Being Gay in Poland
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- This video gives a brief glimpse of my life as a gay man living in Poland. More prudently, it highlights the country’s stance on LGBT individuals, their rights, and inclusion in society.
I would like to thank everyone that has been fighting for LGBTQIA+ rights and visibility here in Poland.
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People in poland stare at each other in general, this is our known flaw. And if you're black person, it's definitely more so
Yeah, we are just afraid to start conversation and in our culture it's rather strange to smile to strangers. So we just stare... I'm like this a little bit too. But I'm just curious and like to watch beautiful people
@@krzysztofcwanek1996 yes, I also have exactly as you described with this looking and talking to pepole :)
Fortunately this view is changing ..... young people are more open.... and discrimination was, is, and will be in every part of the world no matter who you are, straight, gay, bi, white, black, orange .... etc... there will be always someone who doesn't respect others ....
Orange??
I recently discovered your channel, and I think it's fascinating. I myself am a mixed-race (Polish ancestry; visibly black) and queer person, and I had always assumed that I would never be welcome in Poland. Very happy to hear that that's not the case 😊
Even being in the US and being white, I really resonated with how you said you never signed up to be an ambassador for your minority, I have had to speak on behalf of the entire queer community countless times. And I’m glad we can be good examples but I wish it wasn’t this way
Such is not fair, but it is reality. And some days you just want to live your life and blend into the background. But, what power is there in representing the under-representative by merely existing as your true and authentic self ! The key for me is creating a balance and carefully choosing my battles ( which I don't always get right). Thank you for sharing.
Poland is very backward in this respect. I was afraid your experience was much worse, but still far from good. I keep my fingers crossed for the rights of LGBT+ people to develop in Poland.
I am very impressed with your civil courage. I believe it was very difficult to shoot this video.
Yeah, very backward : "A transgender player who played for one of the teams hit the ball hard, and it hit the girl right in the head. It is reported that the athlete received serious head and neck injuries, which caused a concussion. The girl also had vision problems. She still has not received permission to return to the site from the attending physician and neurologist."
@@antekp2965 ale to Ty dzwonisz
@@Kamila.k co Ty bredzisz?
@@antekp2965 Yes, you are very backward. That thing you commented on, has zero relevancy. Its also a random quote, can't be trusted.
National Health Service (NHS) w Szkocji - brytyjski odpowiednik naszego Narodowego Funduszu Zdrowia przesłał tamtejszej premier, Nicoli Sturgeon wytyczne, by w całym systemie opieki zdrowotnej wyeliminować słowo „kobieta”. Według szkockich urzędników od medycyny sprawia ono, że „społeczność trans” może czuć się wykluczona i nie mieć śmiałości korzystać z opieki medycznej.
It is interesting that you think you need to "show children that you can be different." You don't appear effeminate to a Polish eye and, in the Polish culture, it goes without saying that people are different, even if meeting someone gay can be startling (conservative culture, as you put it yourself). And BTW, "LGBT free zone" photos were a hoax (I don't know if there are any English language sources for that). Good presentation!
Very interesting topic, thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for sharing 🪴
I’m considering moving back to Poland from the UK but this is the only topic that makes me hesitant.
Are you a homosexual Polock?
I guess the society`s difficulty of accepting queer people resides on religiosity (I mean the abrahamic religions, like Christianity, Judaism and Islamism), where not being straight is considerable a "sin" or "abomination". Poland, for example, is one of the most catholic countries in Europe. Slovakia, for example, doesn`t accept gay marriage and it`s a conservative country. But you have to consider that Slovakia has Catholicism as the official religion of the State. The same resistance you will find in all countries which population is more religious. Unfortunately, sometimes faith is used to put people aside when it should be inclusive. I hope the younger generations bring a new breath to society and make it more opened to respect the differences.
I don't understand why gays would want to legalize same-sex marriage if it's a symbol of an outdated religion. I am not a Christian and I do not demand changes in Christian doctrine that I would like to see. I also don't like the law on marriages in Poland (e.g. alimony for ex-spouses even if they don't have children) and that's why I'm not going to get married
@@antekp2965 GAY PEOPLE, not gays. You don't understand why two people would want to marry? You don't know of all the social benefits that come with it? You don't understand because you are under the impression marriage is due to Christianity, it isn't. Marriage predates Christianity. Anything you are confused about?
@@antekp2965 You have a wrong understanding, in my point of view. No one is wishing to marry at the church but just to have the SAME rights any other citizen has. Why would be fair to deny some rights (like marriage or civil union) to a citizen? In any civilized society, equality is a must. To deny such rights based only on sexuality or based in religious reasons is unacceptable.
