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Notion VS Coda: Who wins in 2022? (Honest Comparison)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- Notion VS Coda: Which is the better software in 2022?
Hey there software lovers! Those of you who follow my channel know that I LOVE Notion! In today's video I show you a Notion competitor that I have been coming to enjoy: Coda! Coda from a technical stand point, definitely outperforms Notion. But, from a usability perspective Notion fights back. Both Notion and Coda are great software, but which one will win this race?
Notion to Coda Importer:
coda.io/@carte...
Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
0:43 - Evolution of Software
1:47 - Notion's Founders
3:01 - Coda's Founders
3:28 - Valuations
4:09 - Notion VS Coda
4:23 - Notion VS Coda Pricing
5:57 - Notion VS Coda Note Taking
7:42 - Notion VS Coda Databases
8:34 - Notion VS Coda Database Views
9:56 - Notion VS Coda Relational Events
10:40 - Notion VS Coda Learning Curve
12:18 - Notion VS Coda Formulas
13:50 - Notion VS Coda Community
14:51 - Notion VS Coda Templates
16:22 - Notion VS Coda Support
17:24 - Notion VS Coda Ease of Use
17:57 - Notion VS Coda Integrations
19:40 - Notion VS Coda Block Types
20:35 - Which Software Wins?
22:40 - How to Move Your Notion Workspace to Coda
24:00 - Outro - Please Subscribe :)
#Coda #Notion #NotionVSCoda
Easily transfer your Notion account into Coda in two simple steps! 😎⬇️
coda.io/@carter-surach/notion-coda-importer
What 3rd party app do you use for creating forms in Notion?
@@daynesullivan it’s called Notion Forms I believe
@@ProductiveDude Thank you!
Just in case someone is stopping by here in 2023 and beyond, Coda just released 4.0, which, among expected feature and AI updates, changes the pricing structure to be more personal-use friendly. They removed size limits for docs and added two-way database syncing which are probably the biggest factors to kick them up a notch.
I still like notion and trying to evaluate which would work best for my use case, but thought that would be good to add if you end up here! Cheers!
Excellent comparison! Thess are the two to compare, yet too few bother to do it. Long-time Notion user, easing my way into Coda. Getting harder to deny the bigger capabilities. The one knock on Coda that keeps me from switching completely is that Notion makes it super easy to export your data to markdown/html with a single click, and Coda requires manual copy/paste doc by doc. It's a Hotel California approach and IMO it's fatal to those who value tranferability.
Woah, they totally need to add that, you're right. I didn't even think about it.
Yes, this is my main concern when it comes to start choosing and diving into Coda!
This is a very good overview! I actually prefer Coda in almost all aspects, it is far superior to Notion. But there are 2 major differences:
1. Notion's mobile app is significantly better than Coda's.
2. Coda is very limited in the free version regarding the number of formulas, buttons or views. It happens very quickly that you reach the limit of 50 objects in the document, which has never happened to me with Notion.
Agreed, Notion mobile is way stronger! :)
@@ProductiveDude I love Notion on the desktop, but I think Notion mobile is truly terrible. It's reallly flaky, animations are janky, and navigation is completely broken.
They need to rebuild it as a native app, instead of an Electron, React frankenstein.
Thanks very much for making me discover Coda. I've been using Notion for a while and I love it. But sometimes I wished it could do more. So imagine my delight when I watched this video. Apart from the fact it doesn't handle recurring tasks natively, Coda is pretty much everything I've ever wanted Notion to be.
Can't wait to watch your next videos on Coda soon.
Great I’ll have more on the way! :)
I just posted a video on how to simply create recurring tasks in Coda. Give it a watch. I think you’ll be surprised how simple it actually is. :)
@Cody it is better on many fronts but to me it feels like an unfinished product, at the end of the day it’s slow and buggy from my experience.
@Cody Correct... or I'm waiting until Coda can get their act together a bit more in terms of speed and reliability on my phone and computer.
The other thing to note is, I DO use Coda personally. I don't tend to upload as many videos about Coda right now though.
I use it for my meal planner on a weekly basis. I've also built an amazing workout tracker in Coda with my brother for his workouts.
It's certainly capable I just found that the ui and the reliability is only 85% of the way there. I need it to be at least 98% of the way there.
I think that Notion, from a per user/reader perspective, is still much cheaper. Notion pages can be shared publicly to anyone with no need to login.
Good point!
Wonderful job summing up the comparison. I've been drawn more to Coda, especially after spending some time in both. The styles in Coda just feel so much better, especially with the Large Serif font.
