Its not really something missed.. more of a fun fact. If you really want to turn some small central American countries into launch sites with big investments be warned... small countries will become irresistible to hostile ai factions. They are hard to defend because smol, and usually not well developed.
good video ! thanks for the link maybe you could make a follow up on the techtree and talk about what to research to build functioning (battle-)ships and if you know about that, it would be interesting to understand how the heat works I mean how much heat is generated by ships and what best to use to counter overheating
This was great! Hope you make a habs and orbitals guide too. I have no idea what the other orbitals do other than LEO. Also how to defend orbitals, and some of the more niche habs.
@@PhotonwindGaming not sure if this is something you’d be interested in, but I’m having a hard time optimizing getting India as quickly as possible. When it comes to influencing neighboring states, is it the total land border, population, something else that’s important? It’s easy to tell it’s important when trying to get America, but it’s less clear which is more important when you try to go after India or Chine.
@@RobertR19 I'm unsure the exact values used but it lists it as "control points in neighbours" , so I'm assuming it's the number of controlled neighbouring control points. MAYBE also their value, so gdp of those points. But.. Again unsure specifically. I might try figure this out better. Not sure if this helos
Fantastic Video and new sub. Great tips for beginners and people with a play through under their belt. There is so much resource and to better focus your attention your pointers are helpful to keep you on the right track. Again there are so many tracks, mostly leading to engines lol Hope you make more videos as you go. Thanks for your help
Now imagine my face when I realized I just had to zoom out of Earth for the button to build a satellite appear. My biggest difficult now is to manage my boost, even with full control over the US it's far from enough.
To maximise your tech tree options, do a little math so you know when it is impossible for another faction to pip you to being the lead. As soon as that becomes apparent then you can pull all your tech from that research and put it into another where you can can catch up the lead, or sink it into the lower section for internal engineer works. The AI has to put its research into something so don't worry about all the factions suddenly pulling out as you have because they can't catch you. This is also how the AI seems to operate, where it will consistently monitor the options and drop tech to switch focus in order to dominate a tech. I successfully dominated 2 of the 3 research options for years concentrating on denying factions that I opposed.
just getting into the game, i choose the easy way ruling France to absorb my neighbors, do i need to maxout there mission control and build their own spaceprogram before absorbing them? or is it like the max. mission control for a region is kept and i can build it after absorbtion regardless?
I can't remember the exact thing now but if you absorb them then I thibk it will average out. Won't have to start a new space program if you have in the one.
@@PhotonwindGaming in the meantime i stumbled into the answer, MC is capped per Region (not country) each one has slightly different number, if absorbing a country before build its max capacity, it is not a loss at all, as absorbing a country is absorbing their region(s) which have their already or non installed MC, it is shown in the nation overview region tab, where you also see claims.. so the answer is there is no loss, but building it before absorbing might be faster, as it is build everywhere at the same time
but now i have a different thing, what about space program which led to boost, once finished the lets say non existent space program you will get a space launch facility harbor whatever called, and now you put invest into to get boost out.. here is the thing, with all my new knowledge and the stuff i learned from your actual Initiative play, i just restart the game as humanity and concentrate on Kasachstan and Russia region, in 2026 i have not merged them together, but putting all invest into Kasachstan spaceboost since day one, the facility shows now an yearly boost arround 60, could it be, that everytime you finish the 2 points invest, the output overall increase like enhance their efficiency?
@@stadthaus.7266Nice! Definitely doable, especially in that circumstance. RNG is definitely a factor! Just means you probably had to wait a bit longer..not a problem if everyone else has to too
it depends heavily on what kind of resources you get on your moon: one playthrough i had two sites on the moon that both had over 12 fissile base income the very next playthrough the highest fissile location was a 2,4 with other locations below 1 with those resources, spending boost to build on the moon is pretty much a net loss of boost usage in the immediate term. best to stockpile and spend on a decent Mars mining location
While game dosent explain it at any point there is actually significant research bonus for contributing to multiple projects So you should contribute at last one dot to each
@@PhotonwindGaming Yes put your cursor on research points icon on the top bar and you will be capable to see from where your research points are coming from Its called "research distribution bonus"
@@janus8003 thank you! That keloed me find more info. looking onto it seems to be a 5% thing for additional research? Definitely Might be good overall but not in the early game I think to rush to space or get individual techs. Wouldn't mind seeing a more detailed look at that from someone
@@PhotonwindGaming I didn't figure out precise math behind this bonus But from what I have observed getting one dot to each project and and three to one that you want to focus on will allow you to finish it sooner and increas your chance to became largest contributor in comparison to situation where you would contribute all your reasearch points to just one project But its just my causual observation I didnt made many experiments on the subject so I could be wrong Additionally from what I heard recently from one of TH-cam guids chance of unlocking engeenering projects related to reasearched technology is increased depending on how many points you have contributed to it So it would be additional reason to split reaserches (but i'm not sure whether it is true either) Overly game is pretty terrible at providing essential informations to the player (but considering its in early access stage still that much could be forgiven)
Yes! someone else pointed this out. Didn't know about it! But looking onto it it's a 5% thing for additional research. Might be good overall but not in the early game I think to rush to space. Wouldn't mind seeing a more detailed look at that from someone
@@PhotonwindGaming If you have points in all research projects you get a bonus, which can be massive depending how you stack it. You can see this bonus in the list for reearch. Cant remember what its called...
