FAKE! 100,000mAh solar powerbank capacity test and opening.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2017
- While it would be really nice if this was a real 100000mAh (100Ah) power bank, it would be defying current battery technology quite dramatically. This is probably good, because a cheapo 100Ah power bank failing would be very "exciting".
The odd thing is that beyond the very fake rating the unit is quite nicely made and seems to work well.
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Now waiting for that 1kAh solar power bank!
1 KmAh
1 KilometerAmpereHours? O_o
That one is 0.1 kAh
No, one Kilo amp hours.
Kilo=1,000
Oops, sorry, i meant 100KaH. Thanks for informing me!😊
I had one of these exact ones that i left on my window for a couple weeks.
Turns out it had no overcharge protection so the battery ended up almost twice as thick as it should be and pushed the case open.
Quality stuff
LoL
Or maybe it get swollen because the heat. Lithium hates heat. If they got exposed with heat they will degrade and swollen
Getting one, i like fireworks
it will grow into a 100k mAh battery in no time
Not sure I like the idea of leaving a Lithium power bank in direct sunlight.
Thats what i was thinking.
Same here.
It's for camping, charge your phone and start the campfire at the same time.
The problem with the Lithium is not the sunlight actually the reaction is with oxygen. Just sayin' =}
@@satisfactory4097 It's the heat
Wait.. Chinese seller misrepresented their product?! No way! They never do that! I fully expected this to put out 100amp!
You should see about getting your hands on some of those jump start your car booster packs and taking them to bits..
Slight stumbling block with the starter packs. I'd actually want to test them at their rated current and the one I have here is rated for "2000A" (apparently.)
Between the 2 jump packs that I got they had 3 packs just under 3000mAh. But the direct connection from the packs to the booster socket is somewhat beefy. I've jumped dead cars all the way up to a 5 liter ford V-8 in -5C.
They were stated as being 60,000mAh+ and something like 600A boost. They boost cars so no complaints.
Something of note was the voltage difference on the fully charged packs. One was 12.5v and one was 16v. The 16v is what I use to boost cars.
Unless it's a diesel. Then low temperature plays a big role (on top of displacement and battery depletion).
I wonder if two of them (jump starter packs) in series could be used to jump start a plane via the GPU socket ;) Overloading lithium batteries near a large amount of jet fuel - that could end badly LOL :)
It can do 2000A, for 10femtoseconds. Then it explodes.
"Wonderful life because of you" in the front... maybe the seller is making meellions off these frauds and it's a small hint he just bought a new Ferrari and is thus having a great life because of you? :D
petti78 Well I hope the Ferrari was fake and the seller got scammed. They bought a Ferrari with a W25 250,000,000 ml engine.
qazwsx edcrfv maybe a ferrari replica?
I don't know why but when I read millions spelled like that I said it liked Donald trump
This channel is banned in China.
Thomas H 😂😂😂 Oh I get it
Clorox Bleach ? :/
hahahahahahaha wouldn't surprise me
Thomas H *big boom* after dismantling Chinese ban on my channel, featuring a hacker friend
@@Fee.1 I read that as "... hacker fried."
Hi Clive, I believe you got the wrong idea with Chinese labeling. It has nothing to do with the capacity of one charge. They are labeled with the total lifetime output, so this one will probably self destruct after approximately 20 charges.
It's funny how they avoid telling the whole truth on stuff like this. When you see UltraFire batteries for sale, they're listed with the total cumulative capacity of the cells you're buying.
@@userPrehistoricman I'd say the honest part is the name "Ultrafire", but they don't even hold enough juice to reliably catch fire.
@@userPrehistoricman I bought some AA lithium batteries from a certain Country marked 1500mAh and found on testing they were 250mAh and interestingly they only lasted around 8 charge discharge cycles. They probably lasted a bit longer than the expected 6 cycles as I manually charge lithium's on my bench supply at C/10 to 4.2v per cell a less aggressive regimen than most chargers. That was the last time I bought unbranded lithium's.
I nearly bought one of these, until I remembered I could just buy TP4056, a power bank module, a real solar panel, and some 18650 and a little box.
