Mark Shaw | The 60th anniversary of JFK's assassination: A retrospective
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Join bestselling author Mark Shaw as he delves into one of modern history's most significant events-the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Sixty years after that fateful day on November 22, 1963, questions about the assassination persist, leading to a myriad of speculations and theories.
Shaw's research, particularly through the eyes of journalist Dorothy Kilgallen, who interviewed Jack Ruby at his 1964 trial, sheds new light on the events surrounding Kennedy's death. Drawing on Kilgallen's investigation and his own research, Shaw offers clear answers to long-standing questions, challenging the findings of the Warren Commission Report.
In this compelling talk, Shaw reviews the evidence, separating fact from speculation and highlighting the impact of Kennedy's assassination on American politics and key figures such as Kilgallen, Marilyn Monroe, and Robert Kennedy. Don't miss this opportunity to gain a deeper understanding of this pivotal moment in history.
Shaw photo courtesy the speaker; Kennedy photo by History in HD on Unsplash.
November 7, 2023
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Mark Shaw
Author, Collateral Damage and Fighting for Justice
In Conversation with George Hammond
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It does not matter how many years have passed , if there is a slight hope for the US of America it is to bring back justice to JFK and denounce the good old boys paradigm which has gripped this country since.
I don't know what hour political views are but maybe RFKjr. might be the only one who will be up for the challenge!
They werent good old boys. They were CIA and they are murderers! Its the same deep state we know today.
@@selket51 Crypto-fascist anti-vaxxer - his uncle & father would be appalled & ashamed.
Santo Trafficante, Jr. , Carlos Marcello & Sam Giancana (American Mafioso)along with Allen Dulles (CIA) , & the 3 U.S. Generals: Walker, Cabell, & Lemay & last but not least, Lyndon Baines Johnson are all dead now. But they still should have to answer for their part in JFK's assassination. Only Lee Harvey Oswald should Rest in Peace.
@@selket51❤😂🎉😮
Mr Shaw has done so much for the search for the truth that we must be very grateful
@cobar5342 Shaw has "done so much" peddling of unfiltered BS, adding to the mountain of disinformation surrounding the Kennedy case.
He’s a little looney.. Dude killed a cop, it’s ok to stop defending him with utter nonsense, now.. lol..
This guy written 950,000 words about the last five seconds of JFK's life which sounds long winded to me...this involved two shots fired by Oswald, one missing and hitting the road and the other hitting Kennedy in the back of his neck and going on to hit Connolly multiple times...At the same instant a second shot (AR15 round) hit Kennedy in the back of his head fragmented inside his skull and blew a fist size hole out over his right eye. This shot was accidently fired by security officer George Hickey when kneeling on the back seat of the follow up car... fell over backwards when the car accelerated and the weapon discharged....I've done it in about 90 words....I didn't need 950,000 words of bullshit. my facts are on page 308 of "JFK the smoking gun"by Colin McLaren which shows Hickey waving a AR15 around in the air. Further proof...it is impossible for a 6.5 cacarno round to fragment as it doest have the speed to do so!. Using Zapruda's film and tracing the bullet route back through Kennedy's skull points directly at Hickey in the follow up car.
The Government never wanted the people of America to know that their most popular President was killed by his own security Guard. Be a dope and feed on the bullshit they feed you...Guy on the hill, guy with an umbrella, Castro, The underworld, Russia, the magic bullet, Oswald fired 3 shots etc,etc, etc!
@@robertcarveth8722
Hey man.. They peeled a fragment from JFK’s scalp that was large enough to have markings on it to get a conclusive match to test bullets fired by Oswald’s rifle.. His rifle hit JFK in the head, without question..
@@robertcarveth8722 That agent Hickey could have fired an AR-15 into Kennedy's head with hundreds of spectators watching and somehow not seeing is specious enough. But neutron activation analysis of the lead fragments in Kennedy's brain and wounds showed all of them came from Oswald's rifle. There were no lead fragments from any other firearm. In 1992, Hickey was awarded a massive settlement based on this slanderous assertion found in the book, "Mortal Error." The book is a glaring lie, and the authors should be ashamed for introducing yet another myth into the assassination.
It’s been 60 years now … It’s seems like yesterday.
No it doesn't.
Well it seems like yesterday to him 🤬
no kidding, my mind has a clear picture of that day, kinda freaky...
Sadly, it does seem just a moment, ago 💔 We all know where we were, when we heard the devastating news. We went immediately home, and my Mother was waiting, to take us to church, at St. Francis Xavier, in Hyannis❤ We walked in & Mrs. Joe Kennedy (Rose🌹) was already there, praying, with an obvious heavy heart. My Mum & she had a casual acquaintance, as they both attended 7:00 AM Daily Mass♥️ We felt like we lost not only a beloved President, but also a neighbor & friend!
@@juliegoff1731 Yes!❤️ ❤️❤️
Great interview with Mark! Just want to point out that Raoul Wallenberg was not a Hungarian Jew as he states, but a Swedish diplomat serving as Sweden's special envoy in Budapest, saving many many Jews from deportation during the German occupation. Just a small comment for an otherwise very interesting and revealing presentation by Mr Shaw.
There is a beautiful Memorial to Mr.Wallenberg across from the United Nations.
Thank you for the clarification sir.
Growing up in the 70s this was a frequent topic of discussion ❤❤❤
Oswald alone never made sense. Americans were naive about their government. Still are, but one thing is true, Oswald alone was ridiculous from day one. There were a few people I knew who saw the lie, but they were rare. Like most people, I believed the lie even when confronted by truth seekers. Shame on me.
