I Investigate the Claims of a Lost Civilization in the United States- Sage Wall, Montana
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The Sage Wall of Montana is an ancient structure. But is it man-made, or just a geologic phenomenon? It was recently unearthed in the mountains of Montana, and is quickly becoming a worldwide mystery, with personalities like Joe Rogan weighing in. The question everyone is asking is, is this natural, or manmade? What do you think? #ancientdiscoveries #jre #joerogan #adventure #exploration #history #sagewall
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Hey friends, as always, thank you for watching. This was a different outing than usual, but I wanted to see what it was all about. If you'd like to visit the Sage Wall yourself, here's a link to their website sagemountain.org/tours/ Due to high demand, you may expect a delay in email response time from them
From DILLON MT - it is a natural formation caused by a dike.
Did you check the other site for magnetics
Thank you for making this episode. I visited the Sage wall in last September and met Chris in person. It still baffles me that if it’s natural, or man made, or the combination. If the wall was made by human interference more than 12000 years ago for marking an astronomical phenomenon such as solstices or equinoxes, the alignment now would be a bit different from then due to precession.
WTH is all the dead trees at 11:11 ?
natural
Shout-out to the land owners for letting people come see their interesting rock formation. It's definitely nice to be able have that be seen by anyone interested.
I'm sure they are enjoying the huge cash influx they are receiving after claiming some random rocks were manmade... lol
Are you kidding? they charge money /admission to see this 'ancient rock wall'...Its a business. ..why do you think the new landowners created this narrative.
As a cybersecurity professional I can confirm that this is not a firewall.
😂😂😂😂
But it is a wall that could protect you from fire for a long period of time.
I would argue this wall is definitely fireproof.
Thanks for confirming I can now cross strange rock formation off my list of things that are not definitely not this elusive firewall! Process of elimination.
Alright good work 👍
Take it off the list boys 🗣️
Imagine having enough land you stumble upon formations you didn't know where there until years later 🤤
There's ranches in the U.S. that cover hundreds of thousands of acres. Sometimes it hard to imagine how big that is until you say a ranch is 30 miles (or more) on each side.
@@stevensmothers3779 Definitely! I'm an Okie, the Drummond's own Oklahoma's largest ranch at 400k+ acres
@@Jmccalmont "... and seldom was heard... a discouraging word... and the skies are not cloudy all day." Something like that anyways. You know, enough land where the deer and the antelope can play like the song says, and you get to go out and watch them.
@@willoughby1888 where the deer and antelope play, where seldom is heard a discouraging word for what can a buffalo say...?
Haha right? The fact it was covered in deadfall from trees killed by pine beetles probably helped prevent them from finding it for so long
As a natural stone wall builder, the sage wall looks exactly how we buil retaining walls. Face of presentation smooth and straight. Backside gets filled in so we pay no mind to how it looks. This site has been on my radar for awhile 👌
The geologists who say otherwise are literally judging from pictures. This shares similarities with other megalithic walls around the world like Sacsayhuaman in Peru.
That's exactly what I was thinking. If I was going to do a flat step on a hill with a stone retainer, that's exactly how I would do it.
Big though, impressively big.
If you align the seams as with the blocks here, you're not a very good wall builder.
@dubselectorr345 I've been there, too. Not at all the same. If you think it's "too straight", you don't have much experience with jointed granite. You don't believe the geologists know what they are talking about? Who would you believe; only other amateurs who say it's man-made?
@dat2ra yeah, walls that have stood for tens of thousands of years aren't good walls.
Well, I am a retired automotive Service Technician & I don't have a professional opinion.
Haha
Your opinion is more real than the “professionals” who strait up lie or really believe their hard R excuses.
@@ChezMclegend These days there are far more hard L excuses.
Refreshing
We are selling 6 acres with a n newly remodeled 4-5 bedroom between devil's head and pike's peak I am too old but the young people?? Surrounded by national forest , a smart non profit could look for those vacationing big foots.
I’m a lumberjack and in my opinion the wall is definitely made of rocks, or more precisely stones or boulders.
I love this comment.
@@dubselectorr345 😁
This is eye-opening
@@yeahjoshb9396 👀
Omg they have a rope to protect ROCK. It's natural as Fk. Nothing to see here.
Watching this video as a professional geologist I would say the Sage Wall is a natural dike intruded along a linear fracture in older rock. One should approach this not by trying to prove it is a wall but trying to prove it is not a dike. Igneous rock such as granite typically include subtle features such as mineralization bands, smaller dikes, etc. If any of these features traverse from one block to another then it strongly suggests the rocks are not stacked but in situ. The knobs are clearly darker rock and are likely pieces of the original older more mafic rock that the granite intruded into and incorporated as part of the granitic melt. They are referred to as xenoliths. Differential weathering gives them relief. The potholes are natural throughout granitic terrane. Large ones are called tanks on topos. Water ponds in small depressions and eventually breaks down the feldspars in the rock weathering them to clay.
You explained it well thanks.
100%...and that is speaking as a "geology minor" in college...someone who has been a rock climber since 1968 (professionally since the 80s)...and someone that specialized in vernacular folk architecture including cyclopean stone work and other lithic replication. This is a natural formation...plane and simple, which is not to say it does not hold significant importance to past indigenous cultures yet sadly is now in private ownership. Thankfully the current owners display a level of respect many do not have...
Yeah...what he said.
my thoughts exactly! Even the features alluted to be "modified" are really common forms of natural granite weathering. I'm sorry Desert Drifter, but this doesn't pass the sniff test.
While this is obviously a natural igneous dike, we still don't know if or how it has been _used._ Aligning with a solstice would make this natural feature especially attractive to work with. Without the weird dolmens in the area (e.g. "pink vault", "tizer dolmen" and "evergreen dolmen"), it would be easy to dismiss this site as a fortuitous fluke. It is a pity our host didn't visit those; I hope it is not too late.
The "Colorado Forest Beings" channel explores undeniable, seismically fragile constructions in SE Colorado mountains that are visibly maintained, maybe for Ute shaman activity, some even with ceremonial remains under. If anything here is made, it is likely for a similar purpose, and like those will have taken full advantage of natural features, tempting shallow dismissal. People have been in North America for tens of thousands of years, plenty of time for any amount of cultural evolution. Human activity is in no sense extraordinary; it is expected. Shallow dismissal is just laziness.
What I like about Desert Drifter is that he keeps a clear distinction between facts and his imagination (in all his videos).
Showing not only Sage Wall but also several other sites for comparison, is one of the strong points of this episode.
As for the Sage Wall, I think knowing more about the research (non destructive scanning) of what is underneath the earth
behind the wall, and a Lidar image of the wider area would be very helpful in forming an idea about the origin of the wall.
Sadly, this episode skirts the question posed at its outset. The wall itself is _obviously_ a natural igneous dike like others shown, and of course displays features of natural rock. While it is useful to have noted that those features are natural, the presenter does not check carefully for details that would indicate human alterations to the site. We know of many other sites in North America that use often minor alterations to natural features to act as solstice and equinox calendars.