26650 cells even better, and a small enough panel to keep the build to a compact size. but still a reasonable charge time., and so much more fun to make it yourself 👍
I have that changer , I wonder about the 18650 batteries where i can get real ones .
@@ytytiuiu2590 notebook batteries 🤫
"wonderful life because of you" - That's a top 10 entry!
So, my 1.21 jiggawatt powerbank I got off Ebay is probably a fake?
No. I tested those ones and they were real. It took quite a long time to charge though.
Good to know! My stupid history teacher forgot to charge up the Super Conductive Caps before the trip. Didn't want to be stuck here during the... Um, forget I said that.
What is jiggawatt?
Billy Haley It's from Back To The Future
CO Jones I can power my time machine with 10 of those power banks.
Edit: I only need one, but When you time travel in time and space the power banks loose energy very very fast
Hi clive. I had the same powerbank laying on the windowsill. I had put it there a couple of weeks ago and forgot about it, but today it reminded me with a loud bang and hiss !!!
The solar panel was ejected from the case by the swollen cells who vented their smelly gasses....
Bought one of these for my wife when she goes on business trips and she loves it. Thanks BigClive!\
I've taken electronics classes and messed with Arduino. Various other micro controllers. It's amazing how much they don't teach. I've learned so much from your videos. Applied science for the win
"This is the largest power bank ever to witness an inauguration, _period_"
Well, ^I^ get it! :D !
KarlBunker we're getting big league batteries
I like how it is already a usual thing now lmao
I agree, I have one as well and have had it for over a year now. It still works well and is very much a help when needed.
So how many more of these power banks with solar panels do you need before you can stick them all to the roof and go off-grid?
these would be a very inefficient solar panel for that, probably need to fill a football field for it, but around 500 would give you 10kw of power backup, enough to get you through a day or 2 so long as solar is giving you some power during the day , if you had 3kw of solar you can scrape through if you have that kind of storage, but those panels are much worse than proper solar panels.
another sarcasm comment being responded in a smart way...
I don't know if I should laugh or cry... funny to say the least though ^^
if he had asked should he stick it up his bum, id have had an easier answer ^
The cost and maintenance of the recommended Halon fire suppression system might deter your efforts :D !
Matt Tester Two for a house sized in China
Why did I only just get this notification when there are 17 month old comments?
Are you quiet alright there?
Either you are are drunk, I am or youtube. Probably the latter.
Time travel?
This was just published. There couldn't be any 17 month old comments. YT, however, has a somewhat third-rate processing system so if yours showed 17 months, that's where the error must be.
He's probably mistaken 17 mins for months
1:48 where the packaging says: "wonderful life because of you". It's exactly what a fake good seller would say to her customers after they've shelled out their good money for bad products. I like this twisted irony. Really.
Well you answered my question about the led lights being counter productive whilst charging this particular power bank in the sun!
Everytime i tried it with some charge in it already it just ended up completely flat!
Many thanks 😆
Seems like a close call. My 120000mAh "powerbank" (120Ah @ 3.7V) weights over 2.5kgs and is about 4 times thicker.
It would be cool to see how much current is actually flowing from the panel into the cells after losses, and if actually a full charge is ever achievable, maybe after 6 months?
I bought a very similar one of these almost 10 years ago, it was cheap like dirt. One of the ports gave up soon after I bought it, but the thing still works. It charges my gopro batteries when I'm out and about and when I camp overnite at shows the led stops me from pissing on my feet in the dark. It does take 4 whole bright Summer days to recharge though. I do have better power banks that I charge in the car, but if your hiking or cycling for days on end then, a solar powered bank does have a use. But buy the best you can afford, not the cheapest out there. And always consult Uncle Clive first 👍
Interesting case design for a power bank. It's exactly like some of the cheap external 2.5" harddrive cases - same 4 screws and lid locking together.
Would love to see an Anker powerbank teardown. I have the Astro E2 16750mAh one and it's brilliant. Uses Panasonic cells and doesn't take too long to charge on my 6 port 60w USB desktop charger also from Anker.
