Game of Thrones Symbolism: House Tully
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The Take by ScreenPrism A video on Cersei please!
Do the Reeds! Please and thank you!
Oh and Azor Ahai!
House Tully have the characteristics of a Piscies which is represented as fishes which is part of the the Tullies sign in their flags and shields.
Can you do a video on House Frey or House Clegane?
Amazing! One thing though is that I truly wish you could've done observations of the legacies of the surviving Tully/Stark children ARYA, SANSA, and THREE EYED RAVEN.
The House that Grew due to marriages and fell due to a wedding.
Their house created one of my favourite characters, the blackfish, and it saddens me that their house lies in ruins.
Reminds me of the Austrian Empire: they weren´t great warriors, but great diplomats and schemers. They got their empire through marriages and it fell apart because it got too big and chaotic.
Hopefully we at least get a reference to Edmure in season 8!
Wedding to the wrong woman
You sir, are a poet.
*she died thinking her partner is unfaithful*
*she died thinking her children are dead*
😭😭😭😭😭
She still had hopes that her daughters are alive. If it wasn't for her sending Brianne to rescue and protect them, who knows what would have happened to Sansa.
And watched her son and grandchild murdered before her very eyes.
Not In the books 😂
Not in the books. She's still going strong and vengeful there.
She deserved it. She's crazy.
Catelyn Stark's fighting off Bran's assassin with her bare hands==Mother of the year right there!
indeed
Yeah and she got her eldest killed.
@@georgeprchal3924 Robb got himself killed.
@@georgeprchal3924 She got her husband killed
@@petebondurant58 she was the one who negotiated that terrible marriage. She should have let the Black Fish do the talking. No Frey would dare vex him.
I like to think that Sansa also is more Tully than Stark as she grew up. Becoming more like her mother physically and personally. She lacks most of the stubbornness that became an unintended Stark personality trait in most the family. A lot of determination and compassion too. So if Edmure doesn't survive this season, the Tullys might be gone in name but not in blood.
There is more of her mother in Arya too than most people give either credit for. Perhaps the most successful mix of Stark and Tully is on the one who avenges family upon another family. She knows how to swim unseen in the waters, but this fish bites.
I'd like to think they have a lot of tully qualities to, Cat had many problems and was exposed to HORRIBLE situations where she had to pick her family, but I'd like to think the girls have like "The good tully trails" mostly Sansa but I am so happy someone else noticed Arya to, Tullies are really good at adapting (like whith Aegon conquest), better than most Starks but I do love them both.
If anything that is a true reflection of Tully values of the power of extended family
And like her mom did to rob almost got Jon killed just like how her mother broke command with Rob
Honestly, I kind of have to disagree about Sansa being more Tully than Stark. Sure, she has her mother diplomatic and social graces but in personality, especially in the books but I assume a lot of you have only watched the shows, she is her father’s daughter.
Riverlands, the Poland of Westeros
So true
More like Germany in my opinion
@@alejandroalba9410 Germany instigated the wars. Definitely more like Poland.
@@jaypob No historically germany has been the battlefield of thousands of years of european wars. The paradigm that germany is an aggressor and that Poland is "stuck in the middle" is only from the last 150 years or so. Germany is even famous for its rivers and the Hapsburgs, a family that ruled much of germany for centuries and secured power through marriages.
@@williamkrause5831 I don't think that Germany was the one stuck between other major 2 world's powers wars.
Why pay for HBO when you can just watch ScreenPrism do the hard work and analysis for you?
Because the new episodes won’t air on screen prism...
TN NG ikr lmao
I feel like Edmure isn't the last Tully, Sansa is, even if she doesn't carry the name. The Battle of the Bastard really highlights her Tully ability to make alliances. This video makes me miss Catelyn. Sure she's not perfect, but she's been my favourite character in the books/series.
What was your reaction when she died?
Lord edmure has a son as well
@@guitarherops31 I knew it was coming in the tv show, but nothing prepares you for that last scream. I'm still heartbroken over it! hah
@@theyoungwolf9852 Oh right, that is true! Being raised by a Frey. I wonder if we will see him in the final season!