There is at least one book about the JFK case that was published in the many years between the JFK assassination and the publication of Mark Shaw's books about Dorothy Kilgallen/Marilyn Monroe and JFK that mentions Dorothy Kilgallen and that is Harrison Livingstone and Robert Groden's book, "High Treason" (published in 1989, mass market paperback edition published in 1990), but in fairness to Mark Shaw, that book only mentions Kilgallen as being one of the numerous, suspicious, mysterious deaths of people in the JFK case or people connected to the JFK case and does not examine Kilgallen's investigation of the JFK case.
no need to mention dorothy as there is nothing to the claims by her biographer that dorothy was going to break the case wide open. if she had the goods to break the case wide open, she wouldn't have sat on it for two years. her biographer was just trying to drum up interest in her biography.
Wow thank you so much, although I was only 10 when JFK was brutally murdered, and came home to see my Dad crying, a night I'll never forget. As I grew up, I realised, without doubt that Oswald was not the lone assassin, let alone even if he ever pulled a trigger at all. This has been an amazing insight to who actually organised the brutal murder of JFK but more sinister the powerful & devious whitewash cover up to this day 60 years on. The American people let alone the world need to know the truth. Thank you.
I too was 10 years old when JFK was assassinated.
At first, being so young, I believed the Warren Commission version of events.
But then, I decided to delve much deeper into this tragic event.
Motive
Means
Opportunity
Who has the power to cover it up?
1 man, and 1 man ONLY satisfied ALL 4 criteria, and it sure as hell wasn't Lee Harvey Oswald.
LBJ the sociopath was undoubtedly behind it.
Mike, I was 11 at the time and I've been looking for answers about what ACTUALLY happened. I agree with you that Oswald was SET UP and killed before he could face his accusers.
I was in the third grade…8 yrs old. I didn’t cry like the rest of my classmates. I froze having had cried out my fathers death in 1961. These episodes excavated a space that came to be filled by the Beatles 3 or 4 months after JFK.
The Beatles...
First comment printed was only the Beatles none others accepted by THIS algorithm even today
Compelling evidence in a gripping presentation. Thank you very much for making this available to the public.
I was 4 months old. My mom told me I was napping at the time of the assassination.
This guy written 950,000 words about the last five seconds of JFK's life which sounds long winded to me...this involved two shots fired by Oswald, one missing and hitting the road and the other hitting Kennedy in the back of his neck and going on to hit Connolly multiple times...At the same instant a second shot (AR15 round) hit Kennedy in the back of his head fragmented inside his skull and blew a fist size hole out over his right eye. This shot was accidently fired by security officer George Hickey when kneeling on the back seat of the follow up car... fell over backwards when the car accelerated and the weapon discharged....I've done it in about 90 words....I didn't need 950,000 words of bullshit. my facts are on page 308 of "JFK the smoking gun"by Colin McLaren which shows Hickey waving a AR15 around in the air. Further proof...it is impossible for a 6.5 cacarno round to fragment as it doest have the speed to do so!. Using Zapruda's film and tracing the bullet route back through Kennedy's skull points directly at Hickey in the follow up car.
The Government never wanted the people of America to know that their most popular President was killed by his own security Guard. Be a dope and feed on the bullshit they feed you...Guy on the hill, guy with an umbrella, Castro, The underworld, Russia, the magic bullet, Oswald fired 3 shots etc,etc, etc!
@@robertcarveth8722, another conspiracy theory, must be a trump supporter.
@robertcarveth8722 You're hitting the ol' cut and paste haaard in these comments huh?!? Don't matter how many times you say it, you'll always come across as a nutter I'm afraid....
read the jdk book by Dr Cyril Wecht you get a better understanding of bullet trajectories and a medical opinion on how jfk was killed
Wecht has always been a sound voice on the assassination, through all the years. Good recommendation of yours to look him up 👍
16:48 Raoul Wallenberg: "Hungarian Jew who saved more than 100,000 Jewish people during the Holocaust." Raoul Wallenberg was a Swedish architect, businessman and diplomat who saved Hungarian Jews during the Holocaust.
@@user-sc3ts6lf8r Of course not. I did not suggest that it did. I only wished to correct the only error that I heard.
Dr. Robert McClelland, a doctor who seen JFK in the E.R. after the shooting in Dallas, said the first shot came from ther rear and he was shot by a shooter from the grassy knoll for the second shot. You can watch this in "Uncut Interview-JFK's Emergency Room Dr. Robert McClelland" from an interview in Nov. 12, 2015. Interesting.
@michaeldrasic7587 On March 21, 1964, McClelland wrote in the Texas Journal of Medicine that "the cause of (Kennedy's)death was the massive head and brain injury from a gunshot of the right side of the head." However, McClelland would eventually change his tune, and begin spewing (over the years) such conspiracy-slanted hogwash as a large occipital exit wound, and then a grassy knoll gunman! He'd go on to partner with conspiracy authors in writing books that just add to the mountain of disinformation in the case. (Interesting).
It was hasty autopsy and had some inaccuracies. Entrance and exit wounds are fairly easy to see. Anyway why after the shots were people ESCAPING to the "grassy knoll" - if there was a shooter there? That is plainly seen in multiple films.
@@user-xi7gz6sz4w When a bullet penetrates the skull bone, it will usually leave a small hole on the side from which it enters, and a larger dished-out crater on the side that it exits. The existence of beveling of the bone of Kennedy’s skull allowed the autopsists - and later panels of forensic pathologists - to establish that the bullet that hit Kennedy in the head entered from behind, with at least one large fragment exiting toward the front. The neck wound was an exit wound. The autopsy pathologists were able to determine that by measuring all known facts together: an entry wound at the base of the neck in the rear, a contusion on the apex of the right lung, the wound in the throat, and the fact that the x-rays of the body revealed that no bullets remained inside.
