some months now and enjoyed the content. Sad to see you moving on behind a paywall and can only hope you have done your research. All the best.
Great vid as usual! Bold move to go Patreon exclusive and understand your need to monetise, but would assume you’d continue to grow your fan base through TH-cam, alongside Patreon. I subscribe to a couple of other Patreon creators but they aren’t exclusive to Patreon, they just use it as a platform to deliver additional content for the paying subscribers. Continually converting free subscribers to paying subscribers has to the way forward otherwise it’ll be difficult to grow a fan base…Hope it works out for you, either way 👍🏻
I was really looking forward to this shoe as always but especially after the appointment of Emery however I am now saddened by the news that I will have to pay if I want to continue watching this great show from next year. Surely there could have been some other options than this? I will be sad when the new year comes but I just cannot afford to pay £50 a year for a you tube Chanel even as bloody good this is. Good luck Pete UTV
I'd suggest make your weekly show available on audio podcast (inc adds) as well as you tube and then have additional conent for Patreon. This is the same model MOMS use (but without the you tube). Good luck.
Hi Pete, adore your channel. However, to turn a lovely 'fan channel' into a money making scheme just doesn't sit right with me. If people want to donate that's great, but to block the thousands who can't afford it is more about 'commercialism' than creating a Villa fan channel. I will really miss this channel as I look forward to it every week, but I'm sure you have your reasons and the very best of luck with your new career! Above all... Up, The Mighty Villa!!!
Seconded; going Patreon only will probably lead to diminishing returns in terms of membership. Uploading clips might be a good idea to allow new people to find you, then directing people to Patreon for the full episode.
Love the show and very happy to pay £5 a month for your outstanding content on patreon. I watch all your videos which is probably 2 hours of entertainment and analysis per month. Plus with a steady reliable source of income I've no doubt your show will only improve. Completely understand the different views on this that you will receive, but wanted to voice my support. Keep up the great work and UTMV
If you can do a slightly reduced cost for annual membership I’m in. It’s a lot of money for some fans but if you can get something around £40 I would continue listening to you. Any more would have to consider costs… cheers for the last few years though, love your angle always. UTV
Definitely gonna carry on supporting th channel would love to see you at B6 doin live shows 😀 EXCITING TIMES PETE LOVING ❤️ LIFE RIGHT NOW TH STORM AS GONE GOOD TIMES HERE WE COME #UTV #VTID
Have to agree with others.. TH-cam needs to be the feeder site that advertises for the Patreon The successful podcasts and shows keep TH-cam content then add in-depth specials for a fee
Please re-consider Pete. I pay €60 or £50 for a whole year of Sky Sports in Austria, which shows every PL and UCL game live, so not sure if your Patron idea is good value for money. Furthermore I like to see all my fave channels in one convenient place. Keep it TH-cam dude. UTMV.
Was told Villa offered to get Gerrard a taxi back to Brum after he'd been sacked but he declined and caught the bus back with the rest of the squad. Also interesting quotes that Unai Emery told Villareal last Friday he was taking the job at B6. So it seems NSWE had made their minds up before SG got the sack.
great show. As someone who works in this field, I would recommend reaching at least 20k subscribers before switching solely to Patreon. If I didn't work in this field, I might recommend the same. Or maybe not comment.
Think you'd do better to monetise your presence on TH-cam than to completely gate off the content. I'm sure Neil and Paddy can tell you that there's quite a bit which comes through by way of tips on their livestream and you can add Patreon on top of that, whilst keeping most your content available for all.
Totally understand the reasons why Pete. It must take a hell of a lot of time and effort. I think the principle will frustrate some people but what you and the other content producers do for free is phenomenonal... the problem is if every villa content provider did the same the average viewer would be looking at £20-30 pm for the content. Good luck with it and I'm on the fence...though I imagine I'll support you and sign up
I do love your content and how you present it. And although I appreciate the reasons and point of view for changing platforms, I too share similar concerns about moving right now. I also agreeing looking into live events as you mentioned, ppl will use the superchats, donations so worth a shot. There are lots of live stream models out there for examples, a particular fav of mine is The United Stand with Mark Goldbridge who does indepth MU games and analysis. But he also does all games in the prem, euro games and international. Its another revenue stream to consider. :)
I hate to be mister wet knickers over here but my tenure as an Aston Villa fan has been a veritable smorgasbord of underachievement, failure and disappointment. With the exception of very few highlights. Would it be best for us to adopt a more cautious approach until we see how things develop on the pitch. I think it's fair to say that we've been here before and have been disappointed. Dont get me wrong, I want Unia Emery to succeed as much as anyone but I feel that a cautious approach may be the best option.
