I just bought these because New Balance has a wider higher arch comfortable fit. I've enjoyed the RC/SC Elite line and New Balance shoes in general and will use these for faster long runs. Probably gonna get the Alphafly 3 for race day if they ever make them available.
Excellent reviews. Very good analysis and I enjoyed listening to the different viewpoints. My big takeaway is it is definitely not a PB marathon shoe. That heel damage was terrible. I bypassed v3 and I'll bypass v4 too. The competition is so fierce these days and I'm thankful that is the case.
Been running in this for a while now, and i love it. Compare to V3, there is no more sinking feeling, unstable ride. The new one maybe taller but its more stable and definitely bouncier. No sinking feeling on this one and yet soft and comfy enough. I can compare the midsole to nike next% but maybe more comfy. The plate is quite aggressive and that helps propel me forward more. Its roomy enough in the toebox, has enough allowance for your feet to grow after running a few kms. Love the profile, nice looking shoe, a real head turner especially when i use it walking in a mall. My only gripe is lockdown. The toungue is too thin such that if i tie it tighter, i feel pain on top of my foot, and if i loosen it, it wont feet nicely. No heel rubbing whatsoever though, no heel slippage also. Got a different colorway though, i got the most conservative color, black and chalk colored midsole
Wore mine for the first time in my tempo session on Sunday. Overall I absolutely love them. My Elite v2 were one of my favourite shoes, but were never a choice for race day. These I'll definitely race in. I did have some heel rub (not to the degree that Keiran had, but still a bit sore). I'm hoping that playing about with the lacing and possible heel locking will cure this.
US size 10.5, 176 cm, 90 kg (heavier runner). I've really been enjoying the Rebel V4 and decided to give the Elite V4 a try. I'd heard about some people having heel rub issues, but Rebel has been great for me, and wasn't expecting any issues with the Elite since the upper is basically the same. First test run today and they were great. Took them out for 13 miles and I was able to pick up the pace for the last few miles a lot more than I planned for that run. Back in the box until race time (can't wait)
Exactly! I am 1.90m 100kg. I ran my first marathon this year in the rebel v4. I love that shoe . Its my absolute favorite in my shoe rotation. I got the elite v4 last month and enjoyed it as much as the rebel. And can definitely feel the pace is better with the plate
I’ve decided to order these 🙊 $320 blind buy. They seem to be getting overall good reviews with some mixed feelings - I’m a US13 in a minimum 2e width - so if I wanna try a super shoe this is it. Could squeeze my foot into whatever Nike Alpha or whichever it was I tried but tight as anything. Wide size twisted my arm. Wish me luck. I’m not a runner these are for walking (my body is a mess) but I have to admit - I am extremely excited. Beautiful design and yeah I’m about to have my first “super shoe” probably my only ever 😂😂
@@MrBrettStar ok so not to be negative Nancy - but ima sell mine 😂😂 joking aside - yeah I tried these. It was nice to be able to try a super shoe type. Pretty crazy feel. For my big ass though - I’ve only worn them twice. I always grab my 1080’s so I’ll sell my elites - it was fantastic to be able to try them though. Especially in Australia where these types of things are limited. Did you try the Elite’s?
My heels got complety crushed in these v4. I loved the v3 for faster long runs, never had problems with my heels in any shoe (nb, nike, adidas, saucony). Now I‘ve got 2 holes in my heels since 1 week already. I would recommend to check that before buying!
But the very beat wil be the adios pro 4, some elites are trainnung in them and the coments are fantastic, is nasically an evo 1 but denser and more durable .
To my knowledge (and those of for example Kofuzi and Believe in the Run crew) the adios pro 4 is a adios pro 3 with a upper change; circulating pictures confirm this...