The "rush" to the knoll actually occurred over a minute after the shots, and was triggered by a Dallas motorcycle policeman in the parade, Clyde Haygood, who had no firsthand knowledge of the shot direction. Officer Haygood was a block away when he heard the first of three shots. After racing to Elm Street, he stopped, parked his cycle, and ran up to confer with a policemen he saw on the railbridge. Only then did people start running up after him, falsely thinking he was after a culprit. Big deal....
@@user-xi7gz6sz4whave you ever been shot at? It’s a Chinese fire drill. People run.
@@65TossTrap But many ran toward the "grassy knoll" to escape (which was much closer to them than the Book building), yet conspiracy theorists insist a gunshot came from there. Don't you think the people who were right there would run AWAY from the shots they heard?
Thank you so much for this wonderful and disturbing discussion.. We lost so much in the deaths of the Kennedys, Marilyn Monroe, and Dorothy Kilgallon. May they rest in peace.
This guy written 950,000 words about the last five seconds of JFK's life which sounds long winded to me...this involved two shots fired by Oswald, one missing and hitting the road and the other hitting Kennedy in the back of his neck and going on to hit Connolly multiple times...At the same instant a second shot (AR15 round) hit Kennedy in the back of his head fragmented inside his skull and blew a fist size hole out over his right eye. This shot was accidently fired by security officer George Hickey when kneeling on the back seat of the follow up car... fell over backwards when the car accelerated and the weapon discharged....I've done it in about 90 words....I didn't need 950,000 words of bullshit. my facts are on page 308 of "JFK the smoking gun"by Colin McLaren which shows Hickey waving a AR15 around in the air. Further proof...it is impossible for a 6.5 cacarno round to fragment as it doest have the speed to do so!. Using Zapruda's film and tracing the bullet route back through Kennedy's skull points directly at Hickey in the follow up car.
The Government never wanted the people of America to know that their most popular President was killed by his own security Guard. Be a dope and feed on the bullshit they feed you...Guy on the hill, guy with an umbrella, Castro, The underworld, Russia, the magic bullet, Oswald fired 3 shots etc,etc, etc!
@@robertcarveth8722 oswald never fired a rifle or a handgun that day. period.
Thank you. I saw JFK in Laramie, Wy., just shortly before he went to Dallas. I was 7 and have followed since.
the single bullet theory...not the silver bullet....the video movie of the assassination clearly show there was more then a single bullet and the last shot to the head from the front even thought they try to convince people it didn.'t.
@suebarrett6670 If you are daft enough to think that any shots came from the front, in the face of massive physical, photographic, forensic and ballistic evidence to the contrary, then as an alternate to psychological counseling, schedule an appointment with your local Lenscrafters (clearly).
People who see the Zapruder film or the autopsy pictures then declare a conspiracy to be certain need to be asked: how many other films of people being shot have you seen, and how many other autopsies have you seen pictures of?
They don’t understand the importance of control models.
I disagree. The magic bullet is heavily damaged and still preserved.
@@65TossTrap The photos of the bullet (CE399) taken of its base (not its side) show the base to be severely flattened, with some of the metal core having been forced out, with lead extruding from the bottom. It's not "heavily damaged," but damaged enough that it cannot be called either magic or pristine. CE399 is preserved at the National Archives;College Park, MD.
@@stddisclaimer8020you mean the "massive evidence " from.the WC?
There were multiple assassins that day, front, rear and side. They had to make sure he was killed. Most of the assassins met their own fate after the assassination. They could talk and they were silenced.
I don’t believe for one moment that LHO even fired a shot that day. He was seen after his spell in Russia and the loner type to be just the guy to take the fall for this operation. Oswald was set up months before by his so-called friends getting him a job at the Book Depository. He even admired JFK. The whole assassination was too complex for LHO to be involved. This was a highly professional hit.
I also believe that Jack Ruby was ordered to kill LHO as there was little evidence to convict him. There would,of course, be a massive hunt headed by Robert Kennedy if there wasn’t enough evidence to convict him. This would have been problematic for many people.
The feeling was Oswald is dead. Move on.The case is closed. No need to have any further investigation. The authorities acted as judge and jury. There were many involved that day as Kennedy had made numerous enemies from Texas Oil, The Mafia, CIA, FBI, Lyndon Johnson and organisations who hated Black people having equal rights.
The angle of the various head wounds on JFK made it impossible for all the shots to come from the SBD. I believe there was at least 4 assassins that day and at least 6-8 shots were fired. There probably was an assassin in the SBD but I don’t think it was Oswald.
The Warren Commission was so hell bent on having LHO as the lone gun man that they came up with the magic bullet theory. This explained why so few shots killed JFK and injured Connolly. The Commission understood that only 3 shots were fired, when in fact at least 2-3 missed their target. I don’t even think Kennedys head wound came from the Grassy Knoll as the angle was wrong. I think the shot came from the front. The Grassy Knoll theory would have had the bullet exiting the left side of Kennedy head which did not happen. The bullet entered the right front and came out on the back right which indicates a frontal shot.
Don’t forget military industrial complex also had issues about JFK when they discovered that JFK had had orchestrated a back channel for communication with Khrushchev and backing off of Castro.
@@lilliemcmullen2021 yes, there were many reasons to assassinate JFK. The secret service had to enter the funeral parlour with the rifle to place Oswalds finger prints on the gun.
what do you mean most of the assassins met their own fate?
@@larciabella The possible assassins who have been named were killed within 10 years or so. They lived dangerous lives. Criminal circles. One was gunned down by the Police in Mexico.
Why don’t they release the remaining files, if they have nothing to hide release them. Surely theirs someone in America can demand this, it’s beyond a joke sixty years on !!
