Helldivers 2 - 500 KG and Orbital Precision Are Not Overrated, You Simply Need to Force the Hit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video I will break down how to manipulate Bile Titans to reliably one shot them with both the 500 KG and the Orbital Precision Strike. These stratagems have a reputation for packing a smaller than expected area of effect, and this is absolutely the case. You must hit your target to achieve full affect. I will show you how to guarantee the hit.
00:00 Intro
01:30 Clearing the Way
02:35 Orbital Precision
03:24 500 KG
04:37 Helldiver 9 Demo
05:40 Outro
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Clearly you just had a better gamer chair than those Titans. Try it with an office chair.
Folding chair
😅😂
I’ll take a good office chair any day over a gaming chair.
@@ultimor1183 real
Wait you guys have chairs?
Orbital precision strike is so underrated...its in my loadout 100% against bugs
and the cooldown is simply BEAUTIFUL
What happens when you have the inaccurate orbital effect on? It killed the host of a server once and he threw a tantrum then kicked me
@@mist12345678910 yeah that off course is the only time where it's not in the loadout.all in on eagles when the modifiers are not in favor for orbitals.only reliable orbital would be the rail cannon strike.
@@lyonidus3073 yep it's always ready to go.the high usage is awesome
@@lyonidus3073 yep the cooldown is realy nice and always rdy
Force the hit. Finally someone said it. 500kg is perfectly balanced it doesn’t need a buff. When a BT is about 30 meters away, throw the 500 at your feet and run. By the time the 3 seconds is up the BT will be standing right over where you called in the 500. If there is complex stratagem plotting and the cooldown is 5 seconds, then do the same thing but when the BT is 50m away.
Yup, I made sure to be deliberate in using that language. You have to make the thing happen, not just hope it happens.
Do you play D9? You dont have enough control of the battlefields to 'force' the hit all the time or even the majority of the time
Yes, you can do it, but thinking its just that easy is silly when theres 5 other chargers and 30 hunters out there.
@@skylarc6063 D9 Bugdiver, Yes you can force the hit. You have stun grenades, use it for chauf and chargers. Out of all the thing that's wrong with the game, the stratagems are functional imo.
@@doitlive9214 The stun grenades are from the first of the $10 equipment packs, many folks do not have them yet. I look forward to eventually getting them, but they aren't a solution for everyone when they're locked behind a lot of grinding or $10.
There’s something to be said for working your way towards not having to stick to exact formulaic distances, and just practicing on 7 through 9 and getting a feel for it. That way you can predict titans’ movements and strike them accurately with Precision and 500kg at any time, varying your timing and distance according to instinct even while allowing for a call-in time modifier. To do that in the most chaotic conditions at 9, you really just have to train it into a reflex.
The thing about these two is that they heavily damage or even kill the big boys, but then ALSO still can damage and kill the enemies around them. all with the reasonable cooldowns.
The cool downs is the best part!
500kg AOE is so small unless you're running stun nades ur better off rearming XD
Also, you don't throw 500s 'under' the titan, but sliightly behind him so he blocks the bomb trajectory for a direct. They're tall, not huge.
I tend to try every time to go between his legs to force him to stop but i didn't knew it was working better if you go to the right leg , thanks for the tips helldiver !
This guy knows what he's talking about
I never even thought of a term for it, but "matadoring" is perfect!
My technique is a little different though
Timing and spacing is important, but the key is running through his legs and making him turn 90°. His slow lumbering movement makes the strike or 500kg hit everytime. I keep an eye on the timer watching it go down to zero. When it says "impact" thats the cue to dive. You'd be surprised how close you can be and survive the blast.
bruh, i'm sharing this video with everyone who will watch it and i hope your channel blows up cuz this information is a complete gamechanger for bug players
This video did well and I am working on more. Not a big fan of just playing a round and talking over it so takes me some time to put out new ones. Hope to have another out soon but check out my reinforcement guide as well.
Drauul, this is excellent work. Your discussion was clean, clear, and concise. Thank you.
This!!! This is what I’ve needed and haven’t seen yet. You gained a 👍 and I subscribed . I’ve been using eats but will practice this for sure. 😊
Thank you so much. Glad to help.
This is a guy who pay attention and puts in the effort to learn how it works. Hell yea dude im gonna learn this. Thank you. Its quite clear the devs are def sticklers with detail and function. Love it
Saying that the 500kg and precision strike don't one shot bile titans has gotta be one of the biggest self reported skill issues I've ever heard of
🤣🤣🤣
500kg can sometimes be a perfect line up and it won't kill.(or the inverse you fucked it up but it still kills)
Orbital precision tho idk. Every time I've seen one hit, it has always killed.
