Started with an A500. Added a HDD. Then bought a (second hand) A2000. Ended up selling both to get an A1200 which is still going strong! Wish I could have kept them all.
jasonsbeer here...nice work! Imagine my excitement when an A2000 EATX build video popped up on my youtube feed today. You did a great job going through everything...including the issues people should be aware of. I have probably ordered 50-60 of these boards from JLCPCB through the development phases and for resale. Never had any warped like that, so I don't think that's a production issue. Regardless, that's unfortunate. Looking forward to part 2!
Thanks for the kind words. The warping in the board is unfortunate but it is what it is. I now have the slots fitted and it certainly strengthens everything, the board at least doesn't flex as much. All being well part 2 will be up this coming Sunday finishing off the build getting it all into a case.
I do know that some people are calling them "ricers", where "sleepers" and "ricers originally came from the car scene - and they both apply the definition of performance equally.
Full RGB gamer mode with the iconic bouncing ball etched into the window, so the lights make it glow. I think that would be phenomenal. Can't wait for part 2!
Nice one Glen, I think RGB All the way :) You could have fun with the Floppy and LPF LED signals using a pi pico to run the light show. I watched the entire video at 1.75X speed. Your voice is perfectly audable at that speed :) I can't imagine how long that took you to do in real time.
Honestly I think so far I'm into it for about 20 hours. It's a lot of work but look at what it makes by the end, I think it's worth it. Still not sure about RGB but I think it needs some lighting in the case. Maybe something that I can select the colours and brightness on is the way to go.
@@CRG I had a ceramic 68010 chip in my A2000T that I made. You notice the 010 speedup if you have no fastram. There is a very nice pi based flicker fixer that plugs into the genlock port. (Assuming you have a pi zero.)
Fascinating watching a brand new big box Amiga motherboard being born here in 2022. I never had nor saw Amigas back in th 1990’s but recently got into them and bought a Vampire V4 Standalone, then got the itch for a big box and so I have Hese building me AA3000+ and then A4000TX motherboards. Expensive hobby once you start adding in Zorro USB, 9000GPU, IDE controller boards and the custom chipset costs but it is fun and luckily classic Amiga OS keeps getting updates with 3141 and 32 in the last couple years. Great video and I enjoyed watching Part 1.
I instantly knew that signal diode part number. It's honestly the only one I know offhand. Was dreading the plot twist where it was installed backwards lol
Lovely job Glen! Really cool to see an Amiga 2000 emerging in a new form factor. Look forward to seeing the Zorro slots installed and in action. For a keyboard you could use one of those CIA USB adapter thingys until you track down a proper A2000 keyboard. Case-wise: Yeah a windowed box sounds good. In a modern case. Sort of an inverse sleeper!!
I have just subscribed. I thoroughly enjoyed your build. As an owner of several different Amigas, including a bunch of 2000s, I enjoyed the A2000 for so many years, that I am happy to see that it lives on. Even though my main 2000 has a GVP 030 board doesn't get much use any more, because I am using an 040 powered A3000, as well as a Cyberstorm powered A4000. Amiga forever!
You did pretty well soldering all of those surface mount components. It's surprising how quickly one improves with a little practice. I use similar techniques, and I haven't come across anything I can't solder with just a normal soldering iron and a hot air station. However, if it were me and I came across that tiny diode while ordering the parts, I probably would've downloaded the project from the hub for gits, and modified it to use a more normal sized footprint. As for the case, I'm not a huge fan of RGB LEDs. Buuuut if you're going to have a case with a window, you'll need some lighting to be able to see it, so I suggest some kind of programmable RGB LED controller. The only other thing I'd suggest is that I've seen beige-ish (more white) coloured modern cases, so that might be a nice nod to the modern and retro contents.
Remembering back to when this was ordered they just didn't have stock of some components. In fact even getting some stuff to do ourselves was difficult. Parts were ordered from maybe 4 or 5 different places and some of it had to come from AliExpress. I suppose it just comes down to the current worldwide shortages.
Nice work, its a big board, so not to difficult to solder the SMD parts, they're fiddly but having a decent iron and the correct tools does help. I do this stuff for a living 🙂
9:37 I do appreciate that somebody have a time and skills to recreate such a board but "come one". This is a large board. There is a lot of free space for bigger components.
I was inspired by this video and am part way though building 2 of these. Been asked to do a 3rd (converting a friends Amiga 500) with a black PCB. As I can only order a minimum of 5, there are some currently available on Ebay if anyone wants to give this a go for themselves.
Wow! Flipped through your video - manually doing all that soldering, kudos to you, that is extremely hard, I know I wouldn't be able to manage it at this time without a huge amount of invested time. Amazing stuff.
Thanks. Recording it does make it take longer but I think for this one in total about 20 hours. I dare say that without the camera and if you just focused on it there would be no problem getting it all done in half that.
Can't remember, some guy who works on carpet 😉🤣 Thanks Chris for allowing us to take over your discord for all the discussion around this build. Part 2 coming this weekend I hope.
@@GadgetUK164 Absolutely not mate and please don't think that. I'm forever grateful for the support you and others from your discord have given me over the years.
Despite the amount of work involved there is nothing overly complicated about it. Of course it gets more difficult when you throw the switch and nothing happens but at least that got sorted in the end.
Of course, we would (or I would) watch all 50 minutes. This is such a nice project. I have seen one for an A4000 in an EATX style too, so it's nice to know there are options. As for the OS: I think if you want to use a CD-ROM you need a newer OS version but I don't remember that for sure. I would personally try to get an as modern case as possible with a window (to see the RGB of course) that also has drive bays. As drive bays are pretty much history these days, this might be a difficult task but getting a floppy drive/Gotek and maybe a CD drive at the very least is nice. Especially since I don't see an external floppy connector on this particular board. But either way, this is fascinating. Great job.
Drive bays in a modern case are really hard to find but at least with Amiga its easy enough to setup everything using WinUAE and especially if you have an easily accessible CF or SD card. I have a case in mind and hopefully it'll be here for the next part.
@@CRG Of course. I know you can also get USB interfaces for the Amiga, so you could also connect a Gotek and/or a CD drive that way, I think. Anyway, it's just what I would go for. I did myself manage to find a few modernish cases with drive bays. I just don't remember if they were regular ATX or EATX. Likely ATX. Looking forward to the next episode.
If I ever decide to build one of my own, the PCB will be modern black and it goes in a Fractal Design case will tempered glass to showcase the TOASTER!
It would be nice to put it in a brand new A2000 case, but I do know of anyone doing those atm. A nice alternative would be the Checkmate case. Thanks for the video.
Struggled to watching this build as I'm half way though my own project that I've had to leave hanging due lurgee, work, kids DIY and I'm desperate to get back to it to see if it will work! Seriously, great video and nice to get some soldering tips which will come in handy whenever I get back to my own project! Right, back to cooking...
