Welcome back guys! Here’s my quick driving review of the 2025 Subaru Outback Wilderness. What are your thoughts? Comment below! 👇 Dealer link below 👇 www.twinfalls-...
I like that the Subaru hatches go up high, because I frequently hit my head on vehicles with hatches that don’t go high. If you want to limit how high the hatch goes, you can easily do that by pressing a little button. I think it makes more sense to have a vehicle that can go high and can be limited to any height you want; than have a vehicle that is limited to a low height.
A new version of the Baja would be great, if they did a Baja Wilderness model with some true offroad stuff like lockers, and more of a 4WD instead of AWD, or at least an AWD Lock mode they'd be onto something. I really was set on getting a Subaru Forester Wilderness, but after looking around some more, the Outback Wilderness has more ground clearance, and a bit more interior space, and a bit more power....so I may go with a Outback Wilderness in the near future.
That would be such a sweet Baja! I really enjoyed getting to own the OBW, if you do decide to go with that one as your upgrade I hope you enjoy it just as much!
I've had a 2004 and 2009 Outback. Had to trade the '09 in 2016 for a 2017 Tacoma when we bought a small travel trailer and needed a capable tow vehicle. My wife had a 2015 Outback and traded it for a 2024 Outback back in April. I no longer need the truck (95,000 trouble free miles), so will be trading up to the 2025 Outback Wilderness. Love that green color! Thanks for all of your videos! Just subbed and of course - liked.
I appreciate you sharing your back story and experiences with Outback’s! I actually use to own a couple Tacomas (2013 and 2017) and definitely miss them. But an Outback is one of the best all around vehicles these days. Thank your for the channel support and for choosing to regularly watch!!
Test drove a Mazda CX-50 and VW Taos recently. However, I didn't like them as much as the Outback. The visibility is amazing in the outback and so is the use of interior space. It's just a nice place to be. My only concerns are CVT maintenance (Drain fluid every 3 years/36K but it seems dealerships in the US aren't all on the same page when customers go in for this service. They either state it's a sealed unit although clearly SOA states under harsh driving conditions they recommend it...or in some cases won't do it. The prices seem to fluctuate greatly as well). Subaru also has a pretty bad track record with wheel bearings and oil weeping over 100k. Head gasket issues are mostly of the past, thankfully. With that said, it seems owner satisfaction is really high and people tend to keep these well over 100k. Anyway, I'm trying to talk myself into buying one so we'll see how that goes:)
This may or may not be reassuring to you, as I don't know how much of your own maintenance you like to do, but in general Subarus are relatively easy to work on (I own an Outback). A lot of stuff you can do yourself and things are well positioned so you can get to them easily. For example the oil filter is right on top, very accessible. Differentials for when you need to drain/refill them are quite easy to get to. Stuff like that. Again, this may not matter to you, but just an FYI!
If you tow, CVT drain and fill is more important. Otherwise, would say 5 years is a good window depending on the mileage you do. I had a 2013 for 12 years with no oil leaks or CVT issues and just got a new 2024.
I leased a 21 crosstrek and while I owned it the overall experience was great but unfortunately the maintenance costs made it hard to keep. The dealerships are charging way to much money for daily maintenance.
@@troyesch6203 I'm told Subaru Canada can be stickers for warranty claims if service wasn't done at dealership. It's just safer to do maintenance at dealer when in warranty period but MA. It's pricy.
I love the idea of wilderness outback and 2.4 turbo, but man, 43k is hard to reconcile. I reckon 32k for base WRX with 2.4 is much more wallet friendly and use the savings to rent a truck when you need.
According to Alex (I won't attempt to spell his last name) in a recent YT video he did he said no Subaru Baja. He's in the know since he sell them, I'm hoping in this case he's wrong.
Thanks for mentioning this! I also saw that the other day, I hope we see one! One guy who works for Subaru said the new generation Outback is expected to be about 1-2” longer and wider. I guess we’ll know soon enough what they’re up to. 🤪
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 My opinion of course, I really don't like what Subaru did to the looks of the 2025 Forester and that's why I bought my 2024 Forester Wilderness, so I'm hoping they don't do to the Outback what they did to the Fordester.
Haha, I totally get that! If there’s not going to be a Baja, and the new Outback Wilderness isn’t absolutely amazing I think I might transition to another brand or back to a mid sized truck (Tacoma) or maybe the new 4Runner. Now that we still have a Subaru in the family I feel I can be adventurous and learn another platform.
It’s on the bottom of the front seat f the engine under the skid plate area. I have a video where I install the light bar on my Outback and in that video I show where the turbo is. Thanks for watching!