Details of interest would include compass orientations of top-course rocks, and the numerous dolmens in the immediate area. Other commenters have demanded "extraordinary evidence", as if human activity were some kind of "extraordinary claim", but human activity in a place where people have been for tens of thousands of years is about as ordinary as there is. All we need is ordinary evidence, and it is unfortunate that the creator does not examine any.
@@sciptick
I've often speculated that if ones ancient tribe were to desire a giant rock wall, it might be easier for them to simply excavate around a natural dike and modify the existing natural structure.
On the page titled Ancient Connection Collection on the original Montana Megaliths website, I compare features at the Montana Megaliths with known megalithic sites all over the world. Google Julie Ryder Montana Megaliths and take a look at the other 111 megalithic sites one of which is Sage Wall.
@@sciptick exactly, sorry for me as nit a native English speaker i explained it in quite crude half Latin blabla…he just always likes to make stuff up „bcs bcs…“ there is nothing special…and a fridge magnet does not prove anything,,,,kkkk…
@@sciptickHmmmm. What about alignment with the summer and winter equinox? Coincidence?
Another study on the Sage Wall revealed that what appeared to be joints on the front side were not evident on the opposite side. The opposite side was solid where there should’ve been a joint.
There's no joint on the other side cuz joe smoked it.
Meaning thst they are not cut blocks?
I’ve had many people request that I do a video on this from a geologist’s perspective. I’m not sure I need to now. You did a great job! I would take a quite similar approach.
Your excellent City Wall video really did a great job of explaining how these form and was the first thing I thought of when I watched this. Love your channel.
Andrew - while you were testing the metal content of the stone @ 09:23, I noted a slight reddish stain. Was that indicative of a slightly elevated iron content thereby allowing the magnet to 'adhere' in those areas? The lighting seemed to change during your trip while documenting the Sage Wall, so I didn't observe the reddish cast in all areas, but that said, it is an interesting phenomenon.
Lake Superior Provincial Park in Ontario has a great example of the opposite effect. On Agawa Rock Pictographs Trail there is a place where the magmatic intrusion has eroded away leaving the surrounding granite as cliffs on either side of a deep chasm.
I would be so interested in your opinion on this. I love your channel 😊
There is no reasonable doubt an igneous dike is here. At issue is if that is all that is here, or if people have modified the site. We know anyway the knobs and hollows are not evidence for the latter.
I've seen documentaries about other rock wall like formations & was astonished by how man made they looked only to be determined as natural. They were testing the direction of the rocks natural magnetic orientation. They tested a wall that was miles long and absolutely looked man-made to me and determined that it was natural. They determined that the magnetics of every stone of the entire length of the wall was going the same direction which meant that wall has been there in that position for millions of years so it can't be man made. They said if the magnetic directions had been willy-nilly pointing in all different directions it would show that the rocks were gathered from other places and assembeled.
Interesting conclusion.
I thought the rock wall in Texas was man made so much so that I would have bet money on it. Turns out it is natural. Funny what our eyes see and hearts desire plays such a significant role in the analysis.
@@adahy123 That may be the exact one I watched about the magnetic testing. I'm a documentary junkie & watch so many I sometimes don't remember where I get my information from LOL but that sounds like an America Unearthed type of video and I watch a lot of those
But that doesn’t mean they didn’t chisel (or break) the rocks that were there and honed to look better into a formation. Could have been an entryway to something they held high.
my conclusion is.that it was man made like the macchu picchu.
I struggle with mental illnesses and watching videos helps me in a lot of ways. Your videos are very calming to me. I really enjoy the places you go and how you explore. You do a great job narrating and mixing information with your own thoughts and asking for information when you're not sure. Thank you for doing this. I appreciate you and your awesome wife!! Stay safe out there!! 🤓
Yay! Mrs. Desert Drifter! Love it when you go adventuring together. 😊
I agree, she adds a balance to the videos. More narration from her, please.
Now! Give her back the magnet you simply moved in on and began checking things out! 😊
I'm not a geologist, but I've explored Nevada for half a century now. My guess, based upon what's presented in the video, is these are natural formations along fault lines, altered by weathering and nature over seventy-five million years. A prime example are the formations you show at 29:00 minutes into the video. There's little question, those are natural faults and headwalls and footwalls. I've seen countless examples of this, albeit on a smaller scale, in exploring abandoned mines. I applaud your unbiased explanations here, and on the many other videos you've produced. Thank you for sharing your passion with us....
Yep, Montana gets earthquakes too. I know, as I was in one at Malmstrom AFB. This place looks to be in the Western half of Montana.
Man made perfect straight line to winter solstice. Summer solstice! That is the best evidence! No way that happens naturally!... Make the trip for summer and winter solstice...😮😮
There's a not dissimilar rock wall formation in Rockwall Texas. The debate about whether it was manmade or naturally occuring was a subject of intense debate for a century or so.
Recently, it was discovered that the orientation of the magnetic fields in the individual stones are all aligned. More or less proving that it's a naturally formed feature and the individual stones were all one monolithic form before fracturing into the pattern seen today. And so settling the debate for everyone except those who propose an ancient community of builders who were somehow aware of the existence of magnetism and it's properties, and had somehow developed a way to test, cut, and assemble stones so that all the fields are perfectly aligned. For what reason they can't say.
The desire for some specific outcome is strong in many people and leads to some interesting ideas, some more "interesting" than others
The interesting thing is the congruent vertical "joints". I'm not a professional either, but masons, even the ancient masons, typically space joints in an alternating pattern for stability and strength. I'm betting these are natural.
Also, if i could engineer blocks of this size, I would make the upper surfaces level or even stepped to avoid the risk of higher layers sliding.
Excellent observation. This is "wall building with blocks 101" and is the sort of thing smart kids figure out in kindergarten through simple trial and error.
The portion of the video showing where the wall was perfectly aligned except for the end, where a piece started sliding down, exemplifies this point. Had this been manmade and they had any inclination of engineering or masonry, they wouldn't have intentionally made that horizontal joint curved. If you're going through the effort to match and fit two immensely heavy stones together, you're not going to willingly choose to make them inherently unstable by using a downward sloping joint. It's not just illogical, that's going magnitudes of order into illogical.
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nice point
Thanks for a great video! But there's a thing here nobody's pointing out...no mason will line up their vertical joints. This whole formation is cool, but made by nature for sure.
Speaking a someone who has worked in construction for 30 years I agree
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What would be the purpose of a wall at this site? Defensive walls generally run around hills to protect a stronghold at the summit, not parallel to the slope. In most of the places you've shown us there have been artifacts - pot sherds, knapping flakes, grinding stones - but none here? Civilizations are messy and leave stuff behind, and i understand that no excavations have been done here but I seriously doubt any artifacts would be found. To my slightly educated eye this is a natural geologic formation.