Because they have something to hide...
Of course Dorothy Kilgallen wasnt invited to the HSCA because she died November 8, 1965, 11 years before the HSCA.
Dorothy had a daily column, she had every opportunity to write what she knew every day in her column. She didn't.
Well you're wrong in stating no other author's mentioned Dorothy Kilgallen as James W. Douglass did in 'JFK the Unspeakable' (2008) which imho is a definitive account of the who & why of JFK's assassination. This book has over 100 pages of notes and source references and is an incredible piece of research.
There's no way the Mafia specifically Carlos Marcello, could have orchestrated an operation of that magnitude involving altering the parade route, having Secret Service people stand down, leaving windows open along the parade route, having the limousine slow dow to nearly a dead stop etc.
I have come to believe that the Mafia was involved as one cog in a conspiracy orchestrated by the CIA. There were known ties between the Mafia and the CIA. Most of those involved played only a small part without knowing the full picture. And like like Lee Harvey Oswald (now revealed as a low-level CIA operative) claimed, he was the patsy. The Warren Investigation was a sham, a quick and dirty whitewash.
and you know this for a fact? Better inform Mark because his explanation seems plausible to me and I was 12 back in 1963, so I was alive back then. Saw Walter Cronkite's mid day report.
@@danielmoroff6179 I think Antony and I are likely in agreement -- his claim was that the Mafia (specifically Carlos Marcello) was not the originator and mastermind behind the conspiracy, which I agree with. I merely pointed out that there is considerable evidence of Mafia involvement, but also that they were not the ones pulling the strings behind the scene. If there was a conspiracy, I believe only the CIA could have pulled off not only the complexity of the operation itself, but also the coverup within the federal government. There seem to be CIA fingerprints all over the event.
Earle Cabell was the mayor of Dallas on November 22, 1963, the day of the JFK Assassination. Mayor Earle Cabell was the brother of General Charles Cabell, who was the assistant CIA Direction under Allen Dulles. JFK fired both General Cabell and Allen Dulles after the Bay of Pigs fiasco). Carlos Marcello was the very powerful Mafia Boss, whose territory encompassed New Orleans through Dallas. Are you putting this all together now? You, my friend, need to do a lot more reading and not just watch TH-cam videos!
the Mafia was working with the CIA?
My interest started, while listening to Mae Brussel on a radio show from Carmel, California and she mentioned Mark Shaw way back when.
mae's broadcasts on these issuses were some of the first, highly recommend them.
Early on in the interview, he mentions something about violence in the 1970s and then talks about things that happened in the 1960s. Raul Wallenberg was Swedish, he rested Hungarian Jews during WWII. This guy is foggy in the head.
JFK, A unique man who wanted peace and was up against those who had another agenda.
We could use President Kennedy today to save us from sliding further into the abyss. God help us all. 🙏🏻
The other agenda was 'LBJ' and his evil minions!
Please identify “those who had another agenda”
@@Solitude47152, didn’t you watch all of this video.
This was actually a really good presentation. Honors!
The Commonwealth Club should think about inviting other researchers the next time they want to discuss the Kennedy assassination. Others have also done research and written multiple books on the topic.
Great discussion Tks for your time
The 60th Commemorative anniversary. I was five and of course remembered where I was on that tragic day. The world took a different historical trajectory on November 22, 1963, and a lot of it unfortunately and sadly has not been for the better. 😔
I was in the lunchroom that day at school and was so upset I could not eat. Most of the students hardly ate. E were walking around in shock heartbroken. we saw the horse with the saddle on backward and as it went by little John John gave a beautiful salute to his dad. John Kennedy was a great man.
It was so heartbreaking
You do know he was a serial womanizer just like his old man. Jfk brought some of his conquests into the white house while his wife Jackie was there looking after his kids.
Release the Records! It's time for Sasquatch to face Justice!!
He keeps misstating details. Not sure how much to trust him.
He says the 1970s were violent, then lists all the violence of the 1960s.
Raoul Wallenberg was not a Hungarian Jew. He was a Swedish diplomat who saved Hungarian Jews.
A Swedish Jew Diplomat. Look at his name.
@@user-ff8es1tl9dHe was apparently only 1/16 Jewish on his mother's side.
He was a 1935 graduate of the University of Michigan College of Architecture.
I think the main reason Shaw isn't invited to speak is mainly because he can barely stop speaking. That ramble of his was about 50% fluff-istory, 2% old-man confusion, 45% to the point and insightful, and a final 3% book-tossing/plugging. The moderator didn't. Bang.
Most of what he says or blames on Hoover is contradicted by other accounts. One thing occurs to me listening to this. The Oswald alone theory would not have left Hoover and the FBI off the hook, because the FBI botched that too, failing to surveil and keep an eye on Oswald before Nov.22.
Shaw is just another crazy person who has lived his whole life dismissing facts and evidence to believe what he wants.. Which is living in a fantasy world..
I’m tired of conspiracy earth, myself.. Don’t know about you?..
@@jacobjones5269 more than tired of it, yes!
@eameece same w/ 9/11 and the Boston bombing. we always get to read (too late) eventually, that the FBI knew these freaks personally! these events didn't have to happen. and the punks who did Boston may have murdered 2 guys in Allston, also. they'd been interviewed at length, by the Feds well before the carnage took place.the Russians (the Russians!) warned our people about the Tsarnaev boys.