Congratulations! A year back I went for the floppie209 board because every chip is in a socket and its easy to repair but I did take a look at this board, and it looks nice! I just received my Denise ITX board but the density of all the smd scares me a little ;-) For cleaning I used 2 liters of bio ethanol and a large tube.
I've also got a dead A500Plus with battery damage like yours (10+1 power light flashes, but a BLACK screen - haven't figured that out). I was thinking about building an A500++ from it, but now the A2000 is kinda tempting.... Oh, and Full on RGB, definitely!!
Sounds like it could be Agnus at fault on your board but hopefully not as the 8375 is getting expensive. The 2000 board is a great build and I'd highly recommend it if you have the space the full machine would need over a new wedge. It opens the door to Zorro expansions which is something I've never had the chance to play with. The new case is on order and some lighting is included. The next part should be out this weekend.
Great Vid!!! Take a look at BeQueit cases there with RGB and look great also with out, I use the 900 case, and love the point you can switch sides where the glass is to show off the mainboard!
Your best bet on cleaning the board would probably be Rainbow International. Operating in south Belfast / Bangor according ot the website. The pics on there show them dunking complete CD Players into an ultrasonic bath, so I reckon an a2000 mobo would definitely work as well. Awesome build series my man, looking forward to the second part!
Nice job. I really like this idea of giving a second like to an Amiga 500 as an Amiga 2000. For the case? I think I'm with you, and I wouldn't want a boring beige box. I'm not sure an Amiga really has the aesthetic of a full on gamer box either. Maybe some kind of in-between? Something with some style, but still represents something from the old aesthetic. Since this is a 500 turned into a 2000... maybe the case should have some outward styling elements of a 500, but in "full box" 2000 model. I honestly always liked that look of Amia 500/600 and the Plus/4 with the cooling vents.
I can't remember why we went with JLC over PCBWAY, it might just have been cost if I'm honest. Despite the warp in the board it works fine so I'm happy enough.
@@CRG My first thought was, that you should have to clamp it down or make a jig before any soldering. This might take the stress out of the soldering points after it’s mount in a case.
The A500+ 8375 Agnes is totally different Agnes from A500 8375. The pin out is even different. To upgrade an A2000 to 2MB CHIP RAM with an A500+ AGNES you need an adapter that remaps the pin outs and also adds they extra CHIP RAM. I think. You need like the 8375 (318069-16 only) (PAL) - Amiga 500 from Rev 6 (PAL); Amiga 2000 model B from Rev 6.4 (PAL) or any PAL 8372A from a Rev 6 A500. At least that is what I thought from first glance. I didn't watch the whole video but I just heard you say that you used the chips from and A500+.
This board has various jumpers to set which let you use any of the various Agnus chips. The issue with this one which I initially blamed on a bad Agnus, with some later testing, turned out to be a bad Gary.
Nice project. I believe you can get a Keyrah board to convert an existing A500 keyboard into an external one with casings also being available. I can't remember where I saw it for sure but I think Neil from RMC might have done something like this when he set up an A1500 project. I know it's not a 'professional' cleaning method but many people have been using dishwashers to clean circuit boards with good results (just make sure it's properly dried off before powering it up). As for the case, something like the NZXT H7 Flow might be a good fit. It is listed as being EATX compatible and is available in black, white or black and white. The black version sports a tinted window which could be a good shout since the basic green of the motherboard is not exactly pretty. It could end up looking a lot better in conjunction with some RGB fans or a lighting kit (since as an Amiga this system is unlikely to need much in the way of airflow). The biggest problem is that pretty much all modern cases don't allow for a floppy drive which is why you might end up looking on Ebay for an older case unless you are willing to use an external drive.
The A500 keyboard can be easily converted for use as an A2000 keyboard and thats my plan until I can find something better. I'm not sure if RMC has done a video on it but I know certainly GadgetUK has. I don't think I could put this in the dishwasher. Yes I seen loads of folk do it but on the chance it'd go wrong for me I don't think its worth it. I have a case in mind for this build and yes finding one with an external drive bay is near impossible but I hope I have a work around for that.
We "watched the video for almost 42 minutes", when you talked about that testing. I'd love to see those parts, too! Just mentioning! Great video as usual! As for the case: Please do not go the RGB route! Imho that destroys the classic aspect of the Amiga. Modern case would be okay with a window!
I toyed with the idea of including more of the testing footage etc but when it ultimately ended up just being a bad agnus I thought is there any point in dragging this out for a further 10-15 minutes. Given how long the video is I decided to cut it and just give the highlights. I'll keep it in mind for the future though. Thanks for the feedback. As for the case I've got my eye on a nice Corsair 4000D black case with a tinted side window but will see what the rest think.
OK, I never heard of this project until today... might just get my hands on one. Great video, thanks for sharing your experience building it! Wonder if it would work with TF536 for example, would make a sweet setup.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video. It does indeed work with the 536 and I'm considering building one myself for it. I would like one of the full size A2000 accelerator cards but like most things Amiga they are getting a bit too expensive.
Great build Glen - Go 50/50 on the case, i.e. modify a nice modern gaming case with a window, BUT respray it beige :) Also, I have a good Karcher pressure washer that'll clean that board beautifully for you 👌👌😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don't think you need to worry about long videos, mate, at least for me, it didn't feel like it was much more 20min Hope you get some Zorro sockets and get to test it out with even more hardware. And I swear I shall pack up that 600 during this week
TOP STUFF! Watched it all the way through, even with one of my kids bugging me for ice-cream two thirds of the way in... Want to build me one? I'm in Australia!
I have an original 2000 with SCSI card and iirc a Ram expansion. Need to get it out and get back into it. Scsi2sd card. And I have some ram for the scsi card to install.
Do you know where the information about Chip memory addressing in Amiga is stored? I know Amiga can have two 2MB ram chips. can't this be changed? In which integrated circuit could this information be stored? PS: would it be possible to change this memory to a faster one? and for a bigger one?
@@CRGI don't want an emulator! emulators are the way to nowhere. Dead end. Can't you somehow reprogram Agnus or trick him? is there any chance to replace it with a new integrated circuit? with new fast memory ?? who has documentation for Agnus? where is the Agnus documentation and diagrams? are you sure that the addressing does not go through Rom?
It's the dimensions of the board that decides the case you can use, My super micro server boards are best put in a old mac pro g5 case, the one with only 1 cdrom drive. Because the other cases I bought that was eatx Just wouldn't fit it. I bought one, thinking all eatx was same size. A old flip top ibm type case also a good choice for me and my dual cpu server boards, that are huge and not standard sized. The problem I had with the ibm pc case was some graphic cards/gpu's too tall with power cables attached. So how tall are the cards and cables going to be? Things to be considered. My mac pro 5 version of my server builds I think work the best and have the most room for things.. If you like Hacked retro. Seems to be the roomiest case not too expensive on ebay.