Knapping flakes can be found anywhere so I would not be surprised. Ancient people might find such natural wonders mystical so there well might be artifacts to be found if the area is well excavated. That however would not indicate people made it. They just went to experience it. Pot shards would be my first bet, but the fact that there are no petroglyphs is almost weird. Maybe it is too remote and out of reach.
You don't even need to be educated to know this is natural. It's just a jumble of rocks with slightly square edges.
Just picture any rock you've seen with a colored band in it. This is just a band of rock that is harder than what's around it. And being crystaline it fractures with straight edges. Really easy to comprehend
@@t_c5266ya right looks so natural 😂😂
@@Snaxx_23 it literally does
Mother Nature is the artist. Father Time, the critic. Mother Nature and Father Time occasionally put away their differences to get together and collaborate on constructing puzzles or making up riddles for us to solve, question or find the answers to them.
The nubbin / protruding things are "chickenheads", which are very common in granite. They are like chunks of the rock that are just more resistant to weathering than the surrounding rock, so as the surrounding granite erodes away, you are left with these lumps. I would guess that flat platform area around 12:06 is remnants of an outer crust or shell that is also more resistant to weathering than the rest of the rock. Many climbers call this shell stuff "Patina", although I'm not sure if that is an accurate description of what the stuff is... For reasons I don't understand, it's not uncommon to see very flat areas of this shell stuff. You can be walking amongst a bunch of rounded boulders then spot one boulder with a dead flat face on one side composed of this shell stuff. Sometimes it also cracks in cool patterns, and can make these big solid plates. There are climbs that are entirely made up of this shell stuff. City of Rocks Idaho comes to mind. Up there, the shell is super solid and the underlying rock can be super soft and crumbly. In places, you can literally scoop out handfuls of eroding rock. Often the shell takes on a different color than the rest of the granite. In the City you can find dark brown, nearly black, and some deep red colors. Sometimes its just the same color as the rest of the granite though, as it appears in this case. You can usually tell that there is a difference between the shell stuff and the rest of the rock; it may have different grain, bigger or smaller crystals, or a different texture or something.
Sorry for the rant, I love this stuff! I would wager this feature is natural, although I will admit it is super unique and cool looking! And it definitely does look like it was built. Nature can do some amazing things. Thanks for sharing, love your videos!
Do you think the nubbins on known man made megalithic walls are a result of weathering resistance also?
@@andy57496 I wouldn't know, but I would guess that is a different thing to what is seen here. I only know the granite stuff cuz I've spent most of my life climbing around on it. Both things can exist; natural nubbins and man made nubbins...
As a non-expert, it looks natural to me. In the words of Carl Sagan, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." I know you are not making any claims but many have and will continue to do so. They will need very good evidence in my opinion. Very cool site though. Even as a natural feature it is well worth visiting and studying. Thanks for bringing us along!
Well said David, I’m curious what the Lidar will show, as that could settle it once and for all
Having seen this in person, it could go either way. Then again, I have never seen anything natural quite like this. Would love to see the ones in Russia….
when you see enormous carved granite megaliths at sites across the world you have extraordinary evidence, which if you work backwards requires an extraordinary explanation
@@Desert.DrifterAre you going to do that or is it in the works by someone else? I’m kind of surprised nobody hasn’t already done that!
There is nothing "extraordinary" about human activity. People have been in North America for tens of millennia. Altering a natural feature, like an igneous dike, to make it better suited for some purpose is ordinary human behavior. So, what matters here is not whether evidence of natural processes is found; that is literally _everywhere._ What matters is any undeniably human alterations.
@Desert.Drifter Attention is better directed to the remarkably numerous nearby dolmens. I hope you are still in the area and can visit those. "Tizer Dolment", "Evergreen Dolmen", and "Pink Vault", in particular.
Retired carpenter here, you’re going to want to cut your baseboard outside corners at 46 degrees not 45. Keeps that outside edge nice and crisp. Just sayin.
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Depends on how “square” the wall is. I have seen some where it might take a 47 or a little better. But 46 does do great for square walls.
Why not use your bevel and find the actual angle?
Where were u last year buddy 🤬
Just box join your corners like a real cow boy yeeha
As a retired sandwich artist from Subway, I can tell you for sure that this definitely is not a sandwich
Great to see Evelyn blazing trails with you again. She's so cute and sunny. Intriguing rock formation but it appears to be natural. A formation in Rockwall, TX was recently determined to be natural because the magnetic imprint of the rocks at formation all have the same direction. When I was at Fort Bliss, TX I would day trip to Hueco Tanks in southern NM. It's in the dry desert, but indentations in the smooth solid rock hold scarce rainwater and soil. So, fascinating little areas of lush growth appear in the rock as you wander along like bonsai desert oasis. It's an easy hike to see this or there are more challenging, up to rock climbing areas there. There's some rock art. I found a small hidden niche behind a scrubby bush with the ceiling painted in a Native pattern.
The experiment I suggest would be to check the magnetic alignment of each individual rock. If they are all aligned the same then you can be sure that they were all formed in place naturally. If the stones have mixed alignments then it is a man made structure. If MOST of them are aligned but not all then you have a natural structure that has been altered by some previous human civilization.
You're welcome 😊
#paneofreality " If MOST of them are aligned but not all then you have a natural structure that has been altered by some previous human civilization."
Or altered by glaciers, earthquakes, freeze/thaw cycles, or other natural phenomenon. While there are man-made things that are doubted by "experts" there are many natural structures that are completely amazing.
@keybase8653 - Galciers, earthquakes, or other natural phenomenon might very well knock down and scatter stones from a natural wall. But they are not likely going to stack them back up into a clean structure. It is unlikely anyone would think a structure constructed by an earthquake was man made. Good science also requires some common sense.
You are not very good at this, are you.
Perhaps the ancient people didn't know about magnetic alignment
Would be interesting, to see how a test like this comes out !
These are the remnants of the Giant Trees. Petrified wood which often features abrupt terminations, resulting in a flat edge. Sharp angled breaks are also normal, in my observations. The nubs are buds. Just like any plant has. The holes are from Giant Borers. This is what I believe to be true, even though not many will agree. Go ahead and laugh, if you want? Geologists hate to even discuss this, even though the Old Testament holds it to be true. I love your work Bro. Thanks for the great videos.❤
Wonderful program tonight. So many open questions about megalithic structures. You two kids keep it up! Im old and still awestruck.