Hi Pete.
Just my thoughts on this.
You’re on a good trajectory, I think the worst thing you could do right now is put a pay wall on your content and move to completely different platform.
I doubt many would follow you, and things will just fizzle out.
I think you should go the crowd funding route, and turn it into content. I’m sure everyone would love to see a vlog of you making your way to Villa and your experiences before, during and after the match. Many would be happy to donate, myself included.
But locking the content itself… I don’t think that’ll work. No chance I’m paying for yet another subscription service, and I imagine most viewers will feel the same.
Whatever you choose, I hope it works out. But I think this is a really bad idea.
Great show as always Pete! Think you might struggle to retain an audience by going a full patreon only model. It's much more difficult to do but I think a mixed model seems to work for a lot of other outlets. It keeps people engaged, keeps the door open for new people but lets people know that there's a route to more and better content by contributing. Something to consider.
Totally agree with this comment, almost all youtubers have Patreon for extra/exclusive content and not everything and then some only have 20 odd Patreon subscribers - do love the channel though but couldn't afford behind a paywall as per many comments but will enjoy until that happens and up the Mighty Villa!
Definitely agree.. many popular TH-camrs have Patreon and a live streaming service.. they use TH-cam to feed the patreon
The others thing is that not knowing the new content or not having a sample of it on a free basis cant entice you to go ful support on patreons. I guess its hard to manage both...
Defo mix your platforms man. Don’t put all your eggs into one basket!
Also suggest a lower tier of maybe £1.99 a month as some folks are cutting Disney+ and other top tier streaming platforms
Great show as always Pete - but I think your timing is off for Patreon. With a loyal subscriber base of less than 10k and the current financial crisis biting all of us around the globe - this doesn't seem like the ideal time to jump ship. I understand your wishes to provide more content and finally get to Villa Park as part of your bucket list pilgrimage but let me tell you there are plenty of people currently living in Birmingham who can't afford to go to Villa Park and are struggling to make ends meet. My advice to you is to continue as you are and steadily build your sub base to a point where it makes sense financially to switch platform. Don't do a Villa and increase costs at a time when every penny counts for most of us UTMV
Going to miss this show pete. Always love tuning in
Same. But there’s so much decent free content out there.
Iam so sorry to hear that your going patreon way, you are one of the best channels on u-tube and for the reasons that I don't want to get into I will miss you like cutting off my right arm, so hears to your new venture Pete wishing you all the very best for the future and you won't be disappointed when you eventually get to VILLA PARK take care Peaky Blinder.😭
I would love to follow you to patreon but I've already ditched a couple of tv subscriptions because of the "cost of living" and so can't justify £5 per month at the moment. I'll enjoy everything you do until you move but I will then have to kiss you goodbye. UTV
Same here Andrew.
And here
The whole patreon thing is a baffling decision. Why not just do a patreon exclusive once a month and start it now 🤷🏻♂️ people who can support will and people who can’t won’t but will still support and grow the channel here. There’s also monetisation on YT through the join button. Hey ho, not my decision
Same here
Sadly same here
This is a such good show. I really appreciated the work that goes into it. I've never actually heard of Patreon and it's not a platform I'll ever download, so I'll really miss this show. Would be happy to make the odd donation if it stays on youtube.
The problem is, and I say this as someone who has a Patreon, that a lot of people say this but then don't make donations (not saying you'd be one of those people!)
@@Bobby_sprinkles - I honesty would, but you're right it wouldn't be guaranteed and probably wouldn't be often. I hope it works out for Pete, either way.
@@bafter2 Yeah, Pete definitely deserves it. The other route he could go down is either advertising, or doing short videos on here that are clipped from the Patreon. That way, people on here don't lose all content, but patrons get full access.