J D I feel you. I’m not that type of person to get emotional during movies/tv shows, but The Red Wedding caught me completely by surprise; when I heard Catelyn utter the words “my first son! - let him go” I broke inside. I knew at that moment they were not going to make it.
Catlyn is the most underrated character by far. What a great character and powerful actress...her cry at the end of the red wedding is one of the most haunting performances in TV history
Wholeheartedly agree
Catelyn, like Ned, was naive to think all houses would value honor above self interests.
Honor is sometimes worthless and this old times. In real life medieval nobles didn't care about the poor unlike today's UK"s monarchy does charity support and cares about the people. Nobles only cared about what is best for their families best interests, and the honor and prestigious of their House.
Ned wasnt naive, he valued honor, yeah. But he didnt expect others to do so
@Evowill The Frey were gonna backstabb no matter what even if robb went along, the frey were not good on anything but backstabbing. Stark/Tully were losing since renly died and stannis got no other major back up.
@Evowill Look up House Frey were gonna beterye Robb stark, even if he married them. This is also confirmed by GRRM
books from Windblown could you link George saying this? Walker betrayed the Starks because Robb slighted him and because he had power to gain by betraying. If a Frey had married Robb, Walder would have had less to gain and less motivation to undermine Robb.
Despite her treatment of Jon i strangely like Catelyn. She made many mistakes but she's loyal, fierce and protective of her kin. She's amazing but also flawed like every human.
@Birdie94 its not strange she is amazing
She's my favourite character!
How can we not love a character who's last words were "No, no, don't cut my hair. Ned loves my hair" when in reality her throat was slashed 😢❤❤❤
Cat taught her children they are wolves and the pack survives when they stick together
By what right does fish educate a wolf?
No she didn't. She neglected two of them to rush off and play politics getting herself and her son killed.
Robb got himself killed
Riley Barker She lied to him and coddled his childish decisions that led to his death
@@Crescentknight8189 or listened to him or heeded his decisions as "king" or contributed any council of worth or meaning.
Catelyn’s tale is the true tragedy of the whole story
Nikola Vekic 100% and I think it’s because the actress was so mesmerizing and natural beautiful for the look . That we are all like oh ok girl
Sad truth of Game of Thrones
The greatest and most respected houses suffer the most in the conflict.
The show is wrapped around the fall of great Houses.
Kind of like in history
Great houses, powers and empires rise and fall
And yet, Lannisters still stay.
@@katearcher8514 Give it the rest of the final season, things will be interesting.
Wow house Arryn AND house Tully within 48 hours?! Great work, brilliant videos!
Especially after waiting months after the last house video.
Because winter is coming to an end... They need to finish all the Great Houses...
Keep it coming with the 🔥
I feel like the house arryn video was just an extention of house tully's more negative aspects since the only arryns we see is lysa and robin, and both of them are the worst. The only good arryns are dead
This analysis just makes me more angry they didn’t go the route of Lady Stoneheart in the show. Waste of a great character and amazing actress
Don't forget that tv CAN'T do everything a book can. It takes a LOT of money to make a tv show, especially one with all the special effects Game of Thrones has. There are too many things in the book that is important to the story, but some have to be sacrificed for the even bigger things. They probably could have done Lady Stoneheart, but then we may not have gotten the direwolves, or Faegon and not the White Walkers or the dragons.
A book or book series has almost unlimited space and resources for an epic story where you can have a thousand characters, creatures and locations, but tv and movies don't. It was probably cheaper to make the Lord of the Rings movies all together than Game of Thrones.
@@blackdragon6 And then we got the Dorne plot on the show....
i will never understand why they didn’t include stoneheart. if i was running this show, that’d be the #1 thing i’d make sure happened. that reveal at the end of s4 would’ve been incredible. wasted opportunity.
@Caitlyn DeAmbra i wanna see receipts for that. 🙄
@Caitlyn DeAmbra Literally the exact opposite. He answered fan questions about it at Balticon 2016 and said Lady Stoneheart was the one character he wished would've made it into the show.
Michelle Fairley was goddamn tremendous in Game of Thrones. Dinklage gets a lot of the praise and rightly so, but there were so many fantastic actors throughout the series...