Coda is certainly winning on many fronts.
I've used Notion for some time now and I just discovered Coda with your video so I'm not able to make as thorough a comparaison as you did but I'm excited to give a try to coda to see if I can do what I unfortunately can't with Notion. Thank you for the amazing video
Sure thing! Glad it helped.
Nice video. I would be interested to see comparisons between security, backup, offline, mobile apps and speed too.
one of the best comparisons I've seen, as a 5 year Notion user I'm beginning to experiment with Coda in smaller groups.
CODA Seems better for techies who want precise control over more details. The notion app. seems better for starters who just want to take notes, store, and retrieve information. Based on everything that I have seen heard and read so far, the difference is like piloting the airplane vs. being a passenger on the airplane who can do various things as they travel. It simply depends on how you prefer to travel to your destination. For me, I DON'T want to pilot the plane. I just want to get there in one piece as painlessly as possible.
A good analogy. I'm debating about continuing to try and introduce coda (or any doc platform) to my boss. I think the doc (coda, notion, etc) system is invaluable but I think the migration from spreadsheets & files everywhere to a doc system sadly might be too big of a leap
Introducing a new application into an organization is a big step for a small company (60 employees), so this review was gold for me. Especially making me understand the pricing model is a crucial aspect, in addition to understanding what product that will be the more flexible so that I don't have to introduce yet another application. Coda is your winner and I agree with you.
Thanks for the feedback and congrats on running a 60 person company. That’s incredible! Let me know if you need help on setup.
Such a valuable review. Thank you for this.
Agree with the other commenters here, good job. I would have liked you to also address the concepts of Packs that Coda has. Maybe as a subset of integration, but preferably as a standalone topic. It is just a major distinguishing feature.
Agreed, since creating this video packs has come so far! :)
Maybe we're due for an update in 2023.
Hey Carter, great video. Thank you for sharing.
I was researching Coda and stumbled upon it.
On thing that's interesting for my personal use case is "permissions". I'll dig into Coda to see what that looks like but Notion is still a little behind when you need to hide certain information from clients to give an example. Not sure how coda handles this, but I'll be checking it out.
Keep up the good work mate, cheers.
Thanks for your comment!
Thank you dude! Been on the fence of restarting a life wiki wishing notion but coda sounds great! btw… youre eyebrows are on point 🤩🙏
Thanks Sean I appreciate that. More Coda videos will be in the works.
I was researching Coda this evening as I’m a Notion user, like yourself I was looking for an easier way to create input forms which I understand from your review is available in Coda… and loads more, thank you 🙏 for your effort creating and sharing this comparison video extremely helpful… here I go opening a Coda account 🏃♂️
Goodluck, I think you'll enjoy your experience in Coda. They're so under the radar compared to Notion but Coda is a hidden gem.
Have you been happy with Coda, and are you using it instead of Notion? What have you liked and disliked about Coda?
Best comparison of two complex business grade apps I've seen on TH-cam, thanks
Glad it was helpful!
I just tried to switch from Notion to Coda a couple weeks ago after using Notion for over a year and I found that Coda was unusably slow for all of my larger databases (e.g., my tasks database has several hundred pages in it). In Notion every database has always been speedy. It's unfortunate because I think Coda does many other things far better than Coda.
This is a good point. Coda - especially it’s mobile app seem slow and buggy at times when you get lots of data in a table and your messing around with it. Sometimes it completely stops working when you’re writing for a long time and you have to reset the mobile app.
I just found Coda, it looks promising, but when I read your comment, I better stay with Notion for now.
I also tried to switch to coda today, and just a small database with books (around 100 items) was slow after import from Notion.
6 mos later... still the case?
@@tienlx91
Really good video. I’ve used notion daily for a couple of yrs for everything. If I had a time machine i def would’ve spent that time in coda. The constant need for workarounds to do what other platforms do natively, lack of development, etc for a company “worth billions” has been frustrating to say the least. There’s tons of notion individual devs now to make up for the lack of native development. At first I was excited about the community but now that I know how to use the platform, I don’t need the hype.
A big thing I would’ve talked about in this review are the coda packs. Makes s big difference..
Good point I need to make a video dedicated to Coda Packs at some point.
Mann, Listen!
I had just started using Notion about 3-weeks ago based on my timeless goal of "finding the perfect note taking app" - I'm coming from Evernote, OneNote, TreeDBNotes, WinOrganizer etc...
