You have one of the only videos that actually explains the FEEL of the different plate materials rather than just the sound. Thank you very much for this! In my opinion, far too many videos these days are focused on the sounds of the boards more than the feel, which should be equally important.
"My PP is gonna feel wildly different from your PP." True that. On another note, it's great to hear someone actually dive into the topic from a high altitude perspective. Thank you!
Thank you so much for the video. I’m a newbie to mechanical keyboard. The more I dig the more I need to know! And now i have the concept of what plate to get if I were to modify ❤️🙏😃
Thank you, really love your comprehensive explanations. Could you please cover pcb and case foams/silicones, reasons for with or without foams, etc? And keycap profiles in the future?
I feel like keyboards have reached 'audiophile' levels, but am glad there are channels out there that can explain and compare things that affect sound, like Plates.
16:45 "My pee-pee is gonna feel different than your pee-pee" You earned a sub with this. Well ... not this part in particular ... the whole video ... well, forget I said anything.
PC became a more popular plate over the course of the pandemic. It was also popularized because of several beginner-oriented boards like the GMK67 and the chasing of the deep low-pitch sound that most folks call 'thocc' But things change, and now the high-pitch sound that folks call 'clack' is in with switch manufacturers like HMX coming into the fold, just goes to show that there's always a little something for everyone.
Hello I want to buy the Nj98 keyboard but I don't know what specs to choose, these are the options: *steel plate - gateron milky yellow pro *Steel plate - BOX taro ice cream pro *Brass plate - gateron milky yellow pro What do you recommend? I would still like it to not sound so much
Nice vid Simon. Im still new to the hobby so it's nice to see explanatory videos like these! Are there any plans for more content like this in the future?
Hey man , Im new to this hobby. I just bought Keychron V1 (tray) then I just learned about the gasket mount on Q1. Im thinking of buying PC plate to use on my V1 but I don't know if I will get the typing experience as the gasket on Q1? I have never tried a gasket mounted keyboard and I don't really know how it feels. Do you have any opinion on Tray mounted keyboard with PC plate vs gasket mounted keyboard with metal plate?
Assuming you've already reduced as much as possible with a lighter case, and thinner caps. Sure I guess? Kinda goes against the spirit of plate changes, since those are done for sound and feel before all else. PP/POM and other plastic plates are very light as well, as is FR4, so I suggest you explore those before commiting to a more complicated plate to work with
I am still incredibly happy with MX Blacks (60g L springs, L&F) on alu. I love the slight chalky sound with overall such a poppy, bright and positive sound signature. I would say, for a lack of a better word, that this board sounds "happy".
Thanks for the video! Very interesting. What about copper plates? Rare I know… One thing: I was quite surprised when you said brass plate bottom out was softer than alu. In my limited experience it would as harsher than Alu….
Welcome to keyboard hell, where all logic goes out the window From what I can tell in your sound test videos, the keycaps may be effecting the sound a lot more than anticipated, domikey sounds deeper than GMK
Most Alps enthusiasts prefer clickies in a firm plate, typically steel or aluminum. Many vintage Alps boards get a big part of their sound from the large plastic case and steel plate.
For my fellow ADHD folks, timestamps:
2:30 - Plateless (No Plate)
4:45 - Half Plate
6:32 - Aluminum Plate
10:00 - Brass Plate
12:25 - Steel Plate
14:35 - Polycarbonate
16:40 - Plastic Plate (POM, ABS, PP, PE)
18:06 - Carbon Fiber Plate
20:32 - FR4 Plate
22:45 - Acrylic Plate
24:00 - Plate Cuts
25:50 - Plate Thickness
You’re the real MVP for this.
LMAO you read my ADHD mind. I was literally about to just click away from the video because the sections weren't marked, thank you!
Thanks
This is so helpful! I had to listen to some of the plate because of this made it easier! 💕💕
You have one of the only videos that actually explains the FEEL of the different plate materials rather than just the sound. Thank you very much for this! In my opinion, far too many videos these days are focused on the sounds of the boards more than the feel, which should be equally important.
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informative and legit useful information, i’ve been in the hobby for over year now and this is the first good video about plates, thanks simon :)
"My PP is gonna feel wildly different from your PP."
True that.
On another note, it's great to hear someone actually dive into the topic from a high altitude perspective. Thank you!
EXACTLY what I was looking for! Thanks for the detailed explanation!
this was extremely informative. having cabinets full of customs behind you is a nice touch to your credibility
Thank you so much for the video. I’m a newbie to mechanical keyboard. The more I dig the more I need to know! And now i have the concept of what plate to get if I were to modify ❤️🙏😃
Thanks, I was looking at getting a custom plate cut and this really helped aid my design and material selection.
Thank you, really love your comprehensive explanations. Could you please cover pcb and case foams/silicones, reasons for with or without foams, etc? And keycap profiles in the future?
unsubbed, he didn't talk about tectonic plates
also car plates 😢
also ceramic plates
I came to learn about dinner plates. Very disappointed.
- I can't deal with this right now...
- oh, do you have a lot on your plate?
- 84 switches, 84 keys and 3 stabs to be exact...
- what?
- hmm?
Or snow flakes😢
Thanks for the time stamps, really easy to identify there I need to watch from 😂
I gotchu bro
If i ever wanted a louder sound i suppose i should go with CF instead of Alu?
Sure, or thinner caps, or a thinner sounding switch!
I feel like keyboards have reached 'audiophile' levels, but am glad there are channels out there that can explain and compare things that affect sound, like Plates.
