Ah yes, because a 9 year old knows all about the complexities around politics and first nations peoples. Thanks for your input rove (city/ivory tower occupant)...
Aaaand they lost. Rove will now have to have a grown up conversation with his nine year old why so many Australians including many indigenous people thought that the voice would not make any real difference for them and why those who pushed the voice may not actually represent the people they say they do also having a thought excercise about how the 400 million dollars could have been used in a way that actually helped the real disadvantaged out there.
When will you learn that we dont care what celebrities have to say. Say no to protected classes. Say no to segregation. Say no to institutional racism.
What if they are at a real disadvantage though do they not want opportunities to improve their life? Plus not to mention constitutional recognition since they're First Nations people
@@hornetpilot1817 they are the first Australians so the constitution should outline that and the voice was designed to be a permanent advisory body to help aboriginals who experience serious disadvantages. It may not have been perfect but it's better than nothing.
@@rahulbhatia7798 the constitution defines and unites all Australians, it's not meant to separate us based on when and from where we came from. If the voice is that helpful why couldn't they legislate it instead of trying to amend the constitution? Can't we not help Aboriginals without writing into our constitution?
@@hornetpilot1817 that's a good question with why could they not legislate it. Well that's because then other governments like the liberal party etc may get rid of it all together. Whereas if it's in the constitution no such thing can be done unless they have a whole other referendum. Hopefully that clears it up.
@@noneofyourbusiness7396 I don't know anything about Canada's history...all I know is that "First Nations" is a term used to refer to the people who lived in Canada before the British arrived.
The supposedly First Nations of Australia and people like Rove keep gaslighting us that their culture and their habitation is 40000-65000 years old or the oldest in the world. Otherwise they would refer to themselves as the previous nations.@@davidkeenan5989
Only reason it's not on the ballot is because changing the constitution for their Voice and racial recognition requires a referendum. Not so with treaty/s and reparations. In Australia if there's anything actually important enough to the government that they want and the people don't, the people never really get a say.
This presentation is racism to the core. Anything that promotes a people just on colour of skin. Is the true definition of racism. The aboriginal communities are not suffering because they don't have representation or a place to express the issues. The problem is the political and the black and white industry that has been built on these issues don't do there job as doing there job stops the issues and stops the money. So many people make money only because the issues are not resolved. A 9 year old can not understand what is involved in business and politics. So keep your daughters opinion out of this, as the emotional blackmail is not improving anybody's life. It is just more division. Again get off your backside and go and see and talk to the people in these communities and find out what the issues really are. Stop listening to the activists as they all have an agenda of there own. Police don't go hunting for people to lock up without a reason. So aunty is also a criminal for harbering criminals. Interference with the police. No more separation. 1 Australia 1 rule 1 welfare.
Wow!.... his 9 yr. old daughter get's it!...Bet she has poster of Greta Thunberg on her bedroom wall too!.... and another revolation...'Auntie' Pat says 'we can't do it on our own'...what about the last 65,000 yrs.?
I don't need advice from a washed up celebrity who thinks he can tell me to be decent for once. Two words for you one starts with F and one starts with Y
@@always12lovemusic Yer, and what % of that 59% is made up of Land Councils, Aboriginal Corporations, the Likes of Pearson who have fed off programs and got wealthy ?
@@zen1647somebody suggested a particular group of people should get a special voice to parliament that nobody else gets. Most of that special group agrees they should get the special treatment. That is enough evidence for everyone else to agree with the special treatment. Please name all the special groups that it would be ok to apply these statements to.
@@peterbarrett1015 People that have a history of being wrongly treated by the constitution and the proceeding governments for over 200 years. Aboriginal people would have a voice but they would also have the responsibility of providing feedback and ideas of value. And then the government can ignore the voice if the people they represent want to.
The Australian people are constantly being manipulated either by government their mouth pieces the mainstream media, so called influencers, over opinionated celebrities and the elite. For me as soon as one of these biased categories start telling me their opinion I totally do the opposite, as for Rove I watched and listened to you forever but I will never again. Jodi-hargraves
Same. Whenever the police say stop resisting I keep resisting. You know why? Because these biased categories start telling me their opinion so I totally do the opposite.
What’s your point? The clear majority are voting YES. As a privileged white person, I’m not pretending that I’m a victim. I’m just being reasonable and saying YES. Either way it won’t affect me but since I’m not a mean spirited precious ‘white victim’, I’ll say yes.
I guess trying to hobnob with the Hollywood elites in LA has lowered his opinion of us indecent average normies. Even uses his 9 year old as a political tool. I remember the old Rove show with Dave & Corinne, its was a great show. Sad to see where he has ended up.