Indira Verma was phenomenal too, the writers weren't actually going to involve much in later seasons but Indira Verma's acting was so great that they added Dornish plot finally.
Also Lena Headey's acting was one of it's kind.
Underrated actress still.
@@AliKhan-pb8cdToo bad they screwed up Dorne and wasted her talent.
Arya and Sansa both show their different sides of their Tully adaptability
I sometimes hate Catelyn for being naive and reckless by capturing Tyrion. But no one can deny her morals and fierce love towards her family.I love your videos. 😍
That seed was planted by no other than Baelish.
@EmtronVenger She also didn't listen to Neds instructions that would have made them losing a war impossible.
Just like the starks, love made them stupid.
@EmtronVenger Manipulating Ned? How? And the decision to bring the kids to King's Landing was absolutely bonkers.
@EmtronVenger oh that's right, I haven't read them in ages. I think she's characterized slightly better in the show. Or perhaps it's just Michelle Fairley's performance that makes me like her way more. Considering Catelyn and Ned's characters, it makes way more sense that Ned would feel an overwhelming obligation to go, and Catelyn would be against it. Since it's Ned's dedication to honor that kills him (warning Cersei and not paying Littlefinger to secure the loyalty of the knights) and Catelyn's dedication to family that kills her (setting Jaime free made them vulnerable).
In the books Catelyn is the one who pushes Ned to accept Robert's offer, precisely because it will give him power to safeguard the family. Especially as the next likely candidate was Tywin Lannister. And also it increased Sansa's chances to be queen. So she did it because she values family, precisely the opposite of the show's take. In my opinion one of the show's early mistakes.
But her children were not trouts but wolves....
Loved that line... That's why the frey marriage stategy didn't worked... Robb was more like ned... But you can see sansa was more of Tully in nature... That's why she did go with the flow... And married when she needed to... But she was also a stark... That's why she took her sweet revenge... In best served way.... 🤘🤘🤘🤘
So, all in all, Sansa has turned out to be the best outcome of Stark&Tully marriage. Robb (the way I see it) and Rickon were pure Tully, and also dead. Bran is a three-eyed raven, not of any house at all. Arya is more of a Lyanna's offspring, even if not directly. And so Sansa is the perfect heir for these two great houses. Who would've thought.
Worded it perfectly!
@@katearcher8514 sansa is short sighted and is full of selfish emmotion like cersie she even did not said their is a chance for saving reckon so you see she is selfish. She did not gained denies trust and think how dead would have swept across if sansa was queen in north.
@@katearcher8514 rickon Was a wolf
I miss Blackfish, that guy was awesome
“The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb” is the full quote. Implicating the brotherhood forged through the bloodshed of the battlefield is stronger than mere family ties. I think it’s so interesting how history has misremembered this quote until it means quite the opposite. 🤷🏼♀️
That's a possible origin for the phrase, but its only speculative.
Please do a video about House Reed! Howland, Meera and Jojen Reed belong to one of the most mysterious houses in Westeros and a staunch ally of House Stark and Lords of the Neck. Some theories also postulate that they may have the blood of the Children of the Forest in them.
Yes, House Reed please
But is there enough source material to do it though? We have bits of Jogen and Meera, and young Howland in a flashback. Most would have to come from the books.
@@MADGUNSMONSTER They didn't have much for House Arryn, but they still managed perfectly fine.
Plus, I believe HBO has a Histories and Lore for House Reed.
Shortcake07 the starks do to
Sansa has the most progressive and yet so subtle character development in the Show. From being a naive lady to the Queen of the North. She's closely observed (and learned) from Cersei, Olenna, Margaery, Tyrion, Bolton and Peter.
I always thought Catlyn was the best character in the entire book series. Not my favorite, but still the best. She is so well written, so believable and real, like you could pull her straight out of the pages
True, and we'll developed too.
If you think about it, it's Catelyn's biggest strength that's also her downfall. She loves and is so devoted to the concept of 'family', it also leaves her vulnerable to these same people. She thought Petyr to be as close as family to her, and hence believed him completely, never once doubting him. which is what caused all the ensuing bloodshed.
