Sergei Zagny. Sonata. - Daniil Pilchen, piano. (Audio & Score)

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  • 00:00 Sonata
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    Sonata, piano, 1990. - Daniil Pilchen, piano. Yamaha Artist Services, Moscow, 20.02.2017. Recording: Alexey Sysoev. Editing: Alexey Sysoev, Sergei Zagny. Special thanks: Elsana Gabaraeva.
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    The music scores of Sergei Zagny:
    imslp.org/wiki/Category:Zagny...

ความคิดเห็น • 45

  • @oscargill423
    @oscargill423 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    The composer your composition teacher doesn't want you to know about

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why? Aren't composition teachers typically so incompetent as to love this kind of garbage and want to praise it for its pseudo-intellectual genius?

    • @oscargill423
      @oscargill423 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Whatismusic123 _sighhhh_ Hello again, what would you like to argue about today?

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oscargill423 illiterate

  • @lubiezniczek666
    @lubiezniczek666 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Reminds me of Henryk Mikołaj Górecki - "holy/eastern minimalism" but not so "holy" in this case. The strength of this piece lies in the repetitions and the length. I would prefere that it was ironic about the tonal gestures, however without the irony the focus is brought to marginal nuances like little changes of melodic figures and rythm, and the harmonic resonance (like in Górecki's string quartets). It's an example of a craftsmanship exploiting a verry thin border between boredom and conventional gestures - that's what seems still fresh and hard to master. Also it must be very impactful when performed live in a good concerthall.

  • @Iocun
    @Iocun 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow, this is awesome!

  • @christophedevos3760
    @christophedevos3760 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It seems vexatiously vacillating between Glass, Feldman, Cage and Satie. Interesting that triads are used but that they don't sound very pleasing or traditional. Thanks for sharing.

  • @VLuchansky
    @VLuchansky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Beautiful

  • @michelprezman51
    @michelprezman51 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Je ne sais si il faut rire ou pleurer.

  • @anfalagu
    @anfalagu หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesante ☺️

  • @Ari-je3zu
    @Ari-je3zu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing work, simple but creative. Without ostentation and very elegante.

  • @hb3393
    @hb3393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant piece, fantastically played

  • @ario2264
    @ario2264 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why have I never heard of Sergei Zagny before?

    • @odeholon4590
      @odeholon4590 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Потому, что это бред сумасшедшего

    • @wernherwilhelmson7688
      @wernherwilhelmson7688 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@odeholon4590 А какая музыка не "бред сумасшедшего"?

    • @baldrbraa
      @baldrbraa 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Leave it to the Russians to casually plumb the extremes of musical philosophy.

  • @borisaxelrod7411
    @borisaxelrod7411 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Переставьте все эти кусочки в любом порядке, ничего от этого не изменится. Вы даже разницы не заметите😂

  • @martinlavagnino
    @martinlavagnino หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What?

  • @nikolaykostirev7777
    @nikolaykostirev7777 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    полуфабрикат,больше похоже на какието упражнения

  • @Ricardo7250
    @Ricardo7250 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There are some cool notations, but I feel like there are so many cracks in the unity of the piece. Plenty of moments where a long rest is followed by something entirely different from before, which makes it feel like this is not 1 piece but a bunch of random miniatures grouped together. Feels unfinished

  • @tastenschlager1673
    @tastenschlager1673 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Фамилия композитора очень соответствует произведённому им "продукту".Это загнивание мозгов,а не музыка.И это говорит не какой- нибудь невежда,а человек,любящий музыку Веберна,Штокгаузена,Лигети,Крамба итд.

    • @gabriel77196
      @gabriel77196 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So this wasn't said by some ignorant person, but it was definitely said by someone with their head up their ass

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're still an "ignoramus" you just like random noise.

  • @1964ALCOZER
    @1964ALCOZER หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Ma sarebbe musica o è una presa in giro?
    Boh incommentabile

    • @uigliam
      @uigliam หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's simple.. 🙄NARCISSISM

  • @NickCarlozzi
    @NickCarlozzi 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don’t know… I think it’s genius. The neo-baroque x minimalism thing going on is pretty cool. Love the never-ending sequences. Love the rhythmic processes. Love the Ligeti-esque use of triads in in the slow movements. You’ve probably gotta be a fan of minimalism to enjoy this lol, but I am such a fan. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @uigliam
    @uigliam หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Music Writer.
    He knows what he likes, he discovers and steals sound combinations and passages from others, extracting them from various composers.
    He is very interested in graphics.
    He wants to enchant without going into the organization, even minimal, of a tangible musical phrase or form. In reality he never dares.
    He dares not do anything...
    Only effect.
    A Catalog Of Effects that can only intrigue those who are not musicians.

  • @uigliam
    @uigliam หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    (n°1) It is the charm of harmonic intervals that affects creativity... (this composer must be a teenager or young man).
    It happens to students, listening to the chord progressions typical of certain tonal music (Corelli, Vivaldi...) and playing them on the piano several times to try to understand where this... invincible Beauty comes from.
    This work is endearing. But it's not art.

    • @herbertsherbert7378
      @herbertsherbert7378 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Can I ask you to expand on that last statement? (also, just for background/context he was 30 when this was written and was completing postgraduate studies at the Tchaikovsky State Conservatory, so not exactly a novice)
      Edit: I've just reread that comment, I didn't mean for it to come across so brusque 😂

    • @uigliam
      @uigliam หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@herbertsherbert7378 🙂Don't worry. You weren't abrupt./... It's complicated for me to communicate here, with precision. (I'm Italian, I'm translating every post I read from English and it takes a long time to respond...🙄 It's a lot of work! Sorry)

    • @gabriel77196
      @gabriel77196 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Define art

    • @uigliam
      @uigliam หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gabriel77196 It's my opinion.
      Art can be defined as a particular intellectual development that resists over time. It is not only effectism, linked to the contingencies of a discipline: for example to what is unusual or surprising or to excessive self-referentialism. Mistaking the planning, the elegant graphics, the form for the essence of an art is not correct: these are just incidental aspects.
      You can be a good composer but not an artist.
      /But that's just my thought.

    • @linguistaomar8516
      @linguistaomar8516 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      naïve art is still art

  • @Whatismusic123
    @Whatismusic123 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Random noise. This is not music.

  • @onionlipadua
    @onionlipadua หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I just dont get why he get this much hate

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because he can't write music? Isn't it obvious? This is just a bunch of noise.

    • @onionlipadua
      @onionlipadua 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Whatismusic123We have already got over that noise-music boundry in 60s and the society paved the way for modernism fortunately. You cannot just say that this is just some bunch of noise by only referancing to academic techniques and how they were handled. The pieces he composed still will be recieved by other people, it will be liked and disliked anyway. Rather than an analysis or an aesthetic approach, one should be set in stone to understand what the piece actually means. This happens in Dave Brubeck's pieces as well as they are quite basic in technique yet play significant roles to get one learned some theoric content, or at least facilitate the process on going. This is probably what happens here as well, we are living in a time where music is not only made for listening.

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@onionlipadua he is no different. This is just noise. Not music.

    • @onionlipadua
      @onionlipadua ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Whatismusic123 You do not seem to have enough acknowledgement on music apparently as you're insisting on its musicality rather than speaking with facts whatsoever.

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 2 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@onionlipadua you pride yourself into the fact that you enjoy noise that anyone of the right mind wouldn't. I gain nothing from arguing with you. Just knownthat you're wrong and that this is just random noise puzzled together using pseudo-scientific principles.