@Régis Pessôa. I do agree that religion in general has made life difficult for 2SLGBTQIA+ people globally. However, we are part of the natural diversity that exists within our species. And it is time that we and all humans have the right to genuinely be ourselves. Thank you for your comment!
Interesting to hear your experience. By the way, I wonder which city you live in Poland?
I'm gay person of color, but gender expression wise I do not look different from any straight man. When I'm in bars in some countries I have reached up to random guys (without knowing they are gay, straight , or in between) and expressed my interest respectfully. I wonder would that be safe in Poland?
I know you don't have the answer, but just asking your rough opinion.
I'm in Gliwice. I have never felt comfortable expressing my interest in public ( the same is true even when I was in the USA). But, I'm sure that such is not a problem in big cities like Warsaw or Krakow.
Thank you so much for your video. It has shed a lot of insight into being black and gay in POLAND.
My part is first generation Polish American and I myself am a bi Black Male.
We will be visiting in a couple months, me for the first time. I have traveled abroad my whole life. I am gathering information so I know how to "move" when we arrive.
I am truly looking forward to coming, but have also seen some things that concern me. But regardless, I still want to visit this country. Thanks again. Any feedback is appreciated.
Poland is a very safe place, and so is Europe as a whole. In general when traveling I use the same rules as I would in the USA.
Respecting local customs and laws, being mindful of your surroundings, and staying aware of your belongings are always important.
Poland's LGBTQ+ scene is growing, especially in larger cities like Warsaw, Krakow, and Gdansk which tend to have more diverse and inclusive spaces, while rural areas might be less progressive.
Google Maps can be an incredibly useful tool. Search for LGBTQ+ bars, cafes, restaurants, and clubs in the cities you'll be visiting. These places are often safe spaces where you can meet like-minded individuals and feel comfortable being yourself.It's always a good idea to research local attitudes in the specific areas you plan to visit, as this can help you navigate your trip with confidence.
I believe that approaching your visit with an open mind and positive attitude will lead to a rewarding experience. Embrace the opportunity to share your unique background and learn from others, fostering a spirit of acceptance and inclusion.
If you encounter any challenges or have specific questions during your visit, don't hesitate to reach out for help or support. Remember that each person's experience can differ, and by sharing your journey, you can help others gain valuable insights too.
Wishing you an incredible and enriching trip to Poland! Enjoy the journey, the people, the culture, and the moments that will shape your understanding of this beautiful country. Safe travels! 🌈🇵🇱
@@peterholmanwashington Is there a groups, contact points that would be helpful in Poland? A community area etc?
I had no idea about civil unions non existent there at all. Wow!
So difficult to watch as guy doesn't even know whether he is talking about.
Hey, thank you for your voice. I'm glad that your experience is good and I assure you that everyones experience is also good, there are just people who can't stand it and love to play a victim. No one is excluded from anything in Poland. LGBT free zones are fabricated by a gay individual. This guy travels around Poland, puts those signs, takes photos and wine about it. They don't exist. Discrimination of gay people doesn't exist, the reports are very often just fake news. Polish people like to mind their business and respect that in others too.
Technically you could adopt a child as a single person, it's not impossible or not allowed. Although families have the priority and even they wait for years, because there are not as many children that can be adopted, most of them have a complicated legal situation.
Gay people in Poland are not excluded, they can work wherever they like to work as long as they are competent. No one will ask about their preferences and as long as they do their job - they're fine. Just like everyone else.
I think that your passion about being a representation means something and maybe this is why you are here. I'd like that idea, because you are very polite, likeable, respectful and intelligent. Your comminity needs someone like you, because unfortunatelly today the voice goes to people who are rude and hateful especially towards Christians. They often disturb ceremonies. They come into church, lay on the flor, are loud, destroy monuments with paint etc. Their "pride" event often is just mocking christianity and parody of a mass, they create theater plays where they use a cross, Jesus, our pope John Paul II and mock them freely. They do all this and don't even face any charges.
This is the voice of gay people in Poland. Do you think it does the job? Do you accept this? What I want to belive is that those hateful individuals are not supported by others but in fact - there is silence. And by being silent you (lgbt comminity) allow them to be your voice and your representation.
I would like someone like you to be this voice instead. You seem open to speak as well as to listen. You don't demand, you shine with your personality. You don't preach, you let people see. Just have your eyes open, there are liars out there, there are fake news all over the place, don't let them fool you. Check your facts. It will make your voice stronger.