Utter emotional Tosh Rove. We don't know what we are voting for and it has not been explained. And it can't be explained because it is too vague to explain. Ultimately the High Court will tell us what it means. We could well end up with the equivalent of a third chamber of Parliament, an Australian House of Lords. No thanks.
@@BreadGuy01 Wrong. Took no notice as I do not watch the the Project and did not watch this clip. It was just a comment about another media person who thinks they are special and everyone should believe what they say .
Have you? "We seek constitutional reforms to empower our people and take a rightful place in our own country. When we have power over our destiny our children will flourish. They will walk in two worlds and their culture will be a gift to their country. We call for the establishment of a First Nations Voice enshrined in the Constitution. Makarrata is the culmination of our agenda: the coming together after a struggle. It captures our aspirations for a fair and truthful relationship with the people of Australia and a better future for our children based on justice and self-determination."
This is why politics should be strictly kept at the voting booth. People are too emotional these days and feel like they need to express their views for everyone to see and then it just leads to division, hatred, ignorance and in more cases lately violence. Ruins the foundation of common ground.
Hey paramount, can you read the comments or ratings? Yes you can fill the online argument ( a poor won at that) but what else can this show offer? Money down the drain 🤣
Are we just going to pretend we don’t know his 9 year old daughter has aboriginal blood? If she is Roves wife’s, Tasma Walton’s, daughter, then she’s aboriginal. Shame on you Rove, using another anecdotal Aunty’s story to claim ‘truth telling’. Much like Harold Holt being taken by mermaids right? This is one of the reasons ‘indecent’ Australians worry, ‘story time’ being wrapped up as ‘Dreamtime’. Wominjeka to all Australians. 🌹❤️🇦🇺
He really spoke a whole lot of nothing didn’t he? Lots of just frustrated elitist unfinished, unconvincing, contrived, pandering, virtue-signalling, clichéd, broken, thought-blocked sentences. No perspective with average Australians. Indigenous, white or other.
Well said, Media, comedians, everyone has a right to their opinion and everyone has a right to agree, disagree or change the channel. My only misgiving is that Rove’s comments came late in the campaign.
That sounds like non logical left wing woke nonsense. If you are asking people to have decency you are implying that they are not decent.@@davidkeenan5989
For me it’s pretty simple. 80% of indigenous people want this and this affects them. I’d have to be kind of a jerk to deny them it. It doesn’t affect me. I don’t play the victim in life like most of the right with their Trump like ideology.
The Voice is mind boggling. They shouldn't have made the referendum question so vauge - it could be interpreted in any number of ways by the High Court.
Rove, you raised my whole opinion of you, this was so well put and gave me goosebumps. Of course there will be the usual anti-project comments, but what you said needed to be said by someone so close to the referendum. Why can’t Aussies get out of their complacency with not needing to change. Why can’t we be a little kinder to each other.
"Why can’t Aussies get out of their complacency with not needing to change. Why can’t we be a little kinder to each other." Those who voted No are not complacent - they are simply more cognisant than you are of the fact that "changes" and "progress" are not necessarily the same thing. And what exactly is "kind" about changing the way this country is governed by deliberately dividing it by race?
Thanks for saying what you said and the way you said it Rove-👌that was good as man.. powerful, authentic lots of love, was everything it needed to be...💥
Historically incorrect to say “first nations” Australia was the first nation on this land. The Aboriginal tribes didnt form a nation and none of their tribes would be considered a nation, under the meaning of that word. They werent an organized state.
We don’t need a voice, we need an audit.
What kind of audit?
@@davidkeenan5989financial
An Adult too
Damn straight. Where have the billions gone? Not to the people that need it. Thank his it didn’t go through it would of been so much worse
@@davidkeenan5989an audit to see where the billions of dollars given to these governing bodies in charge of aboriginal affairs have gone.
Ah yes, because a 9 year old knows all about the complexities around politics and first nations peoples. Thanks for your input rove (city/ivory tower occupant)...
Ah yes, an assumption based off absolutely nothing. You forgot your tinfoil hate mate.
Vin you take any advice from a 9 year old lately? 🤣 yea I don’t think so. Enjoy the national no day!
Aaaand they lost. Rove will now have to have a grown up conversation with his nine year old why so many Australians including many indigenous people thought that the voice would not make any real difference for them and why those who pushed the voice may not actually represent the people they say they do also having a thought excercise about how the 400 million dollars could have been used in a way that actually helped the real disadvantaged out there.
When will you learn that we dont care what celebrities have to say.