@@jacobjones5269 Enjoy your delusion about Mark Shaw! Shaw's only flaw - albeit a significant one - is when he erroneously claims to have discovered some evidence in the JFK case and Marilyn Monroe cases which was actually discovered by other independent researchers many years before Shaw began his research into those 2 cases - a failure by Shaw because he by his own admission to Coast2CoastAM radio talk show host George Noory during a radio interview on that show, stated that he did not read any books or articles written about the Marilyn Monroe case published after about 1965 - had he read those other works by those other independent researchers, he would have realized that, for examples, (1) at least one other researcher discovered the report by LAPD officer Lynn Franklin that Franklin stopped Peter Lawford's car (with RFK in the backseat and Dr. Ralph Greenson - Monroe's psychiatrist in the front passenger seat) shortly after midnight on the morning of August 5, 1962 for speeding and Lawford lied when he told Franklin that he was driving RFK to an important meeting at a hotel - not only does a U.S. Attorney General not schedule important meetings after midnight but also Lawford told officer Franklin two different hotels he was driving RFK to, and Franklin told Lawford both times that he was going in the wrong direction, (2) that at least one other researcher had discovered the journal/log entry at 20th Century Fox Studios in L.A. that indicated that RFK landed in a helicopter there on August 4, 1962 the day Monroe died (so Shaw did not "destroy" - as he wrongly claimed to George Noory - RFK's alibi that RFK wasn't in L.A. on the day Monroe died) and (3) that it was actually the staff attorneys on the Warren Commission and not the Commission members themselves who conducted most of the interviews of witnesses in the JFK case! I distinctly remember reading those three things in other researchers' books about the Marilyn Monroe and JFK cases (although I can't recall the names of the authors or titles of those books because it has been so many years since I read those books) years before Shaw's recent books about Monroe, Dorothy Kilgallen and JFK were published. But Shaw is absolutely correct that the Warren Commission was corrupt in that it deliberately withheld the truth in the JFK case from the American people and the world! The revelations discovered by Shaw's research about what Senator John Sherman Cooper (who was a member of the Warren Commission) told his legislative assistant Morris Wolff (who also worked for JFK and RFK and who Shaw has interviewed at least twice) about the Warren Commission corruption confirm that fact!
Interested in how you feel about the James Files Mafia connection?
Rauol Wallenberg was actually a Swedish diplomat stationed in Hungary who saved thousands of Jews.
I’m very confused by all this talk by Shaw about Hoover choosing the members of the WC. I understood that Johnson chose the panel and persuaded Warren to chair it, even tho Warren didn’t want to. Then Dulles actually ran the proceedings.
Johnson chose the panel members. Dulles was recommended to him by RFK. Warren ran the proceedings.
Sorry, no. The CIA lobbied to have Dulles put on the commission and he’s the only one who didn’t have a regular job (fired by JFK). Dulles ran the proceedings, Warren was rarely involved, just named because his “good” name lent public credence.@@kegeshook1734
@@kegeshook1734 That is something in dispute. RFK may have thought well of Dulles and figured the firing was just Bay of Pigs comeuppance. History suggests Dulles as, well, I cannot come up with an apt description but it ain't good. One thing for sure is whenever LBJ opened his mouth he was lying.
@@mrcigartruth3832 Dulles was not fired. He resigned.
The assertion that Hoover chose the WC members and manipulated them without any documentation is dubious and I am not a Hoover lover.
what about the interview on youtube with the 2 doctors back then in the emergency room? one stated, that he saw the wound at the back of the head closely enough and it was way lower than in real time, than the reports later on showed. they also stated that they never saw the x-rays for security reasons and a few other things... I think their statements should also to be taken into consideration.
60 years and we still think Oswald didn't do it 😢
Why was he killed 2 days later . Some one or some group didn't want him talking so they had to silence him
The Zapruder film was optically altered to hide key frames. The fatal head shot was from the grassy knoll with multiple snipers.
Sorry, but I couldn't watch this for more than a few minutes; a grown man's insistence on wearing a wide-brimmed hat indoors speaks to across-the-board credibility. This damaged his.
It looks like a talking hat. Like the 70s Saturday morning Lidsville show, where everything was a hat.
The answer is simple WHO DID IT THE WARREN COMMISION
He stated he was a freshman at Purdue University when the event took place a few seconds later he states he was finishing his fifth year. There seems to be issues of inarticulate words and serious memory lapse. Were you a freshman or were you completing your fifth year at age 18.?
Thanks for asking. I heard that too at 2:55 , but promptly forgot. Nice catch on your part!
Maybe he was a 5th year freshman 🤣🤣🤣
At 3:17 he mis spoke when he said the 1970's were very violent years - obviously he meant to say 1960's. Just like the error your smart @ss cites, it's IRRELEVANT.
Even this presentation could be a scam
@@rezzer7918 BS, facts are important, just not for you, smart @ss.
I find this very interesting. Boggs plane was never found. I did not realize Boggs was on commission.
Hale Boggs was the father of recently deceased TV journalist "Cokie" Roberts.
The government lied. How shocking. (heavy sarcasm)
To a12 year old, that was a shocking, life altering realization
thank u mark for all ur work, ur dorothy killgallen info is priceless. (i was 12 at the time in texas, we all knew instantly LBJ had a hand in it, he was shifty)
Shifty is quite an understatement. He was the most vile, crass, corrupt and ambitious man ever to hold the office.
@@markalexander832 a real slime bag.
Additional insight with Rob Reiner(yes, THAT Rob Reiner) his podcast is very well researched with up to date answers to questions we had all wanted to know AND more realistic than the Warren Commission who had CIA on it. Pfft no wonder since LBJ chose the members.
I used to work for Mr. Reiner, he's a great guy. I'm sure his work will cast some light on this controversy.