House Tully is a tragic house to say the least. Despite their times trying to go with the flow and trying to survive, they are still caught and devoured by others. There's one left, yes, but I don't know how well his story will go since he handed Riverrun to House Lannister. (Could you do one on House Clegane?)
In the books, Blackfish isn't dead yet, so at least 2 Tully's are left.
Edmures wife is pregnant and she is praying for a girl to keep him alive. And I think he does get Riverrun back
@@brennabrodbeck5183 They screwed his story up in the last season.
@@lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385 fair
Out of all the Stark children, Sansa’s the one who mirrors the Tully qualities. It makes sense because even her poster for Season 8 pays homage to her mother’s sigil.
"Intimidating trout". Now that's not a phrase you hear every day. Or ever.......
After he refused the marriage and fell out with his brother he became the black sheep of the family, and people joked that made him the blackfish in an attempt to mock him, he then took a blackfish as his personal sigil and ambraced the title
@@tomtom21194 never forget who you are, the rest of the world won't. Wear it like armour and then it can never be used to hurt you.
Got slapped by a freaking trout in the face.
I wish you talked more about how Sansa has true Tally in her. Due to her hair, her interest in strategically marrying fast to Joffrey, her being captured and so being out of the water in in between places, and the arranged marriages she falls into
If only they'd listened to Catelyn. Ned, Robb, and the Baratheons would be alive and Bran wouldn't be crippled.
I mean, she sort of started the war by capturing Tyrion on the word of Littlefinger and then practically lost it by giving Jaime away. Her recklessness destroyed her family, her kingdom, and almost her house. Her counsel could've prevented a few setbacks but ultimately don't outweigh the consequences of her poor decisions.
@@seanpotts5252 Littlefinger?
THIS GUY Yeah littlefinger told her that the assassin’s dagger was Tyrion’s which is what led to him being arrested on Cats order, causing Tywin to start raiding the riverlands. Her only initial evidence was the word of the most conniving, dishonorable person in Westeros
@@seanpotts5252 Sure thing. BUT... He was the one who lied. It was his dagger. Who is responsible? The liar or the one who was lied to? True, your reaction to a problem is just as important as the problem itself but Littlefinger is one of the greatest players in the game. Who can blame Catelyn for trusting someone who genuinely loves her?
THIS GUY I never said Catelyn was more culpable than Littlefinger, I said Catelyns decisions were horribly detrimental to everything and everyone she held dear. It’s silly to say things like “if only they listened to cat” when her judgment cost them the war. Regardless, you’ll never hear me argue that littlefinger wasn’t the one who caused basically everything but it was also up to cat to not fall into his traps and she failed miserably
Even though he barely got any screen time, the Black Fish is one of my favorite characters.
Agree!
I love how Sansa and Arya really embody the Tully love of family. They defend their family so much. They also embody the importance of the pack surviving during winter. It’s such a good combination. One thing we admire of the Starks comes from how much they value family and a lot of that comes from Catelyn as a Tully.
It’s unfortunate we don’t see their influence more in the series through their strong genes. In the books, all the Stark kids except for Arya have the Tully look.
Amazing analysis like always!
Kinda expected after the House Arryn video.
Marvelous content, as usual :))
I feel like the Tullys have the best words as their family's motto: Family, Duty, Honor
"Bodies go South; bones return North; and the North remembers" I love how this quote sums up so much of the history of this world.
catelyn is so underrated! i have always been fond of her (and michelle fairley deserved more recognition for her performance).
Still bummed the blackfish is gone.
Hope we see edmure
Alan M Jolly if it makes u feel better in the books he actually escapes the siege of Riverrun but has gone missing
No one is dead until you see them die. And even then it is less than certain.
@@chimpinaneckbrace
True but In the show the blackfish is dead
@@sosa2mars
That's good 😊
Uncle, sit down
A double whammy of game of thrones is a suprise but a welcome one for sure
I cried my heart out when they killed Catelyn Stark. I understand her action to protect all her children.
These game of thrones breakdowns are wonderful! I hope there is still more? Thank you!