Say no to protected classes.
Say no to segregation.
Say no to institutional racism.
When will you learn that we dont care what muppets like you have to say...???
@@AdamSandaver
I am well aware that the grifter & political class doesn't care what us average normies have to say.
You obviously care. Quite deeply, it seems. At least if your copy-pasting adventure through these comment threads is anything to go by.
I spoke to my aboriginal friends and they all said ‘no’. So ‘no’ it is. They said they’re all Australians and don’t want to be treated differently.
What if they are at a real disadvantage though do they not want opportunities to improve their life? Plus not to mention constitutional recognition since they're First Nations people
@@rahulbhatia7798the constitution recognises ALL Australians. Are they not Australians?
@@hornetpilot1817 they are the first Australians so the constitution should outline that and the voice was designed to be a permanent advisory body to help aboriginals who experience serious disadvantages. It may not have been perfect but it's better than nothing.
@@rahulbhatia7798 the constitution defines and unites all Australians, it's not meant to separate us based on when and from where we came from.
If the voice is that helpful why couldn't they legislate it instead of trying to amend the constitution? Can't we not help Aboriginals without writing into our constitution?
@@hornetpilot1817 that's a good question with why could they not legislate it. Well that's because then other governments like the liberal party etc may get rid of it all together. Whereas if it's in the constitution no such thing can be done unless they have a whole other referendum. Hopefully that clears it up.
That simple rove but you forgot about the treaty and 80% of aboriginal people don’t want it
You will find that the remote NT aboriginal communities voted in a resounding yes. A yes to be listened too.
@@julianmartin7985 wrong
I honestly don't know what First Nations People have to do with Australia, it's Canada's responsibility.
The DNA proves that the "first nations" narrative is as false for Canadians as it is Australians who borrowed it from the Canadians.
@@noneofyourbusiness7396 I don't know anything about Canada's history...all I know is that "First Nations" is a term used to refer to the people who lived in Canada before the British arrived.
Like here?
The supposedly First Nations of Australia and people like Rove keep gaslighting us that their culture and their habitation is 40000-65000 years old or the oldest in the world. Otherwise they would refer to themselves as the previous nations.@@davidkeenan5989
All First Nations live in Canada … there’s an informed voter 🫣
Its a trojan horse for treaty and reparations. Doesn't say it on the ballot but that's what it would be established for.
Only reason it's not on the ballot is because changing the constitution for their Voice and racial recognition requires a referendum. Not so with treaty/s and reparations. In Australia if there's anything actually important enough to the government that they want and the people don't, the people never really get a say.
thanks Rove, Im voting NO
Yeah thanks for that bit of verbal diarrhoea Rove …..I voted NO
Hey rove say hi to your mum for me
If a referendum requests us to state our choice, we should not be "campaigned" to potentially change the true outcome
Absolutely!
Listen to Jacinta price talk ✌️
This presentation is racism to the core. Anything that promotes a people just on colour of skin. Is the true definition of racism. The aboriginal communities are not suffering because they don't have representation or a place to express the issues. The problem is the political and the black and white industry that has been built on these issues don't do there job as doing there job stops the issues and stops the money. So many people make money only because the issues are not resolved. A 9 year old can not understand what is involved in business and politics. So keep your daughters opinion out of this, as the emotional blackmail is not improving anybody's life. It is just more division. Again get off your backside and go and see and talk to the people in these communities and find out what the issues really are. Stop listening to the activists as they all have an agenda of there own. Police don't go hunting for people to lock up without a reason. So aunty is also a criminal for harbering criminals. Interference with the police. No more separation. 1 Australia 1 rule 1 welfare.
I voted NO nearly two weeks ago. It was a NO brainer. Will I change my mind... NO.
Do you even have a mind? NO.
@@alexishart1989 Are you a communist? YES.
Alexis, 60% of Australia proved you wrong
Wow!.... his 9 yr. old daughter get's it!...Bet she has poster of Greta Thunberg on her bedroom wall too!.... and another revolation...'Auntie' Pat says 'we can't do it on our own'...what about the last 65,000 yrs.?
You had 1 job mcmanus, be our tv god. Now you have ruined it with your political opinion, well done
I don't need advice from a washed up celebrity who thinks he can tell me to be decent for once. Two words for you one starts with F and one starts with Y
It’s clear that you love playing the victim like most NO voters. I bet you like Trump.
McM anus
Pushing the corporate voice on the majority of aboriginal people who don't want it is morally wrong write no ✌️
59% is a majority. Down from 80% in January though.
