Since the release of the initial DP-24, I’ve been waiting for a unit like Studio Bridge from Tascam. I believe it may be time for me to trade-up! I wanted to breakdown and analyze this unit for myself, and also share the results with anyone interested. I hope this presentation serves useful.
Dude,,, so stoked you’re back. I’ve been getting into your incredibly insightful videos the past couple months and was bummed when your last upload was a year ago haha, welcome back man
I have a DP 32sd and studio one and a 20u effect rack for recording on the way in If I’m recording livemusicans I use a tascam us 16x8 and that gives me 16 in and 8 out and with a 16 channel snake it gives me enough inputs to get the bulk of the song with one take and I use the direct out for no latency recording and for the mix stage I have a stereo drum bus out stereo keyboard/guitar bus out stereo background vocals out mono bass out and a mono lead vocal out and I record them to the DP 32 with compression and EQ on the way in and then I add delays and reverb and master on the DP 32 and with final eq and multi band compression if needed so I have three 24 point patch bays and I have routings for the DP 32 my us 16x8 and all my preamps, compressors and effect units So I wanted to like the new tascam but I think I’d be losing some things I need because the us 16x8 has 5 pin midi in and out This is not a flex because I have lots of entry level gear but I’m proud of what I can do with it but you have to start somewhere and so far my wife hasn’t complained about all the purchases 😅
Wav files will soon use up 512mb fast. Can you upgrade the memory because I don't like being in a position when it comes to deleting if I run out of space before I get home to my studio. How's this going to make me choose between taking a laptop with a multi input interface with a 1TB of hard disc?
It’s GB not MB. 24bit 48khz is about 9mb per minute. Using all 24 channels you should be able to record 40 hours. Just one track of 24bit 48khz is 1,000 hours.
I'm confused about something.. At some point you say we can record 10 tracks at a time.. But what about 24 simultaneous I/O? Is that valid only for playback? Can't I record more than 10 tracks at a time? Any difference on that regard between stand alone and audio interface modes? If you can clarify it quickly it would be much appreciated, sir. Thanks for the review :)
I was wondering about this too. Based on my research to date it does look to be limited to 10 tracks simultaneous recording. Still a nice feature set. I loved the workflow on my FW1824 (No direct recording and A/D conversion was lacking) this could be a great option but I’d like to be able to expand a bit more with ADAT directly without having to go with another converter. But, in a synth heavy situation I could see this being a great option. Good price point too. 48K is good enough for me.
@@trebleboost7 Indeed an ADAT expansion would be a nice add-on to expand to 32 I/O.. would fit perfectly my Allen & Heat console, which has direct outs for each channel. I find the 10 track simultaneous recording a bit frustrating though. On an overdub recording scenario it would be enough for most situations, yet it could lack inputs if you have a slightly larger drum setup for instance.. and it looks quite limiting if you had let say, a whole band running through a console and wish to multi track record it. To be honest I'm struggling to get my head around this 24 inputs but limited to 10 track simultaneous recording. What can you do with the remaining 14 inputs while toppling the 10 track limit? Another thing I find a bit lame is not having separate monitor and headphone outputs.. Otherwise, I'm in love with the concept and I am really looking forward to where this is going.. I'm good with 48KHz too.. only once in my life I've recorded above that and I found it to be more hassling that advantageous.
@@1176hambone thanks for the info. That's good to know, it wasn't really making sense to have 24 inputs but be limited to 10 at a time. Although I still find a bit strange the limitation as you clarified. At least not a deal breaker.. hopefully we can still manually punch in and perhaps a future firmware update may fix this weird limitation.
@@silviotavares771 Hopefully, Tascam is just testing the market for stand-alone recording systems, and perhaps they will come out with an overall improved version. I doubt the limitation is software based. It's likely the cost of the analog audio switching circuitry and limited real estate on the circuit board.
It looks like a good idea, but every single Tascam device I've bought has become discontinued in a very short period or obsolete due to bad or non-updated drivers. 😠
As an owner of a Tascam model 24, I see this Studio Bridge as not very useful, since the Tascam 24 also has Eq, compressor and onboard effects, the Bridge is more for those whose mixers cannot record. Plus it looks more portable than the Tascam Model 24 definitely.