I have now since built it into a case which you can see in the part 2 video, the last 10 minutes or so if you want to skip to that part. One thing I quickly learned is that EATX isn't a defined standard in terms of board size. this board is 330x305mm and the only way I could figure out what case to use was to look for one with 4 screw holes in a row for mounting the motherboard.
Thanks, glad to hear you enjoyed it. To answer your questions... No, I didn't ever think it was too much work from the point of view of the assembly, if anything I enjoyed it with the anticipation of it being finished and booting. Of course when it didn't there was that sinking feeling of what could possibly be wrong and especially after I fixed the clock. Ultimately it worked though out so all good. As for the keyboard, yes I looked at the checkmate but just now it's a little expensive. I'm already about £500 deep into this project and can't afford the £70 for it. Maybe after Christmas.
Only something I can dream of doing to be honest. I did a bit of basic coding back in the day but wouldn't know were to start these days. Always enjoyed it though, maybe I should try to pick it up again.
this extension for visual studio lets you code on Windows 10. You can debug using an emulator and when your finished transfer the program to the Amiga.
Nice build :) reminds me to finish my A4000TX :/ Looking forward to the case, something I can use for my board mabye :) hope you find something vintage correct for the this board.
Hi, it's a very great job. Nice to see an eternal Amiga in 2022. And what case to use with this mainboard? Cruel dilemna. I hope next video very soon. Bye.
I would look for an old 'flip top' or rack mount case- as a starting point and maybe mod that - as its the closest your going to get to the tank of a case that the original '2000's came with, if you were so inclined you could always take a dremel and a couple of cans of paint to it for something unique
This is amazing.. now we need some one to start reproducing the custom chips. Seriously whoever owns the rights please release them into the public domain.
A year ago I might have agreed with you but honestly now I think SMD is easier than through hole, especially when its the larger pitch SMD stuff. That SRAM and some of the chicken feed was tricky enough.
@@CRG You can use radial electrolytics instead of SMD, they make them small enough these days in those values. Just bend both leads 90 degrees outwards from the base of the cap then trim the excess. SMDs tend to leak, so I avoid using them
The GitHub is linked in the videos description, you can get the files needed to order boards along with the bom there. Our parts came from various places, components were ordered from a mixture of mouser and digikey. Slots, sockets and the cpld for bluster came from AliExpress. The chipset came out of an old A500+. We had to use so many outlets due to the component shortage.
About the Case: There is an issue with modern Cases. They don't have any external 3,5" bays that you need for the floppy or a GOTEK. So that's an issue. Heck even internal 3,5" bays are becoming rare these days... 5¼" Bays are not as hard, so you need at least a 3½" to 5¼" Frame thing and then use a Case that is made that allows E-ATX and has a 5¼" Bay. The be quiet Dark Base 900 would fit that, but that's not cheap... So you might want to look for older SERVER/WORKSTATION cases perhaps? Or go with a good old Desktop one...
@@CRG Silverstone Grandia GD-08 or GD09 perhaps? Though you need a 5¼" Adaptor, but that shouldn't be a Problem. A black FDD (Cover) is also something you might want. Skinflint (UK Version of Geizhals) should give you a good idea of what you could get and has some nice search options as well.
I really wish someone would make this board for all thru-hole parts. Surface mount is low quality, consumer level garbage. One of the nice things about the Amiga 2000 computer is that its motherboard is high quality thru-hole. When you compare thru-hole parts to surface mount parts you can see the difference in quality. And yet, for some reason people are converting high quality thru-hole PCBs to low quality surface mount crap. WHY?! Are thru-hole parts getting hard to find, or what? I would buy at least 100 Amiga 2000 ATX motherboards if they used thru-hole parts, not the surface mount garbage. 🤔
Of course and sorry for not covering it in the video. Cost for PCB and components was around £300. To date though I'm probably up to around £500 total with the donor A500+, PSU, Case, Gotek etc.
Great stuff! I always found myself really enjoying watching such re-creation of a retro tech using more modern parts, for me this is some sort of tech p#rn :) If question about pc case is still open - I can propose a Phanteks Ethoo Pro lying around and collecting dust in my storage. It may provide that not too modern, but not too old, but with back window n stuff look for this build. Anyway thanks for interesting content :)
This is fucken cool. What would be cooler is if some or all of the chipset got replaced by CPLD's so we don't have to source pricy and scarce chips (and can have the max chip RAM configuration for cheap/get AGA in this form factor without ZIII).
You get a thumbs up for a 50 minute video. Another thumbs up for poking fun at Adrian Black. I love his channel, nice to see another creator also watching his channel. My thoughts is your project is NOT an original A2000. So you should go over the top. If this was a restore, then by all means go original.
Thanks, great to hear from someone who enjoys a longer format video. I've been a big fan of Adrian for a few years now. You might say he has been somewhat of an inspiration for this channel.
Couple things I noticed.... No video slot on far right? Guess they moved it and put in SVideo or something? Also, the 68000's position could be bad for people who use a CSA Derringer 030, CSA Mega Midget Racer 030, PP&P 040, M-Tec 020 or 030... Basically, anything that goes into the 68000 socket is gonna ram into placement issues on whatever gets installed in that slot. I have design ideas for drop in motherboard replacements for A1000, A500, and A2000 (and maybe the 2000 tower). Only the 1000 and 500 would have the 68000 socket anyways yet I calculated the size and position where the above mentioned boards (and maybe some of that newer stuff they got out now) would fit without an issue. My designs are based on an old dream back in the 1980's that me and my brother had... essentially wishing C= would come out with as board revisions. They never did such revisions but it was always cool to want this or that... So the minimum modern stuff I could use from now... the better. Maybe pay homage to Jay Miner with a set number that have his image on the board (wouldn't be able to sell those but give them away). The others would all have a message and memorial written on the back of the board. The boards would use 30 pin sims and 68010's (for the 1000 and 500). Up to 8mb of Fast RAM for those old CPUs (they can take it). 2mb Chip RAM on board.. with auto sensing (or jumpers) for whichever Agnus is installed (either the 512k, the 1024k, or the 2,048k one) Separated into 3 banks. 0 = 512k, 1 = 512k, 2= full 1mb. There's reasons for that.... Also the CPU's would be going 16mhz exactly... or a jumper for 8... or an option to go 7.16 (standard) if one of those other boards requires exactly that setting. (Boards like the M-tec 020 would require the 7.16 speed because it double that for its own chips. The CPU can handle it... the GALs or PALs may not be able to.. least thats what I was told). On the 1000 the front expansion would have four 30 pin sockets... the main board would have four. IDE interface if it will work with 1.3... The only modern changes would be to add a VGA output... and room to allow for a HDMI (for someone who gets that Denise to HDMI board)... Color out would be S-video maybe? The 500 would also have four 30 pin sockets on the maim board and four 30 pin sockets on the trap door card. It would also have the same CHIP RAM configuration of three banks. The 2000, variation I planned to not even have a 68000 socket at all. Just a 020/030, 881/882 sockets with the initial CPU being an 020 running at motherboard clock speed of 28mhz. It would still have a CPU slot.. and a 2nd video card slot would be added... (Had a friend that wanted a 2nd video slot so bad... he had a Toaster...) The 2000 could be upgraded with an 030 since they are pin for pin compatible. The 2000 Tower would be a weee bit different. It would have an 040 on the motherboard. With 72 pin sockets up to ... whatever works LoL Remember the entire idea was to just make these three with mostly the same stuff that was around at the time they either came out or were going strong. I think... whatever was around 87-89 range.... 30 pin simms had been around since '82... 72's did show up some time later... but for the tower.. My goal was to make exactly 4,096 of each of these. 4,096 represents something significant to some Amigans. It was the amount of colors in HAM mode that they bragged about when it first came out. Seems to be a good number. Plan was to try and sell 4,000 of each... and give away to certain folks the 96 "Jay Miner" imaged boards (that are behind glass and hang on a wall). Alas, with my bad health.. these probably won't happen at all. I think it is smarter to make the boards and get most of the parts like caps, resistors, connectors, sockets... maybe the 16mhz 68010s... I think they'd be honorable upgrade replacement boards even though they wouldn't be extreme like you could design. Hell they got A3000 and A500 AGA monster drop ins now that kick butt. Anyways...
