I personally believe GHOST was able to use a disorder to help describe another disorder. They used the Eating Disorder to also describe People Pleasing, "You are what you Eat" describing that they want to pick who they are. "I'll purge them up the thoughts of everyone i'll ever meet." Is the idea of not being who you were yesterday due to purposefully changing who you are. "Order anything you'd like, nothing's changing my mind" I assume this would be Flower talking to the person they desire to please. At the end of the song I would assume the person began to notice the switching in personalities Flower goes through daily, and realizes that the relationship is becoming slowly more and more toxic as Flower loses their sense of self in order to please the person, they throw the cake away at the end, I presume signifying the end of that relationship. Because the person didn't want to be the reason Flower kept hurting them self. And throughout the video cake is seen everywhere, going back to "You are what you eat" cake may have been what Flower assumed the Person wanted. The ending sounds Menacing due to the bitter sweetness of it all, on one hand, the other person who left Flower was leaving for both mental states of them self and Flower to get better, however, on the other hand, the cake is overflowing in the trashcan. Meaning that person wasn't the first, nor will they be the last, It's just an endless loop for Flower finding someone else to please. And like earlier said, They will probably Purge away the personality that person wanted. I haven't had an eating disorder personally, however the song still hits close to home with the Double edged sword of People Pleasing being on the other End. But Even with such a bittersweet ending, Know that there is a way to break the cycle. It is not an easy cycle to break, I can assure that. But Start with small steps, such as just, doing what you enjoy and finding friends with that. Soon you may find yourself in a group you are able to belong in without feeling the need to change yourself. Because you'll find that those who do care will be pleased with who you are no matter what.
I actually read other comments like this off stream and yeah the song seems to be double sided in terms of interpretation but it’s like a “two sides of the same coin” kinda deal. Aka no mater which way you take the song (literally or metaphorically) the fundamental lesson you can take away is more or less the same. Interesting stuff overall
Yeah, I always thought this was a song about not being true to yourself and, instead, constantly changing yourself just to satisfy others. And then the ensuing mental breakdown that's inevitable once you find out even though you're doing that, some people still won't like you. The whole "I'm doing everything I can to please you, why aren't you happy?" theme.
Thank you very much for saying that I appreciate it. It’s hard for me to eat a lot and I’m continuously getting told I’m really skinny and every time I look at myself in the mirror I almost always say something along the lines of: “I’m so skinny it’s concerning.”. But like I said, it feels hard for me to eat a lot but I’m slightly trying to get myself to eat to the point that sometimes I slightly over feed myself and it makes my stomach hurt. Also, I’m constantly getting headaches from school due to my class being one of the if not, the noisiest class in the school. I am so sorry for saying all of that if I must I will delete this.
Now that I’m working to be less of a people pleaser, my ED has calmed down a lot, and I’ve genuinely started to do a bit better now. And this song did help me know that I wasn’t alone, and that I may get better, and I’m glad I’m finally recovering now
Also, funny story about my experience with this song: I actually showed it to my therapist a while back and she liked it. I was telling her about how I'm a people-pleaser and I was like "hol up I got a song about this and showed it to her." We watched it and she liked it, and towards the end, I went to click off of the tab. She saw Flower reaching for the cake and stopped me, saying she wanted to see what happened to the cake. It was a while ago so I don't really remember her reaction, but I think she was happy that Flower threw out the cake bc she saw it as her (Flower) starting to realize her worth and recover. So yeah, this song is therapist approved.
@@shooshiMooshi hey! You should also react to "ghost rule", it's really good, i prefer the teto, Len or araki covers, Miku's voice is kinda low and pretty generic? Idk lmao Love your videos by the way! 💕
Maybe it's just that I've never had a eating disorder but honestly, I always felt that in this song, the eating disorders are more of a metaphor than anything else. The food and flavours are thoughts and personalities and eating is just taking these thoughts and personality traits and mimicking them in a attempt to make yourself more likable. In the middle of the song the main character realizes that they are too overwhelming so instead they try to be a blank slate in order to make people happy. But maybe I'm just missing something...
I read this already and yeah the song seems to be double sided but it’s the same coin. Aka no mater which way you take the song (literally or metaphorically) the fundamental lesson is the same
i get wut u mean, personally i think its a metaphor for both. like the ED is a metaphor for the ppl pleasing and the ppl pleasing is a metaphor for the ED. they're intrusively(i think thats the right word here lol) linked in a way that makes sense from eother side of the picture. its one of the reasons i luv it so much bc i can relate both ways(more so ppl pleasin than ED tho)
Yeah, it just referes to being a people pleaser and making them happy meanwhile destroying yourself because you give them all you and there's nothing energy left for your life
Yeah, I think the same. I think GHOST was trying to do it more metaphorically how is being a person who always tries to accommodate themselves for other people, dismissing their own feelings I don't think it actually talks about an ED tbh, but people who suffer it can relate also to this song
V4FLOWER is my fave vocaloid. Her voice is so emotional yet really robotic and I think every song (that I've heard of her) is so good and it fits for her :) also this song is kinda a bop tho
I have a Ed (the kind where you don't eat) and the only Person who cares is my dad. He is so kind about it. He never forcess me he just encourages me, like he always says "are you sure? " "it's your favorite" and when I say no he is just like "okay, but if your hungry Ive got (random food) for you😊". So recently I've tried a little more. I don't look really skinny so most people don't assume but yk, looks can be deceiving. The point is I LOVE my dad!
Maybe you should do something about chat spamming requests, maybe do a separate request box or sumn. There's times when you're saying really serious and insightful stuff, then I look at chat to see if they relate, only to see them spam song requests non-stop. Just a thought.
You’re 1000% correct. It’s annoying as fk. Gonna crack down on that whether that be with mods etc. I haven’t said this yet but yeah I kinda find it disrespectful to ME when I’m talking about serious shit and 80% of chat is just like “okay cool HERES THIS SONG”. Worst comes to worse I’ll just hide chat from the camera when I go full screen so y’all don’t have to see it when I edit it into a TH-cam video
@@shooshiMooshiAgreed. Do what you have to do, and don't hesitate to enforce boundaries. It'll improve the mood for you, and chat as well in the long run
When I was like 13, I went really deep into anorexia, really looking for all the praise I could get, good grades, great athlete, and …. well body. I mean I come from a Mexican family, a ton of my cousins (girls) would judge me every time I ate. But no one really acknowledged me until I got skinny. It went from praise to worry. I’ve/ I do struggle a lot with body image, it’s so horrible how it change how you view yourself. But honestly, I’ve gone through 3 years of recovery, and have learned a lot about myself, and I learned that my ed was NOT my friend. If you are reading this, how much you eat and what your body looks like does not define your worth! We ALL have different and beautiful bodies! Much love
Hey shooshi/fans, I just wanted to mention something I noticed . I don’t mean any harm or anything though, I’m just concerned. I believe other peoples triggers are their responsibility to take care of and notify others about. So I am here to bring up that I notice chat asks a lot about how tall shooshi is, how much he weighs, etc. I think it would be good for the community if we could hold back on that type of conversation. He answers honestly about how much he weighs and how much he wants to loose/gain and it spirals into everyone talking about how much they weigh, bmi etc. And again I think it is each person’s responsibility to take care of themselves if viewing triggering content (when able to do so), but I also think that type of discussion doesn’t have a place in this positive and honest community. Just remember the influence of social media yk? Sure we are all just talking chill abt wtv but sometimes it’s easy to forget this is still social media, he is a content creator and those discussions can be had between you and someone a bit closer or more informed. I’m really not trynna start shit or blame anyone I just wanna keep the space safe and say what’s on my mind 🖤 hope everyone understands. End of tedtalk 💀
You are responsible for what you say and if someone tells you that something you're talking about is triggering to them, that is them trying their best to manage their triggers and if you keep talking about that subject with them then you are responsible for actively triggering them. Being expected to be kind enough to think twice about what you say is not other people putting their triggers on you, it's just basic human decency. People telling you that something you showed them or something you told them was triggering is not them putting the responsibility of their triggers on you, it's them asking you to think twice in the future to avoid causing them deep discomfort because who the fluff would want to cause someone else discomfort?? I've asked for trigger warnings on posts related to weight and stuff in the past because that subject can make me spiral out of control mentally and the amount of times I've been met with gross comments saying that no one is responsible for my triggers is genuinely insane. Idk how I'm supposed to manage to avoid topics that trigger me if people can't be kind enough to put trigger warnings on it. We do have trigger warnings in modern media and it's not that difficult to write "tw: selfharm" - among other things if you're asked for it. Stop acting as if people asking you to put a trigger warning is harmful to those who don't deal with triggers 💀
@@SwedishBs I agree, I’ll reword my message thanks for pointing that out. However please refrain from claiming that I am acting a certain way when I am not, I never said trigger warnings are bad of inconvenience others, however I understand how this can be interpreted. All I meant was that if you are triggered remember to get yourself out of that situation if possible because others are not always considerate. I don’t remember why I worded it the other way 🥲 I made this comment to remind others not to take part in a harmful conversation that does not need to happen.