I can't be the only one ..who not only doesn't like or want daw ..hate that you need an AI to use them ..PLUS A controller keyboard..AND a controller keyboard controller controller .. I prefer plugging straight on up into a 32 track recorder like the dp32 even with the SD card . Now they've removed the midi in and out ...and replaced them with thousands of more bucks for gear. Being a ONE MAN SHOW HERE I don't need 32 freaking mic pres .32 in and outs .. midi in out through and one or two mic xlrs would suffice.
I love the concept but the actual device is bizarre. Who's going to pay $999 for this? You could almost get an AudioFuse 16Rig or a Fireface or a used Apollo. It can't compete with modern interfaces, so that must mean it's primarily a recorder. But it can't compete with modern recorders, either. There's no 32-bit float. There's no SDXC support and no way to hot-swap cards, so you've got a hard limit of 2.5 hours recording time. If it's really suppoed to be a "studio bridge" I would expect it to do some routing and have zero-latancy monitoring. Almost the entire console is just those input/mon/rec buttons. What exactly is the intended workflow? Do you really need to toggle between analog/USB input constantly? The mon buttons are ridiculously ambiguous. I'm really having trouble thinking of when this device would be the correct tool for a job. It's not portable. It's like they took a mixer and removed the faders, EQ, and almost everything else, yet it's still big and confusing/complex.
It's confusing to you because you may have never used a mixer with direct outs in a setup that would be similar to using tape. I'm interested in it because it opens the door for me to load in tracks from a DAW and mix using a console. I can do all my mixing using my outboard and console and record the tracks back to studio bridge and not be tied into a DAW during this process. This workflow is not for everyone and is only my example of how I would use studio bridge.
Since the release of the initial DP-24, I’ve been waiting for a unit like Studio Bridge from Tascam. I believe it may be time for me to trade-up! I wanted to breakdown and analyze this unit for myself, and also share the results with anyone interested. I hope this presentation serves useful.
I think it would be a lateral move, not really an upgrade
Dude,,, so stoked you’re back. I’ve been getting into your incredibly insightful videos the past couple months and was bummed when your last upload was a year ago haha, welcome back man
Glad to be back, and more to come! Thanks so much for watching, and for your support. It's appreciated.
Finally a proper digital multi track recorder!
👏👏Thank you for the amazing video as always 🎉
Thanks for watching. It's appreciated.
Nice, but to be usable there is only one spec that really matters to me: what is the (round trip) latency of the USB audio interface?
So how can i hook up all my synths? Do i still need an external mixer with this?
I have a DP 32sd and studio one and a 20u effect rack for recording on the way in
If I’m recording livemusicans I use a tascam us 16x8 and that gives me 16 in and 8 out and with a 16 channel snake it gives me enough inputs to get the bulk of the song with one take and I use the direct out for no latency recording and for the mix stage I have a stereo drum bus out stereo keyboard/guitar bus out stereo background vocals out mono bass out and a mono lead vocal out and I record them to the DP 32 with compression and EQ on the way in and then I add delays and reverb and master on the DP 32 and with final eq and multi band compression if needed so I have three 24 point patch bays and I have routings for the DP 32 my us 16x8 and all my preamps, compressors and effect units
So I wanted to like the new tascam but I think I’d be losing some things I need because the us 16x8 has 5 pin midi in and out
This is not a flex because I have lots of entry level gear but I’m proud of what I can do with it but you have to start somewhere and so far my wife hasn’t complained about all the purchases 😅
Wav files will soon use up 512mb fast. Can you upgrade the memory because I don't like being in a position when it comes to deleting if I run out of space before I get home to my studio.
How's this going to make me choose between taking a laptop with a multi input interface with a 1TB of hard disc?
It’s GB not MB. 24bit 48khz is about 9mb per minute. Using all 24 channels you should be able to record 40 hours. Just one track of 24bit 48khz is 1,000 hours.
How does it sound???
Can recorded data be moved via SD card from the Tascam dp24 to the computer, then from the computer to the Tascam 2488neo?
I doubt that very much. The audio needs to be on the card in such a format, it won't import unless recorded on same model.
When they make this at 96k, all 24 channels at 96k, ill buy one.
Add also 24 channel punch in , nor just 10 at once. Strange limitation.