That’s a good question, of all the vehicles I’ve owned it’s been the Subarus and older Toyota trucks that I haven’t had a single real problem with. A lot of Toyota’s new products at least their trucks are showing to have legitimate powertrain problems. But their hybrid RAV4 seems to be very reliable, whereas the gas powered RAV4 with the 8 speed I’ve heard is not a strong transmission. So basically idk. Buy and drive what makes you happy because everything these days feels like a gamble. But as someone who doesn’t like car problems and wants a safe and competent AWD system Subaru for now gets my money. And I haven’t been disappointed yet. 😅🙃
I haven’t driven a 3.6R Outback, from what I can google it sounds like they’re rated at least 1s slower than the 2.4T. So that paired with its naturally aspirated horsepower loss at the density altitude I test at means it’s probably about 1.5s slower than this 2.4T if tested at the exact same time. I’m not quite sure what you mean wobbly box? I’ve only driven a few older CVT Subarus (since I just started making videos 2 years ago) but the turbo/CVT combo can be a tiny bit power surging prone, but the more you learn that combos characteristics the easier it is to drive smoothly at low speeds.
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 My Outback has always wobbled on fast take off and even worse when pulling my boat. Two service managers have told me that every Subaru CVT will wobble on take off. If you drive like a granny or like you do at the dealer test ride, you may not feel it. It's worse when pulling a trailer. Feels like all four wheels wobble. My 2016 Subaru traction is not as good as my 2005 or 2011. It loses traction sooner and cannot climb the very same embankment that my earlier Subarus with real transmissions did. It will kill power on the same embankment that my earlier Subarus would walk right up.
By the way, try to trade your current one or check it's present value. The CVT models are losing value way faster than my earlier transmission models. That alone tells me all that I need to know.
That’s all very interesting! There’s been a few times I’ve come into town to borrow a 3.6 Outback and they’ve always sold before I borrowed one, they must be pretty popular and I know others have spoken highly of them. I’m still not understanding what that wobble must be, but I would imagine towing will only magnify it. Subarus are suppose to keep really good value, but I don’t personally see that. At least not like a Toyota truck. 🤪😅
I have a '23 OBW and occasionally "get on it", yeah it's not my older WRX, but I'm not disappointed nor do I experience "wobble".. at least what that word means to me.
I like that the Subaru hatches go up high, because I frequently hit my head on vehicles with hatches that don’t go high. If you want to limit how high the hatch goes, you can easily do that by pressing a little button. I think it makes more sense to have a vehicle that can go high and can be limited to any height you want; than have a vehicle that is limited to a low height.
That’s really good insight! Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts with it.
Love the color of this car
A new version of the Baja would be great, if they did a Baja Wilderness model with some true offroad stuff like lockers, and more of a 4WD instead of AWD, or at least an AWD Lock mode they'd be onto something.
I really was set on getting a Subaru Forester Wilderness, but after looking around some more, the Outback Wilderness has more ground clearance, and a bit more interior space, and a bit more power....so I may go with a Outback Wilderness in the near future.
That would be such a sweet Baja! I really enjoyed getting to own the OBW, if you do decide to go with that one as your upgrade I hope you enjoy it just as much!
I've had a 2004 and 2009 Outback. Had to trade the '09 in 2016 for a 2017 Tacoma when we bought a small travel trailer and needed a capable tow vehicle. My wife had a 2015 Outback and traded it for a 2024 Outback back in April. I no longer need the truck (95,000 trouble free miles), so will be trading up to the 2025 Outback Wilderness. Love that green color! Thanks for all of your videos! Just subbed and of course - liked.
I appreciate you sharing your back story and experiences with Outback’s! I actually use to own a couple Tacomas (2013 and 2017) and definitely miss them. But an Outback is one of the best all around vehicles these days. Thank your for the channel support and for choosing to regularly watch!!
Test drove a Mazda CX-50 and VW Taos recently. However, I didn't like them as much as the Outback. The visibility is amazing in the outback and so is the use of interior space. It's just a nice place to be. My only concerns are CVT maintenance (Drain fluid every 3 years/36K but it seems dealerships in the US aren't all on the same page when customers go in for this service. They either state it's a sealed unit although clearly SOA states under harsh driving conditions they recommend it...or in some cases won't do it. The prices seem to fluctuate greatly as well). Subaru also has a pretty bad track record with wheel bearings and oil weeping over 100k. Head gasket issues are mostly of the past, thankfully. With that said, it seems owner satisfaction is really high and people tend to keep these well over 100k. Anyway, I'm trying to talk myself into buying one so we'll see how that goes:)
Best of luck in whatever you decide to do!
This may or may not be reassuring to you, as I don't know how much of your own maintenance you like to do, but in general Subarus are relatively easy to work on (I own an Outback). A lot of stuff you can do yourself and things are well positioned so you can get to them easily. For example the oil filter is right on top, very accessible. Differentials for when you need to drain/refill them are quite easy to get to. Stuff like that. Again, this may not matter to you, but just an FYI!