There are miles upon miles of similar walls in Montana. To look at one tiny bit and try to ascribe it to a lost civilization does an ill service to Mother Nature and her might. In the Upper Missouri Breaks National Monument you will find walls that were described by the first explorers, Lewis and Clark, as they traveled through in 1805 on their way to the Pacific. I quote from the journals of Lewis, Eagle Creek encampment May 31st, 1805. " As we passed on it seemed as if those seens of visionary inchantment would never have and end; for here it is too that nature presents to the view of the traveler vast ranges of walls of tolerable workmanship, [3] so perfect indeed are those walls that I should have thought that nature had attempted here to rival the human art of masonry had I not recollected that she had first began her work. These walls rise to the hight in many places of 100 feet, are perpendicular, with two regular faces and are from one to 12 feet thick, each wall retains the same thickess at top which it possesses at bottom. The stone of which these walls are formed is black, dence and dureable, and appears to be composed of a large portion of earth intermixed or cemented with a small quantity of sand and a considerable portion of talk or quarts. these stones are almost invariably regular parallelepipeds, of unequal sizes in the walls, but equal in their horizontal ranges, at least as to debth. these are laid regularly in ranges on each other like bricks, each breaking or covering the interstice of the two on which it rests. thus the purpendicular interstices are broken, and the horizontal ones extend entire throughout the whole exent of the walls. These stones seem to bear some proportion to the thickess of the walls in which they are employed, being larger in the thicker walls; the greatest length of the parallelepiped appears to form the thickess of the thiner walls, while two or more are employed to form that of the thicker walls. These walls pass the river in several places, rising from the water's edge much above the sandstone bluffs, which they seem to penetrate; thence continuing their course on a streight line on either side of the river through the gradually ascending plains, over which they tower to the hight of from ten to seventy feet untill they reach the hills, which they finally enter and conceal themselves. these wall"
Go and look for yourself. I did.
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@@gageguy Exactly as Lewis wrote it 220 years ago. There are many creative spellings. There was little dictionary perfect writing in 1800.
a lot of this stuff is to add depth to the delusions of urban children who have never seen a bird and will off themselves on fentanyl before the next election. aren't fraternal lodge organisations wonderful eh.
@@atomictraveller I am an oddity,, I know this. I have studied. There is a concept for you and I have traveled a great deal. I have been in Montana and seen the walls,, the dikes from magma intrusions and the sills and pipes that surfaced. I have even had a shovel and done my own digging. But How many people have traveled the Missouri River by canoe through Montana, camped, taken the time to explore,, not many. Unfortunately, I think you are absolutely correct,, if they cannot take a jeep or four wheel drive something into the back country,, with no muffler,, and part of the 'sport' is doing it at night under their head lights,,, Imagine trying to get some sleep at riverside after paddling 20 miles,, and having a demented chain saw revving every second or so,, you can hear them for 10 miles. Or paddling the 200 plus miles of Lake Powell and having wake boats coming close repeatedly,, because they have never seen a canoe. Wake boats that leave a hole in the water so a surf board can be used on a flat lake, wakes that bound and rebound from stone canyon wall to stone canyon wall again and again.,,, Rude bastards. And then an entire list of people here who don't know and are not told thet the first images are NOT from Montana,, they are from 6,000 miles south,, and an identifiable ancient culture.
All in all, it's just another brick in the wall.
Ya can't have any pudding if ya don't eat your meat!
Gornaya Soria in Sibera makes this look like a toy brick set - BUT apparently dated to 100,000 year's ago as the ice age set in .
" land bridge " comes to mind as it would be possible to walk from Russia to America back then .
May have brought the knowledge and had to make do with what they had iff the left the " tools " behind .
And the Black sea structures with small raised " doorways " bare a resemblance to the ones you search out , as well as being on high ground .( some show conception calendars that are pretty much the same layout as modern graphs ) .
The Khara Hora shaft is a intersting thing also as the straight cuts show human design .
With the likes of the Anabar plateau also having advanced structures of unknown origin .
Bear in mind that these batholiths and plutons form up to hundreds of miles underground and gradually push up like blobs in a lava lamp while they slowly cool from molten and the ground above them erodes with the ice and weather. By the time uplift and erosion has brought them to the surface the action of underground water has widened the cracks formed during that slow cooling (thik Giants Causeway, though that is basalt but they form in similar ways.). The Cascades are a pluton though only four million years old, By the time they have worn to nubs in seventy five million years, they will look just like that. In archaeology training, when looking at such as granite tors, you are taught to ask whether something was put there deliberately and if so, why and what resources and potential reasons would they have. Why would bands of hunter gatherers be so high in those howling mountains, freezing their bits off at the time of the winter solstice when the game was down in the valleys?
Because ancient aliens helped them
yes and we would look for actual dateable evidence of human occupation, like tons of people! working enormous stones like that literally requires feeding and army. there would be hearths, flakes, bones, etc
Finally some tells it correctly, they are formed underground, just like Pikes Peak, Colorado.
Looking at it from an aerial view does make it look like a geological fault line or Seam... at 3:17 you can also see across from the wall, a rougher group of similar cracked rocks that do not "look" stacked...
Absolutely correct
Having grown up in Western Colorado - and spent HS years in central Wyoming as a kid, I really enjoy your videos from my old stomping grounds.
The Sage Wall is a little over an hour away from where my father is buried...he loved that part of the world, for many reasons, and you talk about many of them, that he had a hard time putting in to words.
Thank you for what you do.
I was born in Montrose and live in Delta. I love Wy and MT but haven't spent much time in MT.
If the wall is naturally created, it's absolutely incredible that its remained so perfectly straight for millions of years, or even man made staying in place for 50 thousand years is amazing either way.
Check out Myron Cook. He's a geologist either from Wyoming or Montana. He checks out how many natural features in the area are formed. he could be a good guy to get an opinion from. I also posted on one of his videos describing a wall to turn him on to your explorations.
Myron is da maaaaaaan
I have property about three miles away. I have my own wall. It's not man made.
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shucks you could of made so much money keeping america stupider 💚❣
...or is it? Dun dun dun
@@wesley5nipes it's not.
You should post a video
@@Senph42 But he said Dun dun dun, so... Refuting nonsense is harder when it's accompanied by dramatic music.
The large flat feature you show later in the video is a hogback, and they're effectively the remnants of fossilized beach, as they are composed of sandstone, and they are up at angles because the mountains in the background rose up at some point after the beach had become sandstone, elevating it into the position we see today.
With regard to the Sage Wall, it seems glaringly obvious that it is a natural feature, although I would not be surprised in the slightest if native people used the formation in some way, possibly as a animal run, with hunters on the walls and runners chasing game through the narrow space created by the formation and its companion, perhaps as a site of worship due to it's solar significance, and potentially both, cause that does seem like a very impressive thing, the naturally straight wall that lines up with the sun on the special days, where it's especially easy to catch a large amount of game, and that would basically make it The Holy Hunting Grounds, which feels like it would be a thing.
One thing to keep in mind with the Winter Solstice alignment, even only a thousand years ago, the alignment would have been different due to precession. The axis of the Earth moves, much like a spinning top. If this wall were thousands of years ago, the alignment would have been considerably different
Andrew, I'm e joying all of your videos, your best are with Evelyn.