Thank you, thank you and thank you for your kind words.... For the last few months I have been silent... your words have put a fire under my feet. :)
Peter learn Polish asap that way you know what people are saying and you can reply back.
same was in my country lol...also slavic country, but pride was pushed for the first time in 2002 and since then never stoped, majority of people who back then were majority are dead or 60+ who were against it. so we who were like 18-25 back then slowly started to push things, also a lot i mean a lot of young people, including me and many my friends left country, we all went west, canada, NZ, germany, ireland, uk, norway, sweden, majority never came back, we who did, kinda were losing our minds back home, coz we were so changed living west that we slowly start to change a country, my parents are in their 60ties today, my dad almost had a heart attack at a train station when he saw 2 guys kissing ( they were in early 20ties) and he kept telling me do you see this, do you see this, out in the open and i was like what, look at them are they insane, oh that, welcome to 21 st century dad, you dont mind, no dad i dont, i lived in iceland, i lived in uk, i lived in norway dad wth is wrong with you.. if you dont like it dont watch it.. thing is poland was part of sssr and kinda isolated, then they got rid of communism and russian boot and then church took same place, same as in my country, older people were not able to travel, to meet the world, and laws were so opressing that fsince we were born we kinda were mold into fiting, or else.. so poland will change when the generational exchange is done, when young people who are working at west after many years start to come back and bring the behaviour from there, when people who ar ein their 40ties now will be in 60ie and their kids will be in 20ties. in my country today pride is something what is here every year, people got used to it, less police is needed than before, we have civil union, first gay couple just won against the state at a supreme court, state must allow them to foster and adopt. things ae mowing, slowly but they do and am glad that 20 years ago i was part of a wheels wich started the change. my own cousin is trans woman, things did not go smooth in a family, but hey we all kinda stick with her and explained some things to our parents, me and my siblings to my, her siblings to theirs. plus we had a brutal war wich personaly in my family done a lot of damage, so they kinda were rdy to go with a flow. poland will change slowly, younger people are sdifferent and religions start to loose its influence, people think more with their heads, question more etc.. socities do change and can change, my country is perfect example, things are not perfect, there is many to work on still, but comparing now and when i was 18 it is huge progress...
You are totally correct things are changing. Although I'm from the USA, I found it difficult to be openly gay in the black community. The saying: that hurt people, hurt people is so true, although a lot has changed, you find this correlation between marginalized/ oppressed people and their stance on LGBTQIA+ issues. Thank you for sharing.
Oh i deleted the comment by accident lol. anywqay lets go from start. this collaretion you are talking about opressed and being opressors towards lgbtq+, from psihological point is somehow 'expected in a toxic masculinity socities, when victim becomes a bully, showing other bullies, look at me, i am your equal, i can be tough, i am just like you normal, like majority. i do remember one thing one activists said in 2002, in online posts even thou our pride went well, police took it seriously and parade was never crashed, while in the other state it was a blood bath, will post links to see the difference how people acted and how police handeled it in both states. he said if we all gathered around in 1991 and allowed to all of them to beat us, to kill us, we would never have a war, coz hate towards us, unites them.. funny thing is he was true. all those groups wich usualy kill each others were united in one cause, to smash some fa*** heads, to show them. even in a state wich have the large numbers of mix population of all 3 ethnicites wich were in genocidal war with each others just 7 years ago prior, they were standing together and crashing queer festival, it was insane. they were hate driven, they were religiously driven and they were united, likee war never happened, while in my state and other state there was not so much mixed ethnicited, but football fan groups who usualy pull knives onto each others were united.. insane. like they just needed the common ''enemy'' here is the first pride in 2002 in my country, subs are in english.. sorry coz of the lenght of my comment, there is too many thoughts in my head running wild in a same time.. btw key to prevent all this crap is education, not just when it comes to homophobia, but also racism and xenophobia and any other phobia..
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and this is a try in a state we were in war with, this one have no english subs, but just skip the parts where is just journalist talking or making interview, you will see what to skip and what not..
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@Bored Utopia
I'm glad you mentioned the importance of age in Poland. The correlation of younger=liberal & open-minded and older=conservative & closed-minded is much, much stronger in Poland than it is in the US. The average age of PiS supporters keeps climbing as the percentage of like-minded younger people keeps dropping. The PiS is on the final leg of its race and it knows it. The only thing that might add a few years is that for once they did the right thing and refused to cave in to Russia, first with the Belarus stunt last year and now with the invasion of Ukraine.
When you keep to yourself your sexual orientation no one is going bather you. You have equal rights but not privileges. What is quire?. Places are not against LGBT they only support family as a heterosexual relationship.
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Not for long😂