Hopefully this helps people struggling to get space mining. Let me know if i missed anything or you think this isnt right!
Its not really something missed.. more of a fun fact. If you really want to turn some small central American countries into launch sites with big investments be warned... small countries will become irresistible to hostile ai factions. They are hard to defend because smol, and usually not well developed.
@@Ethan-iv8fs very true.. If its easy to get, it's easy to lose. Gotta build up that gdp
@@PhotonwindGaming yes and that is often not worth it (maybe?). Feels like unifying countries later on would be more cost effective (maybe?)
@@Ethan-iv8fs yeah I haven't quite figured out that myself. Probably could go many ways
@@PhotonwindGaming can we get an indepth guide to North Korea only run?
Thx for the guide man. This is sort of a game thats realy need this. I also liked choces that you made in video editing. Also cheers for that
Thanks so much! Much appreciated
good video !
thanks for the link
maybe you could make a follow up on the techtree and talk about what to research to build functioning (battle-)ships
and if you know about that, it would be interesting to understand how the heat works
I mean how much heat is generated by ships and what best to use to counter overheating
Thank you!
Definitely something I'm thinking about doing!
This was great! Hope you make a habs and orbitals guide too. I have no idea what the other orbitals do other than LEO. Also how to defend orbitals, and some of the more niche habs.
Thank you! I'll definitely consider doing something about the habs. There's a lot to them!..And everything in the game lol
@@PhotonwindGaming not sure if this is something you’d be interested in, but I’m having a hard time optimizing getting India as quickly as possible. When it comes to influencing neighboring states, is it the total land border, population, something else that’s important? It’s easy to tell it’s important when trying to get America, but it’s less clear which is more important when you try to go after India or Chine.
@@RobertR19 I'm unsure the exact values used but it lists it as "control points in neighbours" , so I'm assuming it's the number of controlled neighbouring control points. MAYBE also their value, so gdp of those points. But.. Again unsure specifically. I might try figure this out better. Not sure if this helos
@@PhotonwindGaming thank you. We are all learning together, lol.
I appreciate this video more than I can express.
This made my day
I love this. I have already learned all this the hard way but I know new players will benefit.
Thank you! The hard way is at least sometimes satisfying. Hope it helps someone too.
@@PhotonwindGaming yes it is! I am now trying to learn how to not let the world fall into choas from servants and ayyylmaoos
Fantastic Video and new sub. Great tips for beginners and people with a play through under their belt. There is so much resource and to better focus your attention your pointers are helpful to keep you on the right track. Again there are so many tracks, mostly leading to engines lol Hope you make more videos as you go. Thanks for your help
Thanks so much for the lovely comment and sub! I'll definitely be working on further videos on later techs and ships etc when I get time. Thank you!
Thank you, excellent technical details VT
Appreciate it, thank you!
thanks for the guide. subbed
Thank you!
Now imagine my face when I realized I just had to zoom out of Earth for the button to build a satellite appear.
My biggest difficult now is to manage my boost, even with full control over the US it's far from enough.
Yeah... These things don't get explained by the game well. Hopefully some of these things help though!
To maximise your tech tree options, do a little math so you know when it is impossible for another faction to pip you to being the lead. As soon as that becomes apparent then you can pull all your tech from that research and put it into another where you can can catch up the lead, or sink it into the lower section for internal engineer works. The AI has to put its research into something so don't worry about all the factions suddenly pulling out as you have because they can't catch you. This is also how the AI seems to operate, where it will consistently monitor the options and drop tech to switch focus in order to dominate a tech. I successfully dominated 2 of the 3 research options for years concentrating on denying factions that I opposed.
just getting into the game, i choose the easy way ruling France to absorb my neighbors, do i need to maxout there mission control and build their own spaceprogram before absorbing them? or is it like the max. mission control for a region is kept and i can build it after absorbtion regardless?
