I totally disagree with your tier list. Adepts and marines the same tier? Mothership A tier??? Archon A tier??? Helion A tier??? Oracle S tier?? Banshee rated above Battlecruiser? Mutalisk worse than Voidrays?? Zealot S tier??? I don't know about any of this.
yep, d1 zerg min maxing everything and sweating my nuts off, and d2 protoss. but the difference is on protoss im floating at least 2k resources and dont know any build orders with half the apm of zerg. sad to see.
sentry should be higher, its a cheap unit that completely changes the fight, and can save you from an all in especially after energy recharge was added, theres just no way its B, also viking should be above void ray, viking is only 2 supply and still insanely good at its job, also how in the world is lib in B??? its also 2 supply and insanely strong in good hands. i agree that broodlords arent that impressive but they definitely arent that low.
@NeuroZerg That's true but the Cyclone just isn't a unit that can do anything in all match ups, it only works against Terran in the Early game, against Zerg if gou play Mech and yeah, Toss just murders it
Not 1 adept is better than 1 siege tank, but the tech, combined with everything. The cost, the production time, the needed tech to use them earlier, the threat they can do in a game phase, ect... Adepts are much better in these dimensions.
Tanks give you a lot more time to react. In the hands of a 6k player adepts are way scary. From a 4.5k Protoss adepts are less scary, so it’s very reliant on their skill.
Some major bias showing in this list (which is only human I guess). Adept are not S tier, they not even A tier, they are totally irrelevant after 5min. HT not S tier, neither are Immo. Id argue carrier are not S tier either but I understand why you put it there. Don't think Cyclone are S tier either. I could go on. S tier by definition should be a very small list of the most elite, cost effective, multipurpose units in the game but in your list its the most populated tier (you've got half the toss roster in there). Kind of undermines the concept of S tier.
Yeah a lot of people don’t like a big S tier for tier lists, good to note for future ones. Also Adepts in particular are way worse for casual players with slower mechanics so they aren’t scary if you aren’t following a Zest or Hero build to get early damage-but a high GM Protoss using adepts is deadly.
I think the Hydra is S tier, it's got tremendous DPS, its not that expensive, has a dash ability now, plus its good against virtually any protoss ground unit. Zealots, stalkers, immortals all terrible against hydras.
Notice, all Z players cry about how sh ite Z is now, ever since they nerfed banelings. ''waaaaa I can't kill 16 probes with 2 units, waaaaaaa Z shi te''
Well... that was weird.
we luv ya neuro
All other races said drone is op like the larva were infinite
I like having a nydus bound to a hot key that I shoot swarm hosts out with. My viper replens energy off the nydus
Surely queen is in an S++ tier on its own?
Bro on drugs. Half the units are in S tier lolllll
Sad Patchtime for Zerg >.
Putting anything from Zerg in S Tier is just plain incorrect.
@@aaronfaster1 queen's, lings, viper and larve are the most S tier units in the game.
I totally disagree with your tier list. Adepts and marines the same tier? Mothership A tier??? Archon A tier??? Helion A tier??? Oracle S tier?? Banshee rated above Battlecruiser? Mutalisk worse than Voidrays?? Zealot S tier??? I don't know about any of this.
Its from a zerg perspective.
It's from Sarah Kerrigan's perspective right after her wing got chopped by Zeratul and she called for nerfs.
yeah its a heavily biased list, but still a fun video and just his opinion
@@brunob4566 opinion? No, this is scientific data collected from the Neural Network.
Oracle is definitely S tier
Based on your tier list.. I feel I need to start learn protoss. xD If I used to be main zerg.
It's a lot easier for low level players.
That's what I did a month ago, just to learn an offrace. My toss peak is higher than my Zerg peak 😂
yep, d1 zerg min maxing everything and sweating my nuts off, and d2 protoss. but the difference is on protoss im floating at least 2k resources and dont know any build orders with half the apm of zerg. sad to see.