This board isn't designed to fit in the original case, its design in an EATX form factor so the video slot has moved position to what would be the first slot on a PC motherboard. The 2000 also isn't really meant to be upgraded by replacing the CPU in its socket, rather the CPU slot should be used and there are adaptor cards out there that allow you to use the 68k socket accelerators in the slot. You're plan for your own boards sound interesting. Good luck should you ever decide to build them. I know the idea behind this board was to keep it as original as possible while fitting the new layout and allowing maximum choice in terms of agnus chips.
There's certainly nothing stopping you fitting a pistorm either into the 68k socket or the CPU slot. In conversation with the designer of this board about a few things he stated that he wanted to keep it as original as possible which I can fully appreciate. For example a PS2 keyboard interface or scan doubler on board would have been nice but there are other solutions for that.
@@CRG the thing is, 68k are getting harder to get by the day, therefore I thought that since this is a costum board it would make sense to embed pistorm on it
Does anyone have documentation for these specialized integrated circuits and 68060 processors? Where can I download documentation for these chips? Does anyone have any information on this?! Because I would love to see how they built it back then.
@@CRG hi I lived in UK for ouver twenty years I worked for an electronic company in London love it saying that I have left UK ouver twenty five years ago.. I have electronics and conputurrs as a hobby.. My eyes are not very good I am getting old.. With some good lighting I still gett some projects done.. Wish you well
@@CRG £120!! That's insane! On two of my A500 ++ replica boards I used Liv's Diet Agnus adapter to convert from 8375 to 8372A because I refused to pay insane prices for the 8375. There are very few/if any OCS/ECS whdload slaves these days that require more than 1MB chip + fast ram.
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Started with an A500. Added a HDD.
Then bought a (second hand) A2000.
Ended up selling both to get an A1200 which is still going strong!
Wish I could have kept them all.
jasonsbeer here...nice work! Imagine my excitement when an A2000 EATX build video popped up on my youtube feed today. You did a great job going through everything...including the issues people should be aware of. I have probably ordered 50-60 of these boards from JLCPCB through the development phases and for resale. Never had any warped like that, so I don't think that's a production issue. Regardless, that's unfortunate. Looking forward to part 2!
Thanks for the kind words.
The warping in the board is unfortunate but it is what it is. I now have the slots fitted and it certainly strengthens everything, the board at least doesn't flex as much.
All being well part 2 will be up this coming Sunday finishing off the build getting it all into a case.
If only TH-cam had a "this deserves a bigger audience" button... great stuff as ever
Thanks Mark, this one has quickly turned into my biggest video of the year. Part 2 will be up for Sunday.
I like the idea of a “reverse sleeper” where the outside is super modern gamer RGB, but the internals are Amiga. Could be fun!
I do know that some people are calling them "ricers", where "sleepers" and "ricers originally came from the car scene - and they both apply the definition of performance equally.
Is there a surface mount parts kit for this board? I am considering buying one and building it. 😃
Full RGB gamer mode with the iconic bouncing ball etched into the window, so the lights make it glow.
I think that would be phenomenal. Can't wait for part 2!
p.s. I love the idea of using an A500 keyboard in a custom shell. That seems like a fun project on its own too!
Thats the plan, use an A500 keyboard. I have a case in mind for the board and there may be some RGB stuff on order too 😉
Nice one Glen, I think RGB All the way :) You could have fun with the Floppy and LPF LED signals using a pi pico to run the light show. I watched the entire video at 1.75X speed. Your voice is perfectly audable at that speed :) I can't imagine how long that took you to do in real time.
Honestly I think so far I'm into it for about 20 hours. It's a lot of work but look at what it makes by the end, I think it's worth it.
Still not sure about RGB but I think it needs some lighting in the case. Maybe something that I can select the colours and brightness on is the way to go.
@@CRG I had a ceramic 68010 chip in my A2000T that I made. You notice the 010 speedup if you have no fastram. There is a very nice pi based flicker fixer that plugs into the genlock port. (Assuming you have a pi zero.)
Next-level soldering skills.
Really it is, he's very (very) good at it.
Thanks guys, mostly I put it down to good solder and flux although I like to think my skills are getting better.
@@CRG A quality solder I discovered goes a long way to making easier soldering. Still some around with silver content and it flows so much better.
@@VenturiLife I use a leaded solder and since changing to that the difference is unbelievable. Flows really easily and leaves a shiny finish.
Fascinating watching a brand new big box Amiga motherboard being born here in 2022. I never had nor saw Amigas back in th 1990’s but recently got into them and bought a Vampire V4 Standalone, then got the itch for a big box and so I have Hese building me AA3000+ and then A4000TX motherboards. Expensive hobby once you start adding in Zorro USB, 9000GPU, IDE controller boards and the custom chipset costs but it is fun and luckily classic Amiga OS keeps getting updates with 3141 and 32 in the last couple years. Great video and I enjoyed watching Part 1.
I instantly knew that signal diode part number.
It's honestly the only one I know offhand.
Was dreading the plot twist where it was installed backwards lol
Also I'd honestly be kinda mad if I had to special order the smallest version of the through-hole component I literally have hundreds of at all times.
Lovely job Glen! Really cool to see an Amiga 2000 emerging in a new form factor. Look forward to seeing the Zorro slots installed and in action.
For a keyboard you could use one of those CIA USB adapter thingys until you track down a proper A2000 keyboard.
Case-wise: Yeah a windowed box sounds good. In a modern case. Sort of an inverse sleeper!!
