I forgot mention in the video that Sony lent me the Sony A7C II camera to help me make this video. No money was exchanged and they have no say on the content of my video.
These videos are absolute gems. Thanks for these - I work in sports broadcasting and have yearned to be a videographer and have that creative freedom. This is literally the perfect video as I plan on upgrading from my a6400 to a dedicated videography camera.
@@BeyondTheGame_E I work for the Portland Sea Dogs baseball team (AA affil. of the Boston Red Sox). I started out as a camera operator, and now I am directing for the MiLB and MLB channels since graduating with my bach's in May. It's a sweet gig, but I miss being close to the action and on the field. The skills of broadcast camera operating don't entirely translate to what you and many other creative-focused people do, so thats my goal. Being a videographer for a major league team or in boxing/martial arts is the dream.
Thoughts on the rolling shutter performance on the A7IV and A7C II for sports video? Lots of reviewers urge people to stay away from these cameras for sports videos given their slow rolling shutter, but creators like yourself prove that it's possible to work with them. Curious what your take on that is or whether you have best practices to work the sensor readout speed. Great stuff!
Personally I’ve never ever felt like rolling shutter was holding me back on any camera I tried, including the zv-e10, and I’ve never heard anyone say that their great shot was ruined by rolling shutter. It is technically a problem but it will most likely never affect you.
Rule of thumb for both of the A7IV and A7C II: Always record in APS-C crop mode when filming fast paced content. It's the only way you get 4k50/60 on those cameras anyway. Sensor readout time in that mode is much faster than in full frame mode and rolling shutter is barely noticable that way. In those very rare occasions where you still see it and want to get rid of it, software like Sony's Catalyst Browse or the Open Source equivalent GyroFlow can leverage the gyro metadata embedded in the camera files to compensate the rolling shutter effect. I'm using my A7C II for filming motor sports and rolling shutter never has been an issue for me.
@@pckbls Bro I finally got the A7IV and when I realized APSC mode almost entirely reduces rolling shutter, it became a game changer. Plus, APSC mode does a 1:1 readout in 1080p instead of pixel binning so the Full HD looks miles better than in full frame. That's wild because it just added a whole new level of versatility to this camera. Now I need to get some wide lenses to account for the crop factor.
@@LaloRacer1 Cannot say anything regarding 1080p. 99% of the time I film in 4k50 on my Tamron 28-200mm lens which is perfect for my use cases. Glad that you're happy with your camera as well!
Is there a reason you don’t really cover the A7S3? Is it due the FX range being pushed more by Sony now? I’ve noticed it’s also not in any of your Amazon lists.
I don’t cover the A7SIII because I’ve never had the chance to use it. Which is also why I can’t recommend it. But even if I had used it, I would probably still prefer to recommend the FX3 over it. Not because it’s a bad camera, quite the opposite, simply because it’s an FX3 without certain things that make the FX3 perfect for sports videography.
I'm probably not the right person to ask because I never take photos. That's why I don't talk about photography in this video. But I think most photographers would go for the Sony A7IV.
@@BeyondTheGame_E i forgot to mention and want to see if it changes ur opinion on which camera suits me but i take photos bc my sony a6000 isnt really good for video and i like photos but video is intriguing to me. i rarely use the viewfinder too. idk the ai tracking seems cool and wondering if its major upgrade or if u still recommend a7iv
@@frexzyprod.5681 Great autofocus is a good thing to have but, in the context of a sporting event, AI tracking won't help you much. Most of the time there are several players in your shot at the same time and there is no way for the camera to know which player you actually want to focus on. So it's often going to track the wrong one or jump from one to the other.
@BeyondTheGame_E got any lens recommendations ?? I'm looking for something I don't have to change all the time right now. i have Kit 14-42 & a 45-150. I'm looking for something that can cover both ranges
Hello. Please could you advise me which camera or video camera to buy to record my son's amateur soccer games? Taking into account that I am in the stands at a long distance and I need to zoom in on the plays enough so that they look close and all the field players are perfectly focused. I currently have a very old Sony camcorder from more than 10 years ago with which I record in 1080P at 50 fps and edit the videos with Final Cut.
I don’t know much about camcorders so I can’t recommend any. But if you’re looking for a mirrorless camera, I always recommend the Sony ZV-E10 for beginners. The distance won’t have anything to do with the camera though. It’s all about the lens that you’ll choose to go with your camera.