I don't understand the swarm host hate it's my go-to against mech lol
Hots era swarmhost was so strong in all matchups that it feels relatively way worse than it used to be.
sentry should be higher, its a cheap unit that completely changes the fight, and can save you from an all in especially after energy recharge was added, theres just no way its B, also viking should be above void ray, viking is only 2 supply and still insanely good at its job, also how in the world is lib in B??? its also 2 supply and insanely strong in good hands. i agree that broodlords arent that impressive but they definitely arent that low.
Mothership S?
Cyclone S tier?
My brother in Christ what???
After playing the patch more I’d probably bump it to A tier, just feels hella strong when they go 2 base 3 factory and all-in
@NeuroZerg That's true but the Cyclone just isn't a unit that can do anything in all match ups, it only works against Terran in the Early game, against Zerg if gou play Mech and yeah, Toss just murders it
I mean the locusts DESTROY when they get to the shootin but I guess swarm hosts are bad so 🫠
i agree zerg is pure garbanzo i play a P player and lost and he says this is absurd i play really bad and win i deserve to lose zerg race is trash
one neurone
The larva is better than broodlords , infestors and swarmhost. I aprobe this tier list.
How tf an adept is better than a siege tank. I usually learn a lot from you but list man... so weird
Not 1 adept is better than 1 siege tank, but the tech, combined with everything. The cost, the production time, the needed tech to use them earlier, the threat they can do in a game phase, ect... Adepts are much better in these dimensions.
@randomhuman4405 siege tanks are used in all the matches in all stages. Adept is a situational Early game unit
Tanks give you a lot more time to react. In the hands of a 6k player adepts are way scary. From a 4.5k Protoss adepts are less scary, so it’s very reliant on their skill.
2024? It's 2025 but wow to all of the S at the start.
I think it was recorded in 2024
Zergs. 😂😂😂😂😂 need to creep spread inject. Why do that to yourself? Just play airtoss. Profit.
Toss: 6 S-tier units.
Zerg: 3 S-tier units. And one of them is zerglings.
Meanwhile toss still whine about every game they lose.
Toss units are more expensive though, so that’s a factor.
waaaay too many s tier units, adept and cyclone, no way. Also scvs and drones suck compared to probes, especially the drone.
Drones rock, I’d probably bump cyclone down a tier after playing this patch more. Adepts are absolutely S tier vs Zerg in the hands of a pro.
The only zerg unit in S must be the lurker the others are just trsh
Bane, Viper, Infestor, Queen and Ling
zerg sucks now lol endgame is trash
Some major bias showing in this list (which is only human I guess).
Adept are not S tier, they not even A tier, they are totally irrelevant after 5min. HT not S tier, neither are Immo. Id argue carrier are not S tier either but I understand why you put it there. Don't think Cyclone are S tier either. I could go on.
S tier by definition should be a very small list of the most elite, cost effective, multipurpose units in the game but in your list its the most populated tier (you've got half the toss roster in there). Kind of undermines the concept of S tier.
Yeah a lot of people don’t like a big S tier for tier lists, good to note for future ones. Also Adepts in particular are way worse for casual players with slower mechanics so they aren’t scary if you aren’t following a Zest or Hero build to get early damage-but a high GM Protoss using adepts is deadly.
I really think that protoss units are glass cannon right now, I wouldn't put them that high imo
This might be the stupidest thing ever said in the history of the Internet.
@@aaronfaster1 i dont accept commentaries from terran players sorry
also from diamond players
Confirmation bias can be very sexy!
Just Masters+ or just specifically exempting diamond?
Protoss is not the most powerful race, especially not by such a degree dominating S tier.
I think the Hydra is S tier, it's got tremendous DPS, its not that expensive, has a dash ability now, plus its good against virtually any protoss ground unit. Zealots, stalkers, immortals all terrible against hydras.
absolutely not
haha you are so biased but who can blame you
Absolutely.
Notice, all Z players cry about how sh ite Z is now, ever since they nerfed banelings. ''waaaaa I can't kill 16 probes with 2 units, waaaaaaa Z shi te''