Rob Reiner & Soledad O’Brien have an excellent iHeart podcast, going into incredible detail with names of major and minor players. I highly recommend it to anyone interested as Rob & Soledad are weaving the players and timeline quite well. It seems now I find after reading a few recently published books & watching You Tube videos, then going over my notes from older published books, (Mark Shaw’s among them - “Reporter Who Knew Too Much” & “Denial of Justice”) I’m beginning to think there were at least 5 snipers around Dealey Plaza. Some with silencers, each with their own spotter who could keep track of the freshly yellow painted curb markers in the “kill zone.” And if those teams failed in Dealey, there was at least one team on a higher floor of the Cabana Motor Hotel overlooking the Stemmons Freeway. The hotel exterior had a latticework pattern facade of X-shaped concrete blocks, perfect to disguise a sniper’s rifle barrel. And at least one team at the Trade Mart, a perfect setting with the surrounding catwalks and numerous exits. The final chance was at the Austin the BBQ fundraiser. JFK wasn’t going to leave Texas alive. I hope we can get all the answers and soon, it’s been a long 60 years of waiting.
A guy that would wear a hat like that ought a get a free bowl of soup 😂.( Rodney Dangerfield)
I have watched a lot of videos recently on this topic, and my conclusion is, it appears quite a few people are making money from this event and it would be a disaster if there was ever a definitive answer to the assassination.
Thank you so much!!!!! I really ENJOYED and learned from this! AWESOME ! 🙏 Zane 👍💙👊
He stated that John Kennedy was elected president in the 1970s. Who is this man where did he come from and how was he highlighted to become a JFK presenter. Surprising that nobody in the audience was laughing
Raoul Wallenberg was not a Hungarian jew! He was a member of the very rich Swedish Wallenberg family. They in fact owned the automaker SAAB.
This is a fantastic Video. Great to hear this new evidence and quotes from people on the Warren Commission behind the scenes. Thank You, Mark Shaw.
Starting at 42:00, Shaw states that Dorothy Kilgallen was "was not at the House Select Committee on Assassinations." No kidding, genius. The HSCA did its work from 1976 to 1978, and then reported in the following year. Unfortunately, Kilgallen had died in 1965, so she wasn't available.
Jackie had everyone killed, she was tired of his womanising.
Thank you for your contribution.
Excellent program! Thank you!
Ford was actually the conduit to Hoover, this has been well documented. His job was to keep Hoover well informed as to what the WC was doing (as well as the guy that moved the location of JFK's back wound to his neck-to try and make the Magic bullet fantasy make a little more sense. -as disclosed by the AARB in the 90s). This guy is a sloppy 'historian" and his theories are more sensationalist than fact based.
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz Conspiracists have insisted that the wound in Kennedy's back was too low to be consistent with the Single Bullet Theory. Thus, the fact that Warren Commission member Gerald Ford changed the description of the wound in a draft of the Warren Commission Report from "back at a point slightly above the shoulder" to "back of his neck" seems sinister to them. Dr. Humes told the WC that the entrance wound was in the “low neck,” but went on to say it was “just above the upper border of the scapula” (which is really the upper back).
That guy really needs to lose the hat.
That is an awful hat. Wow.
just by sayin' that, he will double down-and pull it down even further.
a hat like that decreases one’s credibility
I have at this moment a spot on my head where my dermatologist 'froze' a suspicious thing. I want to wear a hat to keep it covered. Perhaps the man has something on his scalp that would be more distracting than the hat, and golks would be saying, "He should cover that up, maybe with a hat..."
I have learned that " assuming" in life is Not a wise,positive action to have nor take.Voltaire stated:" Common Sense is not so common. " I did Not ever think,Lee Harvey Oswald shot President Kennedy, as how could someone with such low income afford to travel by an airplane back and forth to Russia? Oswald asked several times for legal representation and did Not receive it during those times. There was No documentation of any interviews between Oswald and the Dallas Police Department.How could Lee H,Oswald be charged with assassinating President Kennedy,if there is NO record of his statements with legal authorities? None of what the Federal Government,legal authorities stated to the World was factual,it was a coup d' etat. Lee Oswald was what he said he was" a patsy. "There are many other facts such as how could there be so many" reasons" to keep ALL the information for 75 years,if Oswald was the" lone assassin," if it was so black and white,that Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated JFK?,from the Public?
@NancySanders-om4ic 1) The U.S. the Department approved a loan to Oswald for passage to New York only, directing the Embassy to "Keep cost minimum." On June 1 Oswald signed a promissory note for $435.71. Oswald's loan was sufficient to cover no more than the least expensive transportation from Moscow to New York. His passport was stamped as valid only for return to the United States. Oswald completed all necessary forms and affidavits to obtain the loan , which he repaid it before the assassination. 2) No one withheld legal representation from Oswald. He was offered, but he declined the customary public counsel. Instead, he wanted a specific lawyer from NY, John Abt. However, Abt (who was on vacation in Connecticut) could not be reached. 3) It was not common to record suspects back in 1963. However, there are 2-1/2 half pages of DPD Captain Fritz’s contemporaneous handwritten notes at the National Archives. They’re obviously scribbled and sparse for twelve hours of interrogation, but they do set forth when each of the four interrogations of Oswald began, and when they ended. Though Fritz’s notes were sketchy, he was noted for his memory, and said that “several days later” he wrote more extensive notes of the interrogations (4 H 209). 4) Watch the entire clip and Oswald clearly only says he's a patsy in relation to being hassled by the authorities for having "lived in the Soviet Union," not because he was a spook being framed up as the assassin by some coup. 5) No released document has supported the theory of a conspiracy in the Kennedy case; and no yet unreleased document ever will. We know this for a fact because the ARRB examined all unreleased files. After their study was done, they reported there was no "smoking conspiracy gun" in any of them. The docs that have not yet been released are because they contain names of people that are still alive and should be protected; or they detail investigative procedures the FBI, CIA or other governmental agencies do not want publicized.