How does it compare to the new hoka super shoe I still think there priceing themselves out of the market with these shoe I don’t see a reason to pick them up over the cheeper Nike vaporfly 3 or the slightly more expensive alphafly 3 Not too mention the other brands super shoes like mizuno , adidas ,saconey
First and foremost for most average runner this needs to be comfortable to wear and has enough room in the toe box. I would rather run with Superblast and finish the race a couple minutes slower then wear a pair of shoes that squeeze my toes in the entire race.
@kieranalger have you had a chance to try the sc trainer v3 yet? I also found the sc elite to be a bit shorter than most shoes and was wondering if the trainer will be the same seeming it also uses the fantomfit.
Do you know whether NB will make a version of this shoe in a wider fit? They are the only brand that offer wider fits across most of their product line, I think the last model was offered in wide. (Saucony also has wide options in most of their shoes, but not their racing shoes). I'm really hesitant to 1/2 size up on a normal width shoe, because I think the placement of your foot impacts mechanics of the run, and if the foot is too far back in the shoe I won't get the benefit and might risk injury
Anyone has a recommendation for a plated shoe that can be considered as rather stable?? Tried some and for me they all feel pretty unstable due to the high stack… :/
Ya, that heel design screams heel lift. Some people will get along with it perfectly fine, but for those of us who traditionally can have heel lift problems, probably best to steer clear of this one.
Apart from the boston, endorphin and zoomfly they don't compare; totally different shoes. Boston: heavier, higher drop, more suited for daily training with some speed sessions when needed. More dense foam. More durable. Endorphin: Less soft foam, higher drop, less propulsive plate and less rigid, more durable (1s and 2s at least). Zoomfly: only comparable by having a plate, furthermore just loses in every category from this shoe.
I’m certainly NO expert on running shoes & even less if an expert on like top tier marathon shoes 😂 it does seem like New Balance have made perhaps a more accommodating comfortable - & perhaps a super shoe that maybe more suitable for more people? Like yeah top tier runners can use this but maybe more so your lesser runners hobby type runners looking for a marathon runner that they can go for personal beats but that will last a bit more and be a bit better for “general” people. If this is a successful shoe - I’d love to see NB do a version 5 - but perhaps they can also do a shoe like going crazy going as light and responsive as they can to maybe see if they can challenge the Nike’s? I’m getting interested though especially New Balance. Having wide sizes in their shoes available - & the 1080v13 being so successful for me (my favourite shoe ever and I used to play basketball - we are fanatic about our shoes) I’m really loving New Balance. I have big wide feet and arthritic feet too so extremely tough to find shoes. Extremely tough - but the 1080’s are it 👌👌 so excited to have this on the way
Got a pair right here… first run in them was a “tempo” and these things are a little too friendly for anything fast… fit is comfortable. the heel cup is deep but kinda of sloppy. The ride … meh…. I’ll use it for long runs with faster paces in there. Not a workout shoe.
I just bought these because New Balance has a wider higher arch comfortable fit.
I've enjoyed the RC/SC Elite line and New Balance shoes in general and will use these for faster long runs. Probably gonna get the Alphafly 3 for race day if they ever make them available.
The TC was the best plated trainer/racer. The RC Elite, too.
Excellent reviews. Very good analysis and I enjoyed listening to the different viewpoints. My big takeaway is it is definitely not a PB marathon shoe. That heel damage was terrible. I bypassed v3 and I'll bypass v4 too. The competition is so fierce these days and I'm thankful that is the case.
Been running in this for a while now, and i love it. Compare to V3, there is no more sinking feeling, unstable ride. The new one maybe taller but its more stable and definitely bouncier. No sinking feeling on this one and yet soft and comfy enough. I can compare the midsole to nike next% but maybe more comfy. The plate is quite aggressive and that helps propel me forward more. Its roomy enough in the toebox, has enough allowance for your feet to grow after running a few kms. Love the profile, nice looking shoe, a real head turner especially when i use it walking in a mall. My only gripe is lockdown. The toungue is too thin such that if i tie it tighter, i feel pain on top of my foot, and if i loosen it, it wont feet nicely. No heel rubbing whatsoever though, no heel slippage also. Got a different colorway though, i got the most conservative color, black and chalk colored midsole
These are the most beautiful plated shoes right now ! And that color combinations in the upper are 10/10 .