@@Bobby_sprinkles I'm glad that you've made this suggestion as it was the immediate thought that I had after Pete's announcement. I know it works for some other channels I follow. Heck, he could always place a 'Donate' button/option onto the TH-cam channel for those who wish to do so occasionally. Win-Win
I used to work at a social media marketing agency, we had a few projects trying to monetise huge audiences so I can thought I can weigh-in on this. Conversion rate of TH-cam to Patreon conversion sits at about 0.5% of regular viewers typically - we used the the number 0.4% for conservative auditory purposes. You seem to get around 6,000 views per video so regular viewers could be around 4,000 and 0.5% of that would be 20 - but let's be positive and say 50. 50*$5 gives you an income $250 a month, shave off roughly 9% commission and you're left with $227.50 a month. Split with your partner that's just over $100 each.
But hey, $100 is a $100 right? Not bad. But the main risk with that all-in Patreon model is a stunting of growth trajectory. So you've got to ask yourself can you monetise your channel in such a way with/without Patreon that doesn't stunt growth *or* can you supply a product that will increase the 0.5% audience conversion rate to such an extent that it is worth the stunt in audience growth?
Here's my suggestion:
Keep the show how it is, to continue your growth and create a unique product that is better suited to k'ching cash cash cash... 🥁 Ready? Here's your product... 🥁 Aston Villa match watch-a-longs. You're in the unique position to be in a country that allows you to watch every single Aston Villa match legally, therefore you can legally do a watch-a-long. No UK TH-camrs could do this for every match - therefore it is gold. You could live-stream via public TH-cam for the first-half/20 minutes (for Patreon promotion) and then continue via a private link available via Patreon. Or you could do the entire show via a private link and then upload the highlights of your watchalong as content on the TH-cam channel. Again, no Aston Villa channels are doing this. Also - if you choose the former option the opens up the opportunity to 'Superchats' for the first half... another revenue stream.
Hope you read this, I hope you value my input. Whatever you choose to do - I hope it brings you the results you want!
Great idea
Genuinely wish you all the best mate, and thank you for what has been a quality watch. For me, personally I won’t be following you to Patreon.
I rate the THTS as one the most detailed and absorbing all-things-villa channels on YT. I'm trying to cut down on subscriptions so I'm 50/50 given the current financial climate right now,so not certain about Patreon, but keep up the great work and hopefully this new appointment will give you loads of positive and exciting content. I think you should consider keeping YT appetizers < 10 minute high-level overviews of matches/reviews, leaving people wanting more, then have the techy in-depth stuff for Patreon subscribers. Always UTV!!!
Aswell as most people in the UK, the cost of living crisis makes it difficult. As soon as im in a better position I will join the patreon, as the content you create is so good and you deserve to see Villa park. I went for the first time since promotion this year, and despite the loss I had goosebumps tbe entire time. I hope you manage to get over there soon. UTV
Pete, we love your content buddy, I’d even kick the mrs out of the bed of you needed a place to crash should you make it over here 😂, completely coming off TH-cam to patreon is a disaster in the making, if you did live streams you’d get plenty of donations, trust me! UTV🦁 (I did it on twitch briefly with nowhere near the viewership you have)
I agree can’t you live steam and ask for superchats?
Yeah, is that what Mark Goldbridge does with United? I think he does United watch along streams on TH-cam and I think he also gets donations
Love this channel but I'm out because I'm finding it hard with the cost of living crisis right now. but i will say good luck and wish you all the best i have really enjoyed your content up till now.
Pete. Love the show. It's the best Villa content out there. Can I recommend crowd funding instead of patreon? I'd be happy to throw in a bit (and so would many on here) if it meant staying on TH-cam. Or maybe adjust TH-cam tiered membership...?
Either way I wish you all the best. UTMV!
Well, it was fun ♡
Hi Pete long time watcher please stay on TH-cam I love watching the videos that you put out!
Will really miss you. If I’m ever in a position to add this to virgin, Amazon, Netflix, villa tv etc, you’ll be first. Really hope you make it to Villa Park, all the best.
Some feedback from a neutral:
I watch your videos, just because what you say is good. Not even a Villa fan. But I do sometimes think you’ve taken too long for a post-match video, probably because of how much you value high-quality production.
I’ve actually recommended your channel to some other football fans, Chelsea fans in fact. Because you’re good to listen to.
However, I’d never pay for Patreon, simply because I can’t be arsed to use a other platform. I waste enough time on TH-cam.