I have just subscribed. I thoroughly enjoyed your build. As an owner of several different Amigas, including a bunch of 2000s, I enjoyed the A2000 for so many years, that I am happy to see that it lives on. Even though my main 2000 has a GVP 030 board doesn't get much use any more, because I am using an 040 powered A3000, as well as a Cyberstorm powered A4000.
Amiga forever!
As someone who was perusing the concept of doing something similar with an A3000 recently, your content sure is timed well!
You did pretty well soldering all of those surface mount components. It's surprising how quickly one improves with a little practice.
I use similar techniques, and I haven't come across anything I can't solder with just a normal soldering iron and a hot air station. However, if it were me and I came across that tiny diode while ordering the parts, I probably would've downloaded the project from the hub for gits, and modified it to use a more normal sized footprint.
As for the case, I'm not a huge fan of RGB LEDs. Buuuut if you're going to have a case with a window, you'll need some lighting to be able to see it, so I suggest some kind of programmable RGB LED controller. The only other thing I'd suggest is that I've seen beige-ish (more white) coloured modern cases, so that might be a nice nod to the modern and retro contents.
Go crazy case, feel like this deserves something noticable.
For the keyboard case - the guy that made the Checkmate cases, also makes keyboard cases for external Amiga keyboards.
Holy chimichangas that's a lot of work, even with some of the items already populated. Consider this another vote for the full RGB treatment. :)
I could understand why jlpcb could not solder on the amega specific chips, but why could they not solder that mountain of capacitors for example?
Remembering back to when this was ordered they just didn't have stock of some components. In fact even getting some stuff to do ourselves was difficult. Parts were ordered from maybe 4 or 5 different places and some of it had to come from AliExpress. I suppose it just comes down to the current worldwide shortages.
very nice work, nothing better than spending all that time assembling a kit than seeing it working at the end.
Nice work, its a big board, so not to difficult to solder the SMD parts, they're fiddly but having a decent iron and the correct tools does help. I do this stuff for a living 🙂
So a 16-bit Dance Party? 🤣
Suppose you could call it that 🤣🤣
if Paula supported 16 bit samples could have challenged some major 90s rompler synths
Perhaps your best video yet! So much fun to watch. Thank you!
Thanks, glad to enjoyed it.
9:37 I do appreciate that somebody have a time and skills to recreate such a board but "come one". This is a large board. There is a lot of free space for bigger components.
I was inspired by this video and am part way though building 2 of these. Been asked to do a 3rd (converting a friends Amiga 500) with a black PCB. As I can only order a minimum of 5, there are some currently available on Ebay if anyone wants to give this a go for themselves.
Sorry for the late reply. Great to hear another few of these are being put together. Feel free to link you're eBay listing.
Wow! Flipped through your video - manually doing all that soldering, kudos to you, that is extremely hard, I know I wouldn't be able to manage it at this time without a huge amount of invested time. Amazing stuff.
Thanks. Recording it does make it take longer but I think for this one in total about 20 hours. I dare say that without the camera and if you just focused on it there would be no problem getting it all done in half that.
@@CRG Spent hours just getting a sinclair Ql microdrive bare wires back in the socket - cheap sinclair cutting corners! LOL!
I think you should go for the most over-the-top Amiga/Commodore case you can manage. Red/Blue. Chicken Lips. Amiga Logo; boing ball; etc
Great video Glen! Who's discord was it again? ;) Looking forward to part 2!
Can't remember, some guy who works on carpet 😉🤣
Thanks Chris for allowing us to take over your discord for all the discussion around this build. Part 2 coming this weekend I hope.
@@CRG Correction : Worked on carpet =D No worries! Thought you were deliberately ghosting me for a minute!
@@GadgetUK164 Absolutely not mate and please don't think that. I'm forever grateful for the support you and others from your discord have given me over the years.
YES - you hero Glen!! Got to be full RGB, the whole 9 yards.
Good work, looks quite a complicated adventure!
Despite the amount of work involved there is nothing overly complicated about it. Of course it gets more difficult when you throw the switch and nothing happens but at least that got sorted in the end.
Of course, we would (or I would) watch all 50 minutes. This is such a nice project. I have seen one for an A4000 in an EATX style too, so it's nice to know there are options. As for the OS: I think if you want to use a CD-ROM you need a newer OS version but I don't remember that for sure. I would personally try to get an as modern case as possible with a window (to see the RGB of course) that also has drive bays. As drive bays are pretty much history these days, this might be a difficult task but getting a floppy drive/Gotek and maybe a CD drive at the very least is nice. Especially since I don't see an external floppy connector on this particular board.
But either way, this is fascinating. Great job.
Drive bays in a modern case are really hard to find but at least with Amiga its easy enough to setup everything using WinUAE and especially if you have an easily accessible CF or SD card. I have a case in mind and hopefully it'll be here for the next part.
@@CRG Of course. I know you can also get USB interfaces for the Amiga, so you could also connect a Gotek and/or a CD drive that way, I think. Anyway, it's just what I would go for. I did myself manage to find a few modernish cases with drive bays. I just don't remember if they were regular ATX or EATX. Likely ATX. Looking forward to the next episode.
I have a few of these boards...
None of the needed parts though.
I do have a pair of working 2000's though...
Now I just gotta get em built!
If I ever decide to build one of my own, the PCB will be modern black and it goes in a Fractal Design case will tempered glass to showcase the TOASTER!
Oh, This video started as autoplay. Glad I didn't totally mis this ! I love the build from scratch amigas !
Thanks glad you enjoyed it. The second part is up now, finishing off the board and getting it into a case.
It would be nice to put it in a brand new A2000 case, but I do know of anyone doing those atm.
A nice alternative would be the Checkmate case.
Thanks for the video.
I can solder a bit, but it's depressing to watch me solder, so I won't try to solder a board myself. I take my hat off to your soldering skills.
It is somewhat comforting to know than all those custom chips will eventually expire, and that production of e-waste will finally stop.
By then we'll hopefully have modern replacements for the customs too 😉
Struggled to watching this build as I'm half way though my own project that I've had to leave hanging due lurgee, work, kids DIY and I'm desperate to get back to it to see if it will work! Seriously, great video and nice to get some soldering tips which will come in handy whenever I get back to my own project! Right, back to cooking...
Congratulations! A year back I went for the floppie209 board because every chip is in a socket and its easy to repair but I did take a look at this board, and it looks nice!
I just received my Denise ITX board but the density of all the smd scares me a little ;-)
For cleaning I used 2 liters of bio ethanol and a large tube.
Acrylic case to admire it from every angle!
This project seems so tempting. I have no idea where to get a donor chipset from though. Perhaps something for the future.
Easiest option is like I did and take it from an A500 or A500+ then add the bluster chip.
I've also got a dead A500Plus with battery damage like yours (10+1 power light flashes, but a BLACK screen - haven't figured that out). I was thinking about building an A500++ from it, but now the A2000 is kinda tempting....