500kg is even able to kill multiple at once...
If they are stacked up and the 500 Hits directly besides them.
My team uses the 500 because of its versatility. It's a good mob and heavy clear with reasonable cooldown
Ive had precision hit a little too far on the back instead of the head and not kill. But usually if it domes it will kill.
I’ve had the 500kg literally land on a bile titan and it survived. They doesn’t usually survive direct hits but every once in awhile they do.
Thank you for sharing. First of it's kind that I could find. Very informative!!!
Nicely done. This was helpful. I love packing the precision orbital because it cools down so dang fast - now I can use it better 🍻
After watching this vid, I gotta say thanks, really helped me realize how much these stratagems are useful. Never rocked the KG or precision before, until now👍🏼
its really nice to see you finally receiving the amount of views that you deserve!! 😄
I've been practicing this strategy. Works great on Chargers.
Yes, especially when running stun grenades
I do this all the time. Call in a 500kg then chuck a stun. Can only imagine what the chargers think. 😅
Great work. I love the Orbital Precision strike
Thanks for the tip diver! Great work
Thanks for the tip ! I didn't know that orbital precision strike could OS them. I use orbital railgun for ease of use, but it can be less consistant at one shoting. I'll try using precision strike next time i boot up the game, and see how i perform against them.
Yes, once you get good with these, railcannon feels like a wasted slot since it doesn't do any residual damage or have any other uses. Orbital and 500 can both take out research buildings, detectors, and spore spewers, which railcannon cannot.
@@DrauulGaming agreed but the rail cannon will target and take down spore spewers just so you know
@@Jnd_0247Spore Spewers can be destroyed by your primary weapon…
Railcannon usually doesn't one shot but it's always nearly dead if not dead. Chips some armour off for the team to finish off with even just primaries.
This is really cool. Thanks man!
Hey thx dude, this is one of the most helpful vids
I definitely will try your suggestion, looks efficient, I personally like to use Q Cannon and than Rail.
Great video. Thanks!
Really great guide, thank you!
Great video!
Thank you for showing the whole video from drop to titan to prove its not edited, take my 👍!
Awesome!!! Thanks for the lesson :)
This is amazing, thank you
Thanks for watching
Good info. I've got to try this!
If they ever fix the damned crashing since the last update I'll be happy to try this out. Good explanation.
Just a quick spanish lesson the matador "torea" (I think "bullys" is the most literal english translations) which is taunting, so in the means that we would use the term, we could "torear" the bile titan, as in a verb, rather than "matador" the bile titan. Ohterwise this is an awesome vid, keep 'em coming!!
Cool tip and thanks for the good example
I just started using the 500 and I love it.
Honestly the egle is kinda peak
For bile titans, i STRONGLY recommend staying by their LEFT (your right, if you're looking right at them) leg if the bile sack is broken! It baits out the long stomping attack animation, and can give a 500kg more than ample time to land if you toss it either right before or right as the attack starts. For the orbital precision strike, you need to toss it a bit before and THEN bait out the attack by it, and for that you probably do want to do what was said in this video and kite under their legs while baiting out the attack
I do this same strat but with a jump pack. Love flying away as the explosion sends the bile crumbling down
Thank you diver! That helps a lot
I hope they add more high skill strategems like these. It's so satisfying when you land the hit.
Thank you for sharing your technique! +1 Subscriber
And now you've matadored my thumb to the subscribe button.
Very nice!
Saw a video like this, but the dude's strat was to run under the titan, drop the stratagem underneath and come out behind his back. Yeah, it forces the enormously long 180 spin and a 100% reliable hit, but it generally doesn't work if a horde is there.
"Just kill all the other bugs first 4head. What? Yes, I play on haz 4, how did you know?"
Good tip
I found this out today accidentally on purpose and it worked. Funny how this video popped up after
New video I'm showing people when they say 500 is useless against titans, nice work.
On a side note orbital precision strike 500kg and flamethrower is absolutely insane on bugs eosecially now that fire works in teams
Just a reminder, that baiting Titan’s melee attack is a bit dangerous for non-host players because of latency.
subbing cause you're the first fellow helldiver i've seen not call the 500kg shit. most ppl are just bad and need to get gud
Who is claiming these stratagems don’t kill Bile Titans? I’ve never heard a single person make that claim.
sometimes even direct hits won't one shot them, and I'm not entirely sure why. They definitely can do it, of course.