That’s all I have to say. I’m not your target market. But feedback nonetheless
Do you think Pete should do stuff on other teams too? The guys brilliant quite a few other team fans watch this
@@jackwilcox5811 I like to watch him talk about what he’s most passionate about. I don’t need another person to talk about Arsenal, whether they’re good or bad. I’m a fan of ToffeeTV, and they do talk about other teams, but it’s not what pulls me to their channel.
ive been to villa park one time. i flew from norway and its one of the best days of my life. you need to see the beautiful villa park :D utv
Shame your leaving this platform pete ,must admit it’s one of the best out there I find it very informative and insightful hope it works out going full on patreon if it’s you to villa park then I’m happy to contribute 👍🏾
I feel really bad for those loyal followers who won’t be able to find the money to keep watching your excellent content, but times are tough for many. I’m happy to “buy you both a pint a month”, especially if you’re taking it to the next level, (on the assumption I can figure out how to access Patreon)…😳
One of the Best shows on YT and yes me and many More lose this great content i would say over 60 % to 70 % will not be able to do this its normally around 10 % that support Hardcore in that case 10 % of 9 k is probably more than youtube pays and they take half or more of the money so I get It but Thats me out through Force not Choice good luck to the Guys though i hope they keep some content here or I feel like i was sold like from Virgin Media or SKY lol UTV
I'm SO gutted that it's shifting over the patreon. Given the impact of the cost of living crisis and doom & gloom around the world, this show was a bit of a release from all of that. To cough up £50 per year for it though, simply not a priority with other financial considerations. I'm so gutted, I hope you reach the critical mass you need and get to VP sometime soon, its been great whilst it's lasted 🙌🙌🙌
Amen ! to that UTV
Absolutely love this show, and appreciate what you're wanting to do, but unfortunately due to the cost of living struggles here I won't be joining you on patreon. I wish you all the best, thanks for the content over the years.
Came for a celebration of a huge step forward. Cold shower received 😂
LOL
Could we all do a crowd fund for Pete to get him to villa park 8.8k subscribers £1 each done even half of that would do Pete if you set up a crowd fund think many would do it. It’s even less than a pint 🍺 👍
I’m sure Pete earns more money than most of his subscribers.
I Havn't bought myself a pint in Years so If im counting Pennys and can't do it for myself i can't justify it for Content i think this is a bad move tbh but im just a poorper rn lol UTV
Great idea. Separate to the channel I think that's something I'd happily put £10-20 towards. One of the most passionate villains and deserves some help making the trip.
The joy when a new video hits my feed🎉😊
i'm 50/50 on the 50 a year. it's a bit of a stretch. i enjoy your excellent content but times are tough. good luck anyway🙂
I discovered you on youtube, I presume many others did too. Patron exclusive is a gated toll community where you're relying on people being on you socials and somehow seeing you on their feeds. Been watching since the start, but I think this move will kill the content and will to continue
Pete Gerrard was offered private transport but he chose to go on coach, heard Christian did offer it
P.s. I'll get u a couple pints a month no problems
I've been waiting for your podcast since the great news
U.T.M.V 💜💙
me and the missus run a pub in brum so u r welcome for a few pints even put u up a night or two
Love your analysis and look forward to your content, but unfortunately will not be following to patreon , financial priorities rule me out, good look though UTV
not a patreon person. i'll miss your content, but good luck with the move.
Pete, great show as ever. Having been down Saturday against Man U we have stumbled on the right man for Aston Villa. Hard to express the transformation in a few days UTMV.
A a fellow creator I understand the time, effort and skill required to produce content like this. It’s obvious you have worked or are working in the field. However, I feel moving exclusively to Patreon is a silly move, ill-advised and ill-timed. But what do I know?
People have suggested super-chats on a live stream - good idea and allows for more interaction with your audience. You could easily set up a simple PayPal donate button on a webpage.
I’m sure you have already considered these alternatives and more, but have somehow come to the conclusion that Patreon is the way to go. I don’t understand it but best of luck. See-ya.
Great vid as always. I have seen some big channels in other genres fail when they have gone the Patreon route. Personally I would mix it up, youtube memberships and patreon. Im happy to pay the £50 or £60 a year but for me its the ease of youtube that makes the content so easily accessible and attractive.
Usually they mix it up
I'm in. It might be worth doing a 'light' version of content on youtube as a teaser though so new recruits can continue to find you. Really hope it works and the content can become even better
I understand the need to monetise but about half the price of Netflix or amazon prime for a few hours of content a month just doesn't seems reasonable to me.