@@always12lovemusic Yer, and what % of that 59% is made up of Land Councils, Aboriginal Corporations, the Likes of Pearson who have fed off programs and got wealthy ?
All these famous people supporting the voice and you still lost XD
Mate they have one and now we want a royal commission into $ spent on aboriginal affairs. Because we all know that billions of $ are wasted
Thanks Rove. I will be decent. It's a no from me. Elites down talking to the masses are why this is failing. You just helped no along a little.
Nope. You're just an @hole
This proposal came from Aboriginal communities around Australia. Some of most disadvantaged communities we have. They are not elites.
Rove is not an elite.
@@zen1647somebody suggested a particular group of people should get a special voice to parliament that nobody else gets. Most of that special group agrees they should get the special treatment. That is enough evidence for everyone else to agree with the special treatment.
Please name all the special groups that it would be ok to apply these statements to.
@@peterbarrett1015 People that have a history of being wrongly treated by the constitution and the proceeding governments for over 200 years.
Aboriginal people would have a voice but they would also have the responsibility of providing feedback and ideas of value. And then the government can ignore the voice if the people they represent want to.
The Australian people are constantly being manipulated either by government their mouth pieces the mainstream media, so called influencers, over opinionated celebrities and the elite.
For me as soon as one of these biased categories start telling me their opinion I totally do the opposite,
as for Rove I watched and listened to you forever but I will never again. Jodi-hargraves
Same. Whenever the police say stop resisting I keep resisting. You know why? Because these biased categories start telling me their opinion so I totally do the opposite.
Nect minit you you get right onto Newscorp media for balanced news...
I've heard from Aboriginals that are saying NO
*lol* You spoke to all of them? Impressive!
@@OGMillwood He didn't say all of them.
What’s your point? The clear majority are voting YES. As a privileged white person, I’m not pretending that I’m a victim. I’m just being reasonable and saying YES. Either way it won’t affect me but since I’m not a mean spirited precious ‘white victim’, I’ll say yes.
@@pantherz9103 So No voters are mean spirited precious white victims? 🤣
@@pantherz9103 ok good for you
The project is a joke
It’s that simple🤣 he didn’t explain anything
I guess trying to hobnob with the Hollywood elites in LA has lowered his opinion of us indecent average normies. Even uses his 9 year old as a political tool. I remember the old Rove show with Dave & Corinne, its was a great show. Sad to see where he has ended up.
Did you switch accounts to post another comment which agrees with your original comment? Might be spending a liiiiitle too much time online, bro.
You lost Rove. We need winners, not losers!
Utter emotional Tosh Rove. We don't know what we are voting for and it has not been explained. And it can't be explained because it is too vague to explain. Ultimately the High Court will tell us what it means. We could well end up with the equivalent of a third chamber of Parliament, an Australian House of Lords. No thanks.
Can't think of any good reason to take a blind bit of notice of this self appointed know it all
Sounds that you similarly struggle to hear anyone that makes a genuine rational argument different perhaps to your own….
Took enough notice to write a comment.
@@BreadGuy01 Wrong. Took no notice as I do not watch the the Project and did not watch this clip. It was just a comment about another media person who thinks they are special and everyone should believe what they say .
Have you read the Ularu Statement you are wrong!
Have you?
"We seek constitutional reforms to empower our people and take a rightful place in our own country. When we have power over our destiny our children will flourish. They will walk in two worlds and their culture will be a gift to their country.
We call for the establishment of a First Nations Voice enshrined in the Constitution.
Makarrata is the culmination of our agenda: the coming together after a struggle. It captures our aspirations for a fair and truthful relationship with the people of Australia and a better future for our children based on justice and self-determination."
I said NO to division...
Great… a voice to parliament, with no obligation to act upon that voice. Yeh that’ll work Rove. Not.
So sick of these tv people virtue signalling and are so out of touch with common folks
A pathetic virtue signalling rant and even trying to pull more guilt with his kid
The yes campaigners just don’t get it!
ITS NOT ABOUT FEELINGS!
You nailed it.
First Nations is so cringe, co opted from Canada and usually used by people who don’t actually mix with black fellas, at all
This is why politics should be strictly kept at the voting booth. People are too emotional these days and feel like they need to express their views for everyone to see and then it just leads to division, hatred, ignorance and in more cases lately violence. Ruins the foundation of common ground.
Ironic huh?
"Its a very simple thing. I can read all the words and its a yes or no answer" says guy without a clue.
Sad to see rove go woke.
Whatever
Offends
Klansmen
Easily
Honestly, people that go around screeching "woke!" are just unintelligent and have no real contribution to make.