Oh, and Full on RGB, definitely!!
Sounds like it could be Agnus at fault on your board but hopefully not as the 8375 is getting expensive.
The 2000 board is a great build and I'd highly recommend it if you have the space the full machine would need over a new wedge. It opens the door to Zorro expansions which is something I've never had the chance to play with.
The new case is on order and some lighting is included. The next part should be out this weekend.
Great vid. Especially luved the Adrians Digital Basement dancing.
Great Vid!!! Take a look at BeQueit cases there with RGB and look great also with out, I use the 900 case, and love the point you can switch sides where the glass is to show off the mainboard!
Great video! Love how you work through the minor problems you had and share the tips
Cool build. Good soldering technique. About the case: old style beige case but with a window and light rgb lights.
Your soldering tip is too large for those small SMT parts. Also, you should be using liquid flux, not paste flux. 🤔
Your best bet on cleaning the board would probably be Rainbow International. Operating in south Belfast / Bangor according ot the website. The pics on there show them dunking complete CD Players into an ultrasonic bath, so I reckon an a2000 mobo would definitely work as well. Awesome build series my man, looking forward to the second part!
Great video bud. I'd say a beige box with a window. To each their own.
Nice job.
I really like this idea of giving a second like to an Amiga 500 as an Amiga 2000.
For the case? I think I'm with you, and I wouldn't want a boring beige box. I'm not sure an Amiga really has the aesthetic of a full on gamer box either.
Maybe some kind of in-between? Something with some style, but still represents something from the old aesthetic. Since this is a 500 turned into a 2000... maybe the case should have some outward styling elements of a 500, but in "full box" 2000 model.
I honestly always liked that look of Amia 500/600 and the Plus/4 with the cooling vents.
I have a case in mind for this and all being well it'll feature in the next part this coming weekend.
PCBWAY seem to be more advanced than JCLPCB, Seems that is a place better than anywhere else l.e OSHPARK
I can't remember why we went with JLC over PCBWAY, it might just have been cost if I'm honest. Despite the warp in the board it works fine so I'm happy enough.
@@CRG My first thought was, that you should have to clamp it down or make a jig before any soldering. This might take the stress out of the soldering points after it’s mount in a case.
The A500+ 8375 Agnes is totally different Agnes from A500 8375. The pin out is even different. To upgrade an A2000 to 2MB CHIP RAM with an A500+ AGNES you need an adapter that remaps the pin outs and also adds they extra CHIP RAM. I think. You need like the 8375 (318069-16 only) (PAL) - Amiga 500 from Rev 6 (PAL); Amiga 2000 model B from Rev 6.4 (PAL) or any PAL 8372A from a Rev 6 A500. At least that is what I thought from first glance. I didn't watch the whole video but I just heard you say that you used the chips from and A500+.
This board has various jumpers to set which let you use any of the various Agnus chips.
The issue with this one which I initially blamed on a bad Agnus, with some later testing, turned out to be a bad Gary.
Great progress! Thanks for sharing the troubleshooting.
Nice project. I believe you can get a Keyrah board to convert an existing A500 keyboard into an external one with casings also being available. I can't remember where I saw it for sure but I think Neil from RMC might have done something like this when he set up an A1500 project. I know it's not a 'professional' cleaning method but many people have been using dishwashers to clean circuit boards with good results (just make sure it's properly dried off before powering it up).
As for the case, something like the NZXT H7 Flow might be a good fit. It is listed as being EATX compatible and is available in black, white or black and white. The black version sports a tinted window which could be a good shout since the basic green of the motherboard is not exactly pretty. It could end up looking a lot better in conjunction with some RGB fans or a lighting kit (since as an Amiga this system is unlikely to need much in the way of airflow). The biggest problem is that pretty much all modern cases don't allow for a floppy drive which is why you might end up looking on Ebay for an older case unless you are willing to use an external drive.
The A500 keyboard can be easily converted for use as an A2000 keyboard and thats my plan until I can find something better. I'm not sure if RMC has done a video on it but I know certainly GadgetUK has.
I don't think I could put this in the dishwasher. Yes I seen loads of folk do it but on the chance it'd go wrong for me I don't think its worth it.
I have a case in mind for this build and yes finding one with an external drive bay is near impossible but I hope I have a work around for that.
We "watched the video for almost 42 minutes", when you talked about that testing. I'd love to see those parts, too! Just mentioning!
Great video as usual!
As for the case: Please do not go the RGB route! Imho that destroys the classic aspect of the Amiga. Modern case would be okay with a window!
I toyed with the idea of including more of the testing footage etc but when it ultimately ended up just being a bad agnus I thought is there any point in dragging this out for a further 10-15 minutes. Given how long the video is I decided to cut it and just give the highlights. I'll keep it in mind for the future though. Thanks for the feedback.
As for the case I've got my eye on a nice Corsair 4000D black case with a tinted side window but will see what the rest think.
OK, I never heard of this project until today... might just get my hands on one. Great video, thanks for sharing your experience building it! Wonder if it would work with TF536 for example, would make a sweet setup.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video.
It does indeed work with the 536 and I'm considering building one myself for it. I would like one of the full size A2000 accelerator cards but like most things Amiga they are getting a bit too expensive.
Great video! This looks to be a great project. Very tempted to build one...
Great build Glen - Go 50/50 on the case, i.e. modify a nice modern gaming case with a window, BUT respray it beige :) Also, I have a good Karcher pressure washer that'll clean that board beautifully for you 👌👌😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don't think you need to worry about long videos, mate, at least for me, it didn't feel like it was much more 20min
Hope you get some Zorro sockets and get to test it out with even more hardware.
And I swear I shall pack up that 600 during this week
Excellent work CRG
TOP STUFF!
Watched it all the way through, even with one of my kids bugging me for ice-cream two thirds of the way in...
Want to build me one? I'm in Australia!
I have an ultrasonic cleaner that will fit your pcb, only problem is i'm in Glasgow and you would either need to bring it over or post it over.
I have an original 2000 with SCSI card and iirc a Ram expansion. Need to get it out and get back into it. Scsi2sd card. And I have some ram for the scsi card to install.
Do you know where the information about Chip memory addressing in Amiga is stored? I know Amiga can have two 2MB ram chips. can't this be changed? In which integrated circuit could this information be stored? PS: would it be possible to change this memory to a faster one? and for a bigger one?
Its handled by AGNUS, the maximum chip is 2mb I'm afraid. The only way to go above that is with emulation in WinUAE.
@@CRGI don't want an emulator! emulators are the way to nowhere. Dead end. Can't you somehow reprogram Agnus or trick him? is there any chance to replace it with a new integrated circuit? with new fast memory ?? who has documentation for Agnus? where is the Agnus documentation and diagrams? are you sure that the addressing does not go through Rom?