Something, I've been wondering is whether these Ancient rocks share the same Earth Meridian? Also, are they on Leylines?
@@simhifreeLOL You’re not responding to Andrew…
Thanks for the reminder. This also makes the claims of astrology invalid.
It would not be considerably different. Stonehenge is several thousand years old and is only slightly out of alignment.
This fact went through my head as soon as he mentioned trying to align it with his compass. This formation is very old, and the Procession of equinoxes [~26,000 years] would certainly throw off any alleged alignment. Also, agonic lines of magnetic deviation must be considered, and I'd think heavy concentrations of Magnetite would further disrupt this. . . . This last variable can throw off the reading at least 20%, to my [limited] knowledge.
Final note here; IF this formation were erected 26,000 years ago +/- a few thousand, it would once again align. I would NOT discount that possibility.
Andrew, thank you for taking us to Sage Wall. Hey Evelyn 😅
I can't believe you're finally doing this one. I love following this site, and you're my favorite explorer youtuber. This will be a treat!
Those bulges in the granite are extremely common. I see granite cracks that look like stacked blocks all the time. The unusual part is that it is in the form of a wall
I believe that is an ancient glacier rub. I have seen others that form very straight walls. The extreme weight and pressure of the glacier ice will fracture rock into sections just like what you are seeing here...Just my two cents.
@@xippzap yeah I agree. I have seen rock “walls” just as straight as this in other areas of the Rocky Mountains. Same granite rock, similar bulges like this, etc. i think that people like this feature because it looks like stacked “blocks”.
Agreed, looks completely natural to me; plus, building a gigantic wall in the middle of nowhere with nothing else anywhere near it? Don't think so...
Looks similar to the walls found in Rockwall, Texas.
Myron Cook has a video named 'Investigate a Mysterious Undocumented rock wall' on a similar structure.
Magnetic property. If you had stuck a neodymium magnet on the rock, I wouldn’t have thought twice about it. But since you managed to stick a rubber/iron ( refrigerator magnet) to it… It instantly attracted my attention.
Ferrous metals don’t occur naturally on earth for the most part. So a magnet would need to generate a strong magnetic field to attract to the iron bearing ore in the rocks. Magnetite or hematite. So sticking a rubber magnet 100 gauss on the low end to 1,100 gauss seems improbable. A neodymium magnet at 13,000gauss, much more probable. One way to try and determine if you have found a potential candidate for a meteorite, is to see if it will attract a refrigerator magnet or a ceramic magnet, 1,300 gauss. Iron is present in most meteorites. Not in earth rocks. The ore’s must be processed to produce iron. (Plenty of molten iron in Earth’s core, just not in the crust).
Surprising.
Very thought provoking
Ferrous metals don't occur naturally on earth...?
Iron being Ferrous... iron- is something like 32% of the earth's makeup. 😂 naturally? Wtf even is that, our earth and every other planetary body is nothing but a mass of gasses and metals and that the happenstance of gravity being a thing pulled in particles of space dust and debris. Iron being one of those elements that literally were the first. Not naturally occurring on earth? 😂 it's been the most abundant usable metallic body on earth since earth began to exist.
Check out the story of Cpt James Cook and his experience sailing past an island of eastern Australia. He named it Magnetic Island for the reason you mention. 😊🇦🇺
Some people are commenting that the size of the blocks would preclude this from being manmade. This is not so, these blocks are no bigger than stones erected at other prehistoric sites.
The fact that it could be an avenue between two walls also adds to the idea that it is manmade - avenues that align with the solstices exist on a much larger scale than this and clearly played an important role to prehistoric people, perhaps as routes of procession during the solstices.
The cups are unconvincing. It seems unusual that a manmade cup would have no pattern unless otherwise as a connecting socket for other blocks. Both of which are seen in prehistoric monoliths, but not here.
The fact that it is in a site with naturally occurring granite doesn't rule out the possibility of human involvement either. Fyfield Down, near Avebury, is littered with natural rocks, but amongst them exist dolmens and evidence of stonework.
It would be unusual to have a site of this scale, possibly related to the solstices, without any burial chambers/ barrows etc nearby.
I can't comment much on Native American lifestyles, but I don't think nomadism would be a reason to discredit this either - it appears that stones in other monuments have been moved great distances and that people migrated great distances in prehistoric times, yet still had numerous sites that they gathered at.
On gut feeling though, and due to the similarities with the other sites, I'd say this is natural.
If all we could see here is the wall, it’s understandable that people might see this as a man-made structure. But with context, it becomes clear that this is a natural formation. The overhead shots give us the context. The solstice alignments are happenstance.
They can check and compare the magnetic particles in individual stones to see if they`re all aligned or scrambled. In natural formations all magnetic particles will be oriented the same from when they formed.
@sdpicturecard6858 no amount of false pretext makes it clear. Nature does not make horizontal and vertical cracks in blocked shapes. Furthermore, the wall is flush. You may lie to yourself all you wish, bit save your delusions for yourself and let the thinking people come to conclusions on their own merits. Your education on geology is the biggest laugh at your expense there ever will be. It's all trash. Everything you learned to recite is useless. Utterly useless. Now, use the brain God gave you and try again. This time without the blinders on.
Natural formation. I've seen them plenty times. I do not advise this and i'm ... reserved in saying it because i know people (not referring to DD) and how they behave, but it's easily seen that they're the same rock formed through lava,... if you chip away two adjacent stones. The one formation i saw here in Europe had a spalled section and you could see the rock's veins through.
I also know about these from school, 5th grade geography (morphology of rock formations) from the early 80's, dunno what they teach these days, but it's common knowledge.
It's the effect caused by pockets of lava cooling at different rates, forming "skins" that act like cells, delimitating these volumes and thus forming these lines, which aren't really there. You can see the effect in almost all fluids that share this potential for this separation to form. Can be the surface of the sun, can be lava, can be even that fluid we used to play with as kids, that made the pretty mixing shapes when shaken.
Natural formations don't have 90 degree cuts in them
@@carolburton4711/videos Except they do. The horizontal lines are the layers, the ones that go almost vertically, are the stress of the moving earth cracking the rock layers in the areas where the magma cooled differently. You can achieve the same result if you pour concrete in layers. Pour one layer, let it set, pour another on top, let it set and so on. Once it's all set, if you start stressing this concrete monolith like the one above got done in by crust movement, layers will separate and once they separate, they will crack.