Chronic's Tech Stuff I personally prefer RAVpower over Anker. Both are great brands though.
@@alaeriia01
The products from RAVpower and Anker share an odd similarity. First thing I thought "Are those rebranded Anker products?"
@@Sypaka I have no idea. RAVpower is a brand owned by SunValleyTek, and it is possible they are the OEMs of the Anker powerbanks.
Love you Clive
A big thanks to you Clive, I got a couple of questions correct on university challenge tonight. They were about resistors. 😉
For future teardowns it may be interesting to measure the quiescent current as well. Thank you anyway, I really like your videos.
2600mAh in this size? that's really bad.
but Anker is a scam. They think asking 50 bucks for 20.000 mah is okay
2×2600 learn how to hear and read!
There are 2x 2600mAh cells. It isn't "really bad" at all, for their size it's actually standard pretty much. From the video each cell looks around 8cm x 6.5cm x 0.5cm. For such a size 2600mAh is about standard. You shouldn't compare to the newest mobile phone batteries either, as a new 2600mAh mobile phone lithium battery will be around 25% smaller than these and still have the same capacity. But for regular lithium packs not used in phones then it's pretty comparable and standard.
Avery-John lipstick size? Its almost the same size as a standard can of coke.
Jake Shire maybr that's thier lipstick
4.7V idle, dropping to 4V under load? No, that can't "confortably" output 2A. Anything outside 4.75V...5.25V is out of spec.
I love the way all the sellers of these things are outing each other jazzing the specs up!
Biggest one I've bought was actually not too bad with three 2600mA lipo cells in parallel when I opened it up...... also was the best firework I've ever bought when I put a screwdriver through it fully charged out the back garden last November lol!
I still think powerbanks based around 18650 cells are the best option though, I've always found those based on flat lipo cells don't last very long. Either the charge control electronics start failing (safe) or the cells just fail, but I've yet to find one that'll charge for this mythical >500 cycles figure🤔
This channel is almost more addicting than that "Crazy Commuter" iPhone game
Please test chinese brand power banks (xiaomi, Teclast, Rock, ...) And when you do output tests please inform us what voltage it can hold at different loads. Its important, because of the voltage drop in usb cables. You need a stable output voltage of at least 4.95V for phones to enable fast charging. Love your work. Thanks.
I just noticed that i didn't pay enough attention and you actually ramped the current up with the voltage showing this time. please do that everytime. Its very useful.
Check again,, and this time believe it's 100,000mAh. :) I'm going to buy 10 and power my car.
You only need 3, mah is not the power output, it is the battery life per charge, wire 3 not in parallel, and they will go from 5v output to 15v, if you wire them in parallel you will have 5v that will last days.
There really is nothing better than a powerbank that enjoys the latest designs in fashion.
And remember Clive, Power Bank - wonderful life because of you!
Oh its 100AH alright, just gotta use it at 0.2V
You've got it backwards, Hinata. Think about it ;) If I were to build a Powerbank using a Car Battery at 12 V 100 AH (1200 WH ), it would convert to 327 AH at 3,7 V (1200 WH ).
But that's what it is, isn't it? There is a battery pack at 3,7 V and a transformer behind it. That ups the voltage to 5 V. If we change that to 0,2 V output, the 5200 mAH would increase to about 96 AH. Unless I'm getting something totally wrong, that is. Same thing when you put two cells in series, the voltage doubles and the amp hours stay the same, while putting them in parallel doubles the amp hours while the voltage stays the same. But both options put out the same amount of watt hours.
You can't "transform" DC current. To lift 3.7volt to 5volt you need an inverter. The inverter specs would then set the current output limits to the USB socket.
Lowering the output voltage of the inverter would not increase the output current since the limiting factor would be the capabilities of the switching components such as the mosfet or diode devices.
Sorry about using the wrong word. Its "Wandler" in German. I just googled it, the right word is "converter". That's what I meant.
