GOING LOW...without tuning low? | Digitech Whammy vs. Neural DSP Gojira
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- DIGITECH WHAMMY 5:
www.proaudiostar.com/digitech...
DIGITECH DROP:
www.proaudiostar.com/digitech...
NEURAL DSP ARCHETYPE: GOJIRA:
neuraldsp.com/plugins/archety...
Honorable mentions:
EHX Pitch Fork + :
www.ehx.com/products/pitch-fo...
DIGITECH WHAMMY DT:
www.proaudiostar.com/digitech...
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Really like the way your cool personality blends with the informative nature of your video! Well done.
Thank you so much!!
The whole crew is posting today! Love it!!!
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Talk about honesty! Thank you so much for the video, man! Excelent comparison!
Thanks so much!!
DUDE thanks so much for doing this comparison. I'm saving up for a DT:D and currently just using the NDSP Gojira in the interim.
You saved me some time in seeing how they compare. Still gonna get the pedal though so I can control the drop and make things simpler.
Yeah man! Having the physical unit definitely has its benefits depending on the context but I may also get my hands on a midi controller so I can use the Gojira whammy in a more hands-on manner! Glad you enjoyed the video!!
So incredibly helpful, I'll definitely be using one of these til i can afford that baritone or just straight up 7 or 8 string
Hey man, not sure if you know, but Steve from Neural DSP put out some utility patches with the drop pedal set to precise semitone values. Really handy when you don't wanna sit and dial stuff in.
Oh that’s awesome!
Because of your comment I bought it and it does not have it in my version :( Do you know if I need to update it manually or something?
Hey, what do you mean your version?
@@MilesDoesMusic i didnt have the option to detune in half steps in my plugin. A friend of mine just told me I need to download those detuning presets , so I guess that will work
@@Dast0t Yeah sorry, I didn't see these comments. It's just presets you download.
Thank you man, just the explanation I needed 🙌🤘❤️
Happy to help!
I'd never imagined seeing someone even attempt playing Wave of babies on a 6 string Strat. Made my day. I own the Whammy DT and I think it sounds a tad better than the regular one though
"A tad" for tad hundreds dollars more... nah thanks 👌
Great review! Thanks man!
Thanks so much!!
Great comparison. I prefer my whammy V over the digital wow pedal but I don't dislike it. If only neural DSP would add the transpose feature to their older plugins.
definitely going the digitech for this one for tone and the physical expression foot pedal.
Thanks dude, sick vid
Thanks!
Really great video
Thank you!!
Great VIdeo Brother!
Thank you!
Great vid Miles🤘🏼. I sometimes have a similar issue with digital artefacts on the Variax in alt tunings. Can get frustrating at times
It’s a weird world of artificially altering your instruments pitch!
@@MilesDoesMusic definitely. Still not 100% sure I’m on board with it yet
I find that when I’m making small alterations (2 or 3 half steps) it’s worked out okay but when I make a drastic change like E standard to A standard is when it gets wonky, but I can’t remember the last time I played a wedding and a request for a song in A standard came up 🤷🏾♂️
Thank you! Great sound also!
Thank you!!
Great video bro
Thanks man!
In my opinion the pitch shifter, that is in the plugin makes things sound boomy and it od "choking" the singnal of your guitar. The pedal itself offers more clarity to the tone
It’s processing the change in pitch differently and I think the noise gate in the plug-in plays a role as well, but overall it’s definitely a different sound
Guitar > Digitech Drop > Whammy for that drop Z tuning.
Great video. I personally use the Drop for non-standard songs that I cover.
Thank you for that comparison. Honestly! I first tried out Pitch shifters like ~10 years ago when I was starting out and pretty much all of them were crap. But with metal today there's more and more pitch shifting going on so I wanted to see what's on the menu.
I already use my laptop and the tim henson plugin to play during our rehearsel so I will just switch to the gojira plugin haha.
The drop already existed back then....
Dude! Informative! I've been trying to figure out if I needed multiple guitars to play different tunings and Neural DSP is already sufficient for bedroom guitarists.
Happy to help!
Heaviest strat video on the internet
Hahaha I opted to use the strat just in case anyone was like “WELL OF COURSE IT SOUNDS AWESOME LOOK AT THE GUITAR HES USING 🥴”
@@MilesDoesMusic Haha, you know what they say about carpenters and their tools? Lol I use a strat myself
what about chris garza tho
What about him?
@@MilesDoesMusic i was saying that garza has the heaviest strat on the internet bc he plays deathcore on a strat
Dude, I'm glad to hear that you can breathe. Keep that shit up.
Haha me too!! Thanks so much man!!
I prefer the digitech drop, always liked the whammy pedal just for shifting dissonant notes
Can You reveal Your gear signal chain? It sounds so good!!! I mean distortion sound.
Great video Miles! Which pickup are you using on your strat in bridge and neck?