I can't remember the exact thing now but if you absorb them then I thibk it will average out. Won't have to start a new space program if you have in the one.
@@PhotonwindGaming in the meantime i stumbled into the answer, MC is capped per Region (not country) each one has slightly different number, if absorbing a country before build its max capacity, it is not a loss at all, as absorbing a country is absorbing their region(s) which have their already or non installed MC, it is shown in the nation overview region tab, where you also see claims.. so the answer is there is no loss, but building it before absorbing might be faster, as it is build everywhere at the same time
but now i have a different thing, what about space program which led to boost, once finished the lets say non existent space program you will get a space launch facility harbor whatever called, and now you put invest into to get boost out.. here is the thing, with all my new knowledge and the stuff i learned from your actual Initiative play, i just restart the game as humanity and concentrate on Kasachstan and Russia region, in 2026 i have not merged them together, but putting all invest into Kasachstan spaceboost since day one, the facility shows now an yearly boost arround 60, could it be, that everytime you finish the 2 points invest, the output overall increase like enhance their efficiency?
Glad you got the answer and shared!
So to get more boost investment you need the various research that improves investment. Or modules in space station that improve boost
Can you do one on just anti Zeno stuff
Good idea. I'll see what I can do!
This online tech tree tool looks AMAZING but the link is dead :( Does this exist in another form currently? The in game one is basically impossible.
tech tree link is broken
Thanks for pointing this out. I'll look into it
Seems to be working
I had to restart because stupid AI picked Mission to Mars and Space Mining techs before we even had Mission to the Moon...
That's an annoying setback.
@@PhotonwindGaming Ya, you'd think Elon Musk was pulling the strings...
I skiped the moon completely in my last and current run. The spots were just too bad
Started with Mars. Worked great.
@@stadthaus.7266Nice! Definitely doable, especially in that circumstance. RNG is definitely a factor! Just means you probably had to wait a bit longer..not a problem if everyone else has to too
Sounds like the perfect stage for a Martian vs Earthling scenario!
Moon get the uranium, Mars get the gold. Ignore any moon stuff that doesnt have much uranium.. Just focus on taking all of mars
it depends heavily on what kind of resources you get on your moon:
one playthrough i had two sites on the moon that both had over 12 fissile base income
the very next playthrough the highest fissile location was a 2,4 with other locations below 1
with those resources, spending boost to build on the moon is pretty much a net loss of boost usage in the immediate term. best to stockpile and spend on a decent Mars mining location
While game dosent explain it at any point there is actually significant research bonus for contributing to multiple projects So you should contribute at last one dot to each
A bonus not just for contributing the most to a project?
@@PhotonwindGaming Yes put your cursor on research points icon on the top bar and you will be capable to see from where your research points are coming from Its called "research distribution bonus"
@@janus8003 thank you! That keloed me find more info. looking onto it seems to be a 5% thing for additional research? Definitely Might be good overall but not in the early game I think to rush to space or get individual techs. Wouldn't mind seeing a more detailed look at that from someone
@@PhotonwindGaming I didn't figure out precise math behind this bonus But from what I have observed getting one dot to each project and and three to one that you want to focus on will allow you to finish it sooner and increas your chance to became largest contributor in comparison to situation where you would contribute all your reasearch points to just one project But its just my causual observation I didnt made many experiments on the subject so I could be wrong Additionally from what I heard recently from one of TH-cam guids chance of unlocking engeenering projects related to reasearched technology is increased depending on how many points you have contributed to it So it would be additional reason to split reaserches (but i'm not sure whether it is true either) Overly game is pretty terrible at providing essential informations to the player (but considering its in early access stage still that much could be forgiven)
i think you get a bonuis if you spread your tech research.
Yes! someone else pointed this out. Didn't know about it! But looking onto it it's a 5% thing for additional research. Might be good overall but not in the early game I think to rush to space. Wouldn't mind seeing a more detailed look at that from someone
@@PhotonwindGaming If you have points in all research projects you get a bonus, which can be massive depending how you stack it. You can see this bonus in the list for reearch. Cant remember what its called...