Using notion I was able to actually prototype an application I've been meaning to write for myself for over a year now (I'm a .NET developer by profession), and was absolutely satisfied, with seeing my idea coming to fruition (in Notion), so I've been pretty impressed and happy using Notion.
My brother-in-law came over for Thanksgivings, and as always we were talking about (his passion), stock trading. He was showing me his method of researching stocks, and he had pulled out a batch of hand written notes.
I immediately mentioned he should be using Notion for working with his data!
We sat down and I started teaching him how to translate his written tables into Notion databases.
We got down to a requirement of his where he uses 3-financial pages to study a stock's performance - I created an additional linked table that would hold the 3-related URL fields.
Since he was using 3-related pages for his research, it began to become a chore to copy/paste in 3 separate URLs for each stock symbol - he started asking if there as a way to generate those URLs based on the stock symbol.
Ultimately within Notion, the short answer was NO, Notion doesn't allow formulas to generate URLs, AND there also isn't a way for the formula generated URL text to be placed into the URL fields...
Then just TODAY, this video came across my dashboard - again MANN, LISTEN!
I immediately text my brother-in-law "There's a NEW Sheriff in town - CODA!.."
I'm working with Coda now, and it FEELS AND LOOKS SO MUCH MORE PROFESSIONAL, when comparing the two applications side-by-side!
Also looking at all the available, FREE add-ons - including __retrieving Stock information based on stock symbols__, and, additionally watching some of the training videos, my socks were blown off!
TLDR, I will be immediately switching from Notion to Coda - it has the power I need, and as a software developer by profession, Coda - has the additional abilities and features I absolutely appreciate - I will be going Pro pronto!
Hey thanks so much for leaving a detailed comment about your experience. I’m glad you came across Coda, it sounds like it will be a perfect fit for your use cases!
Also happy thanksgiving. I’m grateful that my channel helped you. :)
@@ProductiveDude Please all the thanks goes to you, and the time and effort you put into this channel!
For the past couple off weeks, I've been watching (and recommending) your channel, pretty much daily!
I'm coming in late to this party with this new generation of note taking apps (I'm still waiting to see what Tana is going to bring to the table - if it turns out to be as good as this, I'll be surprised!)
I'm so glad you made this comparison, since Coda was completely OFF my radar - PROPS to you for all your wonderful posts and videos!
@@williambell4591 Sure, glad they’re helping.
Another note taking app that’s on my radar lately is Mem. I want to check it out soon. Maybe you would benefit from checking it out if you’re trying out many note taking apps.
All the best!
@@williambell4591 Hi William, I'm currently in the same position as you. What note-taking are you using today? Coda?
Excellent comparison. I've made some of those myself comparing Coda and Notion to other great applications.
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for this. Seems like 'learning curve' and 'ease of use' are the same thing
Great video. I'd like to add that although Notion is easier to pick up, if you know you want to use coda eventually then start with Coda as the skills do not transfer.
I’d say my skills transferred alright. If you understand the concept of Notion; Linking data, Formulas, etc.
The only difference is, when you start using Coda you can do more and there’s a slightly different way to go about it.
The syntax for the formulas is different, the names of things are different, but that’s about it. Coda just has a lot of extra features that Notion doesn’t.
Edit:
I’d also like too add that Coda uses a different document structure. In Notion every database row you add gets a page automatically this is the only option. In coda you can’t create a document as a page, however, they do have a notes column that you can add to enter any notes you have and when you associate a table to it you’re able to see the table by clicking on a specific type of column called “canvas”.
The trophies awarded seem rather arbitrary, but this does seem a good overview. How about an updated video with the current state of play (features) between them?
The trophies are totally subjective and the categories are subjective as well so it won’t make sense to every user. I’ve considered doing an update! I’m going to wait a bit longer though.
@@ProductiveDude I would also love to see an update given: a) changes in the two apps in the last 10 months. and b) you've now spent a whole lot of time using Coda, so you know it more deeply and fully.
I never in my entire life thought I’d ever pay a subscription for a note taking app, then I discovered Notion.
It’s more than just notes :)
Very useful vedio, i just wana thank you for your fair comparison, however, i am searching for learning source to know more about coda, i just found a coda channed in reedit & documentation source in coda platform,
I went for paid doc maker plan, i appreciate their efforts in the platform
I have 4 question
1 can you help with more sources to learn and discuss more about coda?
2 can you explain why they are less popular and the community expantion is still below avg and i think less users?
3 did you hear any service corruption or data lost?