Mate I agree, and it's literally the same price as one of the new Netflix prices and a couple of quid less than prime. If this was £2.50 a month I would be more inclined to follow Pete over there. He should do content-tiers of 2.50 and 5 quid. Not many in the UK can stump up £50 quid from the get go with rising heating and eating bills !
@@lastonewon I don't want to be too critical because I really think Pete brings Villa content different to any of the shows out there and I really enjoy his presenting style.
I agree £2.50 a month would be more justifiable, and it's not just the content, it's supporting a fellow Villa fan who's provided a lot over the last year but I think even then there's so much free Villa content out there it's hard to justify paying for it (especially as I already subscribe to MOMS @25 quid a year). I would def chip in a tenner towards getting Pete over for a game though, it breaks my heart he's never been to VP.
I just want some stability now, a manager lasting 3+ years would be great considering the average EPL manager right now is under 3 years. Looking forward to seeing what he does.
As for patreon I won’t be coming across as I can’t afford it, but will support you until you go across.
I think you should stay on TH-cam, but also push a bit for donations through patreon. Also setup something to fund a trip to villa park first, I’d donate!!
Going on patreon often means in addition to TH-cam. (I guess not in this case).
Yep agree, use patreon as an addition to the channel and do live streams by where you will receive dono’s Pete!
Yep I'm with you keep YT channel 🙌 with Patreon as an addition. You can make some videos private with links via Patreon 👍
Apologies, looks like I'm wrong. It's a bizarre decision. Baffling, must be getting business advice off Gerrard!
@@Breadcups Thats Not what He Said He said EXCLUSIVLY PATREON You WILL lose the content behind a pay wall
Nothing I can do about having to paywall for your ( or literally anyone else's) brilliant show and tbf that's a shame. Maybe you could still keep the show but also push a bit for donations through Patreon and followers will still willing to help. If that is not possible then thank you for your dedication and wish you all the best !
Pete love the channel. Going to miss it. Sadly money is tight so won’t be able to add any extra monthly bills. Wish you all the best and sadly going to have to look for a new Villa fix each week.
My favourite Villa show. Genuinely look forward to each episode. Not sure whether I'll be subscribing due to finances.
I will be sorry to miss your entertaining and informative shows. As a pensioner in Australia the only subscription I can afford is with you tube (cuts out those adverts and gives access to their music channel). I suggest that you check out the funding model being used by Phill Moorehouse of A Different Bias who operates both on Patreon and you tube. Why cut off a funding stream if you do not need too. Good luck mate. Agood show and a pity to loose your voice.
I hope Patreon works out for you. It won't be easy. People are stubborn and don't like change but I hope you can make it work.
Emery is a good manager and I think we're pushing above our weight to get him. That said, if any club can ruin a persons reputation, it's Villa.
What an absolute brilliant acquisition Uni Emery is, a real coup by the Club.
Really looking forward to the Uni Emery era already ... UTMV🦁👍
You have my support👍
Love the show but sorry I won't be following to patreon. I watch TH-cam on my TV and I don't know how to get patreon on it, especially for £5 a month. Hope it works out for you, UTV.
I think there's a strategy, but one that got veered off course with the Gerrard hire. This feels like NSWE taking back the rudder and hitting the reset button somewhat, taking things back in line with where they feel the club should be heading.
In any case, it's an extremely exciting appointment and precisely what Villa need right now. I see Emery as a guy who's fully capable of getting this current squad where it should be on paper, because it's absolutely a squad capable of gatecrashing the European places when coached right. Whether he continues to be the right guy for us when we're there remains to be seen but I see no reason why he wouldn't be currently. Hope it works out for him - in the short term, it's hard to have any complaints at all.
Here's hoping for Danks to round out the 100% record this weekend!
Happy to pay for content Pete and assist you in coming to Villa Park. Crowd funding idea from others seems good.
Brilliant content. Keep going!
Exclusively behind a pay wall is a bad move. You should consider a partial move and keep a youtube show to build your audience further.
Like many others I am living paycheck to paycheck but every month I do spend money on things like, fast food, energy drinks, beer and other things that I don't have to or need to. If sacrificing £5 worth of that gives me more Holy trinity content then I am more then willing to do so, there is no question.
Edit: but I do want to add that I think going off this platform all together may not be a good idea. I dont know how exactly how patreon works in terms of getting in new subscribers so keeping this as well might help in that aspect.