Even when they don't, though, popping the sack with your primary or support is usually enough afterwards
Direct hits definitely kill. I think when it doesn’t kill might be a syncing issue. Someone made a montage video early on showing 5 minutes of precision hits 1 shooting a BT. Supposedly it does the highest damage and can kill a walker if you throw a rocket pod afterwards
mad skills im about to try this next bug major order run.
Good stuff, The variable is the teammates changing the attack pattern. Work together💪
500KG can also destroy Automaton detector towers. Super useful.
Nice to know, usually I was just trying to run behind them so they stay in place trying to turn around.
Damn dude I can't even imagine getting that good with precision.im always too panicked to be that good at aiming lol Nice job.
Needed this, didn’t realize how to bait them. Normally I just run like hell. My buddy is better at it but didn’t have tips for it so I usually run crowd control
I use PS and eagle strike always because I use stuns and love one hitting heavy enemy's. Thanks for the great tips. My third is mission specific and then I have my support weapon.
I typically have the rail cannon for titans because of it's unlimited uses but didn't know the OPS can kill them cuz I never tried. Nice.
My very first titan kill was with an orbital precision strike. Hands down one of the best throws I've ever had. The thing had no idea I was there and I threw it from about 40-50 meters
It's important to note that the bile titan gets dmg reduction during its spit, so you do need to force a melee attack or use explosives on its soft underbelly to remove its ability to spit attack.
god thank you for making this, you saved me having to do it.
Ty for video
thanks for the tipe dude didnt know you could do that to biles
You can also use when the bile titans do the spit attack to force the hit. If you drop the strat just a little bit in front of them when they spit. The spit will end with them coming foward slightly which results in the 500 kg landing directly under them for the perfect kill.
Bite titans gain damage resistance when in their vomiting state, apparently. So it might be why people notice inconsistencies
Nice work really…you just got a new sub 👍+1…thanks for sharing it will reflect in you next war bond 💸
You can also increase the damage and accuracy of your stratagems by T-posing. You can also stop Eagle-1 from hitting you by avoiding the temptation of calling in an airstrike at the pelican right before extracting
I love this game. Its brings me back to left4dead days, same level of fun. I also bring both and most often i drop it under me feat after i get enemys attention..
Jetpack, orbital precision strike, eagle cluster bomb, and quasar cannon are great against bugs. I have been running it recently and it is very good.
You’ve seen good results from the cluster bomb?😅😅 I rank that one with the mortar sentry and arc thrower in the “This guy will kill more friendlies than bugs” category lmao
All weapons and tactics are worth it when it comes to freedom, but I mean you also need awareness of their positions and god forbid, I can’t believe I’m saying this but you actually, crazy enough, need to talk to your team and let them know where you’re throwing it.
Thank you for explaining this. I appreciate any and all info for this game as a ps5 player. Getting rid of ps5 at sometime though. Question: will the orbital stick to the titan if I throw it directly on it?
It will not stick.
Clean 😎🤘
nice one. been kinda doing that with orbit precision strike and killing titans.. i dun use 500kg but using similar tactics with regular airstrikes..
Thanks for sharing. Does it work on like resupply pod?
This is hella impressive. I am way too panicky to pull this off, but I shared it with my friend ReeseTheKraken - this strat is right up his alley! This move makes you the
Haha, I love doing it. You'll always catch me running toward the bile titans so I can pull these moves off in mission.
Both stratagems are a solid pick for anti tank shenanigans. I generally run the 500kg with a gas strike, since the eagle is my anti tank and the gas is my horde clear. If you want a different eagle, say the airstrike, 500kg becomes less efficient and it’s better to replace it with the OPS. Both do the same thing so it’s just up to preference. I prefer the OPS for being more independent from other stratagems, but the two uses of the eagle bomb are a pretty nice feature
Yes, I generally hate running more than 1 eagle due to the added micro management. You get into situations where you don't have what you need when you need it.
While they both do the same thing, OPS is a bit less reliable as direct hit on the back of the titan will not kill it (same for 500 kg but it comes down from much better angle) so i usually try to land OPS a bit to the side of the titan, like a meter or two away
Up next. Drauul shows us how to make a Spewgertan. It's a spewer stuffed into a charger stuffed into a bile titan with rosemary and chives.
I always thought precision’s strike is like fall on the exact location it was call in but then i learn that it have auto target system like the orbital railcanon just a smaller radius. Instantly make it the best stratagem.
I only see one problem here.
I always try to bait a stomp attack where he stands still for like 5 seconds while stomping around him and then throw the 500kg dead center below him.
But often it gets dropped from am angle where it lands under it. Because it doesn't come down straight from above, it's shotbout diagonally from the eagle dropping it. So while I know direct hits 1 hit kill it, I often don't get direct hits even when he was standing still on top of the steategem beacon.