I'm confused about something.. At some point you say we can record 10 tracks at a time.. But what about 24 simultaneous I/O? Is that valid only for playback? Can't I record more than 10 tracks at a time? Any difference on that regard between stand alone and audio interface modes? If you can clarify it quickly it would be much appreciated, sir. Thanks for the review :)
I was wondering about this too. Based on my research to date it does look to be limited to 10 tracks simultaneous recording. Still a nice feature set. I loved the workflow on my FW1824 (No direct recording and A/D conversion was lacking) this could be a great option but I’d like to be able to expand a bit more with ADAT directly without having to go with another converter. But, in a synth heavy situation I could see this being a great option. Good price point too. 48K is good enough for me.
@@trebleboost7 Indeed an ADAT expansion would be a nice add-on to expand to 32 I/O.. would fit perfectly my Allen & Heat console, which has direct outs for each channel. I find the 10 track simultaneous recording a bit frustrating though. On an overdub recording scenario it would be enough for most situations, yet it could lack inputs if you have a slightly larger drum setup for instance.. and it looks quite limiting if you had let say, a whole band running through a console and wish to multi track record it. To be honest I'm struggling to get my head around this 24 inputs but limited to 10 track simultaneous recording. What can you do with the remaining 14 inputs while toppling the 10 track limit? Another thing I find a bit lame is not having separate monitor and headphone outputs.. Otherwise, I'm in love with the concept and I am really looking forward to where this is going.. I'm good with 48KHz too.. only once in my life I've recorded above that and I found it to be more hassling that advantageous.
I believe it refers to Auto Punch-In of 10 simultaneous tracks. Otherwise you can record all 24.
@@1176hambone thanks for the info. That's good to know, it wasn't really making sense to have 24 inputs but be limited to 10 at a time. Although I still find a bit strange the limitation as you clarified. At least not a deal breaker.. hopefully we can still manually punch in and perhaps a future firmware update may fix this weird limitation.
@@silviotavares771 Hopefully, Tascam is just testing the market for stand-alone recording systems, and perhaps they will come out with an overall improved version. I doubt the limitation is software based. It's likely the cost of the analog audio switching circuitry and limited real estate on the circuit board.
It looks like a good idea, but every single Tascam device I've bought has become discontinued in a very short period or obsolete due to bad or non-updated drivers. 😠
As an owner of a Tascam model 24, I see this Studio Bridge as not very useful, since the Tascam 24 also has Eq, compressor and onboard effects, the Bridge is more for those whose mixers cannot record. Plus it looks more portable than the Tascam Model 24 definitely.
I can't be the only one ..who not only doesn't like or want daw ..hate that you need an AI to use them ..PLUS A controller keyboard..AND a controller keyboard controller controller ..
I prefer plugging straight on up into a 32 track recorder like the dp32 even with the SD card . Now they've removed the midi in and out ...and replaced them with thousands of more bucks for gear. Being a ONE MAN SHOW HERE I don't need 32 freaking mic pres .32 in and outs .. midi in out through and one or two mic xlrs would suffice.
Thanks so much for watching and sharing.
A 32 channels version would be better or even 48 channels.
I love the concept but the actual device is bizarre. Who's going to pay $999 for this? You could almost get an AudioFuse 16Rig or a Fireface or a used Apollo. It can't compete with modern interfaces, so that must mean it's primarily a recorder. But it can't compete with modern recorders, either. There's no 32-bit float. There's no SDXC support and no way to hot-swap cards, so you've got a hard limit of 2.5 hours recording time.
If it's really suppoed to be a "studio bridge" I would expect it to do some routing and have zero-latancy monitoring. Almost the entire console is just those input/mon/rec buttons. What exactly is the intended workflow? Do you really need to toggle between analog/USB input constantly? The mon buttons are ridiculously ambiguous. I'm really having trouble thinking of when this device would be the correct tool for a job. It's not portable. It's like they took a mixer and removed the faders, EQ, and almost everything else, yet it's still big and confusing/complex.
It's confusing to you because you may have never used a mixer with direct outs in a setup that would be similar to using tape. I'm interested in it because it opens the door for me to load in tracks from a DAW and mix using a console. I can do all my mixing using my outboard and console and record the tracks back to studio bridge and not be tied into a DAW during this process. This workflow is not for everyone and is only my example of how I would use studio bridge.
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I like how the comment was edited but is still just all-caps nonsense.
Thanks for this post. Well done…😎💯🫡