Also, I'm not talking about current (A ), I'm talking about capacity (AH ). So even if the converter limits the output to, let's say 1 A, the battery still delivers 96 AH at 0,2 V. It would just take 96 hours to discharge. 3,7 V 54 mA goes in the converter, 0,2 V 1 A comes out of the converter. For 96 hours, that is 5,2 AH in and 96 AH out. Thus original point proven.
HinataSoul That's a moot point. The inverter in this device will be a boost inverter. The aim is to increase the voltage from the battery level to 5 volts. A buck inverter will not be part of the circuit, so there is no way this device would go down to any value below the voltage of the battery.
So, Clive, what you're saying is that I can't run a semi-truck off of four of these things?
I had to burst out LOLing at 1:43 "The power bank enjoys fashion design. . . " Chinglish at it's best here, even funnier than the fake 100,000mAh!
Really enjoy your videos even though my electronics knowledge is virtually nil. You're definitely a man to know during the zombie apocalypse! ;)
I've seen some rated for 600,000 mAh.
The Tyttuutface SEND THEM TO CLIVE!!
ELECTRONTHORP2 Nope, that's μAh, I think
cleaver idea
Yeah, m8 www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Dual-USB-600000mAh-Portable-Solar-Power-Bank-LED-Charger-Battery-For-Phone/222156913354?_trksid=p2045573.c100505.m3226&_trkparms=aid%3D555014%26algo%3DPL.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3Dd439946ef6694914ad7275f08aab3ca7%26pid%3D100505%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26 Good Deaaallll
ZarkexTech That's one absolutely shitty image for the yellow one.
Wasn't that voltage (4.5V) a tad low?
Против Глобал
You might be right but that is the minimum before load, this PSU started off at BELOW the minimum, (Not Good)
So my question remains, the 4.5V is a tad low is it not.
While I'm at it, the PSU started at 4.5V, you say the minimum is 4.75V so why did you bother to question my comment when the PSU was already under the limit??????
Yes, definitely low. However, most devices that charge through a USB cable will accept a pretty large voltage drop. Many cheap cables are made with wet string inside, so the voltage drop across the cable can be at least a volt, especially at an amp or two.
Most of my phones and tablets seem to aim for a minimum voltage of 4.80v then they stop increasing their current draw. So at 4.50v I doubt many devices will charge, maybe they will just draw 500ma?
Yeah, I don't think my phone would charge at this voltage.
most modern devices will charge at 500ma but they will show the message not charging, they will charge if screen and not hammering the processor, but an i pad would take 16 hours at that rate
"The power bank enjoys fashion design."
It's important for people, and inanimate objects, to have hobbies.
Is 'tad' the unit of measurement of light intensity? 😂
Great video thanks
Usually if you tell them, they give you at least half a refund. I usually bargain saying "I'll pay you half, since the capacity is half what you stated" They usually do it.
I just say, you falsely advertised. Please provide a shipping label for me to ship this back to you and I will file a complaint against you on ebay.
They 100% of the time will fight for a message or two, then issue a full refund. The only way to stop these kind of deceptive practice is to report everything and always demand your right and protection as an ebay buyer.
accountname0 That works too! Eventually they'll learn that accurate listings still get sales
accountname0 Did they ask you what size label you wanted ?
qazwsx edcrfv no. They don't want you to send it back because the return shipping alone is more than the cost of the product.
qazwsx edcrfv Usually they just print one. Not sure.
I've got one of these but mine says 3000000mAh on the back! Seriously.
Damn. I must have got the mini version.
Mine is 20000 @ $15US (off amazon US), so I don't feel as ripped off as others. However I just got it and now it won't recharge with the microUSB. I got to mess around with the solar panel, but was going to send it back.
hello Clive I wonna tell you that I am very happy to find you on you tube I am delighted to look your videos and your comment about all the items you revieuw wonna send you the best wishes from Holland
I have this exact charging bank that I bought 5 yrs ago. 2015. Its ratings are exacturated. I can say this for sure . #1) This unit is very reliable. #2) it charges pretty good off of solar cell. With a full charge it will charge your phone up 100% however , ONLY ONCE THEN NEEDS CHARGING AGAIN.