I can relate this a little. When I was younger, I was a people-pleaser, I wanted to make people happy and accept me, but in the end I wasn't, I learned this after a while, like...when I was 13 y.o or something like that. You don't need to be accepted by other, accepted yourself and you will stay better, love yourself just how you are!
the song I relate the most because of my disordered eating and binge/starving periods, I really hope you are doing better now and well, this song really has a strong message, glad you appreciated it
I've never comment on your videos before, but the subject touches me so much. I myself been having trouble with my people pleasing behaviour and also overeating a lot because of all the stress I got for being "not enough" for people with their unbelievably high expectation. This song helps me realise that what I'm doing is unhealthy and helped me a lot. Hell, after I listened to this and think for a day or two, I've decided to ditch the friend who was horrible and expected me to be who they want me to be. It's so good to see someone I love to watch finally reacting to this song. Thank you for the messages n stuff also ❤
This is one of my favorite songs, I am also a people pleaser. When I am with others a natural response for me is "whatever you want!" Or "you can pick!" "I don't mind!" When I'm with others I actively think about what they want, what they like, what they don't like. I won't eat anything sometimes. And then when a friend left me without warning (I was ghosted despite having a nice friendship with them) I suddenly didn't know what to do with that side of me I made for them- like the lyric "what else do you need?" Werent you happy with me? I don't know what to do. I don't know what I like...
I was the same. Infact, before that, i was the exact opposite. Im autistic, and when i was young, very young, like just starting kindergarden, the world convinced me that i was a horrible person. It made me hate myself and think i was irredeemable. Yet, im a very kind and empathetic individual, and i cared more for others than myself, and the hurt eventually become too much. I couldnt deal with all my feelings, so i just.... didnt. I gave up. I stopped trying. I closed myself off. Wore a mask of "i donf care". If i was the bad guy, then id act like one. I started lashing out, purposefully being annoying and making others upset. Their anger was hilarious to me, and i kept chasing that sense of power and control bullying others gave me. Eventually, at the start of highschool, i started to break that persona down. Because it wasnt making me happy. Like i said, im kind, and empathetic. I was building up more and more guilt over the years, hating myself more and more, and eventually i finally listened to myself and worked to stop that. But..... Then i went in the opposite direction. From one extreme to the other. I became the biggest people pleaser around. I molded myself into whatever was needed of me. I was invincible and had a will of steel, i could do anything and everything. That went on for a while, and it was the exact same thing, i was chasing a high, a sense of power and control. I just switched targets, nothing changed. I just went from chasing hurting people to chasing helping people. And when i eventually took the hint that i wasnt happy with this either, i was at a loss. I didnt know who i was. I never got to know myself. I couldnt figure out who i was "supposed" to be, because it seemed like every option was bad. I wasted my entire childhood. I never let myself be who i was. It wasnt until now, that im almost a legal adult, that ive finally started discovering who i really am. Because you cant inherently know yourself. You get to know yourself like you get to know any other person. You talk to yourself, listen to yourself spend time with yourself and your thoughts. Something i never did as a child. Its gonna be okay, you can find yourself. Just listen to yourself and what you want. Start questioning everything. You may be unsure right now, but youll find the truth eventually. Ive finally found myself, after all these years. Ive finally become who i want to be. Im finally me. And you can do it too. Just keep attacking that senss of perfectionism, and find people that will love you no matter what. That last part is especially importanf, the main catalyst in finding myself was actually being with my girlfriend, ferris. Her still loving me all the same despite my room being a mess and me feeling gross and sweaty finally made it dawn on me that i didnf have to be perfect.
Thank you man. I don’t have an eating disorder I believe, but man am I a people pleaser. I’ve felt so alone, but this video and your words helped me. Thank you.
I can sorta relate since I used to starve myself. It was so bad to the point I was hospitalized, but I've gotten a bit better, I can eat at least 2 meals per day, or I get sick. This is a really good song and I'm glad you reacted to it!
As someone that's pretty much a people pleaser, just wants to be treated nicely and be likeable I actually kinda relate to this song honestly. I make different personalities for each person I meet and try to be as likeable as possible for each one of them. When someone asks me to do something, I can never say no, instead I do everything they want me to do to make them happy and for them to like me.
Eyyy, finally listening to some GHOST! GHOST is hands down my favorite 'makes original songs' Vocaloid Producer, I can't recommend their work enough and I'm glad you started with my favorite song of theirs! Not only does it slap, like everything else they make, but as someone with Atlas Personality (aka put everyone else before yourself at every possible turn) I definitely relate a lot to twisting myself into whatever shape others need to make them happy or like me more, doesn't help I had really toxic 'friends' that enabled and abused that for their own gain... I have much _much_ better friends now, and am actively working on trying to be myself unapologetic and not distort who I am to please others, and this song definitely helped. Anywho I hope you keep up with the GHOST songs, their music is fantastic and bring light to disorders and thins that aren't often talked about that need to be, all with fantastic music and lyrics.
I LOVE GHOSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This song is my favorite since I relate to the people pleaser part of the song.
I fell in love with GHOST's music when I accidentally stumbled upon the song "honey I'm home" they are, to his day, my favorite vocaloid artist next to ferry
I've listened to this song in the past, I think maybe about 2 years ago? But it's crazy listening to it now and reading thr lyrics and realizing how relatable it is Honestly, I've been falling down this hole of depression for about a month now And I realized I was developing an eating disorder, but I didn't do anything about it Not eating, or barely eating *anything* is not because I want to be thinner, since I've always been thin (even though now I'm unhealthily thin) I did, and still do it as a form of self harm And this song represented it so well We see this character barely eat anything, then binge eat, and then feel horrible about it That's basically the cycle I'm in now I drink coffee in the mornings since it takes hunger away, eat a small serving of lunch around 2-3 pm, eat something very small around 6, and repeat, until I start to feel so hungry and so weak that I basically eat for a whole day whenever I can And the other part of this song is being a people pleaser Unlike my ed, which started... Well I'd say sometime this year, or maybe towards the end of 2021, I've been a people pleaser my whole life Pleasing my parents, my teachers, classmates, friends... Acting like and saying what I know they want to hear, only for them to like me Not even like me, just not hate me, since being hated is kind of a big fear for me, especially being hated in school since that could turn into bullying whoops this turned into a vent haha- but this is also my takeaway from the song, and how I relate to it
As a GHOST fan who struggles with an undiagnosed eating disorder and is a severe people Pleaser this song used to make me cry and shit and it really hits home but I'm learning to become better with both things and I'm glad I am getting better
Honestly.... I'm starting to respect you more for opening up & advising us to not get through what you've been through 😭💟 . I'm seeing something great in you! . Keep up ✨💖
I'm so sorry you had to go through that, Shoosh. You didn't deserve it. I'm thirteen with an eating disorder, I often starve myself entirely or eat next-to-nothing per day and its so annoying to me how ignorant chat was being when you were talking about your own experiences with bullying and eating disorders, cause who in their right mind would be dismissive to something as sensitive as this? I'm really sorry. I know this video came out a year ago, but relentlessly I feel upset on your behalf, nobody deserves to go through anything like an eating disorder or etc. I don't know when ill stop looking for praise and stop trying to be a people pleaser myself, but I'm happy that you and the other comments here who said they recovered/are recovering are doing better now!
I've listened to this song quite a bit since I found it a few years ago, when I was getting worse and worse with just binging and fasting. It's mostly gotten better, especially as I have friends who will spam me until I prove them I've eaten when I haven't at school for a few days in a row. I still have those weeks where I just can't bring myself to either start or stop eating, but I'm getting better, and that's the most important part
TW: Ed Hey, just wanted to say thank you for sharing your story at the beginning. Like you said, it’s unfortunately commonplace for people to have EDs with the Internet, beauty standards and bullying. I personally have not had an ED but my twin sister had anorexia and was undiagnosed for two years because she didn’t “look underweight”, she naturally has a bigger body type so not many people noticed she was losing weight until it was getting really bad. Luckily, she went into treatment and made an excellent recovery and is doing amazing now, and I’m really proud of her for it. The moral of my story is that while many people have EDs, not many get diagnosed until it’s too late. It’s especially stigmatized for men with EDs to seek treatment because many people see it as a problem only women face, which is why I’m saying thank you to you for being brave enough to share what you went through. I hope my sister’s story, and yours, show anyone with ED that there is hope for recovery and that you’re worth so much more than your appearance.
The cake being thrown away at the end in the people pleasing sense, talking about becoming the flavorless delicacy that can finally be good enough. Throwing away the cake was like being thrown away from the people you were people pleasing
I can relate to the feeling this song expresses but in a different way. I’ve ALWAYS been really skinny. My parents keep reminding me with very frustrating ‘’jokes’’ as well as some of my friends. I was even called a sack of bones once. I don’t have a big appetite but some days I’m forcing myself to eat and trying not to vomit on purpose even when I know I’m more than full. This song is so good and is about a topic that needs to be talked about. That’s why I love it so much.