Thank you!! On that guitar I have a Seymour Duncan hot rails in the bridge and a cool rails in the neck - I used this guitar on purpose to show how good the sound can be from this plug-in without having fancy gear to run through it
Hi Miles! Thanks for posting this video!
Are you using an expression pedal via MIDI to control the WOW (If so please share the model)? Or did you automate it?
Hey,
Thanks for checking out the video - no, I’m not using an expression, I automated the movements
Thank you for this video! I really wanted to know if the plugin version was legit. Already own a Digitech Whammy, but the convenience of having it in the box is tempting.
Yeah dude! I had the same thought so I went ahead and tried it out and I love it!
cool demo! does he try the dive bomb at any point?
Cool stuff! What pedal do you use to control the VST Whammy and how you set it up?
Thanks man, however I didn’t use a physical pedal to control the whammy - I automated it in my DAW
STL amphub have an droptaver pedal that can be also used as an effect, i think it does a better job than most especially neural, give it a try if anyone is interested.
Make sure to set the droptaver quality on medium or high, low leaves much to be desired and just makes it sound horribly deminished and not in the good way.....
And now, all the neural DSP plugins have a pitch shifter built in. With semitones accounted for.
Not all of them but most!
Big love 🫶🏽
Thank you!
If I wanna play in C standard. Should I tune my guitar to d standard and set it on the 2nd down setting?
Yes.
Or get the Whammy DT. It combines the whammy and the drop into one pedal, with the addition of being able to tune up as well as down with the "drop" side of the pedal
Do you know if the whammy pedal can controll the wow pedal in the gojira plugin? I'm looking for something that can activate and controll it in a daw while its being played without having to resort to automation.
Hey man!
So basically from what I understand (because I reached out to Digitech about this very concept) you can’t use the whammy as a midi controller; it’s input is only for midi information going an external controller. So that’s annoying but, there’s a series of different options available for that very purpose on the market
you need midi expression pedal or a midi foot controler/switcher with a expression pedal like behringer fcb1010
@@CeyhanCaglar ty so much :)
@@crowdkillproductions.I did this and works like a charm with Nectar Pacer Midi control and set each button to drop to a certain interval. So by tapping with my leg I switch drop steps precisely to 1 step, or 2 steps...etc. Better than Expression pedal cause it's hard tot tune correctly AND with slightest touch, the tuning won't be perfect
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@@korayem damn thats a great idea. Thanks bro :)
Does the digitech go down to F standard 8 string tuning. I'm using a 7 string tuned to A standard btw
I don’t see why not - what seems to be the deal to me is that if you’re going into it already tuned lower, that’s gonna help maintain the sound you’re looking for once you pitch down. Trying to go from standard to like tuning for a 9 string isn’t going to sound good but yeah, try it and see!
how about halfstep down tuning? E flat tuning. is it posible?
Totally.
I get some volume/frequency drop when using the whammy dt :( i can use it 2-3semitones but anymore than that i grt some volume/ frequency drop.
Yeah, there will be some loss in a couple areas when pitching down drastically, mostly because the string is still vibrating and being “attacked” the same way so the dynamics aren’t being altered in anyway, just the pitch.
@@MilesDoesMusic do you think an eq pedal could make up for the volume/tone loss?
If you’re able to use it for boost as well as eq then yeah definitely
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The whammy sounds too digital to use for shifting tunings. For doing Tom morello its fine, but I’d try another pedal for tuning changes
It all depends on the context of what you’re trying to do. I use the whammy with my band when I have songs that are tuned lower normally and it does just fine but I’m also not going lower than is realistic for maintaining the general tonality of the guitar. The Digitech Drop is great also, but the same principle applies. It’s the same with the Gojira pedal as well. If you’re trying to go from standard tuning to like A standard it’s gonna sound a little weird, but some like that sound.
@@MilesDoesMusic got ya. I know 15 guitars isn’t always practical gigging 😁.
how do you shifting tune with wow pedall?
You have 3 options as far as changing the pitch in the wow pedal - there’s the 2 options for going up in pitch, and then there’s the 3rd setting which you have control over the wet/dry mix and you would set to 100% wet in order to completely change your original pitch.
What tuning would the 4th down be in, as well as the other numbers?
A 4th would be B standard, assuming you’re in standard tuning.
I wanna play in c standard. What setting would I use it on?
On the whammy, you would select to go down a 2nd.
@@MilesDoesMusic isn't a 2nd D standard? Sorry I put 2 questions lol
D standard and select the 2nd
That would fuck with my ears and fingers feeling a different vibration than what the speakers are doing
Hahaha yeah, it’s a little disorienting but I guess all the years of trying to record my guitar with inadequate stuff and combatting latency issues - and by combatting I mean playing through not hearing my guitar in time with what I was actually playing 😅 - that made me better at working around factors like that
that shirt f*cks so hard
Thanks!
12:21 song? Great vid
Thank you! That was Slipknot’s “The Devil in I”
Why don't you use clean sounds. Because it covers up all the problems. This is worthless
Thanks!