I don't share your favourable view - you can get a brand name power bank e.g. Anker for 12 Pounds on Amazon and you don't have to wonder whether the damn thing is gonna burn your house down... and that solar cell is probably completely useless, i.e. it's gonna take forever to charge. You gotta be crazy if you go for this Chinese crap where you can have a brand name item for the same money with good cells.
Baerchenization I was about to say something like this. Not only are the branded ones safer, they also are smaller and built better and support quickcharge. You could still buy chinese stuff to save a few pennies though. Just buy Aukey, Xiaomi or BlitzWolf from a reputable seller. I think Aukey is actually sold through amazon in the west and it isn't even much more expensive than straight from China.
Baerchenization Anker is Chinese.
Is it very difficult for you to distinguish between Chinese crap, which is some random, non-descript company selling utter crap for the sake of it and something being manufactured in China, but to a standard? Must be so, or how else are we to understand your comment? Btw "Anker was founded in 2009, the brainchild of a group of friends working at Google." Does not look Chinese to me, but even if it is, you still completely missed the point.
+Baerchenization - The point is you can't trust any of them if they don't specify what make and model of cells they use, and specify output current capacity too so you can verify their claims. This USB power bank industry is one of the few where they can deceitfully tell you the internal battery capacity instead of the output capacity like any other power supply industry has rated for decades.
+Baerchenization, I have a power bank with the solar cell and it works pretty well at keeping the batteries topped up since I don't use it that often. The only problem is that keeping these batteries at 100% is actually pretty bad for them and they ended up swelling up. I was going to replace the batteries but I couldn't find any for less than the cost of a new unit.
You're making weird pauses.
Did you record it while holding the buttplug in? :P
Anyone else get an ad for Wish in the pre-roll. Great product placement
I literally got the ad for this power bank at the beginning of this video. Nice
100.000mAh solar portable powerbank FAKE?!!!!!
NO WAY, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S FAKE OMGGGG
Like no shit sherlock...
Trump says: its true.
I just gave this 100,000 thumbs ups.
At 5:39 I had a flashback of "The Fast Show" jazz club skits. Nice!
My kid watches your videos and now he likes to take things apart. I'm going to send you the replacement bill.
US sellers also misrepresent. Got a 20,000 mah solar power bank from a "deal of the day" vendor for about $15. The included manual listed it as 5,000 mah. My testing got 1450 mah so I complained and got a refund. They didn't offer return postage so it's in a sunny window for whatever future use I might make of it.
You do realize that we're all characters in a book and when you forget what you were going to say it's because the author is backspacing.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge sir
Hi Clive. I recently bought one of these, not the same but similar. After watching your video I weighed it and it comes in at 342g. I think you said yours weighed 200g. I am hopeful therefore that mine has greater capacity, though I have no way to test it.
I had to grab a bag of crisps, your videos are very entertaining
built my own 100,000mAh'ish power bank with a bunch of 18650s and a charging circuit from a iHome (non-solar 2 18650s) power bank. It keeps my raspberry pi 2 alive for 37 hours :) with wifi dongle load. I charge it with a 2amp charger and it charges in half the time that it runs, due to the Pi using only around 1amp.
I would love to see you dissect a novelty electronic firecracker. I think you would have some interesting finds.
I'm seeing ones on eBay that look almost exactly the same, except they're advertised at 900,000 mAh. That's some amazing energy density...
If I had one of these I would shine a torch into a mirror and back to the solar panel. Free unlimited energy for life!
Hi Clive. Thanks for all the videos.
I'm courious how well the solar panel would work, would it actually recharge the battery in real world use?
Thanks Wayne
finally I can now go off grid with a house powered entirely by power banks and 5 inch solar panels....
Hey I just realized that the enclosure is made from a modified Savant external hard drive enclosure. That was probably a cheaper alternative lol.
great tear down didn't expect that
Use the force, Clive.
"im gonna test this for ehhh-oh i just pulled the solder leads off anyways" ahaha
I was interested to know how much power could that small solar panel can provide in full sunlight?