Oh my god, I literally starting bursting out crying during the end. Although I wouldn't like to admit that, I really needed to hear that ( both the song and your reaction on it ) . Since I started watching your content, not only have I found some bomb-ass songs to listen to, but hearing your opinion on songs like these, makes me feel less alone. So, thanks, for making our days even the slightest bit better.
This song is literally my favorite one of GHOST atm and i was so happy when i saw this video. I am a 9th grade student and my best friend and desk mate is also having eating problems and i am helping her because she really wants to be in a normal weight. I think she is around 70-80 right now and she was getting bullied by the class at the start of the year thats why i stepped into her life and im helping her achieve her goal while she also helps me with my childhood trauma. I always remember her when i listen to this song so this is why i wanted to write this. Don't be ashamed of your weight, even at the end the important part is your health, if you want to become skinny your reason shouldn't be because of the other peoples toughts, it is because YOU want it. (İm sorry if i made mistakes up there, english is my second language)
Thanks so much for helping them! Please keep in mind you're not a therapist/expert and remember to also take care of yourself. Helping can be exhaustive sometimes.
@@buttercupkat I never tought somebody would tell me to take care of myself too, thank you for thinking about me 😄 I never had toughts about su1c1de so i didn't worry before but maybe you are right. Thank you again 👋🏻
@@pupppyyy No problem! Just because you're not doesn't mean you shouldn't worry about yourself. You're just as important as your friend, and I'm sure they want you to be as happy as possible as well. Sending positive vibes your way! 💖✨
As a chubby person who struggles with a binge eating disorder and body dysmorphia and has attempted to starve myself or even cut my fat off, this song painfully relates to me and it makes me cry sometimes, I honestly feel weak for having these problems-
Finally! You reacted to GHOST, their music is amazing! But I personally thought this song was more figurative? Like, "I overeat the implications of your thoughts", I thought that meant something else and not literally eating. I thought the cake represented peoples thoughts and becoming a people pleaser, I didn't think it was actually about a actual eating disorder but I do find the other theories interesting.
I am trying not to be a people pleaser anymore, I have been practicing saying no and I think I have been doing a pretty good job. This song is pretty relatable. I used to be a pretty bad people pleaser. I wanted to to say yes to people all the time cause I would feel bad if I said no. But I realized that people aren't gonna be mad if you say no and you don't need to feel bad. But it can be hard to say no when you want to make everyone around you happy. But it's good to learn how to say no.
I remember listening to this it was good but that was at 2020 so I cant remember much about it but what I do know a little about it is that its about a girl that cant stop eating or something thats all I know, bye Edit: K I'm back you guys so after checking out the video( the one we are reacting too right now) and rewatching it this is my interpretation of the video. the part were she said "I'll consume perfection" I think it means that every cake she consumes represents a persons identity or personality like she is copying them or something by consuming it and the part were she eats the whole cake is like for example the whole cake represents a group of people and each piece is one persons personality but since she eating the whole cake she is trying to consume all peoples personality and in the beginning of the video you can see there are so many desserts in the background as well which means that she consumes more than just a whole cake and the more she consumes the more she will start to lose her senses to point of her losing touch of who she should even be anymore and were she starts acting like random people out of nowhere. Thats my interpretation of the video its not much I will put updates of my analysis K bye Thank you for reacting to this.😊
This is my favourite vocaloid song I think, I’ve listened to it an obcene number of times. And yeah, it’s not really about the eating disorder - it’s using it as a metaphor for the mc’s unhealthy people pleasing habits, destroying the self in the process, willing to do anything to please.
okay to be honest, when you said the word 'gordo', you sounded REALLY spanish, i know it because im am spanish myself, so, just to make sure, are you spanish?
Ok so in elementary school, i'd watch pbs kids before school. It was alright until they put on those stupid 'Fit Kids' segments when i was like in 4th or 5th grade. Basically drilled in my brain; Fat = bad, and Don't eat too much. So i started skipping dinner and locking myself in my room. I still do it to this day :)
Aw thank you sm for reacting to this song Shooshi 💓!! Also the pinned comment is right. While I was watching the chat seemed so fkn annoying and i was just staring at all the reaction requests like "😐". I really really loved this song/video tho 🥰
I developed an eating disorder in the summer of 2020. I had this giant box of cheese its, and if I ever got hunger pangs I'd just eat one or two. I dropped about 20 pounds in 2 months. I managed to break the habit on my own, but I still get those urges to just starve myself. I think the root cause of my disorder was my mother. Aside from already being a terribly abusive person, she used to make me show her my stomach every few days from the age of like 7. Every time she'd tell me over and over again that I needed to lose weight, that I was so fat. It really screwed up my perception of myself and it manifested as body dismorphia. It's been a long ride but I'm really hoping to get better. :]
i personally really relate to this song and i was so happy when i saw that you covered it, if im being honest im still struggling with my ED , but not as much as i once was when i was in middle school and high school , actually i've managed to gain weight, and keep it (if anything im a bit overweight now) but i still struggle with so desperately wanting the approval of people and being exactly what people want , its a horrible vicious , harmful cycle thats so incredibly hard to break free of. for me, while i'm doing a lot better these days, the stressors that had once lead me down that harmful path have come back , and now im struggling again , but i know with just a bit of time that i'll be okay, i'll make it through, and i'll be stronger and maybe even wiser for it. but right now, things are so difficult. i just want to feel normal. i hope that you're doing a lot better these days, and i'm sure that friends you have would be so sad if they found out you were hurting in such a way , remember there's always someone who's willing to listen to you, willing to help you, and even if its scary, please reach out if you feel you need help, not just you Shooshi, but to anyone who reads this HERE ARE SOME SUICIDE HOTLINES, you arent alone: Argentina: +5402234930430 Australia: 131114 Austria: 017133374 Belgium: 106 Bosnia & Herzegovina: 080 05 03 05 Botswana: 3911270 Brazil: 212339191 Bulgaria: 0035 9249 17 223 Canada: 5147234000 (Montreal); 18662773553 (outside Montreal) Croatia: 014833888 Denmark: +4570201201 Egypt: 7621602 Finland: 010 195 202 France: 0145394000 Germany: 08001810771 Holland: 09000767 Hong Kong: +852 2382 0000 Hungary: 116123 Iceland: 1717 India: 8888817666 Ireland: +4408457909090 Italy: 800860022 Japan: +810352869090 Mexico: 5255102550 New Zealand: 045861048 Netherlands: 09000113 Norway: +4781533300 Philippines: 028969191 Poland: 5270000 Russia: 0078202577577 Spain: 914590050 South Africa: 0514445691 Sweden: 46317112400 Switzerland: 143 United Kingdom: Various recources www.nhs.uk/mental-health/feelings-symptoms-behaviours/behaviours/help-for-suicidal-thoughts/ USA: 18002738255
I love this song. I love how it gives attention to eating disorders which rarely get represented correctly so I’m glad this exist to help people with these disorders. Also I know this Kikuo song that is amazing but doesn’t get a lot of attention it’s called XxX cat listen to it and I posted a theory that I think is really close
For me, mine starts off with me not eating anything, and then gets unbearable to not eat so I just end up binge eating, or I just forget to eat in general
to be honest i think the eating disorder is more of a metaphor and being a perfectionist that wants to please everyone to become this perfect sweet desirable person that pleases everyone and makes everyone happy even at the cost of their very self and essence, their own will and identity
the best part about this song is that V4 flower doesnt have an english voice box, the favt that ghost and pals can make her say such complicated words and for it to all make sense is crazy.
Thus song is one of my favorites, I really love Ghost's music, I relate to a lot of them. I developed an eating disorder at the age of ten after my mom mentioning my weight throughout my childhood, I only started to recover when the pandemic started because at the time I was spending more time with friends than family. I just wish people would be more considerate with their words... I was constantly told that words shouldn't effect me from a really young age and when I came out to my parents with my ed, they brushed it off because I was still visibly chubby (I couldn't shake off the fat in my stomach and thigh areas, everything else was skin and bones). My parents don't understand how eds work, they say that the people should just exercise and everything would be fine. They still mention my weight from time to time... I've neatly relapsed so many times due to it... I can't get rid of the mindset because of them.