#UTV
shows Entertaining Pete but you said it yourself your seldom right on your predictions.
Morning Pete , I too have not been to VP , would be great to meet you there !
Hi Pete, Love the show and one of your earliest subscribers. However, despite the fact that your content is the best Villa content going, I have to agree with most of the comments here and suggest that going to Patreon only is a bad plan. You need the ubiquity of TH-cam to boost viewer numbers and reach a larger audience. As someone else mentioned, why not have Patreon only content while still producing 1 quality free show per week. That way I can choose to watch extra content one week and the next (when the leccie bill comes !!!) I can choose not to. Just a thought. I hope to continue to be able to enjoy your insightful comments on TH-cam, but if you decide to go the Patreon route I'll have to say goodbye. Wish you all the best anyway pal !
You should do both, you’ll need to keep doing these videos to drive traffic to patreon. I understand you make great content but that’s how much NBC charges here in states for peacock.
Agreed
You need to continue releasing content on YT to gain more subscribers and then release more detailed content on patreon- look at the Tifo model
Don’t really understand how not having enough time to get content up here will change by moving to Patreon? There aren’t more hours in the day on that platform!
That being said, enjoy your content and hope you can make it to Villa Park someday. UTV
Think he is saying that a steady Patreon infusion of cash would allow him to work fewer hours in his current job. Can't produce free content so the hours spent creating "THTS" must be compensated. My takeaway anyway.
@@dipthongthathongthongthong9691 objection your honour, speculation.
@@heeby123 yes, complete. I don't know the guy or his profession. Time constraints from another job can be offset by other income streams. Not sure what else the reason is.
I will definitely subscribe and you’ll take enough with you to Patreon. My only concern is if you drop TH-cam altogether it’ll be hard to attract new followers but I’m sure you and your producer have taken all that into consideration.
You’ll have my coin sir! Here’s to the remainder of this year and on to the next!
I've been watching your channel for some months now and enjoyed the content. Sad to see you moving on behind a paywall and can only hope you have done your research. All the best.
Great vid as usual! Bold move to go Patreon exclusive and understand your need to monetise, but would assume you’d continue to grow your fan base through TH-cam, alongside Patreon. I subscribe to a couple of other Patreon creators but they aren’t exclusive to Patreon, they just use it as a platform to deliver additional content for the paying subscribers. Continually converting free subscribers to paying subscribers has to the way forward otherwise it’ll be difficult to grow a fan base…Hope it works out for you, either way 👍🏻
I was really looking forward to this shoe as always but especially after the appointment of Emery however I am now saddened by the news that I will have to pay if I want to continue watching this great show from next year.
Surely there could have been some other options than this?
I will be sad when the new year comes but I just cannot afford to pay £50 a year for a you tube Chanel even as bloody good this is. Good luck Pete UTV
I'd suggest make your weekly show available on audio podcast (inc adds) as well as you tube and then have additional conent for Patreon. This is the same model MOMS use (but without the you tube). Good luck.
Paying for an internet connection is a luxury for me, sorry Pete can't commit to another luxury.
Would be cool if you also still posted out some micro content / snippets to bring people in other wise you will miss out on new followers.
Hi Pete, adore your channel. However, to turn a lovely 'fan channel' into a money making scheme just doesn't sit right with me. If people want to donate that's great, but to block the thousands who can't afford it is more about 'commercialism' than creating a Villa fan channel. I will really miss this channel as I look forward to it every week, but I'm sure you have your reasons and the very best of luck with your new career! Above all... Up, The Mighty Villa!!!
Great show as always Pete, exciting times ahead!
on the managerial matters. might it be wise to keep aaron danks on as assistant?
5 quid for such a great show. I will be signing up . Come on villains let support Pete and this brilliant honest show and by far the best on you tube
Can you pay for me too?
You should stagger it by doing smaller, free content and then paid content also. Otherwise you can’t expand your base.
Seconded; going Patreon only will probably lead to diminishing returns in terms of membership. Uploading clips might be a good idea to allow new people to find you, then directing people to Patreon for the full episode.
I will support you as your show is the best most informative and entertaining on the Tube along with Luke at UTV podcast.