@@stddisclaimer8020Basically,"what you have stated" is Not anything that has. Ever been mentioned before,and what IS"your substantiated proof," that it Is factually based and supported.Oswald asked for legal representation four different times and he did Not receive it.He worked for Hoover's FBI and for the CIA.His W2 tax form has Not ever been release to show the above connections he had with those agencies.Oswald was a"patsy" as he stated.
By NOW the methods of the FBI,CIA' methods of operations,would long be quite antiquated and Not in use at this time.75 years to keep the World Public from "what happened to President John F.Kennedy," for such a black and white situation to have occurred is absurd. It was a coup d'etat that Happened .
The ARRB was provided with what the Powers that Be "allowed itself to examine,"as so much of the documentation had been blacked out/ dedacted.Oswald had two trips to Soviet Union,Not one..
Oswald was a CIA operative...The Unspeakable is a great book.
I was enjoying this "fireside chat" until Shaw described Raoul Wallenbeg as a "Hungarian jew". FYI, Wahlberg was Swedish and Lutheran, an architect by profession, and a member of the Swedish industrial Wallenberg family. I tuned out of the "chat" after this. If Shaw can't get this simple historical fact right, he cannot be trusted period.
SO HE MADE A MISTAKE, EVERY BODY MAKES MISTAKES. THE REST WAS VERY INTERESTING.
@@nereidatorres7613The guy is a crank.
His hat seems a tad too small
Hard to take this guy’s work seriously when he makes such a massive historical error about Raoul Wallenberg.
I just knew you were going to say....wearing that massive, ugly hat on his head....
Yes, of course. This is the kind of JFK video that will get a million views.
Oswald's Uncle was a lieutenant for Marcello. His testimony at the Warren Commission made no sense. Oswald when he was l6 was a runner for Marcello in New Orleans one summer. Talk about that.
The two Shaws (Gary and Marc) should get together and write a book
Blame Canada
I disagree that organized crime was solely involved as Mark Shaw implies.
Have never heard any in-depth commentary on shoot Thur front windshield ! Planned or accidental?
Front shooter on over pass bridge. Shoots thru glass, hits JFK in the throat. Angle lines up well with windshield bullet hole.
Wasn't it strange that once the crowd noticed the bullet hole the car was moved ? Secret Service agents moved it behind the hospital . Photos of the car taken the day before show the windshield was not damaged .
For Oswald, it was a weird series of events. Ruth Paine said he and Marina were to get back together and get and apt. Marina turned him down and that is the reaon JFK got killed plus the FBI agents assigned to monitor Marina were harrassing her, checking with neighbors all of which pissed Oswald off. He went to the Dallas FBI Offce and wanted to see the agent involved. Not there. Oswald left a note for him and was screaming and yelling. Less than a week later JFK was dead. Talk about dat Senor.
Oswald had to be involved, but maybe he was a patsy.
Ridiculous theory which does not fit the facts.
Thanks for this presentation. Two old guys yakking is boring--unless their topic is interesting.
Dorothy Kilgallen's corpse was proof--but lack of proof (no notes, no book outline, no manuscript, a dead friend having ZERO paperwork connected to this supposed book) is failure to prove guilt in our legal system.
Do you have a copy of the Kilgallen contract for a book on Jack Ruby? Book contracts are a start. How does Mark Lane get a book contact? Doesn't he need to provide at least a synopsis of the book? I was thinking that at least an outline and a sample chapter or two would be the basis for a book contract even with Dorothy Kilgallen's track record.
Have you spoken too or interviewed judyth vary baker?
The speaker, the one under the big hat,continually interrupts himself!
Warren Report is just plain lame silly.
Mark Shaw must not be too bright if he was still a college freshman at Purdue after five years in college. ;)
Some students find it more lucrative to become "professional students" and apply for grants and scholarships for years and years.
Thinking here now and wondering what would have happened if Bobby Kennedy had become president !All would have been revealed,he just had to go.
JFK was murdered 7 days after my 5th birthday and I remember how everyone in my family (adults) were very sad. I accepted the Warren Commission version until I seen the Zapruder film on Good Night America in 1975. At 16 years old I knew that the head shot could not have come from behind and up above! I would love to know the truth as to who all was evolved. Thank You Mark Shaw and all the others who have spent a lifetime digging for the truth.
The 1960's were violent and yes the 70's were no picnic!
Nice hat.
Hat..way too big.
You should know that Dan Rather was the beginning of all the conspiracy theories getting the Zapruder Films sequestered for 11 years.
I researched this for years. Marina, Lee, JFK.
Starting around 52:45, Shaw says that of “all the books written since the JFK assassination, in not any of them will you find the name Dorothy Kilgallen.” That sounded off to me, since I have heard of her connection with JFK before. I don’t have many JFK books, but I quickly found Kilgallen on page 111 of Robert Groden’s famous 1993 picture book “The Killing of a President,” accompanied with a photograph. In fact, way back in 1966, Penn Jones, one of the first generation JFK researchers, tells the Kilgallen story in his book “Forgive My Grief,” on page 24. Finally, Shaw’s claim that Bugliosi doesn’t include Kilgallen in his book “Reclaiming History” could not possibly be more wrong. Bugliosi has a major section on Kilgallen, totaling almost 2000 words. Shaw also claims that he knew Bugliosi. If that is true, it could not have been very well since Shaw doesn’t even pronounce Bugliosi’s name correctly.