I literally started crying while listening to Appetite of a People-Pleaser because of how much I related to it, my people pleasing ended up to me developing Anorexia and Bulimia, I've been eating less and less everyday. None of my family has even noticed yet, I really can only talk to people online about it, honestly so glad I found out about the VOCALOID community, the songs are my way to cope lmao
i love that this song is so relatable because you can interpret flower in this song as an overeater or an undereater, whatever lines up with your experience. "I still demand, give me more" "I'll overeat the implications to your thoughts, just to make you happy" "And yet I know my insides are empty" "I'm starving"
It's the opposite for me. I always used to be really thin and there was nothing wrong with it.. some people are chubby and some are.. thin, alright? But my entire family always worried about how I ate such little amounts of food and forced me to overeat to the point I get a little s1ck I just get full easily, okay? But for them.. it wasn't okay They kept doing this until one day... I was diagnosed with pancreatitis. My pancreas nearly failed. Which resulted in intense v0m1t1ng. Which resulted in SEVERE emetophobia. I need a song about that phobia now pls-
As a youngn' I find CDS very interesting because it's a playlist that you can never change again. It's a permanent capsule of your music taste and if a song for example falls out of favor you either have to skip it every time or tuck that CD away never to be seen again. It also just kind of hits different in the car lol😂😅
Oooh a GHOST song!! honestly their songs are really good and honestly too relatable for me. Especially this one. I've had both ED and been a people pleaser for a couple years. Throughout school I was a people pleaser, mainly to my parents but also to any friends I made. To me then, relationships were like a glass vase so delicate that you slip up once and then, crash. It also really didn't help that I was so insecure and at times, didn't even feel like I was a person. The way they describe it in the song as saying, being the double-edged sword that it is, they consume personality traits is quite real and is terrifying to realize once you've went so far with it. Though now I'm better, still taking it one step at a time but making myself feel more confident nonetheless.
I don't know whether it's type of ed, but Since I was little, I had troubles with my appetite. It's not that I was overeating, no, the opposite thing. I had (and still have) periods when I simply couldn't feel any starvation. And it sucks, 'cuz I also had no sense of fullness. In conclusion, I have to have an eating schedule in order to normally function (stomachache+blacking out
See i dont know if this is like a bad thing but i do not eat anything at all during the day and then eat all of my dinner + a million snacks during the middle of the night. And even if my mom doesnt make dinner i just starve. So i understand to a DEGREE im not saying i completely understand, but im able to empathize with other struggles and im sorry some of you guys are going through this.
YES FINALLY GHOST! Ghost is my fav song creator, I'm so happy you reacted to them! Their songs are bangers with meanings that really hit hard. If you want 'The Distortionist' and 'Honey I'm Home' are also incredible. They also made a series callled Communications in which are four songs: rotary dial, black&white, housewife radio and broadcast illusion in that order. The series was canceled because of Ghost personal reasons but those song are relly good. I would be really happy to see you react to them :D Also congrats on 66,6 thousands subscribers!
You mentioned that you were starving yourself back than and when you started talking about how little you ate, it made me a bit scared because I eat about just as much every day as you said. What's worse: I do it unintentionally. Sometimes, I eat a LOT, my appetite is endless, but I don't feel like I have to eat at all. Anyway, I will never gain any weight by eating. It's like my body burns more calories the it can possibly contain. Now, I am satisfied with myself and realized that my apparance really suits my personality.
I remember my siblings would always call me "Toothpick" or other things like that because of skinny I was, so I would always eat a lot but I still have a hard time gaining weight, I still don't even weigh a 100 pounds yet. But I'm feeling better about my body now ❤
ik im a year late but, i relate to this song so much, im trying to get out of my binge eating habit but sometimes its way to hard. im someone who eats their feelings so that leads to me eating a lot. its really hard for me bc ive gained weight so fast and its caused me to hate myself afterwards and sometimes i try converting to starving bc of the way my body looks. its really hard for me to have a binge eating disorder but im slowly, but surely getting out of it by portioning my food sizes.
My family always says “eating again?!” In a joking manner but really I’m very self conscious and nervous about what I eat- I feel guilty and nervous when people give me food or just eat in front of people. I feel gross when I eat, I’ve never threw up due to the guilty feeling though- I hate eating in front of people or making food I like in front of people in fear they will judge me. Because of that I always kept what I eat secret or just not eat- but oh well, life is life :> :3
It kind of bothers me how a lot of people in the comments of the original and this keep saying "Ghost used eating disorders as a metaphor." I'm not necessarily sure they did? Eating disorders pretty much always have an emotional aspect to them. While it isn't always the cause, EDs CAN be caused by someone feeling ugly and unwanted by others, so they do things like starving themself or purging to get validation from people. Binging can happen to fill an emotional emptiness that someone feels, or as a stress response. It makes a lot of sense to relate to feelings of inadequacy, loneliness, and trying to people everyone, even if you don't have an ED. Those aren't things that only people with EDs feel. But it really bothers me how people say "they used an ED as a metaphor for emotions" as if the eating disorder and the emotions are completely unrelated. You can relate to the parts of the song you see yourself in, but erasing the link between self-hating feelings and eating disorders is a really frustrating thing to see people doing.
when i was in 6th grade i started to not eat as much and i found out i was suffering for many mental disorders. i have always hated myself and my life for just being me and before 6th grade i was bullied (my parents don't believe this either) but when my old friend told everyone in our classes the pretended to be nice and i could tell they were lying. i started to develop an eating disorder. and i was told it wasn't real. it was my imagination and i still dont eat that much because i think im am fat and ugly. Im 19 now and still suffering, hanging on by a string, but im still looking for the light that will help me, the happiness i once had. and to anyone who is going trough the same thing or worse, there will be a light, hope that we will succeed in life. i promise keep going Alice Nightingale
i still have my eating disorder, though ppl would say my health and body weight is "normal and healthy" the issue is that my eating disorder ended up forming through child abuse and starvation from my mother then from my dad's side and my step mother. I can say that's when the body shaming started yet all of them were over weight an had the nerve to judge me an my body or looks just because i looked better then them at their age. And now i watch what i eat, worse part is my eating disorder is starting to worsen again an i can only eat 2 meals but most days 1 meal a day or half a meal. I am trying to get better but with "family" removed and cut out my life an having a lack of friendships, i only got me , myself an i through this rough journey. Wish me luck shooshiMooshi. Oh and thank you for all of your content i love yr channel and yr hardwork.
SHOOSHI!! i'm glad you reacted to GHOST!I always loved their music,I absolutely loved this song also it's one of my favorite GHOST songs-one of fav vocaloid songs in general.Also GHOST is so talented omg like they even made the pv,GHOST's artstyle is so amazing Also the character's name is Cakey, *CAKEY SUPREMACY* ,they're so cute omg
Wait, I didn't know this was about an eating disorder. I thought it was about a person who always wanted to please others so they changed themselves to fit into a mold. I never thought about the eating disord perspective. I also thought the mentions of being hungry and eating meant they craved attention and compassion from others.
I still have a eating disorder like whenever I eat food I get sick then i get more sick then i eat more and it sucks ( bc I'm skinny af) and I dont eat breakfast and very rarely lunch that's why I can understand what you go threw and same with the song
Ghost songs in general can be super dark. Colors look good and cheerful but the songs themselves are dark unless it's honey I'm home no colors there. People pleaser is my favorite ghost song and although I don't relate I can understand on a human being level.
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I personally believe GHOST was able to use a disorder to help describe another disorder. They used the Eating Disorder to also describe People Pleasing, "You are what you Eat" describing that they want to pick who they are. "I'll purge them up the thoughts of everyone i'll ever meet." Is the idea of not being who you were yesterday due to purposefully changing who you are. "Order anything you'd like, nothing's changing my mind" I assume this would be Flower talking to the person they desire to please. At the end of the song I would assume the person began to notice the switching in personalities Flower goes through daily, and realizes that the relationship is becoming slowly more and more toxic as Flower loses their sense of self in order to please the person, they throw the cake away at the end, I presume signifying the end of that relationship. Because the person didn't want to be the reason Flower kept hurting them self. And throughout the video cake is seen everywhere, going back to "You are what you eat" cake may have been what Flower assumed the Person wanted. The ending sounds Menacing due to the bitter sweetness of it all, on one hand, the other person who left Flower was leaving for both mental states of them self and Flower to get better, however, on the other hand, the cake is overflowing in the trashcan. Meaning that person wasn't the first, nor will they be the last, It's just an endless loop for Flower finding someone else to please. And like earlier said, They will probably Purge away the personality that person wanted. I haven't had an eating disorder personally, however the song still hits close to home with the Double edged sword of People Pleasing being on the other End. But Even with such a bittersweet ending, Know that there is a way to break the cycle. It is not an easy cycle to break, I can assure that. But Start with small steps, such as just, doing what you enjoy and finding friends with that. Soon you may find yourself in a group you are able to belong in without feeling the need to change yourself. Because you'll find that those who do care will be pleased with who you are no matter what.
I actually read other comments like this off stream and yeah the song seems to be double sided in terms of interpretation but it’s like a “two sides of the same coin” kinda deal. Aka no mater which way you take the song (literally or metaphorically) the fundamental lesson you can take away is more or less the same. Interesting stuff overall
I also interpret it like this as well
Yeah, I always thought this was a song about not being true to yourself and, instead, constantly changing yourself just to satisfy others. And then the ensuing mental breakdown that's inevitable once you find out even though you're doing that, some people still won't like you. The whole "I'm doing everything I can to please you, why aren't you happy?" theme.
*Sheds single tear*
That was beautiful.