The sloppier your concrete mix is, the closer the effect, which is so, because lava moves depending on how it cools, because it's not a perfectly homogeneous fluid. Some parts cool faster, some parts cool slower. That's why in a rock quarry, some parts get relegated to the 100k$ part of the yard and others to the 1k$ part of the yard (some rock quarries even have a gift shop where they sell all the loose stone of lesser quality for visitors, because the supposedly strong as balls granite... isn't always the same grade and quality and some granite you can literally crack with a half a kilo hammer, while the higher quality stuff is so strong, that it dulls carbide. :D
Science is cool, knowledge is power, knowledge also allows me to not be scammed by the people who own the land and let me go to the Joshua Tree National Park and see the same formations, just far more eroded AND more importantly exposed from all sides, unlike these, thus allowing me to understand these are not rocks, it's one rock, broken apart.
well except we're brainwashing a nation here. believe in nonsense, cast magic spells aided by HSS satellite network. education certainly isnt relevant. MK brainwash. "i need ancient giants because society is intolerable but i don't know how to do anything except believe in trashy novels"
About two adjacent boulders showing continuity in rock composition. This is indeed the first thing I noticed: along horizontal strata, there is a clear continuity from one rock to the next, this in each of the different strata shown in the video. This can only be natural. Also, when you follow some cracks, some ends in the middle of a boulder. This also can only be obtained through a natural process.
We had boulder piles behind our house and they were put there there by giants!😊
As an offroad company, I do not believe those rocks are suitable for offroading. Also they are not manmade. However, there was probably a huge cultural significance to them from any ancient peoples who found them. I love the story ARC of this video. In the beginning I was convinced they were manmade and by the end I had my doubts.
About the second spot when you said we didn't see a wall, 24:49 looks like a wall to me. As a former geologist, I'd definately be in the natural camp. I would be curious to see if the magnetic signature of the rocks in the Sage Wall have the same or different orientations. If constructed, meaning the rocks were shaped and stacked, they should all be different, both from each other and the surrounding rocks. If natural, they should all be the same. Using a similar priciple was how plate tectonics was proved in the 1960s. Cores taken either side of the mid-Atlantic Ridge were compared and they were the same age, composition and magnetic signature based on distance from the Ridge.
Thank you for using the surrounding area as context. I've watched a couple videos on the Sage Wall and they only talked about the wall itself and nothing about the area as a whole.
I'm just a casual observer here. After watching the entire video and based on what you showed from the other two sites, I'm leaning towards the Sage wall being a natural formation. The straightness of the wall is impressive, but the third site also looks very straight along its length. The approximate 90-degree angles can also be seen at the other two sites as the drone flies by. In my opinion, the best argument for the Sage wall being a man-made feature is the close alignment with the winter and summer solstices. That is very odd indeed. Really hard to say; it's a very compelling site! Love your videos; keep on exploring!
I remember a story from a British archaeological tv show called 'Time Team' following 'exploratory/investigatory digs', they where digging a suspected prehistoric (some time before 5000 years ago) site
One of the misidentification from old studies had 'pit dwellings', round-ish holes in the ground with small bits of flint tools in them
Later studies found they aren't prehistoric houses at all, but they are the hole left when a tree falls over and pulls up its root, then the surrounding material including small flint arrow heads etc get washed in to the hole
Doesn't mean people weren't hunting in the area with bows etc, but its wasn't where they lived....
People, even the professionals, see patterns then try to understand them with whatever knowledge they have available to them at that time
The episode is on TH-cam btw
Time Team was one of my favourite shows growing up. Rewatching some of the episodes now with a more critical eye has had me realize how often they come to their conclusion based on conjecture. It’s still en extremely informative and entertaining show, but not as academically stringent as they try to portray themselves.
@@adamgriss2025 same as a teenager
I think some of the 'experts' where given to flights of fancy, or had pet theories, or axes to grind...
And they did a valuable actual arachnological 'job' that of a long weekend assessing a possible site only known from the public or incomplete old reports. The ones with the best evidence they went to do a quick dig to see if anything was actually there...
I remember when the show started people complained about the misconception of a "made for TV 3 day time limit" Most of them had no background in archology and didn't realise that so few sites had a good record of them or where only listed as a 'site' based on evidence s little as a single bronze "bronze aged" broach or some coins
There was never a shortage of archology to find in the British Isles, only a shortage of money and time...
Plus all scientist, reguardless of fields are imaginative sorts ;) Put them on camera, maybe after a drink or two and see them go into all sort of idea, they would love to prove or find :D
Awesome stuff Andrew. 100% natural. Geology is amazing. Near my home in Lancashire they used to mine stone flags (flags are the thin slabs of stone or concrete used to make "sidewalks")
We have tons and tons of granite like this in Arizona where we hike, and we have all of those formations here as well, the naturally formed knobs, the straight lined boulders, and tons of water potholes. Let alone the most amazingly balanced rocks, little arches formed by erosion, etc etc.
I also live in AZ, have hiked many areas including Granite Mountain in Prescott. I've never seen any granite formations like this anywhere in AZ. It is absolutely definitely man made.
If it's so common and so natural everywhere, why is this particular location in question?
@@MMAFreakofNature It's not common anywhere, much less in AZ where I also live. They're just defending the establishment narrative so they don't get cancelled.
@@WiseSnake Not at all, they purposely made the front of the wall straight for whatever reason, pretty obvious to the rest of us here.😂
Maybe you should make a video? I have done a lot of hiking and I would say this is a rare formation.
What would be neat is if some organization did a LIDAR survey of the area. It would be interesting to see what other structures or formations are now hidden by the trees.
This video has now been offered for viewing a whole 42 minutes. There already are 4,355 views. 42 minutes has 2,520 seconds in them. This video is getting 2 views per second. I admire that. Maine said to say "hello".
This forest is primed for a fire. It needs to be cleared.
I noticed that too
Montana contains 145,509.2 square miles of land area, and barely a million people, including the large cities. You're welcome to come clear it for us.😊
Would a fire not clear it?
Forests have been around for 470 million years with mostly no humans to “manage” them. They are fine.
@@dansuehath Sure, but forest fires have also been happening for that long - however now we live amongst and around woodland so it would impact us too.
Also, we have tampered with ecosystems and woodlands, so some management is required to restore habitats and support their inhabitants otherwise they will be lost which can lead to a number of problems.
What really stands out to me is how the rocks look tipped up from the back. This is the technique modern rock workers use when building retaining walls out of natural rock. Geology is definitely anomalous by nature, but there are definitely features that lend itself to possible intelligent design.
I've been to all the great megalithic sites in the Americas. One thing they all have in common is that the join lines are offset: just like bricks, they are all offset for strength. These align from one block to another. They are natural joints (fractures), not seams. Oh, and btw, I am an Engineering Geologist.
Yep, all the ancient civilisations knew that if you overlapped (offset) the vertical joints each row, it resulted in better stability and a far stronger wall. Plus, you gained the ability to build the wall as tall as you liked. Walls that have vertical joints from top to bottom, are just unstable, are far more prone to toppling over and are far more easily breached (if defensive). Mainly because there's nothing that is bonding the entirety of the wall together. In that situation they are just separate and percurisaly balanced stacks of rocks, that have been placed side by side.
This is just a naturally formed ridge of granite, where a bunch of aligned fractures have formed naturally throughout it, via weathering, water erosion and probably tectonic disturbance. If it was a manmade wall, it would undoubtedly have some offsets between the joints.