Happy to do the Patreon, love the content and looking forward to more and more in depth
Love the show and very happy to pay £5 a month for your outstanding content on patreon. I watch all your videos which is probably 2 hours of entertainment and analysis per month. Plus with a steady reliable source of income I've no doubt your show will only improve. Completely understand the different views on this that you will receive, but wanted to voice my support. Keep up the great work and UTMV
If you can do a slightly reduced cost for annual membership I’m in. It’s a lot of money for some fans but if you can get something around £40 I would continue listening to you.
Any more would have to consider costs… cheers for the last few years though, love your angle always. UTV
Level headed as usual , always look forward to your insights
Definitely gonna carry on supporting th channel would love to see you at B6 doin live shows 😀 EXCITING TIMES PETE LOVING ❤️ LIFE RIGHT NOW TH STORM AS GONE GOOD TIMES HERE WE COME #UTV #VTID
Have to agree with others.. TH-cam needs to be the feeder site that advertises for the Patreon
The successful podcasts and shows keep
TH-cam content then add in-depth specials for a fee
Shame you're killing this show it's been good. Good luck in your future ventures
Great show Pete I'm happy with the appointment of Unai Emery he's definitely a winner. UTV
Def worth the price Pete...keep up the gd work.See u at Villa Park..U.T.V
Happy to support. UTV
Gutted to hear your leaving TH-cam. The price of electric and sky sports means I can’t join you but I wish you all the best good sir
You will be missed. Leaves a gap in the market for another quality Villa spokesperson. Any takers?
He didn't say he was going anywhere?
Good luck in to the future and thanks for your amazing programme and insight.
I look forward to your show & I have no qualms about contributing.
Please re-consider Pete. I pay €60 or £50 for a whole year of Sky Sports in Austria, which shows every PL and UCL game live, so not sure if your Patron idea is good value for money. Furthermore I like to see all my fave channels in one convenient place. Keep it TH-cam dude. UTMV.
Loving the away top. Its quality.
Was told Villa offered to get Gerrard a taxi back to Brum after he'd been sacked but he declined and caught the bus back with the rest of the squad. Also interesting quotes that Unai Emery told Villareal last Friday he was taking the job at B6. So it seems NSWE had made their minds up before SG got the sack.
I will be following you to Patreon best Villa show
Nice knowing ya.
great show. As someone who works in this field, I would recommend reaching at least 20k subscribers before switching solely to Patreon. If I didn't work in this field, I might recommend the same. Or maybe not comment.
Think you'd do better to monetise your presence on TH-cam than to completely gate off the content. I'm sure Neil and Paddy can tell you that there's quite a bit which comes through by way of tips on their livestream and you can add Patreon on top of that, whilst keeping most your content available for all.
Unai Emery is a progressive, hands on coach; meticulous and dedicated. If our players respond we could be in for some exciting times. UTV!
Hi Pete
You are brilliant at what you do- funny and insightful. Cream rises to the top! Best Wishes
Great show!
Hope to join the Patreon!
Totally understand the reasons why Pete. It must take a hell of a lot of time and effort. I think the principle will frustrate some people but what you and the other content producers do for free is phenomenonal... the problem is if every villa content provider did the same the average viewer would be looking at £20-30 pm for the content.
Good luck with it and I'm on the fence...though I imagine I'll support you and sign up
Like someone said, why don’t we all donate a pound or 2, which everyone can afford, and Pete has a decent bit of money for his efforts.
I do love your content and how you present it.
And although I appreciate the reasons and point of view for changing platforms, I too share similar concerns about moving right now.
I also agreeing looking into live events as you mentioned, ppl will use the superchats, donations so worth a shot. There are lots of live stream models out there for examples, a particular fav of mine is The United Stand with Mark Goldbridge who does indepth MU games and analysis. But he also does all games in the prem, euro games and international. Its another revenue stream to consider. :)
Good luck with the new direction Pete. WIll miss this channel
I hate to be mister wet knickers over here but my tenure as an Aston Villa fan has been a veritable smorgasbord of underachievement, failure and disappointment. With the exception of very few highlights. Would it be best for us to adopt a more cautious approach until we see how things develop on the pitch. I think it's fair to say that we've been here before and have been disappointed.
Dont get me wrong, I want Unia Emery to succeed as much as anyone but I feel that a cautious approach may be the best option.
One year on and what an appointment this turned out to be.
Pete - I will follow you to your new home and I will look forward to one day seeing you at VP! Great show as always.