Thank you very much for saying that I appreciate it. It’s hard for me to eat a lot and I’m continuously getting told I’m really skinny and every time I look at myself in the mirror I almost always say something along the lines of: “I’m so skinny it’s concerning.”.
But like I said, it feels hard for me to eat a lot but I’m slightly trying to get myself to eat to the point that sometimes I slightly over feed myself and it makes my stomach hurt. Also, I’m constantly getting headaches from school due to my class being one of the if not, the noisiest class in the school. I am so sorry for saying all of that if I must I will delete this.
Now that I’m working to be less of a people pleaser, my ED has calmed down a lot, and I’ve genuinely started to do a bit better now. And this song did help me know that I wasn’t alone, and that I may get better, and I’m glad I’m finally recovering now
So happy to hear that :))
@@shooshiMooshi thank you :)
That's a goal right there to be proud of Also great job at overcoming it :DD
YES!!! He finally reacted to a GHOST song! Full disclosure, almost if not all of their songs are just as much of a banger as this one
i believe it lol
@@shooshiMooshi As you should!
Also, funny story about my experience with this song: I actually showed it to my therapist a while back and she liked it. I was telling her about how I'm a people-pleaser and I was like "hol up I got a song about this and showed it to her." We watched it and she liked it, and towards the end, I went to click off of the tab. She saw Flower reaching for the cake and stopped me, saying she wanted to see what happened to the cake. It was a while ago so I don't really remember her reaction, but I think she was happy that Flower threw out the cake bc she saw it as her (Flower) starting to realize her worth and recover. So yeah, this song is therapist approved.
Finally 😎
@@shooshiMooshi hey! You should also react to "ghost rule", it's really good, i prefer the teto, Len or araki covers, Miku's voice is kinda low and pretty generic? Idk lmao
Love your videos by the way! 💕
Maybe it's just that I've never had a eating disorder but honestly, I always felt that in this song, the eating disorders are more of a metaphor than anything else.
The food and flavours are thoughts and personalities and eating is just taking these thoughts and personality traits and mimicking them in a attempt to make yourself more likable.
In the middle of the song the main character realizes that they are too overwhelming so instead they try to be a blank slate in order to make people happy.
But maybe I'm just missing something...
I read this already and yeah the song seems to be double sided but it’s the same coin. Aka no mater which way you take the song (literally or metaphorically) the fundamental lesson is the same
i get wut u mean, personally i think its a metaphor for both. like the ED is a metaphor for the ppl pleasing and the ppl pleasing is a metaphor for the ED. they're intrusively(i think thats the right word here lol) linked in a way that makes sense from eother side of the picture. its one of the reasons i luv it so much bc i can relate both ways(more so ppl pleasin than ED tho)
Yeah, it just referes to being a people pleaser and making them happy meanwhile destroying yourself because you give them all you and there's nothing energy left for your life
Yeah, I think the same. I think GHOST was trying to do it more metaphorically how is being a person who always tries to accommodate themselves for other people, dismissing their own feelings
I don't think it actually talks about an ED tbh, but people who suffer it can relate also to this song
V4FLOWER is my fave vocaloid. Her voice is so emotional yet really robotic and I think every song (that I've heard of her) is so good and it fits for her :) also this song is kinda a bop tho
I learned that V4Flowers new name is CiFlower and she has a new design that doesn't look like her!
I have a Ed (the kind where you don't eat) and the only Person who cares is my dad. He is so kind about it. He never forcess me he just encourages me, like he always says "are you sure? " "it's your favorite" and when I say no he is just like "okay, but if your hungry Ive got (random food) for you😊". So recently I've tried a little more. I don't look really skinny so most people don't assume but yk, looks can be deceiving. The point is I LOVE my dad!
you have a really great father!
Aw, I love your dad. I hope you’re doing just a little bit better now
ME TOO MY DAD IS LIKE THAT TOO
U got a good dad ngl if I had that my dad would force me to eat I think
Maybe you should do something about chat spamming requests, maybe do a separate request box or sumn. There's times when you're saying really serious and insightful stuff, then I look at chat to see if they relate, only to see them spam song requests non-stop. Just a thought.
You’re 1000% correct. It’s annoying as fk. Gonna crack down on that whether that be with mods etc. I haven’t said this yet but yeah I kinda find it disrespectful to ME when I’m talking about serious shit and 80% of chat is just like “okay cool HERES THIS SONG”. Worst comes to worse I’ll just hide chat from the camera when I go full screen so y’all don’t have to see it when I edit it into a TH-cam video
@@shooshiMooshiAgreed. Do what you have to do, and don't hesitate to enforce boundaries. It'll improve the mood for you, and chat as well in the long run
Thx man
@@shooshiMooshi I know it's been a while since I've caught a stream, but if you ever need a mod, I'm here.
seriously, like shooshi mooshi would be talking about serious topics and the chat is like “PLEASE REACT TO ____” or whatever 😬
When I was like 13, I went really deep into anorexia, really looking for all the praise I could get, good grades, great athlete, and …. well body. I mean I come from a Mexican family, a ton of my cousins (girls) would judge me every time I ate. But no one really acknowledged me until I got skinny. It went from praise to worry. I’ve/ I do struggle a lot with body image, it’s so horrible how it change how you view yourself. But honestly, I’ve gone through 3 years of recovery, and have learned a lot about myself, and I learned that my ed was NOT my friend. If you are reading this, how much you eat and what your body looks like does not define your worth! We ALL have different and beautiful bodies! Much love
So proud of you for your recovery! I’m glad you’re doing better now!
I’m glad I saw this comment because I’m going through something similar and I’m glad I’m not/wasn’t alone. You made my day, thank you.
Hey shooshi/fans, I just wanted to mention something I noticed . I don’t mean any harm or anything though, I’m just concerned.
I believe other peoples triggers are their responsibility to take care of and notify others about. So I am here to bring up that I notice chat asks a lot about how tall shooshi is, how much he weighs, etc. I think it would be good for the community if we could hold back on that type of conversation. He answers honestly about how much he weighs and how much he wants to loose/gain and it spirals into everyone talking about how much they weigh, bmi etc. And again I think it is each person’s responsibility to take care of themselves if viewing triggering content (when able to do so), but I also think that type of discussion doesn’t have a place in this positive and honest community.
Just remember the influence of social media yk? Sure we are all just talking chill abt wtv but sometimes it’s easy to forget this is still social media, he is a content creator and those discussions can be had between you and someone a bit closer or more informed.
I’m really not trynna start shit or blame anyone I just wanna keep the space safe and say what’s on my mind 🖤 hope everyone understands.
End of tedtalk 💀
Yes ur speaking fax this type of conversation can really kickstart something toxic and we don’t want that
You are responsible for what you say and if someone tells you that something you're talking about is triggering to them, that is them trying their best to manage their triggers and if you keep talking about that subject with them then you are responsible for actively triggering them.
Being expected to be kind enough to think twice about what you say is not other people putting their triggers on you, it's just basic human decency. People telling you that something you showed them or something you told them was triggering is not them putting the responsibility of their triggers on you, it's them asking you to think twice in the future to avoid causing them deep discomfort because who the fluff would want to cause someone else discomfort??
I've asked for trigger warnings on posts related to weight and stuff in the past because that subject can make me spiral out of control mentally and the amount of times I've been met with gross comments saying that no one is responsible for my triggers is genuinely insane. Idk how I'm supposed to manage to avoid topics that trigger me if people can't be kind enough to put trigger warnings on it.
We do have trigger warnings in modern media and it's not that difficult to write "tw: selfharm" - among other things if you're asked for it.
Stop acting as if people asking you to put a trigger warning is harmful to those who don't deal with triggers 💀
@@SwedishBs I agree, I’ll reword my message thanks for pointing that out. However please refrain from claiming that I am acting a certain way when I am not, I never said trigger warnings are bad of inconvenience others, however I understand how this can be interpreted.
All I meant was that if you are triggered remember to get yourself out of that situation if possible because others are not always considerate. I don’t remember why I worded it the other way 🥲 I made this comment to remind others not to take part in a harmful conversation that does not need to happen.
I can relate this a little.
When I was younger, I was a people-pleaser, I wanted to make people happy and accept me, but in the end I wasn't, I learned this after a while, like...when I was 13 y.o or something like that.
You don't need to be accepted by other, accepted yourself and you will stay better, love yourself just how you are!
throwback to when the damn stream was ended for copyright while we were all vibing 😭😭
keep up the amazing work! SO PROUD OF HOW FAR YOUVE COME
the song I relate the most because of my disordered eating and binge/starving periods, I really hope you are doing better now and well, this song really has a strong message, glad you appreciated it
im going through that right now lol hope ur ok!
The fact I’m nomming on some food right now..let’s hope i can keep eating it before I feel guilty 🏃🏻♀️
don't feel guilty!