4 can i find a way for backup my data in another source, so i can save my efforts and time?
Thanks
Very useful, thank you!
Great! Useful, thoughtful, condensed, organized. Bravo 👏 .
What do you recommend as a resource to learn Coda? I’m looking for a comprehensive logical (hierarchical) map of all of the parts/objects in Coda and how they interrelate. Thx.
Our channel has a few videos. I think coda themselves have some coda videos as well. I plan on making more when I get some time.
Hey Carter... another interesting video.
What about Synced Blocks. Extremely useful feature of Notion that Coda does not provide. Possibly puts Notion well in front on document creation.
Synced blocks are great. I made a few videos about them.
I only really use the feature for one thing though… in page menus, these are aesthetically pleasing, but they don’t really improve Notion that much outside of that. At least I don’t think they do… what have you built with synced blocks?
Amazing video dude. you went in. very very helpful, i wish youtube let us tip directly on the site. i owe you a coffee!
You CAN tip on site. :)
There should be a 'super thanks' button below the video.
Tips aren't expected, but they are certainly appreciated.
Glad you enjoyed this.
Outstanding comparison!
Thank you!
Thanks for this comparison video! I'm currently searching for a way of managing schedules for large groups and multiple events and was wondering what tool and you'd think of this specific topic. I estimate the tables to become as large as thousands and I'd like to have a mobile use as well. Perhaps have you already come into contact in such a problem and solution? Thanks!
Great, in-depth comparison, but I don't agree with you on pricing. The pricing forces the function of the app to be more static and top down, rather than a collective wiki. Coda comes off more like Confluence, which has more hurdles to create and publish documents, where Notion feels like a much more open system, such as Google Docs, but with much better organization.
Good point! Thanks for your comment.
Great video thank you. Which app is faster? Notion feels slow sometimes
Notion is still probably quicker and more lightweight than Coda.
Notion is a simple and nimble, no-code doc editor with an emphasis on writing.
Coda is Notion but with more features and a focus on using your data in more ways than you can in Notion. It’s slower because of that though from my experience.
Not only slower in terms of load speeds but also in terms of document creation… that could be because I’m a beginner though I guess… haha
Thanks for fast reply and your answer. Cheers from Sweden
Hey could I put in a request for a beginner’s tutorial for Coda? Or a comprehensive guide? I’ll take anything.
Thanks so much for this informative video. I just stumbled across Coda and signed up for it. Being in academia I'm eligible for an 80% discount. I've played with Notion for a bit and then with Taskade. What's your verdict when it comes to Taskade and Coda? Bearing in mind that I find all them with a learning curve but I'll figure it out eventually.
Taskade is a pretty sweet application! I don’t currently use Taskade but I’m going to take a look at it again soon. They have some cool features for teams. I made a video comparing it to Notion a while back.
It works really well for project management. Taskade is a bit easier than Coda to pick up on from what I remember.
Coda is great, you can do so many cool things with it. However, they need to work on the overall performance of the phone app.
So which one makes it possible and even as easy as Apple reminder for creating recurring tasks?
Say, once "Done" is checked, the next task due can be automatically added.
Hey Fuzzy, I just created this in Coda.
Here's a loom video where I walk through it:
www.loom.com/share/9f1f5ee2950a412d8b3aa8bab3d70f11
Let me know what you think!
You can get the template here:
coda.io/@carter-surach/recurring-tasks
Coda is a note taker?
Thank you!
How about security? I assume Coda wins that?
I'm about to start using either Notion or Coda, so your videos are very helpful, especially being able to follow the building of an example live (the Meal Planner)! Thanks for that.
So, starting from scratch, would you advise using Coda rather than Notion? I'm torn ! ;)
The Notion Community is a real plus (to learn, to exchange, ...).
And I have the impression that the structuring of documents is better in Notion (for the ease to move elements or to nest them)?
I think I'll try to build some test documents (docs and databases) in both Notion and Coda, to see by myself the differences in use.
It depends on your preference. Coda can do way more, if you’re tech savvy I’d go with Coda. If your willing to learn I’d go with Coda. The formulas are way easier to use and way more powerful.
However, if you want a simple app that’s much easier to learn and your focus is more on writing than databases, I’d recommend Notion.
The meal planner I built for instance is a lot better in Coda but I’d rather write in Notion.
They both do some pretty cool things.
@@ProductiveDude Thank you for your helpful advice! I think I'll just test and see how I "feel" about them, both by building some documents and bases. Because comparing rationally, both have their advantages and disadvantages.