Rigging time.
why would anyone care what your 9 year old say rove? sh'es 9.
And with a woke father as her role model.
No rove
Hey paramount, can you read the comments or ratings? Yes you can fill the online argument ( a poor won at that) but what else can this show offer? Money down the drain 🤣
Look out everybody...the beacon of 'decency' has spoken
Are we just going to pretend we don’t know his 9 year old daughter has aboriginal blood? If she is Roves wife’s, Tasma Walton’s, daughter, then she’s aboriginal.
Shame on you Rove, using another anecdotal Aunty’s story to claim ‘truth telling’. Much like Harold Holt being taken by mermaids right? This is one of the reasons ‘indecent’ Australians worry, ‘story time’ being wrapped up as ‘Dreamtime’.
Wominjeka to all Australians. 🌹❤️🇦🇺
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Flaud arguments that ain't even worth a rebuttal.
It's not decent to ignore aboriginal people who you don't know ✌️ write no ✌️
He really spoke a whole lot of nothing didn’t he? Lots of just frustrated elitist unfinished, unconvincing, contrived, pandering, virtue-signalling, clichéd, broken, thought-blocked sentences. No perspective with average Australians. Indigenous, white or other.
Well said, Media, comedians, everyone has a right to their opinion and everyone has a right to agree, disagree or change the channel. My only misgiving is that Rove’s comments came late in the campaign.
Thank you Rove. This is an absolute no brainer. And a positive beginning. I hope that decency prevails. Well said.
Decency?
So your version of “decency” is a Trojan horse clown
Agreed
There's that word "Decency" again. There are many decent people voting NO like you should
decent people don't want to divide our country based on race.
Common sense fallacy.
No
You are the best News Anchor in Australia. Thank you so much for being transparent. We need more people like you.
Hell no!
Thank you Rove for putting this so simply & for your passion. For anyone sitting on the fence, please listen to this.
Omg well done Rove. You spoke from the heart, thank you....❤
He got angry and lectured people as if they were simpletons.
Speaking from the heart, without understanding the issue or having any facts to back his views. Typical.
yes
So well said ❤😢
Are you serious? He got angry and insulted No voters, suggesting they had no decency.
what emotional "SWILL"
He didn't suggest they had no decency. He was asking for decency this time.
That sounds like non logical left wing woke nonsense. If you are asking people to have decency you are implying that they are not decent.@@davidkeenan5989
Thank you. Again indigenous people are still out the back with the dogs
It's not too late. Keep praying everyone. Please Australia.. let's show ourselves and the world we are confident in moving forward...
I dont care what the world thinks about us
Imagine voting against your best interests just for updoots on social media.
I love these people who make these asinine comments. They never leave a real name.
For me it’s pretty simple. 80% of indigenous people want this and this affects them. I’d have to be kind of a jerk to deny them it. It doesn’t affect me. I don’t play the victim in life like most of the right with their Trump like ideology.
Well done for trying. You lost 🤣🤣
Good onya Rove. It boggles my mind as well.
The Voice is mind boggling. They shouldn't have made the referendum question so vauge - it could be interpreted in any number of ways by the High Court.
It's not mind boggling. As he explained, it's a simple question and isn't vague (not vague, btw).
@@davidkeenan5989 vague, not vague, thank you!
Because you have a low IQ and very easily influenced.
Rove gets it!! 100%
Rove, you raised my whole opinion of you, this was so well put and gave me goosebumps.
Of course there will be the usual anti-project comments, but what you said needed to be said by someone so close to the referendum.
Why can’t Aussies get out of their complacency with not needing to change. Why can’t we be a little kinder to each other.
"Why can’t Aussies get out of their complacency with not needing to change. Why can’t we be a little kinder to each other."
Those who voted No are not complacent - they are simply more cognisant than you are of the fact that "changes" and "progress" are not necessarily the same thing.
And what exactly is "kind" about changing the way this country is governed by deliberately dividing it by race?
@@uberboiz great question. No answer of course 🤣🤣
Thankyou for speaking up Rove.
There it is in a nutshell well said Rove
Thanks for saying what you said and the way you said it Rove-👌that was good as man.. powerful, authentic lots of love, was everything it needed to be...💥
Well said Rove ❤
Channel 10 is the most inclusive commercial channel. 10 out of 10 ❤
Rove, dear oh dear.
Hahahahahaha how about you read the room champ
Historically incorrect to say “first nations” Australia was the first nation on this land. The Aboriginal tribes didnt form a nation and none of their tribes would be considered a nation, under the meaning of that word. They werent an organized state.