Starting at 19:23, Shaw states that Hoover "ships JFK's body off to Washington, D.C. for the autopsy because he says, hey, it's not a state crime to kill the President of the United States." Two questions. What is the evidence that Hoover had anything to with moving the body to Washington? (It was the Secret Service and Kennedy's staff that confronted coroner Earl Rose at Parkland Hospital and took Kennedy's body to Washington.) What is the evidence that Hoover (or anyone) thought it was not a state crime to kill the President? (The controversy at the time was that it was not considered a FEDERAL crime to kill the President. In fact, that is what Hoover testified to the Warren Commission on page 98 of volume five: "It is not a Federal crime to kill or attack the President....")
Pro Tip: Want to be taken seriously? Don't wear funny hats. (and maybe get the decade correct)
He's Amish
One thing's for sure and certain. There's plenty of stupid to go around in this country. There are people who believe, or at least they say they do, that biden's doing a good job. I mean you can't make this schitt up.
He doesn’t think the CIA was involved. Therefore, he’s an insider. An arrogant insider.
The Rockefeller Commission was created in response to a December 1974 report in The New York Times that the CIA had conducted illegal domestic activities, including experiments on U.S. citizens, during the 1960s. The Commission issued a single report in 1975, detailing particular CIA abuses including mail opening and surveillance of domestic dissident groups. It also first publicized Project MKULTRA. However, they found no involvement of the CIA in the JFK assassination.
100% correct.
CORRECT
These people could have come forward to expose the dissent. They didn’t. Why not?
Read up on how Hoover operated to get his way
Comedy hat? Dont want to Rush to Judgement but.
One strong point I haven't heard here is that I believe Dulles's brother John foster Dulles was secretary of state .
Good news Mr Shaw is an excellent researcher and presented wonderful new data. He didn't mention that Hale Boggs disappeared over Alaska in a missing airplane. A few years after his Warren Commission stuff. I like the fake Court reporter for the September 18th meeting. Good work Mr Shaw.
A LOT of people "mysteriously died" connected to JFK's assassination. Unbelievable.
In the 1979 novel "The Matarese Circle", author Robert Ludlum portrayed Boggs as having been killed. Just add that as one more to the dozens of mysterious deaths following this event. It seems rare that a plane goes down and is never found, although it is extremely common that general aviation planes, small, go down.. They are just usually found.
Just some trivia here: ABC NEWS Correspondent Cokie Roberts was Hale Boggs' daughter.
watch ( JFK to 9/11 everything is a rich man's trick ) 3hr 27min version , a lot more info than you got here
You never reallly researched what happened if you don't think Oswald did it and acted alone. Get a life.
Shaw is wrong about other authors of JFK assassination books. Of course, Posner's and Bugliosi's books are bogus but there have been several good books written by author's like Jim Garrison, David Lifton, David Talbot, James Douglass, etc.
What Shaw doesn't discuss is why there's still, 60 years out, some significant efforts to convince the American public of the lone gunman notion. The 6th Floor Museum is part of that effort. There are even a few comments on this post from people who, I have to believe, are part of that effort.
So you believe an honorable man like Bugliosi who spent 20+ years researching the Kennedy assassanation wrote a bogus book? Not to mention that Bugliosi successfully convinced a jury that Oswald acted alone. So I’m supposed to believe that all this information just came out in time for the 60th anniversary?? Nothing against Shaw, I’m sure he believes what he’s saying but it seems all quite implausible and silly to me. Am I 100% certain Oswald acted alone? No. More like 98 or 99%. I’ve read that George HW Bush acted and did strange things on November 21st and November 22nd 1963. So sure I wonder but whatever. I’m still convinced mostly that Oswald acted alone. If Bugliosi was still with us (sadly he passed away) he might very well have a cogent explanation for questions I have.
Totally agree with all you say ,and there's authors there that are indeed so critical to the truth
David Talbot identifies the enemy no 1..Allen dullas ..and Shaw's perception of the Mafia is a total level below their handlers ..the CIA
Posner's and Bugliosi's books are top notch. Marrs' book is readable but it contains a lot of BS. James Douglas' book is unspeakably awful.
@@kegeshook1734 You confirmed the last sentence of my comment.
@@andywinger4197 You think that I'm part of a united and organized effort to convince the American public that Oswald acted alone?
Yo Mark.. what's the deal with that cheesy hat??? You have such gorgeous hair, why are you covering it up with a sorta ugly hat?
Take your nice new hat off indoors.
Have you spoken to Robert Kennedy Jnr who in TH-cam interviews names the CIA operatives and the shooters involved in the JFK assassination ?
I can’t get past the limo being gutted.
I would love to read JFKs speech. Would loved to know what his speech said. Is there copies of his speech. Anybody know.
The Book "Coup In Dallas" by HP Albarelli, Jr., et al
So many books so little Truth.
It's common to talk about how popular JFK was and how he provided so-called "hope", but I wonder how popular Kennedy really was given that he split the popular vote with Nixon almost perfectly 50/50. And Kennedy's slight advantage was quite possibly the result of election "fortification" in one city, Chicago. Kennedy may have been popular only with the side that thinks they are the only side that matters - the left.
If Kennedy were here to run in '24 ... The left would call him a racist white supremacists conservative Christian. He would not fit the democrat party of today
Dan Rather was the beginning of all the conspiracy theories starting with his getting hold of the Zapruder tapes.
Dan “I’d Rather not”.
3:11 "very violent 1970's" sounds like he's getting the decades mixed up wherein he quotes events of the 60's.
9:21 The "fixing" of the election of JFK in Illinois has never been grounded in fact. Similarly Joe Kennedy wasn't a bootlegger. The allegations were never proven in fact. It simply makes good propaganda by Kennedy's detractors.
He starts talking about the violent 70's and begins to describe events occurring in the 60's?