Wore mine for the first time in my tempo session on Sunday. Overall I absolutely love them. My Elite v2 were one of my favourite shoes, but were never a choice for race day. These I'll definitely race in. I did have some heel rub (not to the degree that Keiran had, but still a bit sore). I'm hoping that playing about with the lacing and possible heel locking will cure this.
US size 10.5, 176 cm, 90 kg (heavier runner). I've really been enjoying the Rebel V4 and decided to give the Elite V4 a try. I'd heard about some people having heel rub issues, but Rebel has been great for me, and wasn't expecting any issues with the Elite since the upper is basically the same. First test run today and they were great. Took them out for 13 miles and I was able to pick up the pace for the last few miles a lot more than I planned for that run. Back in the box until race time (can't wait)
Exactly! I am 1.90m 100kg. I ran my first marathon this year in the rebel v4. I love that shoe . Its my absolute favorite in my shoe rotation. I got the elite v4 last month and enjoyed it as much as the rebel. And can definitely feel the pace is better with the plate
Yikes, that heel got shredded 😮
I’ll buy this for training long runs. I absolutely love my V2 for longer runs in the training block.
I’ve decided to order these 🙊 $320 blind buy. They seem to be getting overall good reviews with some mixed feelings - I’m a US13 in a minimum 2e width - so if I wanna try a super shoe this is it. Could squeeze my foot into whatever Nike Alpha or whichever it was I tried but tight as anything. Wide size twisted my arm. Wish me luck. I’m not a runner these are for walking (my body is a mess) but I have to admit - I am extremely excited. Beautiful design and yeah I’m about to have my first “super shoe” probably my only ever 😂😂
Yes, rejoice we finally have something for us 2e runners!
@@MrBrettStar ok so not to be negative Nancy - but ima sell mine 😂😂 joking aside - yeah I tried these. It was nice to be able to try a super shoe type. Pretty crazy feel. For my big ass though - I’ve only worn them twice. I always grab my 1080’s so I’ll sell my elites - it was fantastic to be able to try them though. Especially in Australia where these types of things are limited. Did you try the Elite’s?
@@fatboy5926 short answer, yes very happy with them so far.
My heels got complety crushed in these v4. I loved the v3 for faster long runs, never had problems with my heels in any shoe (nb, nike, adidas, saucony). Now I‘ve got 2 holes in my heels since 1 week already. I would recommend to check that before buying!
Seems like practically every major brand has a fast version 4 this year: SC Elite v4, Hyperion Elite 4, Endo Speed 4, Endo Pro 4, Adios Pro 4
But the very beat wil be the adios pro 4, some elites are trainnung in them and the coments are fantastic, is nasically an evo 1 but denser and more durable .
@@cesarzoghbi4695 How will they improve upon the Pro 3 though, that's already a stellar shoe.
To my knowledge (and those of for example Kofuzi and Believe in the Run crew) the adios pro 4 is a adios pro 3 with a upper change; circulating pictures confirm this...
@@jeroen1989 it's been sent back to the drawing board
Hello!! Great piece of information, as always. Thank you guys for doing these reviews, and please let my pockets have some rest. Cheers from Colombia!
Hoka cielo x1 or SC elite v4? I’m looking for a shoe for a 3:50 marathon
I ordered and sent my Cielo X1s back. They looked absolutely ridiculous. Like toys.
How does it compare to the new hoka super shoe
I still think there priceing themselves out of the market with these shoe
I don’t see a reason to pick them up over the cheeper Nike vaporfly 3 or the slightly more expensive alphafly 3
Not too mention the other brands super shoes like mizuno , adidas ,saconey
I agree. It's a hard sell.