House Tully is so underrated I hope we get to see Edmure take back Rivverrun and help his nieces and nephews in the North and especially with every major battle taking place in the Riverlands the Knight King may take his troops there while he heads South.
Edmures redemption to Robb
@@alanmike6883 What do you mean by redemption to Robb? Edmure doesn't have to redeem himself he never betrayed Robb he married someone for his sake if we're being honest and he really didn't have to do that for him since Robb was supposed to marry Roslin Fray not him but he did what was asked of him. He wasn't apart of that betrayal and it wouldn't make sense for him to be cause Cat was his sister and the Riverlands his home.
Robb did screw up right there indeed.
He even didn't explain his plans properly to Ed.
And Ed did what stuck between a rock and a hard place.
He saw his people attacked so he defended them.
Now if Robb was just a Commander then it would be understandable Ed understandable mistake.
Even with the best of intentions.
But Robb was a king and Ed king at that and though Robb himself mucked up it was still a order from a king to a subject lord.
Do not attack the mountain.
As such both men were in the wrong. Both messed up.
But from that one action changed everything.
As it allowed tywin to retreat and eventually align with the reach and race to relieve kings landing
@@alanmike6883 Robb never told Edmure of his plans that was his own fault and it didn't cause Robb's downfall that was losing Jamie a huge bargaining chip, beheading Rickard Karstark and losing half his army so he couldn't fight Tywin in open battle anymore and then not marrying Roslin so the Frays betrayed them at the Red Wedding. If Robb had the Karstarks he wouldn't have needed the Frays armies and if he had Jamie Tywin wouldn't have tried that cause Jamie would've died to.
Finally Catelyn gets some attention. The show has all the Stark children forgetting they had TWO parents guiding them.
ikr? in the books, the stark kids think about cat and robb as much as they think of ned.
The Tully red on the sigil is mud red, so maybe it suggests their auburn hair, their closeness to the river, and the fact that they are dilligent builders, especially in regard to marriage alliances.
I believe the actor who plays Edmure has been listed for 8x01. I think Jaime might free him on his way to Winterfell.
I'm excited! I love the actor who plays Edmure. Hope to see him redeem himself and bring order back the House Tully.
Yes, can't wait to see him in The Crown!!
@@mahasouici6252 I haven't watched that so I need to catch up before the next season!
That would be an interesting parallel to when catelyn freed Jaimie
Maha Souici I thought the same thing. We haven't seen the last of him....
Edmure has Harrenhal torn down to repair the Riverlands and uses the stone from it to repair burned or damaged castles, or expands them and builds some sorts of chokepoints to help defend the Riverlands in case another war happens, possibly near the Trident's fords and some chokepoints along the borders so the Riverlands don't get so easily invaded next time
Coming back to this after Edmure's ill-advised bid to be King of Westeros 😂
"Uncle, please sit" lol
Love the Tullys, and specially Catelyn! Such a great character, probably my favorite
4:52 I always forget that about Catelyn’s last moments. Her cry of anguish when Robb is killed is not just for him. It’s for the entire male line she believes is wiped out.
The Tully’s started losing big time when “Family Duty and Honor” stopped mattering in Westeros.
The Tullys are the Habsburgs of Westeros. "Let others wage war; but you, happy Austria, marry!"
Maria Theresa, known as mother-in-law of Europe 😏
As a middle child I didn't think about House Tully being so, but I do see this now. Very true! Your videos are always great to watch, and the Game of Thrones videos are the most addicting.
Remember Trout also swim upstream to mate, persistent to the last
Still astounding at the amount of work that goes into these. Catelyn has always been one of my favourite characters so this is especially good
I Always Love your analysis for a song of ice and fire, but I have to disagree this time. Maybe in the series she tells Ned to stay home, but in the books Cat is the one pressuring him to go and be hand of the king and giving sansa in to marriage to joffrey. This and the pragmatism that all the Tully show during the time we know them, by forming alliances with marriage tells me more that they are actually the ambicius type, kind of like the tyrrels.
Still, continue with the great job you always do
Trout are distinct in that they swim upstream to return to their origins to spawn and then die.
DO HOUSE REED YO!!! Please and thank you!