I've never comment on your videos before, but the subject touches me so much. I myself been having trouble with my people pleasing behaviour and also overeating a lot because of all the stress I got for being "not enough" for people with their unbelievably high expectation. This song helps me realise that what I'm doing is unhealthy and helped me a lot. Hell, after I listened to this and think for a day or two, I've decided to ditch the friend who was horrible and expected me to be who they want me to be. It's so good to see someone I love to watch finally reacting to this song. Thank you for the messages n stuff also ❤
This is one of my favorite songs, I am also a people pleaser. When I am with others a natural response for me is "whatever you want!" Or "you can pick!" "I don't mind!"
When I'm with others I actively think about what they want, what they like, what they don't like. I won't eat anything sometimes.
And then when a friend left me without warning (I was ghosted despite having a nice friendship with them) I suddenly didn't know what to do with that side of me I made for them- like the lyric "what else do you need?" Werent you happy with me? I don't know what to do. I don't know what I like...
I was the same.
Infact, before that, i was the exact opposite.
Im autistic, and when i was young, very young, like just starting kindergarden, the world convinced me that i was a horrible person. It made me hate myself and think i was irredeemable.
Yet, im a very kind and empathetic individual, and i cared more for others than myself, and the hurt eventually become too much. I couldnt deal with all my feelings, so i just.... didnt. I gave up. I stopped trying. I closed myself off. Wore a mask of "i donf care". If i was the bad guy, then id act like one. I started lashing out, purposefully being annoying and making others upset. Their anger was hilarious to me, and i kept chasing that sense of power and control bullying others gave me. Eventually, at the start of highschool, i started to break that persona down. Because it wasnt making me happy. Like i said, im kind, and empathetic. I was building up more and more guilt over the years, hating myself more and more, and eventually i finally listened to myself and worked to stop that.
But.....
Then i went in the opposite direction.
From one extreme to the other.
I became the biggest people pleaser around. I molded myself into whatever was needed of me. I was invincible and had a will of steel, i could do anything and everything.
That went on for a while, and it was the exact same thing, i was chasing a high, a sense of power and control. I just switched targets, nothing changed. I just went from chasing hurting people to chasing helping people.
And when i eventually took the hint that i wasnt happy with this either, i was at a loss.
I didnt know who i was.
I never got to know myself.
I couldnt figure out who i was "supposed" to be, because it seemed like every option was bad.
I wasted my entire childhood.
I never let myself be who i was.
It wasnt until now, that im almost a legal adult, that ive finally started discovering who i really am.
Because you cant inherently know yourself.
You get to know yourself like you get to know any other person. You talk to yourself, listen to yourself spend time with yourself and your thoughts. Something i never did as a child.
Its gonna be okay, you can find yourself. Just listen to yourself and what you want. Start questioning everything. You may be unsure right now, but youll find the truth eventually.
Ive finally found myself, after all these years. Ive finally become who i want to be. Im finally me. And you can do it too.
Just keep attacking that senss of perfectionism, and find people that will love you no matter what.
That last part is especially importanf, the main catalyst in finding myself was actually being with my girlfriend, ferris.
Her still loving me all the same despite my room being a mess and me feeling gross and sweaty finally made it dawn on me that i didnf have to be perfect.
Thank you man. I don’t have an eating disorder I believe, but man am I a people pleaser. I’ve felt so alone, but this video and your words helped me. Thank you.
when I first heard this song, it hit me like a semi-truck
I can sorta relate since I used to starve myself. It was so bad to the point I was hospitalized, but I've gotten a bit better, I can eat at least 2 meals per day, or I get sick. This is a really good song and I'm glad you reacted to it!
I know this comment was from a year ago, but I hope your getting better 😊😊😊❤❤❤
As someone that's pretty much a people pleaser, just wants to be treated nicely and be likeable I actually kinda relate to this song honestly.
I make different personalities for each person I meet and try to be as likeable as possible for each one of them.
When someone asks me to do something, I can never say no, instead I do everything they want me to do to make them happy and for them to like me.
Eyyy, finally listening to some GHOST! GHOST is hands down my favorite 'makes original songs' Vocaloid Producer, I can't recommend their work enough and I'm glad you started with my favorite song of theirs! Not only does it slap, like everything else they make, but as someone with Atlas Personality (aka put everyone else before yourself at every possible turn) I definitely relate a lot to twisting myself into whatever shape others need to make them happy or like me more, doesn't help I had really toxic 'friends' that enabled and abused that for their own gain... I have much _much_ better friends now, and am actively working on trying to be myself unapologetic and not distort who I am to please others, and this song definitely helped. Anywho I hope you keep up with the GHOST songs, their music is fantastic and bring light to disorders and thins that aren't often talked about that need to be, all with fantastic music and lyrics.
I LOVE GHOSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This song is my favorite since I relate to the people pleaser part of the song.
I fell in love with GHOST's music when I accidentally stumbled upon the song "honey I'm home" they are, to his day, my favorite vocaloid artist next to ferry
another ferry enjoyer!!
I've listened to this song in the past, I think maybe about 2 years ago? But it's crazy listening to it now and reading thr lyrics and realizing how relatable it is
Honestly, I've been falling down this hole of depression for about a month now
And I realized I was developing an eating disorder, but I didn't do anything about it
Not eating, or barely eating *anything* is not because I want to be thinner, since I've always been thin (even though now I'm unhealthily thin)
I did, and still do it as a form of self harm
And this song represented it so well
We see this character barely eat anything, then binge eat, and then feel horrible about it
That's basically the cycle I'm in now
I drink coffee in the mornings since it takes hunger away, eat a small serving of lunch around 2-3 pm, eat something very small around 6, and repeat, until I start to feel so hungry and so weak that I basically eat for a whole day whenever I can
And the other part of this song is being a people pleaser
Unlike my ed, which started... Well I'd say sometime this year, or maybe towards the end of 2021, I've been a people pleaser my whole life
Pleasing my parents, my teachers, classmates, friends... Acting like and saying what I know they want to hear, only for them to like me
Not even like me, just not hate me, since being hated is kind of a big fear for me, especially being hated in school since that could turn into bullying
whoops this turned into a vent haha- but this is also my takeaway from the song, and how I relate to it
shooshie talking about how he was bullied and starved himself:
that one person in the chat: I WANT HIM TO REACT-
As a GHOST fan who struggles with an undiagnosed eating disorder and is a severe people Pleaser this song used to make me cry and shit and it really hits home but I'm learning to become better with both things and I'm glad I am getting better
Honestly....
I'm starting to respect you more for opening up & advising us to not get through what you've been through 😭💟
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I'm seeing something great in you!
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Keep up ✨💖
I'm so happy he did this song!!! It was my favorite for so long that made my day!!!!
glad you're happy :D
@@shooshiMooshi HAHA PEOPLE PLEASER REFERENCE
*H A H A*
@@BelugaDelphinebro what
GHOST is one of my favorite vocaloid producers ever, they have so many good songs. This is is one of their best imo, thank you for reacting to it! 😊
I'm so sorry you had to go through that, Shoosh. You didn't deserve it. I'm thirteen with an eating disorder, I often starve myself entirely or eat next-to-nothing per day and its so annoying to me how ignorant chat was being when you were talking about your own experiences with bullying and eating disorders, cause who in their right mind would be dismissive to something as sensitive as this? I'm really sorry. I know this video came out a year ago, but relentlessly I feel upset on your behalf, nobody deserves to go through anything like an eating disorder or etc. I don't know when ill stop looking for praise and stop trying to be a people pleaser myself, but I'm happy that you and the other comments here who said they recovered/are recovering are doing better now!
I've listened to this song quite a bit since I found it a few years ago, when I was getting worse and worse with just binging and fasting. It's mostly gotten better, especially as I have friends who will spam me until I prove them I've eaten when I haven't at school for a few days in a row. I still have those weeks where I just can't bring myself to either start or stop eating, but I'm getting better, and that's the most important part
TW: Ed
Hey, just wanted to say thank you for sharing your story at the beginning. Like you said, it’s unfortunately commonplace for people to have EDs with the Internet, beauty standards and bullying. I personally have not had an ED but my twin sister had anorexia and was undiagnosed for two years because she didn’t “look underweight”, she naturally has a bigger body type so not many people noticed she was losing weight until it was getting really bad. Luckily, she went into treatment and made an excellent recovery and is doing amazing now, and I’m really proud of her for it.
The moral of my story is that while many people have EDs, not many get diagnosed until it’s too late. It’s especially stigmatized for men with EDs to seek treatment because many people see it as a problem only women face, which is why I’m saying thank you to you for being brave enough to share what you went through. I hope my sister’s story, and yours, show anyone with ED that there is hope for recovery and that you’re worth so much more than your appearance.
The cake being thrown away at the end in the people pleasing sense, talking about becoming the flavorless delicacy that can finally be good enough. Throwing away the cake was like being thrown away from the people you were people pleasing
Let’s go I’m excited for this one!