Yeah, I saw them pop up for 280 euro! Yikes. 20 euro more than the Vaporfly 3, and that one can be found on good discounts already.
First and foremost for most average runner this needs to be comfortable to wear and has enough room in the toe box. I would rather run with Superblast and finish the race a couple minutes slower then wear a pair of shoes that squeeze my toes in the entire race.
@kieranalger have you had a chance to try the sc trainer v3 yet? I also found the sc elite to be a bit shorter than most shoes and was wondering if the trainer will be the same seeming it also uses the fantomfit.
Do you know whether NB will make a version of this shoe in a wider fit? They are the only brand that offer wider fits across most of their product line, I think the last model was offered in wide. (Saucony also has wide options in most of their shoes, but not their racing shoes). I'm really hesitant to 1/2 size up on a normal width shoe, because I think the placement of your foot impacts mechanics of the run, and if the foot is too far back in the shoe I won't get the benefit and might risk injury
They do offer it in wide
Do you think this would be a good 3:45 marathon shoe?
Anyone has a recommendation for a plated shoe that can be considered as rather stable?? Tried some and for me they all feel pretty unstable due to the high stack… :/
Conclusion: If you want the SC Elite v4 at half the price, get the Endorphin Pro 3.
I can't find them in stock anywhere.
Can you say more? Am looking at the E-Pro as a faster sorta long run type shoe and the price is also more tolerant, $150 at RW.
How it compares to metaspeed sky plus?
Ya, that heel design screams heel lift. Some people will get along with it perfectly fine, but for those of us who traditionally can have heel lift problems, probably best to steer clear of this one.
Just eating my breakfast..... and you show me that heel😂
can you compare this shoe against Adidas Boston 12, Saucony Endorphine Speed 4, Asics Novablast 4, and Nike ZoomFly\Pegasus\Invinsible series. thanks.
Apart from the boston, endorphin and zoomfly they don't compare; totally different shoes.
Boston: heavier, higher drop, more suited for daily training with some speed sessions when needed. More dense foam. More durable.
Endorphin: Less soft foam, higher drop, less propulsive plate and less rigid, more durable (1s and 2s at least).
Zoomfly: only comparable by having a plate, furthermore just loses in every category from this shoe.
so endorphin is not better?@@jeroen1989
I’m certainly NO expert on running shoes & even less if an expert on like top tier marathon shoes 😂 it does seem like New Balance have made perhaps a more accommodating comfortable - & perhaps a super shoe that maybe more suitable for more people? Like yeah top tier runners can use this but maybe more so your lesser runners hobby type runners looking for a marathon runner that they can go for personal beats but that will last a bit more and be a bit better for “general” people. If this is a successful shoe - I’d love to see NB do a version 5 - but perhaps they can also do a shoe like going crazy going as light and responsive as they can to maybe see if they can challenge the Nike’s? I’m getting interested though especially New Balance. Having wide sizes in their shoes available - & the 1080v13 being so successful for me (my favourite shoe ever and I used to play basketball - we are fanatic about our shoes) I’m really loving New Balance. I have big wide feet and arthritic feet too so extremely tough to find shoes. Extremely tough - but the 1080’s are it 👌👌 so excited to have this on the way
Change for change's sake....more $$$. NB used to be affordable.
The Elite V4 appears to be something of a replacement for the SC trainer. Why bother with SC tainer when the FF More and 1080 are great trainers.
Ouch! Those heels pictures
Looks good. Can't do that 4mm drop though. 😞
But that V4 price! I only paid $125 for the V3. But $250?
Got a pair right here… first run in them was a “tempo” and these things are a little too friendly for anything fast… fit is comfortable. the heel cup is deep but kinda of sloppy. The ride … meh…. I’ll use it for long runs with faster paces in there. Not a workout shoe.
the Nike fan run testers ha