I need to know about the Mudmen yo! So bad!
This is another good analysis. I especially like how it highlights Catelyn Stark wisdom and prophetic advice. She's the only Tully we've gotten the chance to get to know well during the series and she is the embodiment of the house's values. A
The logic and sense for these symbols and colors are put together well.
The coolest part is that i didn't even know the Tully were a house or kingdom.
More game of thrones content?! I'm in heaven.
The more i wish i was strong enough to survive in this horrible world.
I love this series. The in depth look into the Tully’s was amazing!
This might actually be my absolute favorite Game of Thrones video on TH-cam. You did an amazing job as always. The Take is awesome. :)
This is so well done! I enjoyed every second :) Thank you
Thanks for putting these out so consistently, thay are all quality videos
You posted this right when I was rewatching your other vids ^^
I hope you guys continue to make these videos. They offer so much to the viewer, thought provoking and insightful, you just get pulled in from beginning to end. Love all your Game Of Thrones videos. House Stark, House Targaryen and House Tyrell were my favs now I can add this to the lot!
In book one, it was Catelyn who ultimately convinced Ned to be Robert's Hand while Ned has decided to refuse. She regretted it very much later because it's as if she sent her husband and daughters to death's door.
Thank you so much for these amazing breakdowns! Definitely thought provoking and even poetic! Awesome stuff!
This channel deserves much more! You guys are amazing! Keep up with the good work
In the books Cat convinces Ned to become Hand when he wants to refuse. Wonder why they reversed it in the show
You guys make seriously great content. Very thorough and insightful I very much appreciate it.
Really loving these GoT Symbolism videos recently!
Phenomenal breakdown as always! I always love watching your videos, you guys always put a different perspective than what I originally notice this is just getting me more excited for Game of Thrones and I can’t wait for that! Keep it up!⚔️🐺🖤💯🙌🏽🐉❄️
12:38 „and the Tully are skilled negotiators“….
- sells off her first born son for a bridge passage which leads to the red wedding.
Robb didn't keep the promise he had made to Walder Frey. He had accepted the bargain.
Aye! Tis a fine analysis of the best of the houses!
Ive rewatched some of your GOT and Harry Potter Videos so many times 😅 I love your vids.
And even though the Tully’s are not my favorite house they have my favourite words.
The phrase "blood is thicker than water" originally meant "the blood of the battlefield is thicker than the water of the womb" but with the way the phrase is commonly used nowadays, "family is more important than friendship" it works for house Tully.
P.S. I loved this video and learned/remembered more about the Tullys than I imagined I ever would :p
Your videos are getting me hyped now for S8
I love your breakdowns of GoT houses. This channel is very good.
Catelyn was the one who actually persuaded Ned to go to kingslanding in the books before later regretting it after brand fall :)
been binge watching these videos before s8 and i love your content!!! 💗
It’s an actual disgrace that this Channel is only at 600k this is honestly the best channel on TH-cam every upload no matter what it is . It’s so well worked and I’m buzzing everytime there’s an upload especially these GOT videos x
Great work.
Love your videos
I really enjoyed watching this video!
Love the house videos! You all always do a great job with these videos! :)
You should do a video about Daenerys :)
Thank you so so much for doing these Game of Thrones videos. I love the Tully's and the Arryn's. Hoster Tully and Jon Arryn were two complicated men. Please do some more. Please also think about doing the Buffyverse.
Awesome as always
Love your insight into the characters of aGOT compared to other youtube sessions.
These are outstandingly good videos!
I need more of these!!!!
Back to Back videos. Y’all on fire
I love these House Symbols videos!
I am getting my LIFEEEE from this back to back GoT content 😩😩😩🔥🔥🔥
I am new to this channel but I really like what you are doing here.
Catelyn was my favourite character. What I would aspire to be
My favourite house :3
I’ve been waiting years for this video!!
Tully was my favorite house from the books. It echos the morals I personally believe in, and Catelyn-Lady Stoneheart is one of my favorite characters.
Absolutely love this. It would be great to have Houses Reed, Frey and maybe Clegane to finish this series, but you do what you want to do. 🤗