I love your channel and have been watching for about 3 years now. Regards from Vancouver, Canada.
Makes you kind of wonder how many of these high mA battery packs actually meet their rated capacity. I have a 16,000 mA Anker battery pack that powered a HD camcorder for 4 3/4 hours and the pack still showed 3 of the 4 lights for the charge level so I guess that's pretty good.
A youtube channel called "Isaac it'll be fine" has a video of the aftermath from a lithium car starter pack fire. These things cannot be left unattended.
always stoked for a new vid Clive
Bro who have been fighting.. Your knuckles are busted up.
best unboxing site ever :)
Clive could you test the super popular Xiaomi powerbank 2? The 10amp one is the most popular I think.
I remember buying one of these that claimed a tenth of the one on video and didn’t charge at all from the photovoltaic panels, turns out that there were several problems, not only the ribbon that was supposed to connect to the battery from the panel was not connected, the panel itself was not pressed properly and wasn’t contacting properly the halves of it. Then there were the little LED that supposedly showed how much “light” was hitting the panel. Those were not connected either lol.
After opening it up and noticing the ribbon and the metering LEDs I gave it to a friend to test the capacity of the batteries themselves and both of us were surprised that it was also a pair that amounted to close to 5kmAh. When properly assembled we put it to charge, first trying the solar end (which was when we noticed that the panels were not pressed properly) then from an outlet. It got really hot from just using a 1A cheap charger brick from another battery, then when on discharge from just connecting to a handheld light (that the light circuit is dead, we basically just use it to charge the batteries for another device) it also got uncomfortably hot, no something to leave either recharging itself or charging up another device unattended.
I bought the same falsely advertised product, although I wasn't concerned about the stats on the unit. I simply wanted something to charge my phone and tablet while backpacking and camping. It works and charges on solar and cable. I haven't had any problems with it and have taken it camping twice. It was under $20 so I can't complain. The English instructions were very poorly translated which is why I'm watching videos on the product.
At least you got instructions, there was nothing but the device when I got mine.
I'd like to see the result from the solarpanel :)
I have a Huawei 13000mAh pack. I've not tested it but it did take thirteen hours to charge the first time.
Aaron Adams This makes sense with a 1A charger
That enclosure looks exactly the same (except the colour) as an external usb hard drive I have. Curious how long it would take to charge using the solar panel.
Clive, do you have a video showing how you calculate the actual mah of batteries?
Any thought on disabling the blue leds to give solar side some meaningful existence?
Wonderful life because of you!
It's a boost/buck reversible topology
Omg i have this powerbank exactly like in this video!
of all the power bank you've tested, which one do you think is the best
lol I was thinking it's the one with 10,000mAh and even those are faked but when I realized it was 100,000mAh I just face palmed
hmmm, did it go bang yet? i will be interested in seeing there take in my prospective.
what power bank do you recommend that is high capacity im looking to buy one to keep in my car so size doesnt really matter
A 100000 mah battery would be equivalent to a few hand grenades.
The 100,000 mAh is probably the life of the device before you have to put it in the garbage can.
Is there a power bank that you would recommend that has the proper workings inside? Idealy with the solar panel!
This seems useful actually, can you buy this on amazon or not.
how'd they fit 40 18650 batteries in that tiny case...WITH a solar panel?! AMAZING!
I have very little electronics experience, aside from me failing to solder a new jack on an older headphone that I had, and I know you pretty much just tear down stuff, but I think it would be a cool idea if you could maybe do a proper video on how to make your own 'power bank'
There was a busy stall knocking these out at RIAT over the weekend. I asked them if they had any snake oil too.
GIGANTIC SO EVEN CAN BEAT CAR BATTERIES 😂😂😂 Btw in Indonesia there so many 'Samsung' powerbanks, which is the fake one. Capacity reaches 168000mAh, at sunday bazaar.
Btw, can you do an episode about fake external hdd? two chances of them:
1. flash drive manipulated+lug nuts
2.old hdd (80gb)
When you talked about buying battery products from a reputable supplier, I couldn't help thinking "Samsung"