It's the dimensions of the board that decides the case you can use, My super micro server boards are best put in a old mac pro g5 case, the one with only 1 cdrom drive. Because the other cases I bought that was eatx Just wouldn't fit it. I bought one, thinking all eatx was same size. A old flip top ibm type case also a good choice for me and my dual cpu server boards, that are huge and not standard sized. The problem I had with the ibm pc case was some graphic cards/gpu's too tall with power cables attached. So how tall are the cards and cables going to be? Things to be considered. My mac pro 5 version of my server builds I think work the best and have the most room for things.. If you like Hacked retro. Seems to be the roomiest case not too expensive on ebay.
I have now since built it into a case which you can see in the part 2 video, the last 10 minutes or so if you want to skip to that part.
One thing I quickly learned is that EATX isn't a defined standard in terms of board size. this board is 330x305mm and the only way I could figure out what case to use was to look for one with 4 screw holes in a row for mounting the motherboard.
Brilliant video! Did you at any point think "I've taken on too much" and regret it? For the keyboard did you consider a checkmate?
Thanks, glad to hear you enjoyed it.
To answer your questions...
No, I didn't ever think it was too much work from the point of view of the assembly, if anything I enjoyed it with the anticipation of it being finished and booting. Of course when it didn't there was that sinking feeling of what could possibly be wrong and especially after I fixed the clock. Ultimately it worked though out so all good.
As for the keyboard, yes I looked at the checkmate but just now it's a little expensive. I'm already about £500 deep into this project and can't afford the £70 for it. Maybe after Christmas.
I bought the Atari 520 ST back in the day, but would have been happy to have had the Amiga instead. I had a blast coding in Assembler on the 68000.
Only something I can dream of doing to be honest. I did a bit of basic coding back in the day but wouldn't know were to start these days. Always enjoyed it though, maybe I should try to pick it up again.
this extension for visual studio lets you code on Windows 10. You can debug using an emulator and when your finished transfer the program to the Amiga.
Nice build :) reminds me to finish my A4000TX :/ Looking forward to the case, something I can use for my board mabye :) hope you find something vintage correct for the this board.
Hi, it's a very great job. Nice to see an eternal Amiga in 2022.
And what case to use with this mainboard? Cruel dilemna.
I hope next video very soon. Bye.
Thanks. Part 2 should be ready for Sunday. Everything is now here its just a matter of getting it done!
Nice work! :D I have also build A2000 board, but a rev.6.2 remake. I look forward to your next video about this machine :)
I would look for an old 'flip top' or rack mount case- as a starting point and maybe mod that - as its the closest your going to get to the tank of a case that the original '2000's came with, if you were so inclined you could always take a dremel and a couple of cans of paint to it for something unique
This is amazing.. now we need some one to start reproducing the custom chips. Seriously whoever owns the rights please release them into the public domain.
Certainly for AGNUS anyway, the originals and in particular the 8375 are getting very expensive.
That's a staggeringly big job, my compliments for your patience although I personally hate SMD type boards
A year ago I might have agreed with you but honestly now I think SMD is easier than through hole, especially when its the larger pitch SMD stuff. That SRAM and some of the chicken feed was tricky enough.
@@CRG You can use radial electrolytics instead of SMD, they make them small enough these days in those values. Just bend both leads 90 degrees outwards from the base of the cap then trim the excess. SMDs tend to leak, so I avoid using them
Ooh!! Can you fix my A4000T? Need Matze's active bus termination fix so I can run it at 100MHz without losing the top 2 Zorro slots.
I would say go rgb on the case but light it with the check mark colours.
That would be cool. I've now got the case and some stuff for inside it but there is always room to add a check mark later.
Hi CRG, I'm also looking for a big Amiga. I was wondering where you ordered the parts from. Thanks.
The GitHub is linked in the videos description, you can get the files needed to order boards along with the bom there.
Our parts came from various places, components were ordered from a mixture of mouser and digikey. Slots, sockets and the cpld for bluster came from AliExpress. The chipset came out of an old A500+.
We had to use so many outlets due to the component shortage.
I enjoyed watching this video. Great work. What about Checkmate case for it? Would it fit?
Thanks, glad to hear you enjoyed it.
Unfortunately I don't think the checkmate would work without a major redesign of the rear of that case.
There is a FPGA replacement for AGNUS and others follow from the project Amiga custom chip replacement project
Last I heard that was still a work in progress, is it finished now?
About the Case:
There is an issue with modern Cases. They don't have any external 3,5" bays that you need for the floppy or a GOTEK.
So that's an issue. Heck even internal 3,5" bays are becoming rare these days...
5¼" Bays are not as hard, so you need at least a 3½" to 5¼" Frame thing and then use a Case that is made that allows E-ATX and has a 5¼" Bay.
The be quiet Dark Base 900 would fit that, but that's not cheap...
So you might want to look for older SERVER/WORKSTATION cases perhaps?
Or go with a good old Desktop one...
Yes new cases with external drive bays are very hard to find. I've got a plan though.
@@CRG Silverstone Grandia GD-08 or GD09 perhaps? Though you need a 5¼" Adaptor, but that shouldn't be a Problem. A black FDD (Cover) is also something you might want.
Skinflint (UK Version of Geizhals) should give you a good idea of what you could get and has some nice search options as well.
What about a Lian Li case with window? Genuinely wonder the difference in heat between an original 2000 and the surface mount A2000.
I really wish someone would make this board for all thru-hole parts. Surface mount is low quality, consumer level garbage. One of the nice things about the Amiga 2000 computer is that its motherboard is high quality thru-hole. When you compare thru-hole parts to surface mount parts you can see the difference in quality. And yet, for some reason people are converting high quality thru-hole PCBs to low quality surface mount crap. WHY?! Are thru-hole parts getting hard to find, or what? I would buy at least 100 Amiga 2000 ATX motherboards if they used thru-hole parts, not the surface mount garbage. 🤔
Open frame case (ie thermaltake) - Could we have an approx cost of PCB + Kit of parts (excluding Amiga salvaged parts) ?
Of course and sorry for not covering it in the video. Cost for PCB and components was around £300. To date though I'm probably up to around £500 total with the donor A500+, PSU, Case, Gotek etc.
Great stuff! I always found myself really enjoying watching such re-creation of a retro tech using more modern parts, for me this is some sort of tech p#rn :)
If question about pc case is still open - I can propose a Phanteks Ethoo Pro lying around and collecting dust in my storage. It may provide that not too modern, but not too old, but with back window n stuff look for this build. Anyway thanks for interesting content :)
This is fucken cool. What would be cooler is if some or all of the chipset got replaced by CPLD's so we don't have to source pricy and scarce chips (and can have the max chip RAM configuration for cheap/get AGA in this form factor without ZIII).
Good work, what version of the pcb did you build? I have one laying around - still haven’t decided if I want to pay the hefty price for the parts…
You get a thumbs up for a 50 minute video. Another thumbs up for poking fun at Adrian Black. I love his channel, nice to see another creator also watching his channel. My thoughts is your project is NOT an original A2000. So you should go over the top. If this was a restore, then by all means go original.