Thanks for this man! This was Extremly informative!
Thanks for the detailed explanation. Your description of the FR4 plate is spot on 👌It's not as flexible as I thought.
16:45 "My pee-pee is gonna feel different than your pee-pee"
You earned a sub with this. Well ... not this part in particular ... the whole video ... well, forget I said anything.
Giggle
Thick acrylic plates in stacked builds are my fave. Very unique sound.
16:44 blacksimonBlushie
Have you tried copper plates? I am a brass enjoyer and am intrigued by the material.
Hey Simon, thanks for this video,
you've got a new sub after this one. 👍
Funny that I’m up to 7 keyboards now and not one of them has an Alu plate. I wonder if PC is more standard at this point. At least for customs.
PC became a more popular plate over the course of the pandemic. It was also popularized because of several beginner-oriented boards like the GMK67 and the chasing of the deep low-pitch sound that most folks call 'thocc'
But things change, and now the high-pitch sound that folks call 'clack' is in with switch manufacturers like HMX coming into the fold, just goes to show that there's always a little something for everyone.
How does Cooper compare to Aluminum with the same thickness , wrt feel and sound?
What about Copper plates??
Hello I want to buy the Nj98 keyboard but I don't know what specs to choose, these are the options: *steel plate - gateron milky yellow pro *Steel plate - BOX taro ice cream pro *Brass plate - gateron milky yellow pro What do you recommend? I would still like it to not sound so much
But which material is best for eating off of?
aria tkl i think
which plate is your personal favorite?
I like a lot of plates, depending on the board and target build.
Overall though, plastic (PP, PE, POM, PC) do quite well
i love you simon
Thanks man
Nice vid Simon. Im still new to the hobby so it's nice to see explanatory videos like these! Are there any plans for more content like this in the future?
Sure, why not
This is a good one Thanks For That
Hey man , Im new to this hobby. I just bought Keychron V1 (tray) then I just learned about the gasket mount on Q1.
Im thinking of buying PC plate to use on my V1 but I don't know if I will get the typing experience as the gasket on Q1?
I have never tried a gasket mounted keyboard and I don't really know how it feels.
Do you have any opinion on Tray mounted keyboard with PC plate vs gasket mounted keyboard with metal plate?
What if you type with steel fingers.
Hey man, do you think it's worth to change plate for weight reduction? Thinking about using CF plate for that.
Assuming you've already reduced as much as possible with a lighter case, and thinner caps. Sure I guess?
Kinda goes against the spirit of plate changes, since those are done for sound and feel before all else.
PP/POM and other plastic plates are very light as well, as is FR4, so I suggest you explore those before commiting to a more complicated plate to work with
Simon which plate is going to make my board sound happy?
Try carbon fiber
I am still incredibly happy with MX Blacks (60g L springs, L&F) on alu. I love the slight chalky sound with overall such a poppy, bright and positive sound signature. I would say, for a lack of a better word, that this board sounds "happy".
Lord of the plates
great vid, thank you for the education
Best plate for fluid RGB?
Great vid!
Are plates unique to a specific case or plates and cases are universal ?
There are certain universal plates for tray mounts, but most plates are specific to their respective keyboards
In terms of plastic, CF, and plateless, what is the order of low pitch to high pitch?
LOW | Plastics < CF < plateless | HIGH
Keep in mind that build matters a lot too, so your results may differ
Do you think an alps plateless build would work?
No Tungsten Carbide Plate?
I cant believe you didn't mention water plates...
I prefer fire plates
Any thoughts on Geon's laminated plates?
Do you know how UHMWPE plates compare to PE and POM?
i havent watched the video yet but i hope you talk about air plate
yes omg
🤣
16:44 teeheehee
How do I g80?
What shelves are those behind you?
Ikea billy
The classic keebinet
@@Blacksimon I appreciate the response! It looks so good!
is it safe to put your plates in the dish washer
wonderful
Thanks for the video! Very interesting.
What about copper plates? Rare I know…
One thing: I was quite surprised when you said brass plate bottom out was softer than alu. In my limited experience it would as harsher than Alu….
i try FR4 plate for my Frog is higher pitch compare to Aluminium using same switch for both plate
Welcome to keyboard hell, where all logic goes out the window
From what I can tell in your sound test videos, the keycaps may be effecting the sound a lot more than anticipated, domikey sounds deeper than GMK
@@Blacksimon thanks , later i try swap the keycaps and see :D
i need that tee.
what type of plate and plate material would be best for sound?
It varies with each keyboard and depending on what sound you like and switches you use.
brass plate is softer than aluminum plate? I thought brass plate would be more stiff?
What plate material sounds best with alps clickies?
Most Alps enthusiasts prefer clickies in a firm plate, typically steel or aluminum. Many vintage Alps boards get a big part of their sound from the large plastic case and steel plate.
Hello Plate Enjoyer Hello Mr Simon
Have A Nice Day Engineering
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Hello thocctober Enjoyers
totally 💯 agree with fr4 being the dementor of plates
I love when my keyboard sounds POPPY
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@@Blacksimon à thế à?
Okay my definition of thocky is a deep, creamy sound with an ever so slightly clack. Basically, perfect inks.
What inks?
@@jammies701 its a joke, read the article "What the thock is clack' by TheremingGoat
@@gillsejusbates6938 ahh ok lol
I am a plateless enjoyer, but I don’t solder 🫠
mr incredible becoming uncanny phase: 69