I can relate to the feeling this song expresses but in a different way. I’ve ALWAYS been really skinny. My parents keep reminding me with very frustrating ‘’jokes’’ as well as some of my friends. I was even called a sack of bones once. I don’t have a big appetite but some days I’m forcing myself to eat and trying not to vomit on purpose even when I know I’m more than full. This song is so good and is about a topic that needs to be talked about. That’s why I love it so much.
0:06 its that 1 scene from matilda! 😮
BAHHAHHAHH
Oh my god, I literally starting bursting out crying during the end. Although I wouldn't like to admit that, I really needed to hear that ( both the song and your reaction on it ) . Since I started watching your content, not only have I found some bomb-ass songs to listen to, but hearing your opinion on songs like these, makes me feel less alone. So, thanks, for making our days even the slightest bit better.
This song is literally my favorite one of GHOST atm and i was so happy when i saw this video. I am a 9th grade student and my best friend and desk mate is also having eating problems and i am helping her because she really wants to be in a normal weight. I think she is around 70-80 right now and she was getting bullied by the class at the start of the year thats why i stepped into her life and im helping her achieve her goal while she also helps me with my childhood trauma. I always remember her when i listen to this song so this is why i wanted to write this. Don't be ashamed of your weight, even at the end the important part is your health, if you want to become skinny your reason shouldn't be because of the other peoples toughts, it is because YOU want it. (İm sorry if i made mistakes up there, english is my second language)
Thanks so much for helping them! Please keep in mind you're not a therapist/expert and remember to also take care of yourself. Helping can be exhaustive sometimes.
@@buttercupkat I never tought somebody would tell me to take care of myself too, thank you for thinking about me 😄 I never had toughts about su1c1de so i didn't worry before but maybe you are right. Thank you again 👋🏻
@@pupppyyy No problem! Just because you're not doesn't mean you shouldn't worry about yourself. You're just as important as your friend, and I'm sure they want you to be as happy as possible as well. Sending positive vibes your way! 💖✨
As I always like to say about this song, "It's not a metaphor for an eating disorder, the eating disorder IS the metaphor!"
not gonna lie,i thought this song was about a person with bulimia nervosa (a ED where you vomit on purpose after binge eating)
fun fact: GHOST does all their own videos and art!
GHOST Is such a good artist I could NEVER 😭😭
As a chubby person who struggles with a binge eating disorder and body dysmorphia and has attempted to starve myself or even cut my fat off, this song painfully relates to me and it makes me cry sometimes, I honestly feel weak for having these problems-
I'm so happy you made a video about a Ghost's song, i really love them ^^
So glad you finally reacted to a GHOST song. Their songs are very deep on many different levels.. I can't wait to see more in the future!!
Finally! You reacted to GHOST, their music is amazing! But I personally thought this song was more figurative? Like, "I overeat the implications of your thoughts", I thought that meant something else and not literally eating. I thought the cake represented peoples thoughts and becoming a people pleaser, I didn't think it was actually about a actual eating disorder but I do find the other theories interesting.
Yeah I agree, it is a sort of double meaning song but the eating disorder is more of a metaphor for people pleasing
im so sorry shooshimooshi i fxxking hate society always pushing unrealistic body ideals you shouldnt have had to starve yourself you look amazing ❤
I've been waiting for this for so long. PLEASEEE do more ghost songs
I am trying not to be a people pleaser anymore, I have been practicing saying no and I think I have been doing a pretty good job. This song is pretty relatable. I used to be a pretty bad people pleaser. I wanted to to say yes to people all the time cause I would feel bad if I said no. But I realized that people aren't gonna be mad if you say no and you don't need to feel bad. But it can be hard to say no when you want to make everyone around you happy. But it's good to learn how to say no.
I remember listening to this it was good but that was at 2020 so I cant remember much about it but what I do know a little about it is that its about a girl that cant stop eating or something thats all I know, bye
Edit: K I'm back you guys so after checking out the video( the one we are reacting too right now) and rewatching it this is my interpretation of the video.
the part were she said "I'll consume perfection" I think it means that every cake she consumes represents a persons identity or personality like she is copying them or something by consuming it and the part were she eats the whole cake is like for example the whole cake represents a group of people and each piece is one persons personality but since she eating the whole cake she is trying to consume all peoples personality and in the beginning of the video you can see there are so many desserts in the background as well which means that she consumes more than just a whole cake and the more she consumes the more she will start to lose her senses to point of her losing touch of who she should even be anymore and were she starts acting like random people out of nowhere.
Thats my interpretation of the video its not much I will put updates of my analysis K bye
Thank you for reacting to this.😊
the song combines an eating disorder and the metaphors for identity disturbance perfectly
This is my favourite vocaloid song I think, I’ve listened to it an obcene number of times. And yeah, it’s not really about the eating disorder - it’s using it as a metaphor for the mc’s unhealthy people pleasing habits, destroying the self in the process, willing to do anything to please.
okay to be honest, when you said the word 'gordo', you sounded REALLY spanish, i know it because im am spanish myself, so, just to make sure, are you spanish?
I was born in the USA but my parents from 🇲🇽 so I’m bilingual
Ok so in elementary school, i'd watch pbs kids before school. It was alright until they put on those stupid 'Fit Kids' segments when i was like in 4th or 5th grade. Basically drilled in my brain; Fat = bad, and Don't eat too much.
So i started skipping dinner and locking myself in my room. I still do it to this day :)
YES I LOVE GHOST'S MUSIC SMM AAAAA, also the art is so good
agreed :)
7:54 literally me when breakfast... (I'm literally having trouble at eating)
Aw thank you sm for reacting to this song Shooshi 💓!! Also the pinned comment is right. While I was watching the chat seemed so fkn annoying and i was just staring at all the reaction requests like "😐". I really really loved this song/video tho 🥰
I developed an eating disorder in the summer of 2020. I had this giant box of cheese its, and if I ever got hunger pangs I'd just eat one or two. I dropped about 20 pounds in 2 months. I managed to break the habit on my own, but I still get those urges to just starve myself. I think the root cause of my disorder was my mother. Aside from already being a terribly abusive person, she used to make me show her my stomach every few days from the age of like 7. Every time she'd tell me over and over again that I needed to lose weight, that I was so fat. It really screwed up my perception of myself and it manifested as body dismorphia. It's been a long ride but I'm really hoping to get better. :]
Could you react to Happy days? It's also a song from GHOST.
i personally really relate to this song and i was so happy when i saw that you covered it, if im being honest im still struggling with my ED , but not as much as i once was when i was in middle school and high school , actually i've managed to gain weight, and keep it (if anything im a bit overweight now) but i still struggle with so desperately wanting the approval of people and being exactly what people want , its a horrible vicious , harmful cycle thats so incredibly hard to break free of.
for me, while i'm doing a lot better these days, the stressors that had once lead me down that harmful path have come back , and now im struggling again , but i know with just a bit of time that i'll be okay, i'll make it through, and i'll be stronger and maybe even wiser for it. but right now, things are so difficult. i just want to feel normal.
i hope that you're doing a lot better these days, and i'm sure that friends you have would be so sad if they found out you were hurting in such a way , remember there's always someone who's willing to listen to you, willing to help you, and even if its scary, please reach out if you feel you need help, not just you Shooshi, but to anyone who reads this
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One of the first songs by GHOST I ever heard. Hit the ppl pleasing part of me hard.
I hope you can react to Honey I'm Home or Entomologist by GHOST
I love this song. I love how it gives attention to eating disorders which rarely get represented correctly so I’m glad this exist to help people with these disorders.
Also I know this Kikuo song that is amazing but doesn’t get a lot of attention it’s called XxX cat listen to it and I posted a theory that I think is really close
this rly hit me in the feels ,,, thank u shooshi for bringing this song to my attention and continuing to be the amazing streamer/youtuber u are :))
See I live for comments like this. Thank you :)
The moment when I saw the thumbnail of the video, I was like YES!!!!!!
Yes I love ghost!!!! You should listen to “honey I’m home” next!!! It’s another ghost and pal song and it’s amazing!
100%
For me, mine starts off with me not eating anything, and then gets unbearable to not eat so I just end up binge eating, or I just forget to eat in general
to be honest i think the eating disorder is more of a metaphor and being a perfectionist that wants to please everyone to become this perfect sweet desirable person that pleases everyone and makes everyone happy even at the cost of their very self and essence, their own will and identity
the best part about this song is that V4 flower doesnt have an english voice box, the favt that ghost and pals can make her say such complicated words and for it to all make sense is crazy.
Thus song is one of my favorites, I really love Ghost's music, I relate to a lot of them.
I developed an eating disorder at the age of ten after my mom mentioning my weight throughout my childhood, I only started to recover when the pandemic started because at the time I was spending more time with friends than family. I just wish people would be more considerate with their words... I was constantly told that words shouldn't effect me from a really young age and when I came out to my parents with my ed, they brushed it off because I was still visibly chubby (I couldn't shake off the fat in my stomach and thigh areas, everything else was skin and bones). My parents don't understand how eds work, they say that the people should just exercise and everything would be fine.