Thanks, great to hear from someone who enjoys a longer format video. I've been a big fan of Adrian for a few years now. You might say he has been somewhat of an inspiration for this channel.
great upload!
Thanks!
Good dance moves at 45:50 !
16bit dance party 😉
Couple things I noticed....
No video slot on far right?
Guess they moved it and put in SVideo or something?
Also, the 68000's position could be bad for people who use a CSA Derringer 030, CSA Mega Midget Racer 030, PP&P 040, M-Tec 020 or 030...
Basically, anything that goes into the 68000 socket is gonna ram into placement issues on whatever gets installed in that slot.
I have design ideas for drop in motherboard replacements for A1000, A500, and A2000 (and maybe the 2000 tower).
Only the 1000 and 500 would have the 68000 socket anyways yet I calculated the size and position where the above mentioned boards (and maybe some of that newer stuff they got out now) would fit without an issue.
My designs are based on an old dream back in the 1980's that me and my brother had... essentially wishing C= would come out with as board revisions.
They never did such revisions but it was always cool to want this or that...
So the minimum modern stuff I could use from now... the better.
Maybe pay homage to Jay Miner with a set number that have his image on the board (wouldn't be able to sell those but give them away).
The others would all have a message and memorial written on the back of the board.
The boards would use 30 pin sims and 68010's (for the 1000 and 500).
Up to 8mb of Fast RAM for those old CPUs (they can take it).
2mb Chip RAM on board.. with auto sensing (or jumpers) for whichever Agnus is installed (either the 512k, the 1024k, or the 2,048k one)
Separated into 3 banks. 0 = 512k, 1 = 512k, 2= full 1mb.
There's reasons for that....
Also the CPU's would be going 16mhz exactly... or a jumper for 8... or an option to go 7.16 (standard) if one of those other boards requires exactly that setting.
(Boards like the M-tec 020 would require the 7.16 speed because it double that for its own chips. The CPU can handle it... the GALs or PALs may not be able to.. least thats what I was told).
On the 1000 the front expansion would have four 30 pin sockets... the main board would have four.
IDE interface if it will work with 1.3...
The only modern changes would be to add a VGA output... and room to allow for a HDMI (for someone who gets that Denise to HDMI board)...
Color out would be S-video maybe?
The 500 would also have four 30 pin sockets on the maim board and four 30 pin sockets on the trap door card.
It would also have the same CHIP RAM configuration of three banks.
The 2000, variation I planned to not even have a 68000 socket at all.
Just a 020/030, 881/882 sockets with the initial CPU being an 020 running at motherboard clock speed of 28mhz.
It would still have a CPU slot.. and a 2nd video card slot would be added... (Had a friend that wanted a 2nd video slot so bad... he had a Toaster...)
The 2000 could be upgraded with an 030 since they are pin for pin compatible.
The 2000 Tower would be a weee bit different.
It would have an 040 on the motherboard.
With 72 pin sockets up to ... whatever works LoL
Remember the entire idea was to just make these three with mostly the same stuff that was around at the time they either came out or were going strong.
I think... whatever was around 87-89 range.... 30 pin simms had been around since '82...
72's did show up some time later... but for the tower..
My goal was to make exactly 4,096 of each of these.
4,096 represents something significant to some Amigans.
It was the amount of colors in HAM mode that they bragged about when it first came out.
Seems to be a good number.
Plan was to try and sell 4,000 of each...
and give away to certain folks the 96 "Jay Miner" imaged boards (that are behind glass and hang on a wall).
Alas, with my bad health.. these probably won't happen at all.
I think it is smarter to make the boards and get most of the parts like caps, resistors, connectors, sockets... maybe the 16mhz 68010s...
I think they'd be honorable upgrade replacement boards even though they wouldn't be extreme like you could design.
Hell they got A3000 and A500 AGA monster drop ins now that kick butt.
Anyways...
This board isn't designed to fit in the original case, its design in an EATX form factor so the video slot has moved position to what would be the first slot on a PC motherboard. The 2000 also isn't really meant to be upgraded by replacing the CPU in its socket, rather the CPU slot should be used and there are adaptor cards out there that allow you to use the 68k socket accelerators in the slot.
You're plan for your own boards sound interesting. Good luck should you ever decide to build them. I know the idea behind this board was to keep it as original as possible while fitting the new layout and allowing maximum choice in terms of agnus chips.
Nice job! But knife solder tip is much beter for smd components!
Dood the Mac Classic Reloaded MoBo just shipped. You can clear most flux like near ultrasonic cleaning by using nail polish remover.
RGB, maybe you can get the amiga tick in there somewhere.
When someone asked have you every build you own pc? Yes one new Amiga 2000 :)
And this time building it wasn't simply plugging in components 😉
@@CRG Yeah thats what i meant but they same i build this :) really iam sure you just put parts in :)
Instead of having 68k CPU could it be made to have pistorm embedded right on the motherboard or it doesn't make any sense?
There's certainly nothing stopping you fitting a pistorm either into the 68k socket or the CPU slot.
In conversation with the designer of this board about a few things he stated that he wanted to keep it as original as possible which I can fully appreciate. For example a PS2 keyboard interface or scan doubler on board would have been nice but there are other solutions for that.
@@CRG the thing is, 68k are getting harder to get by the day, therefore I thought that since this is a costum board it would make sense to embed pistorm on it
Does anyone have documentation for these specialized integrated circuits and 68060 processors? Where can I download documentation for these chips? Does anyone have any information on this?! Because I would love to see how they built it back then.
Brilliant... Love it I subscribed
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
@@CRG hi I lived in UK for ouver twenty years I worked for an electronic company in London love it saying that I have left UK ouver twenty five years ago.. I have electronics and conputurrs as a hobby.. My eyes are not very good I am getting old.. With some good lighting I still gett some projects done.. Wish you well
Take it to the NeXT level RGB and all 😊
Thanks for the video. Nice build. The 8375 Agnus is so overpriced these days. Wish they made an FPGA replacement or something
I couldn't agree more, some are asking £120 now for an 8375. Still not given up on the dead one, hopefully it can be brought back.
@@CRG £120!! That's insane! On two of my A500 ++ replica boards I used Liv's Diet Agnus adapter to convert from 8375 to 8372A because I refused to pay insane prices for the 8375. There are very few/if any OCS/ECS whdload slaves these days that require more than 1MB chip + fast ram.
Someone was working on an FPGA replacement but work was slow due to the lack of documentation.
Wow, what an amount of work!!!! Respect for this!! o7 Cmdr 🙂
nice work
Thanks
An ATX case Amiga Motherboard with a x86 card in one of the slots with an i7 processor on it would be nice.
I have a case in mind for this board although its not beige, does have a window though.