I think all the newer models (i.e. A7Cii & 6700) have the ability to turn on/use "subject tracking" - are you using this feature? I'd love to see a video on how you would use some of the new AI features for video and setting/set up including custom buttons. Keep up the great content! I didn't think of using the A7Cii for sports videography, but it totally makes sense.
Hey E - I recently saw this video and saw your KIT Site for the equipment you use. I am curious to know if you would pair the Sony A7C II with the Sony FE 24-70 mm F2.8 GM lens for mainly basketball videography. I am planning on learning and doing this as a side hustle. And want to start with nice equipment I won't have to upgrade anytime soon. Or what lens would you recommend with the AC7 II? Thanks!!
Yes this is a great combo for basketball. But if you wanted a bit more range, you could go with this lens instead th-cam.com/video/MP84NHcRBHw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8Oh5Ll0HIURZScM_
I forgot mention in the video that Sony lent me the Sony A7C II camera to help me make this video. No money was exchanged and they have no say on the content of my video.
Your the only sports yt that really help me decide on what camera to get thanks I recommend your page for anybody 10/10
Thank you so much!
What camera did you go with??
@@luisogando8546 sony a7iii
These videos are absolute gems. Thanks for these - I work in sports broadcasting and have yearned to be a videographer and have that creative freedom. This is literally the perfect video as I plan on upgrading from my a6400 to a dedicated videography camera.
Glad to be of service! What do you do in sports broadcasting if you don’t mind me asking?
@@BeyondTheGame_E I work for the Portland Sea Dogs baseball team (AA affil. of the Boston Red Sox). I started out as a camera operator, and now I am directing for the MiLB and MLB channels since graduating with my bach's in May. It's a sweet gig, but I miss being close to the action and on the field. The skills of broadcast camera operating don't entirely translate to what you and many other creative-focused people do, so thats my goal. Being a videographer for a major league team or in boxing/martial arts is the dream.
Sounds like you’re on the right path!
You’re dope bro, you just sold me on this camera. Finally
@@LifeofIb congratulations on the new acquisition!
Thoughts on the rolling shutter performance on the A7IV and A7C II for sports video? Lots of reviewers urge people to stay away from these cameras for sports videos given their slow rolling shutter, but creators like yourself prove that it's possible to work with them. Curious what your take on that is or whether you have best practices to work the sensor readout speed. Great stuff!
Personally I’ve never ever felt like rolling shutter was holding me back on any camera I tried, including the zv-e10, and I’ve never heard anyone say that their great shot was ruined by rolling shutter. It is technically a problem but it will most likely never affect you.
Rule of thumb for both of the A7IV and A7C II: Always record in APS-C crop mode when filming fast paced content. It's the only way you get 4k50/60 on those cameras anyway. Sensor readout time in that mode is much faster than in full frame mode and rolling shutter is barely noticable that way. In those very rare occasions where you still see it and want to get rid of it, software like Sony's Catalyst Browse or the Open Source equivalent GyroFlow can leverage the gyro metadata embedded in the camera files to compensate the rolling shutter effect. I'm using my A7C II for filming motor sports and rolling shutter never has been an issue for me.
@@pckbls Bro I finally got the A7IV and when I realized APSC mode almost entirely reduces rolling shutter, it became a game changer. Plus, APSC mode does a 1:1 readout in 1080p instead of pixel binning so the Full HD looks miles better than in full frame. That's wild because it just added a whole new level of versatility to this camera. Now I need to get some wide lenses to account for the crop factor.
@@LaloRacer1 Cannot say anything regarding 1080p. 99% of the time I film in 4k50 on my Tamron 28-200mm lens which is perfect for my use cases. Glad that you're happy with your camera as well!
Is there a reason you don’t really cover the A7S3? Is it due the FX range being pushed more by Sony now? I’ve noticed it’s also not in any of your Amazon lists.
I don’t cover the A7SIII because I’ve never had the chance to use it. Which is also why I can’t recommend it. But even if I had used it, I would probably still prefer to recommend the FX3 over it. Not because it’s a bad camera, quite the opposite, simply because it’s an FX3 without certain things that make the FX3 perfect for sports videography.
@@BeyondTheGame_E That makes sense. I appreciate that you refrain from passing judgement on cameras you haven’t used before.
