That was a very informative video, but when mapping many controls on a third party vst to Komplete Kontrol, how do you keep track with what each Komplete Kontrol knob is mapped to? Thanks
Serum doesn't appear in my Komplete Kontrol instrument list. Only the NI plug-ins do. How to get it to work with Komplete? Tried to Google but no results. Huuge thanks to anyone answering!
What about aftertouch and touch strips? I noticed that right clicking on a parameter gives you the option of Midi Learn and you can assign it on aftertouch or touch strip but the problem is that you can't assign them separately. When I move the touch strip all the parameters move together.
Great vids Matt, thanks for all the tips! I have no idea how to populate my custom VST list like yours is. When you click on the little person icon in KK I see you have a whole list that pops up. How do I add VSTs to that list? I can't even get my browser to highlight the person icon when using the keyboard controls??
at 2:00 you use the keyboard to browse to the person icon. I'm not able to do that. Serum is the plugin in particular I am really trying to get working with this.
Thanks for this. I went looking for something else (how to map the CC# from something like an XY controller onto my S24) and now have a bunch more possibilities to learn thanks to your inspiration. Still, do you have an idea how to simply give them a generic CC# (like 20 and 21) so I can have them ready in tools that don't map quite as well?
Thanks this is great! One question though - do you (or anyone following the video) know how to change the name of a Page? I can’t seem to be able to do it and the manual explains everything else but this… Thanks in advance!
Is it now possible to record arps and skills directly in to the track without to record only the root note, or must i still make a second midi track in cubase?
Hey Matt, if I get the s25 version would I be able to just take that somewhere to and make a beat inside maschine software? The studio is huge and I have to plug it in. Wait do you have to plug this keyboard in??
+Jack Spade s25 will not replace a Maschine in any way. There are a few things that the S-series will do to add to Maschine's usabilty (such as focusing on the Sampler's parameters when highlighted and basic transport control) but the experience will in no way serve to create a more "mobile Maschine" option
+Jack Spade yes, but the keyboard will too if you are focused on say a Kick drum on Pad 1. You were talking about using an s25 instead of the Studio controller, correct?
Oh I see what u mean, I read that wrong. I'm going with the push for now since I'm Ableton crazy at the moment, but I'm eyeing that s49 I'll get it soon enough too.
+Dr. Gemstone Yes for Kontakt but no for other VSTs. You have to do that scripting inside of the Kontakt instrument, which isn't all that simple unless you know how to create scripts. Check out this video to use a DAW to get what you want out of the light guide: th-cam.com/video/y7iCYS0-p-U/w-d-xo.html
Nice video, man, thanks! At 4:06 aprox you add a note saying that custom mapping will stay the same for every other preset from that synth. So, question: how that works? can i still browse presets from the keyboard? or if i load them from the keyboard i would be loading the previous version that has all the parameters mixed up? thanks again!
+Christian Ale In this setup, you would create the custom mapping template, and then use the mouse to change through the presets within the instrument GUI without affecting that mapping. If Serum were created with the NKS format, this would be a moot point as you could use the keyboard and KKS browser for the presets. I'm hoping Xfer Records develops an NKS version of Serum!
Hi! is there a way to add an icon/image to your user library plugins or sample libraries? The stock grey image on them makes them difficult to sort through since they all look alike. Thanks!
Just one simple question. Can I use those 8 knobs to control Waves plugins? In Cubase 8 I have Remote Control Editor. So if KK can work as a regular midi controller it will be able to control plugins. I hope without need to use Komplete kontrol souftware.
+Matt Cellitti Thanks, Matt. Can I use two keyboards? I want to put s25 on the table while 61 keys midi keabord stands to the left. Is there any problem with midi channel or something? I'm gonna use two different usb cables or one usb port with usb hub for two keyboards. And how about if I have separate NI products without complete? And one more: I found Komplete Kontrol isn't convinient for me. If I load Kontakt directly into instrument track in Cubase, does s25 control Kontakt with colored keys and arpeggiator? Or it works only in Konplete Kontrol software?