My use is twofold, for writing (creative + freelancing, as that is my job!) and for freelancing (managing projects and data). I love writing, but I also love tech, and... databases ;D
I do a lot of data management (references, lists, tasks,...). I used to use (and love) Airtable, but I'm thinking about leaving it for a more complete and universal tool.
@@gs_f Notion wins for writing, coda for managing projects and data. However you can write in coda, but doing complex data/app style work in notion can be simply impossible due to lack of features, depending on your goals. I agree you should try both out - build out some of the workflows you will be using in each and then make a decision because it will take a lot of time to become proficient in either one so you don't want to be switching later on.
We use coda for our business and have custom documents that handle everything from hr, financials, sales, project management, contract generation, and other miscellaneous things. I tried out both notion and coda about a year and a half ago and coda was clearly the only choice given our needs. Notion, at least at that time, was more of a replacement for things like Evernote.
@@osafoca Thank you very much for this thorough and very interesting review. I'm testing both, but I'm about to go deeper into Coda rather than Notion, despite some advantages like the large Notion community, tutorials, and other details, as the export capabilities (bad experience to get out of Evernote !). I guess none of them are perfect!
call me with either of them split time from dates. Unusable until then. Excellent review. Its a swift changing landscape. For me coda tech support was non-existent which is why I quit it.
Thanks for sharing
Thank you very much for this video! It's super helpful. I have a concern with all of these apps that nobody is talking about. Is the data secure or can it be hacked? Is there a way to set up a double-step verification or something like that? I understand none of them has end-to-end encryption, so why aren't we all worried about cyber security? I would appreciate any insight or video on this topic
Hey Ana, this is certainly something to consider when choosing an application.
Here are Coda's security terms. They seem pretty good: coda.io/trust/security
Here are Notion's security terms. They also seem good in terms of encryption: www.notion.so/security
@@ProductiveDude THANK YOUU for always replying to my comments! I will take a look at these.
@@analizchiban3108 No problem, it's my pleasure Ana!
Hi, I want to know in your opinion, I have a company of 50 people, and I want to build a knowledge base, and build some SOP and guidelines for staff to browse, which is the better option , CODA or NOTION. I am not that tech savvy
Coda has more functionality and automation, however, Notion is more streamlined and straightforward.
If you want help, shoot me and email. We could jump on a 15 minute call to discuss your needs in depth.
I might be able to help build something for you guys.
My email:
carter@greenlinemediasolutions.com
Do you know if we must pay a plan for each workspace created?
Check their pricing page. I don’t know for sure what you mean.
Is any of both good to keep critical data? say receipts or sensitive info?
Notion’s Security Page:
www.notion.so/help/security-and-privacy
Coda’s Security Page:
help.coda.io/en/articles/5557780-overview-of-security-features
@@ProductiveDude What worries me is integrity, in the SLA both avoid any resposibility derived from data loss/corruption, I undestand both take measures to keep data safe & secure, it's just that in the remote, probably unexistent case the data is lost somehow, they don't take any resposibility...
Just asking Productive Dude, is this video sponsered from Coda?
He says in the video that he thinks Notion is the better choice for most users; and that Notion still has 80% of the features that Code has and that the majority of users won't need those other 20%, and will prefer the faster learning curve and ease of use of Notion. So it seems like an unfair cheap shot to imply that he got paid by Coda. If he did, he wouldn't say that most users should choose Notion.
coda
Coda cannot sync with Readwise yet
Readwise looks great! Sad that Coda doesn’t integrate with them yet - but if you want the Coda features you can just import Readwise to Notion then convert your Notion pages into a Coda workspace in under 1 minute. Just use the link in my pinned comment to see how you can do that.
I think you could get a lot out of Coda with your Readwise data. Use the Graph or Word Cloud feature in Coda, it could be pretty cool.
In this example you’d kind of be using Notion as the toll booth between Readwise and Coda.
Just an idea of course, let me know what you think… 💭🤔
Chances Notion buys out Coda soon?
I haven’t heard anything about that.
Notion has been buying other software companies though…
bro, turn on dark mode holy fuck...
Coda
Nois
Thanks
This video sponsored by Coda.
He says in the video that he thinks Notion is the better choice for most users; and that Notion still has 80% of the features that Code has and that the majority of users won't need those other 20%, and will prefer the faster learning curve and ease of use of Notion. So it seems like an unfair cheap shot to imply that he got paid by Coda. If he did, he wouldn't say that most users should choose Notion.