They still mention my weight from time to time... I've neatly relapsed so many times due to it... I can't get rid of the mindset because of them.
WE HAVE FINALLY REACHED GHOST
The fact that the chat doesnt give a sh1t about the serious matter shooshi is talking about. Its so immature tbh.
I literally started crying while listening to Appetite of a People-Pleaser because of how much I related to it, my people pleasing ended up to me developing Anorexia and Bulimia, I've been eating less and less everyday. None of my family has even noticed yet, I really can only talk to people online about it, honestly so glad I found out about the VOCALOID community, the songs are my way to cope lmao
Im sorry but is it weird to think i should start doing what you did as a kid so you could lose weight?
i love that this song is so relatable because you can interpret flower in this song as an overeater or an undereater, whatever lines up with your experience.
"I still demand, give me more"
"I'll overeat the implications to your thoughts, just to make you happy"
"And yet I know my insides are empty"
"I'm starving"
It's the opposite for me.
I always used to be really thin and there was nothing wrong with it.. some people are chubby and some are.. thin, alright?
But my entire family always worried about how I ate such little amounts of food and forced me to overeat to the point I get a little s1ck
I just get full easily, okay?
But for them.. it wasn't okay
They kept doing this until one day...
I was diagnosed with pancreatitis.
My pancreas nearly failed.
Which resulted in intense v0m1t1ng.
Which resulted in SEVERE emetophobia.
I need a song about that phobia now pls-
I've been getting into burning CDs and this one is going on the "Vocaloid Hell :)" CD right next to housewife radio and kikuo's stuff 😂
As a youngn' I find CDS very interesting because it's a playlist that you can never change again.
It's a permanent capsule of your music taste and if a song for example falls out of favor you either have to skip it every time or tuck that CD away never to be seen again.
It also just kind of hits different in the car lol😂😅
Oooh a GHOST song!! honestly their songs are really good and honestly too relatable for me. Especially this one. I've had both ED and been a people pleaser for a couple years. Throughout school I was a people pleaser, mainly to my parents but also to any friends I made. To me then, relationships were like a glass vase so delicate that you slip up once and then, crash. It also really didn't help that I was so insecure and at times, didn't even feel like I was a person. The way they describe it in the song as saying, being the double-edged sword that it is, they consume personality traits is quite real and is terrifying to realize once you've went so far with it. Though now I'm better, still taking it one step at a time but making myself feel more confident nonetheless.
You should react to The Distortionist, it’s really good
I don't know whether it's type of ed, but
Since I was little, I had troubles with my appetite. It's not that I was overeating, no, the opposite thing. I had (and still have) periods when I simply couldn't feel any starvation. And it sucks, 'cuz I also had no sense of fullness. In conclusion, I have to have an eating schedule in order to normally function (stomachache+blacking out
See i dont know if this is like a bad thing but i do not eat anything at all during the day and then eat all of my dinner + a million snacks during the middle of the night. And even if my mom doesnt make dinner i just starve. So i understand to a DEGREE im not saying i completely understand, but im able to empathize with other struggles and im sorry some of you guys are going through this.
YES FINALLY GHOST! Ghost is my fav song creator, I'm so happy you reacted to them! Their songs are bangers with meanings that really hit hard. If you want 'The Distortionist' and 'Honey I'm Home' are also incredible. They also made a series callled Communications in which are four songs: rotary dial, black&white, housewife radio and broadcast illusion in that order. The series was canceled because of Ghost personal reasons but those song are relly good. I would be really happy to see you react to them :D
Also congrats on 66,6 thousands subscribers!
You mentioned that you were starving yourself back than and when you started talking about how little you ate, it made me a bit scared because I eat about just as much every day as you said. What's worse: I do it unintentionally. Sometimes, I eat a LOT, my appetite is endless, but I don't feel like I have to eat at all. Anyway, I will never gain any weight by eating. It's like my body burns more calories the it can possibly contain. Now, I am satisfied with myself and realized that my apparance really suits my personality.
I wanted to know if you know r.i.p they have done some strange songs just type R.I.P vocaloid
I remember my siblings would always call me "Toothpick" or other things like that because of skinny I was, so I would always eat a lot but I still have a hard time gaining weight, I still don't even weigh a 100 pounds yet. But I'm feeling better about my body now ❤
ik im a year late but, i relate to this song so much, im trying to get out of my binge eating habit but sometimes its way to hard. im someone who eats their feelings so that leads to me eating a lot. its really hard for me bc ive gained weight so fast and its caused me to hate myself afterwards and sometimes i try converting to starving bc of the way my body looks. its really hard for me to have a binge eating disorder but im slowly, but surely getting out of it by portioning my food sizes.
My family always says “eating again?!” In a joking manner but really I’m very self conscious and nervous about what I eat- I feel guilty and nervous when people give me food or just eat in front of people. I feel gross when I eat, I’ve never threw up due to the guilty feeling though- I hate eating in front of people or making food I like in front of people in fear they will judge me. Because of that I always kept what I eat secret or just not eat- but oh well, life is life :> :3
People called me fatass cause I ate so much yet I never got over 70 pounds for 2 years 😭 I ate over 10 plates of spaghetti a day and more like HOW
It kind of bothers me how a lot of people in the comments of the original and this keep saying "Ghost used eating disorders as a metaphor." I'm not necessarily sure they did? Eating disorders pretty much always have an emotional aspect to them. While it isn't always the cause, EDs CAN be caused by someone feeling ugly and unwanted by others, so they do things like starving themself or purging to get validation from people. Binging can happen to fill an emotional emptiness that someone feels, or as a stress response.
It makes a lot of sense to relate to feelings of inadequacy, loneliness, and trying to people everyone, even if you don't have an ED. Those aren't things that only people with EDs feel. But it really bothers me how people say "they used an ED as a metaphor for emotions" as if the eating disorder and the emotions are completely unrelated. You can relate to the parts of the song you see yourself in, but erasing the link between self-hating feelings and eating disorders is a really frustrating thing to see people doing.
when i was in 6th grade i started to not eat as much and i found out i was suffering for many mental disorders. i have always hated myself and my life for just being me and before 6th grade i was bullied (my parents don't believe this either) but when my old friend told everyone in our classes the pretended to be nice and i could tell they were lying. i started to develop an eating disorder. and i was told it wasn't real. it was my imagination and i still dont eat that much because i think im am fat and ugly. Im 19 now and still suffering, hanging on by a string, but im still looking for the light that will help me, the happiness i once had. and to anyone who is going trough the same thing or worse, there will be a light, hope that we will succeed in life. i promise
keep going
Alice Nightingale
i still have my eating disorder, though ppl would say my health and body weight is "normal and healthy" the issue is that my eating disorder ended up forming through child abuse and starvation from my mother then from my dad's side and my step mother. I can say that's when the body shaming started yet all of them were over weight an had the nerve to judge me an my body or looks just because i looked better then them at their age. And now i watch what i eat, worse part is my eating disorder is starting to worsen again an i can only eat 2 meals but most days 1 meal a day or half a meal. I am trying to get better but with "family" removed and cut out my life an having a lack of friendships, i only got me , myself an i through this rough journey. Wish me luck shooshiMooshi. Oh and thank you for all of your content i love yr channel and yr hardwork.
If you're going to listen to GHOST songs you gotta listen to Amygdala's Rag Doll! It's a classic c:
i feel like he should listen to hyperdontia by GHOST, its one of my favorite songs
i feel bad about my body. even though everyone says im skinny, when i dont feel like it. my mom got mad at me for thinking that.
I don’t like how much I can relate to “I’ll eat as much to make you happy!”
SHOOSHI!!
i'm glad you reacted to GHOST!I always loved their music,I absolutely loved this song also it's one of my favorite GHOST songs-one of fav vocaloid songs in general.Also GHOST is so talented omg like they even made the pv,GHOST's artstyle is so amazing
Also the character's name is Cakey, *CAKEY SUPREMACY* ,they're so cute omg
Fun fact: im writing down the lyrics of every non April fools song by ghost and i finished the lyrics for this song
Wait, I didn't know this was about an eating disorder. I thought it was about a person who always wanted to please others so they changed themselves to fit into a mold. I never thought about the eating disord perspective.
I also thought the mentions of being hungry and eating meant they craved attention and compassion from others.
It can be both. The fundamental message is the same
I still have a eating disorder like whenever I eat food I get sick then i get more sick then i eat more and it sucks ( bc I'm skinny af) and I dont eat breakfast and very rarely lunch that's why I can understand what you go threw and same with the song
It's not necessarily about eating disorders but the creator of This song says it's fine to interpret it however people like
I don’t think I have a disorder yet I do all these things and my family tries to make me stop and they criticize me. I hate my fat body.
Ghost songs in general can be super dark. Colors look good and cheerful but the songs themselves are dark unless it's honey I'm home no colors there.
People pleaser is my favorite ghost song and although I don't relate I can understand on a human being level.
Me as a person that was fat I can related
If you react to more Ghost songs I recommend Housewife Radio