+Andrew Zeleno You can use multiple keyboards no problem. You need to load the Kontakt instruments inside Komplete Kontrol to take advantage of those options
Great video! I know this video is really old but I don’t understand what you mean by creating an INIT patch. It looks like somehow you made a copy of the preset that you were using and then mapped out the midi the way you wanted it. I have been looking for information about INIT patches but am not finding much pertaining to the way you’re using it. Could you explain exactly how you did that?
Hi Matt, great video. The thing I cannot find any information on is effect vst plugins. Do you know if it's possible to create custom mappings for effect vst plugins like you can with Novation Automap and load these on your DAWs channels?
HI Matt lets just say you want to work these plugins in a DAW such as Ableton. Wow, I am having all sorts of trouble. Host integration is complete but not triggering tracks, this whole idea of scenes within the tracks is confusing, and sometimes I lose the browser functions from my MK2 when attempting to use the VST plugins. Its just a mess! I'd be willing to travel to find someone who can rig my set up to simply work. Do you have any resources...thanks for this video!
Thanks for the reply. Can that name be prepresented on Kontrol where it says Page number? So in the controller you can page through, but instead of saying the page number is would say osc, lfo, env, etc
Hi Matt Cellitti - thanks again for the previous responses. My next question is, can I do custom mappings for a hardware synth? (specifically the Waldorf Blofeld)
Hey Matt. Thanks for the awesome videos. Not sure if I am doing something wrong, but I can't get Serum to load (or show up) in Komplete Kontrol. I definitely have the serum.dll file in the folder that Komplete scans form. Any help is greatly appreciated as Serum has become my go to synth of choice and seeing this video takes it to a whole different level!
Hey Matt, thanks again for these awesome tutorials. When creating custom mapping for third-party plugins... when it comes to an "on/off" parameter (such as enable arpeggiator)... how can you make the knob show "on / off" instead of a numeric value? It takes a big knob twist to turn it to "on". With the "chord mode" thing, you can see the knob is just "off/on" and not a generic numeric value.... any way to customize this? I hope you know what I mean. Thanks man!
Thanks for the tutorial, pretty interesting. I am wondering if it is possible to do such integration into any VST using FL Studio? I read there are some issues on Komplete Kontrol into FL Studio, but are these specific to the DAW integration or do they concern the VSTs also? Any knowledge is welcome there, thanks!
Hey Matt thanks for the tutorial! Is it possible to rearrange the order of the pages that have been mapped? I haven't been able to find a way for this. This would save a lot of work when you later on decide you want some controls on page 2 rather then page 10. I guess this can also be done by overriding the current mapping in page 2, but then you have to re-map these controls on page 11 because you can't choose the position of the new page. Thanks again for the great tutorial!
+MrBRKSN Yes it is unfortunate that you cannot rearrange the pages at the moment. NI is aware and hopefully intends to make this an option in a future release.
+Matt Cellitti Thanks for answering. Hope they do so. I Hope they also add a feature where you can open a 3rd party plugin with your own custom mapping as the default. Right now the only way is to save it as a preset/patch.
Thanks for sharing this! Really great to finally see someone using Serum with KKS! Quick question, is there a way to even change presets of Serum via the KK keyboard/control encoder? Thanks again !
Not easily without Xfer actually updating Serum to support the NKS format. There are incredibly tedious ways of saving and building all the presets into your user database but that would take a long time. Check the NI forum in case someone already did this tho
thanks for the reply! i kinda realised that in the mean time... someone said that you need to configure serum so that the presets change via CC messages, which is again not the best thing, since the values goes up to 256 (i think) so then you, someone gotta do another CC for the banks to cover all presets. nah. im just too lazy ! :) Having said that, personally i decided not to buy the KKS. Since im a mac user, with a 32bit Ableton Live, and KK runs only on 64bit hosts on mac (ughhhh) oh well ! - Ableton Push might be for me :)
So, if I got a Komplete Kontrol, could the sounds I make be used in FL Studio? Because this is really cool, but I want to be able to keep FL Studio as my main DAW.
considering this controller....can you assign CC to external gear as easily as you did to VSTs in this vid? if so, does the learn werk the same. and in an older video it was said that you could not customize the names of the assignments to each knob. is that possible now? this is a make or break for me. want to control hardware. thanks in advance.