Love it man
Love your videos man 🤝🏻 and the podcast
Thank you! Appreciated 👊🏽
i'm looking to upgrade from a zve10 and now you gave me the confirmation for to buy this beautiful camera hahaha +.+
Thanks! I also just made a review of the Sony ZV-E10 II that you should check out th-cam.com/video/DJxqCjn0tTU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=D8LXwBNOJitk1Eob
@@BeyondTheGame_E it’s okay i will buy the a7cii 🤭
@@felipeicr847 👍🏽
Does anyone know if background blur/bokeh will be affected???
Affected by what?
@@BeyondTheGame_E EFCS
@@aspilobo what’s that?
Is the 4k60 crop on the a7cii the same low light performance as the 4k60 on the a6700 being a crop sensor camera.
I'm not 100% sure but I don't think that a crop on a full frame sensor affects the light intake.
This camera seems like a good option for my next upgrade 😮
for hybrid would u recommend this a7cii or the sony a7iv
I'm probably not the right person to ask because I never take photos. That's why I don't talk about photography in this video. But I think most photographers would go for the Sony A7IV.
@@BeyondTheGame_E ok thank you!
@@BeyondTheGame_E i forgot to mention and want to see if it changes ur opinion on which camera suits me but i take photos bc my sony a6000 isnt really good for video and i like photos but video is intriguing to me. i rarely use the viewfinder too. idk the ai tracking seems cool and wondering if its major upgrade or if u still recommend a7iv
@@frexzyprod.5681 Great autofocus is a good thing to have but, in the context of a sporting event, AI tracking won't help you much. Most of the time there are several players in your shot at the same time and there is no way for the camera to know which player you actually want to focus on. So it's often going to track the wrong one or jump from one to the other.
@@BeyondTheGame_E ok cool, thanks again!
Love it! ❤
What Lens did you use ?
The same one I reviewed in this video th-cam.com/video/MP84NHcRBHw/w-d-xo.html
Awesome video!
Thank you!
How do you feel about Lumix G85 as budget indoor sports cam??
It’s a great place to start.
@BeyondTheGame_E thanks I just ordered the gh5 instead
@@NerdyYellaDude That's definitely a better camera than the G85. Congrats and enjoy!
@@BeyondTheGame_E 🫱🏾🫲🏽
@BeyondTheGame_E got any lens recommendations ?? I'm looking for something I don't have to change all the time right now. i have Kit 14-42 & a 45-150. I'm looking for something that can cover both ranges
Thanks for this solid review E....when you shoot 24P sports action are using 180º shutter? Thanks!
For the most part yes. I might try to go with a slightly faster shutter speed but not that much faster.
@@BeyondTheGame_E thank you!
Hello. Please could you advise me which camera or video camera to buy to record my son's amateur soccer games?
Taking into account that I am in the stands at a long distance and I need to zoom in on the plays enough so that they look close and all the field players are perfectly focused.
I currently have a very old Sony camcorder from more than 10 years ago with which I record in 1080P at 50 fps and edit the videos with Final Cut.
I don’t know much about camcorders so I can’t recommend any. But if you’re looking for a mirrorless camera, I always recommend the Sony ZV-E10 for beginners. The distance won’t have anything to do with the camera though. It’s all about the lens that you’ll choose to go with your camera.
Great info...THANK YOU!!!! Where did you get the sticker that's your camera cap?
Thanks! The sticker is from a company called Field Made Co. They make all sorts of cool stickers for camera and lens caps.
I think all the newer models (i.e. A7Cii & 6700) have the ability to turn on/use "subject tracking" - are you using this feature? I'd love to see a video on how you would use some of the new AI features for video and setting/set up including custom buttons. Keep up the great content! I didn't think of using the A7Cii for sports videography, but it totally makes sense.
Thanks! Yes I do use subject tracking sometimes but it is sort of hit and miss as other players get in your way.
Hey E - I recently saw this video and saw your KIT Site for the equipment you use. I am curious to know if you would pair the Sony A7C II with the Sony FE 24-70 mm F2.8 GM lens for mainly basketball videography. I am planning on learning and doing this as a side hustle. And want to start with nice equipment I won't have to upgrade anytime soon. Or what lens would you recommend with the AC7 II?
Thanks!!
Yes this is a great combo for basketball. But if you wanted a bit more range, you could go with this lens instead th-cam.com/video/MP84NHcRBHw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8Oh5Ll0HIURZScM_
@@BeyondTheGame_E Thank you for your input! I am putting it on my list and goal to get this Summer, if not sooner.
Real world test starts at 4:36😅. You’re welcome
Thanks 😉