If you tow, CVT drain and fill is more important. Otherwise, would say 5 years is a good window depending on the mileage you do. I had a 2013 for 12 years with no oil leaks or CVT issues and just got a new 2024.
Really good content!!!
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
I leased a 21 crosstrek and while I owned it the overall experience was great but unfortunately the maintenance costs made it hard to keep. The dealerships are charging way to much money for daily maintenance.
COST ME $550 TO BUY A NEW STARTER FOR MY CROSSTREK. ITS A DEALER ONLY PART AND THEY DONT GIVE DISCOUNT FOR CORE.
@@SeanSR not good
Then don’t bring it to the dealer for maintenance
@@troyesch6203 I'm told Subaru Canada can be stickers for warranty claims if service wasn't done at dealership. It's just safer to do maintenance at dealer when in warranty period but MA. It's pricy.
Daily service? The problem isn’t with the car. It sounds like the dealer you were to is screwing you
I love the idea of wilderness outback and 2.4 turbo, but man, 43k is hard to reconcile. I reckon 32k for base WRX with 2.4 is much more wallet friendly and use the savings to rent a truck when you need.
Yeah, I get that! The base WRX is a good deal. And way too many people own trucks when they should just rent one a couple times a year, lol.
If you are single yeah but if you have a family I think the Outback is the best option :)
According to Alex (I won't attempt to spell his last name) in a recent YT video he did he said no Subaru Baja. He's in the know since he sell them, I'm hoping in this case he's wrong.
Thanks for mentioning this! I also saw that the other day, I hope we see one! One guy who works for Subaru said the new generation Outback is expected to be about 1-2” longer and wider. I guess we’ll know soon enough what they’re up to. 🤪
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 My opinion of course, I really don't like what Subaru did to the looks of the 2025 Forester and that's why I bought my 2024 Forester Wilderness, so I'm hoping they don't do to the Outback what they did to the Fordester.
Haha, I totally get that! If there’s not going to be a Baja, and the new Outback Wilderness isn’t absolutely amazing I think I might transition to another brand or back to a mid sized truck (Tacoma) or maybe the new 4Runner. Now that we still have a Subaru in the family I feel I can be adventurous and learn another platform.
Where is the turbocharger on the wilderness
It’s on the bottom of the front seat f the engine under the skid plate area. I have a video where I install the light bar on my Outback and in that video I show where the turbo is. Thanks for watching!
@ thanks
The one question I always have, will an Outback last as long as a Toyota?
That’s a good question, of all the vehicles I’ve owned it’s been the Subarus and older Toyota trucks that I haven’t had a single real problem with. A lot of Toyota’s new products at least their trucks are showing to have legitimate powertrain problems. But their hybrid RAV4 seems to be very reliable, whereas the gas powered RAV4 with the 8 speed I’ve heard is not a strong transmission. So basically idk. Buy and drive what makes you happy because everything these days feels like a gamble. But as someone who doesn’t like car problems and wants a safe and competent AWD system Subaru for now gets my money. And I haven’t been disappointed yet. 😅🙃
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 thank you and love your videos!!! Keep them coming please.
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 please do more of the base model vehicles.
So no faster than the old 3.6r. How about the CVT wobble on takeoff? Still feel like a wobbly box until you get past 25mph?
I haven’t driven a 3.6R Outback, from what I can google it sounds like they’re rated at least 1s slower than the 2.4T. So that paired with its naturally aspirated horsepower loss at the density altitude I test at means it’s probably about 1.5s slower than this 2.4T if tested at the exact same time. I’m not quite sure what you mean wobbly box? I’ve only driven a few older CVT Subarus (since I just started making videos 2 years ago) but the turbo/CVT combo can be a tiny bit power surging prone, but the more you learn that combos characteristics the easier it is to drive smoothly at low speeds.
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 My Outback has always wobbled on fast take off and even worse when pulling my boat. Two service managers have told me that every Subaru CVT will wobble on take off. If you drive like a granny or like you do at the dealer test ride, you may not feel it. It's worse when pulling a trailer. Feels like all four wheels wobble.
My 2016 Subaru traction is not as good as my 2005 or 2011. It loses traction sooner and cannot climb the very same embankment that my earlier Subarus with real transmissions did. It will kill power on the same embankment that my earlier Subarus would walk right up.
By the way, try to trade your current one or check it's present value. The CVT models are losing value way faster than my earlier transmission models. That alone tells me all that I need to know.
That’s all very interesting! There’s been a few times I’ve come into town to borrow a 3.6 Outback and they’ve always sold before I borrowed one, they must be pretty popular and I know others have spoken highly of them. I’m still not understanding what that wobble must be, but I would imagine towing will only magnify it. Subarus are suppose to keep really good value, but I don’t personally see that. At least not like a Toyota truck. 🤪😅
I have a '23 OBW and occasionally "get on it", yeah it's not my older WRX, but I'm not disappointed nor do I experience "wobble".. at least what that word means to me.