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  • @williamjmccartan8879
    @williamjmccartan8879 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for sharing your time and work everyone, this was rich and I'm looking forward to other conversations coming together in the future, peace

  • @polymathpark
    @polymathpark 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great work everyone!

  • @matthewparlato5626
    @matthewparlato5626 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was So Good.
    Bonnitas investigation into real vs truth was juicy as John usually replies.
    And Bards reinvigoration of a more subjective personal implicit dynamic via Hegel is also so enticing..and plausible.
    ^ I think much of the oft awe-inspiring nuance we realize in this life is due to aprori implicits or mysterious implicits...

    • @projectmalus
      @projectmalus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's possible that the negation of awe inspiring nuance is due to apriori complicits leading to mysterious implicits. Mysterious for the individual in the placing of the observer, leading to is/ought and so on, the observer always in the past and this inspiring a fix for a collective effort that is always propositional and on a different ontological level as removed from the Logos, ie clever rather than intelligent.

  • @matthewparlato5626
    @matthewparlato5626 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I been saying it's always actually referencing PARADIGM SHIFTS...phase change, self organizing Criticality 39:15

  • @ili626
    @ili626 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:06 Wolfram addresses human experience in science

  • @InterfaceGuhy
    @InterfaceGuhy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can not help but map Bards modes or orders (Pathos, Logos, Mythos) onto the metaphysical domains of Landrys immanent metaphysics (Omniscience, Transcendence, Immanence)
    I am convinced we can trace these ideas all the way back to Pythagoras… at least to his early followers
    Unlimited
    Limit
    Harmonia

    • @InterfaceGuhy
      @InterfaceGuhy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would love to dialogos with you all

  • @gunterappoldt3037
    @gunterappoldt3037 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting talk, thanks.
    Short note: Relationality has been a basic topic in “Easternthinking“, like, e.g., in Daoism, Buddhism, and Yijing-Learning - a huge amount of data still to be “mined“, so to speak.
    -Regards

  • @tomerafek9215
    @tomerafek9215 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good Vibe by Bard in begging imho, say: "lets stop splitting hairs and unite/focus-together around discontinuing reductionism via honing on difficult relationality synching practice, lifting more poor souls from their dogmatic slumber, to begin with".

  • @projectmalus
    @projectmalus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Emotional intelligence is that communication between objects/holes where the closer to the logos like bacteria, the less of a hole they are as an object in terms of sequestered energy. If humans are doubled down (individually and collectively) as a "hole" then perhaps this possibility for emotional intelligence with a trampoline/disc/circle gives the springiness form to emerge, the 2d erupting into 3d. It's possible that killing other mammals removes this if mammals are an object.

  • @thephilosophicalagnostic2177
    @thephilosophicalagnostic2177 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we ever get at the real or are we forever blocked by the nature of our sense organs and the way sense data is broken apart and analyzed by the many levels of brain processing?

  • @aeonian4560
    @aeonian4560 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alexander Bard on bringing in the 3rd-Person perspective: "Everyone knows, if you want to spice up your sexlife you need to bring in a third person."

  • @mellonglass
    @mellonglass 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Intelligence and smartness, one steals, the other shares.

    • @mellonglass
      @mellonglass 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @michaelerdmann4447 consider how slow this gap is. The speed of a book is old news too late, while transcripts of mental conversation occur at the speed of light.
      Conversation is dissuaded by lecture, writing is the fear the lecture was not heard.

    • @mellonglass
      @mellonglass 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @michaelerdmann4447 what is to say intelligence was shared, and now it’s specialized, expert, and shallow of its own complexities, names and objective sale?
      The telling can have no pause to think.
      The guru of finance, filters by slot machine appeal.
      Paid to speak = silence of speaking.