Any straight lines in nature is MANMADE - if you don’t know this…keep exploring young Jedi.
@benjaminjantzen1398 You're kidding, right? No straight lines in nature? How about bedding planes in the Grand Canyon? Fault line traces through granite? Fractures in the bedrock in Yosemite, Anza Borrego? Radial dikes at Devil's Tower? Need I go on?
Living in the area, I have seen others similar. There hasn't been artifacts along with this 'discovery'. There is a woman promoting it..taking people on tours..etc but it's kind of bogus to make them believe it's an old archeological site.
Bingo.
Very interesting and this is my first time hearing anything about this rock formation. As someone who has no geological, archaeological or any other type of “ogical” knowledge or experience I would have bet the farm that this was man made. And based on your comments as well as many other comments from viewers I apparently would be wrong. It is astounding to me that a magnetic pull could so perfectly line up and stack? a formation such as this wall. Kind of mind blowing if you think about it. Thoroughly enjoyed this video and very much appreciate the fact that you present all possibilities and don’t try to sway your viewers one way or the other.
I've done lots of hiking. I've seen many places like this. I would say a natural formation.
This is just a normally weathered jointed granite dyke from the parent batholith. These types of structures are all over the world. Please don't go down the conspiracy video route.
I see the same. A dike of a different composition so it's weathering slower than the surrounding rock. And there's a slickenside at 30:29. Just beaten up natural rock.
Being a geologist from the southwest, i’ve studied many geological formations like this. This one looks to me as naturally occurring. Thank you
1:42 See the cliff behind her in the background? Same linear fracturing pattern. Artificial walls are constructed to avoid stacking blocks one on top with a weakening fault line to topple stones.
That’s a false premise fallacy. Assuming there’s a correct universal way to create a wall in ancient times. Idk if it’s real but that’s not an argument.
Well at least you didn’t take it for granite
I like corn 😂
Rats, you beat me to it.
As long as we're all being gneiss...
You Crack me up! 😂
I've worked building stone walls for large portions of my life. What i can tell you, and i think youll realise you dont see it in any of the old rock walls in southern america either, is you NEVER line up verticle seams and you'd also never make a joint with a horizontal seam that isnt perfectly, or damn near, flat. The sage wall had those rocks where you pointed out it would have been more straight if those rocks hadn't slid out where there was a horizontal seam with a slope, and there are entire huge sections where the vertical seams went from top to bottom with an additional top to bottom seam within some tens of feet. Its just not good practice, and it's something the builders of the south american walls realized as well. As much as i myself would LOVE to think that the sage wall is man made, and i wholeheartedly do, believe me, i would have to say that, with very little doubt, it is a natural rock formation. I was hoping that i would get to see you look closely at the tops of the parts of the wall where the stones were missing from a few spots to see if there were any signs of slots cut in for metal bracketry, but i wouldnt tell you to go make another trip to see. Im 99%sure, based on what ive explained, that you wouldnt find any. I'm truely disappointed really, because when i turned on your video, I was going to make a trip to see the wall myself if it showed any convincing signs that it was man made.😕
Remember that this area was covered in ice for a time.
New Zealand & other places have this same type of granite structure.
The answer? LIDAR. This needs to be done to see if there are truly any real remnants of city-like patterns. Case in point, the cities discovered just recently in central America. That'll give a better idea of any evidence of structures.
It's completey natural - that's my determination. Looks cool, but that's how granite cracks naturally.
People taking nature for "granite"🙃
Definitely not man-made. Just from a cursory, superficial appearance (having never actually been there), I'd say it's a granitoid dike (perhaps of syenite). Differential erosion of the host rock within which it initially injected has weathered and eroded away that gives the structure a walled appearance. Given the age and likely depth of initial emplacement, a lot has 'happened' to the regional landscape that has created the pseudo-tooled appearance of the structure. For example, glacially-related isostatic rebound of the regional terrain could easily have released any inherent stress within the rocks and created the joint pattern seen here. Geologic mapping of the region would be highly informative.
It's absolutely man-made.
@@lmm.5619 If you are 2 years old, yes it is obvious,
@@lmm.5619 Kaiju baby Kong was playing with his legos.
@@moochydacat So was your mom
A man-made wall (megalithic or otherwise) is typically erected to enclose and protect people from enemies outside. The terrain suggests this is not the case here, as there's no safe living space being enclosed. There only seems to be a steep downward mountain slope on the "protected" side of this alleged "wall". Which makes it non-sensical that it is a man-made. Regardless of magnetism or orientation.
I am a geologist who has taught structural geology courses covering features just like this. These are natural fractures in the rock called joints. The horizontal ones are exfoliation or unloading joints which result from expansion of the rock as it is slowly uplifted to the surface as overlying rocks are removed by erosion. The steeply dipping joints result from tectonic stresses involving compression or extension. A simple Google search would provide pictures of these features.
NOPE - you’ve just been fooled by the religion of SCIENCE your whole life…theories/lies based off of more theories/lies! You’re wrong - it’s MANMADE
Looks like a natural formation to me. The crack at 5:01 is a natural crack.
Looks like a man-made formation to me.
100% natural like the NZ equivalent
'Vertical' cracks running thru multiple layers is never seen anywhere else because it's weak, the tight cracks are rough unlike any of the manmade walls. Many natural walls look similar.
@@DefeatTheWokeEstablishment get some education.
Finding natural features is not diagnostic. People are known to take advantage of natural phenomena. To dismiss, you need a complete lack of artificial features. The dolmens in the area make that difficult.
I think you were correct when you speculated it was a modified natural formation. The thing I noticed about this site and some others is that when they have a parallel wall and are abutted by steep rocky slopes, forming a protected interior space. The most compelling sites also have seasonal alignments that would illuminate those protected interior spaces. A large population of brilliant, knowledgeable, skillful people with an ethos to live simply and naturally and respect Mother Earth to leave as little trace on her as possible, creating a space for seasonal celebrations and all the economic and intelligence exchanges that define the connections of humans that is true civilization, rather than what Achedemia mislabeled as civilization, which is the rise of the predatory elite who invented the vicious alpha dog feudalism, conquests. In other words, imperialism, which opened the mythical pandora's box, is the metaphor for what we experience now in our so-called modern civilization.
If an Earth-native intelligent species or modern humans created these places, they would have served the same purpose as Stonehenge-type constructions in the ancient world
It’s…awkward to suggest that “tight fitting cracks” implies human engineering. All natural cracks begin as “tight fitting” because immediately before the crack forms in the rock…it’s all one solid rock. Does that really need to be explained further?
And a 90° angle also doesn’t automatically imply human intent either. Cracks can occur at any angle, including perpendicular to gravity. Many conifers tend grow directly perpendicular to gravity. Does that imply human intervention? The ocean horizon appears completely flat? Man-made? You see how silly this argument sounds?