But I didn't know the precision strike can straight up one shot it, so very nice info right there.
Any tips on how to get the 500kg to consistently hit it directly instead of landing right under it?
As I said, even when the beacon is going through tge thing, so it stands on it perfectly, the actual bomb often gets shot below is as ot comes down diagonally, not straight from above like the precision strike.
Thx.
I think it’s the placement sometimes that I miscalculated
I usually just call it "kiting", like back from MMO / WoW days. It's so easy to Precision Titans. People always tell my nice shot for them, but it really just takes practice on how to manipulate them around terrain, and timing it for the call-in time.
May I just say the EAT and jet pack combo is one of my favorites in game. Two eats straight to an open mouth of a bile titan and it’s dead.
ty, my main strat was the 22m range that they spit at, but it doesn't work if the sac is shot out, and the range seems inconsistent. ty for the strat, liberty speed your step
Hey, for the 500kg you did end up taking damage. Your shield gen covered whatever damage the 500kg would’ve done as it dissipated. Any clarification on how to stay near it without taking damage?
one thing to know is the 500kg will always come at an angle from behind you when you throw it. Knowing that makes it a lot easier to not hit terrain
Better tip is have the 500kg aim for the legs maybe. As centre body explosions still don’t always one shot, or front and back sometimes too
"cookie-jar bait" is terminology I'm going to have to use more often
His reach is sus af
Ppl really do sleep on precision strike just because it's the 1st strategem you get. The explosiveness is strong enough to clear even a pair of bile if you land it right between 2 of them, and the short cooldown makes it so you dont feel too hampered missing or just using it for a small horde. Only real downsides compared to railcannon is it's reliability (especially on orbital scatter) but with practice it's deadly for dealing with biles
I tend to prefer 500s for simplicity, have to be less accurate with them, but can consistently oneshot with either. I use ops when I want to run another eagle.
It's important to make sure the Titan is aggro'ed on you. A lot of the times these strategems miss is because the Titan is chasing a teammate that just won't stop running.
The best bio titan killing tool on your belt is the resupply if you can land it.
Dancing around is probably the hardest thing to do for these kinds of maneuvers, especially when there are a few charges around you (and chaffs).
But yes, I have landed precisions on Titans more so than KGs. The success rate is just not that high.
bro there is no doubt with PS. bit 500k dng hard to pull off. effective but hrd to place right
As with most things in this game, it's not the tool, it's the user.
You said it man. It’s like every time a gun is nerfed or they introduce a new one and 70% of commenters call it “trash.” Everyone wants a weapon that makes the game easy.
@@paulethier9765 yeah like the Eruptor was straight broken. It's only weak point is that it could kill you at close range. Any weapon with the ability to kill mass hordes and fabs/bug holes needs a heavier downside than that.
Especially when its competitors for the primary slot include the liberator
@@paulethier9765 OhDough did a entire video on balance in this game. It's a massive shitshow of a issue, make no mistake.
So the Titan always leads with its right claw, never it's left?
Is that true for de-sacked Titans as well?
Yes. And de-sacked titans never spit 😉
Olé! 🦸
I stopped using the precision strike because even after i distracted the bile titan to stay in place, the precision airstrike would miss the marker by more than 10 meters and do nothing.
Huh, I definitely watched a bile titan survive a direct hit from an orbital precision and stopped bringing it, but… Maybe it was lag or a bug or something, cause it clearly works just fine. i’ll give it another shot
I like how your saying "aim your throws you fools" without saying it. feels like the 90s with everyone trying to fire pistols sideways gangster style then complain the gun is shit because they didn't hit anything all over again 😂
been using the 500 a lot since I've got 2 that I can call down within a few seconds of each other and the bile titans don't stand a chance. I usually make them spit at me which completely stops them in their tracks as my 500 comes down on top of them. I think the need a better visual indicator for allies as I still see yo many people continue to run straight into orbital and eagle strike. Maybe show an AOE indicator around the are for players to know if if their in the AOE.
Great tip thanks man
never underestimate the ability of diving prone to save you from explosions (except cluster bombs and airburst rockets, you're still boned regardless)
Just to be clear, you do NOT need the 500kg to hit the Bile Titan to one shot it. It DOES however need to land (if not directly, then very close to) under it in order to one shot.
Do Bile Titans always attack with the front right leg????
They either do that or they do the dance. As long as you hang out with the left leg you are golden.
I will say, there are plenty of times I've landed a 500kg on a titan and hes still standing. Usually opens up the armor and a nade gets it done but not always a 1 hit even if you land the shot.