And the nubs…have you ever seen garnet schist? Are you familiar with deep sea manganese nodules? Geological formations have all sorts of interesting features that “resemble” much later human creations. I like to imagine the first hominids to find crystilline formations of perfectly cubic pyrite or perfectly flat sheets of pyrite. If anything, humans were possibly first intrigued at the idea of trying to imitate such “perfect” shapes…imitating nature versus the other way around.
The suggestion that a rock wall is man-made, on the other hand, demands numerous other questions that should always be foremost in your thinking: What purpose would it have served? Was there a known population in the area large enough to have supported its construction? Is there any other evidence of human occupation in the vicinity? Etc
Simply thinking/saying “It just kinds looks a lot like (whatever else)” is not valid investigative inquiry; it is merely idle musing not worthy of scientific claim.
Have you noticed how the red sandstone along the Colorado Front Range is all tilted at the *same angle*? It MUST be a man-made structure! (sarcasm)
There is no natural rock formation having 90 degree, and the natural rock formation WILL NOT FORM A STRAIGHT WALL. These walls have the same characteristic of Sacsayhuaman's wall, natural crack my ass.
@@fulgrimthephoenician1022 Fulgrim the Phoenician, who speaks for the entire scientific community, has thus decreed, and therefore it is absolute fact. Thank you for the abundant evidence you have provided.
@@abcedertreetoo You and your entire community cannot understand how the fuck the pyramid was build, yet you denied everything you THINK that unsuitable for your puny mind.
@@fulgrimthephoenician1022If you look again, the specific angle he points at is actually 91°, so it has the thumbs up of the Gods to be 100% natural.
Very compelling, but I see rock breaking down naturally.
I’m glad everyone here is a professional and can explain everything that ever happened
Natural structure is all.
Completely natural, without a doubt. It is decomposing granite. It is common in Montana.
Are there any other areas in Montana that have similar geology? I only see videos showing Sage Wall
@@daisydog388 The area around Butte Montana there is any area called The Boulder Batholith. It is similar geology.
@@TTT-tn3ul coo, thanks
To Desert Drifter and courageous wife, firstly thank you for all of your fascinating videos. Secondly I would suggest that you consider as an explanation for the seemingly inexplicable rock features at Sage Wall, Wyoming and the Grand Canyon, the catastrophic vortices and fill and drain dynamics which would precede and follow the truly global flood account found in many oral and written traditions from around the world..
Lovely couple exploring the past, Regards from UK
Its geological. Also no one builds walls with "running lines" like that. Remember how lego works?
I am a retired welder, and one thing I know, is if I know anything, I wouldn’t have been a welder! 😁
Never heard of this before.
Very fascinating.
Love your work, keep it up.
Greetings from Sweden.
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the hype around the sage wall suddenly makes a lot more sense when you revealed it's a tour destination
this is the best presentation of this megalithic structure ive seen yet
The tight cracks like shown at 5:02 clearly show natural. Next you have erosion making it smooth "tight" fits of "human made" stone.
I agree with you 💯. I thought the same thing
From here looks natural
Parts look natural. Parts of it look man made
Look at those pics of the Central American man-made wall. Notice that there are no "cracks" which run from top to bottom. Since prehistoric times, anybody building a wall knows that the one thing you NEVER do is to have joins line up vertically. Doing this keeps walls rigid, a top-to-bottom join or crack will be where a wall fails. Notice also that there are a LOT of just such cracks in this 'wall'. Also, many minerals naturally fracture along straight lines, often at 90°. This is 100% a naturally-occurring phenomena.
You look so happy with Evelyn 🥰🙏 Glad to see you heading out as a team 🥰🙏💖🌈🌎🦋🐿🐄🌻🌈
Lidar would be awesome
The results of the Lidar scan should be released before long. Curious what it will show
The formations are beautiful. I think they are not man made. My training is that the cracks propagate from one row to the next, from one column to the next. If you have ever built a wall from stones, you want the seams to not align so that as the underlying ground shifts over time, the rocks don't collapse in columns. That same method is used in stone construction from the Egyptians to the Incas. The sage wall does not have that characteristic because it is, itself, an extension of the bed rock. You could confirm or refute this idea with some careful grain analysis along seams. If the grain structures are the same about seams, then the seams are likely cracks in the same rock. If not, then they were stacked.
you dont build a wall with straight blocks piled ontop of each other... rows of blocks are layered in an alternate pattern with the previous layer... even the megalithic walls were staggered... this is geological formation nothing more.
BRICK/BLOCK LAYERS MANTRA EQUALS- - - - - ONE OVER TWO, TWO OVER ONE, DUH!
The wells in the rocks at 23:39 look like the coquina rocks we get around coastal Florida. The wells form when debris settles in a natural depression in the stone. The water rolls the debris around and creates these bowl-like depressions that can get pretty deep.
Marineland Beach has great examples of that.
This was definitely a change of pace but thanks for the best footage I’ve ever seen of sage wall. I’m here a few minutes after upload and I bet in 6 mos this video has at least 5 million views.
I’m a professor in ancient technology, and Yes, this is ancient building long before ACE! Btw, geologists knows NOTHING about ancient technology, and to say this is natural, is both incompetent and stupid!😂
It might be manmade - but it is clearly not a stupid suggestion that this is natural. The overwhelming opinion is that it is natural, and it makes the most sense that it is natural.
Your degree and alma mater if you please, professor?
@@JhondTorstenson MSc Hustling, Hustler's University
As I am watching this, I remember on the small farm that I grew up on there was an spot that had a grouping ironstone on it. There was one stone standing up about 1.5 m and laying next to it was a stone laying down also about the same size. If you look at it you will get the impression of a bed with a headboard. On the stones there was the same kind of pockets as you are showing here. I grew up in Bloemfontein, Free State, South Africa. That part of South Africa is reletively flat and semi desert, with few mountains.
The wall reminds me of the rock work done at Machu Picchu and the older Aztec pyramids in Mexico that I have visited. I’ve been following you for a while, and this is one of the more impressive videos you’ve posted.
It's not even close to the same. Apples and oranges.
Great Episode.
Thank you to Chris & Linda for allowing you to film.
Hi Mrs. Dessert Drifter 🙌
Interesting investigation, I believe you showed quite convincingly this Granite weathers just like your “control” granite in Wyoming. As far as the straight alignment of the wall, earth quakes can generate straight vertical fissures, you can see them closer to home in Snow Canyon or Zion parks in the Navajo sandstone, straight parallel cracks (vertical fissures) from a few inches to tens of feet apart. Occasionally a segment between two fissures drops down and exposes a nice straight vertical wall, the Raven crack petroglyphs are located in such a crack, but you can find them in many places in the Navajo sandstone. I don’t think anybody would attribute these smooth walls to human activity. If you check your drone shots, there appear to be quite a few parallel lines that caught my eyes.