Very easily, yes. I controi my DSI Pro 2 using the Komplete Kontrol all the time.You set up the CC's and the naming of parameters in the Control Editor before hand. Then you pull the USB cable, insert MIDI cable, and its a very useful controller for hardware gear.
sorry one more question. can you run the USB to your DAW, then route to the external inst [using LOGIC]. i want to control parameters on my Elektron gear. i dont think you need to go via MIDI cables. thanks for getting back to me. very helpful.
so...i got one. everything werks GREAT. except for one element. Komplete Kontrol [software] does not show up in Logic X. i looked in the AU folder and i am missing the Komplete Kontrol.component file. i have one for Maschine, Reaktor etc.....not sure where to get that or install it. i believe that is the AU element of the software. i did a plugin rescan in Logic...to no avail. kinda stumped at the moment. if you have any insight that would be hugely appreciated
Hey Matt! Nice video, Love your stuff! I'm about to upgrade to 1.5 and I just watched this video (at work, so I haven't even tried this yet but anyway...), the first thing that popped in my head was, if the third party VST's already loaded their own parameters, Im assuming you just have to press 'delete to remove theirs? or is there a way to clear out all the pages at once?
+NSW1973 I noticed that I had to reload the MIDI Remote Script into the Ableton package contents again after I updated to 9.5 for some reason....maybe try that?
Kanye West loves Serum too! Unfortunately he has had some financial difficulties after purchasing 92 gold chains, $3000 t-shirts and private jets so he had to download a cracked one.
It's a real dissapointment those rotary encoders are crippled from working in plugins that are NOT inside of the KK app. They could have worked as generic midi knobs outside of KK but NI crippled that. Not impressed.
@@zombizombi i worked out that you had to hold down the shift button and press the “plugin” button…. every freaking time. I still wish i had got an arturia instead.
@@zombizombi they really need to make it so you can update the firmware so you can make it the default mode. Those knobs dont even work in kontakt unless you reach over and perform that ritual. even when you do it keeps slipping back into the other mode. Its really really irritating. It really ruins the experience. Midi controllers should always be about streaming your creative flow. This device goes in the opposite direction because some focus group on some committee wants to “encourage” users to stay in their crappy Kontrol app.
Thank you for sharing! I wish they had made the M32 like this or the A series
Great info man! Easy to follow your instructions! I'm getting the S49 in a day or so. Can't wait to try out all the Komplete sounds.
Great Vid Matt. Good quality and easy to understand and follow. Good job!
Hey Matt ~ excellent video, but how can I SAVE my custom instrument mapping so that it will apply to all presets for that given synth?
Have you figured this out already?
@@QuranLiveRecitation no :(
When I save a preset the new mapping is applied for all the presets of the Plug-in. Doesn’t it work for you?
init preset - custom map - Done
More people should be watching your videos. Very well done.
+Geoff Manchester Thanks for the kind words!
Excellent video! But how do you have the custom mapped patch/preset so that it appears in the KK browser? Thanks!
Is it possible to make an assignment template as long it’s for the same plug in?
this has to be the best cash i have ever spent on music gear i use it so much thanks heaps for the tutorial on mapping :}
Does this only work on native instrument MIDI controllers? Excellent video thank you!
That was a very informative video, but when mapping many controls on a third party vst to Komplete Kontrol, how do you keep track with what each Komplete Kontrol knob is mapped to? Thanks
You can change the names of the tabs on top and the knobs inside the tabs. Just double click on the names or empty spaces. Voila!😊
Serum doesn't appear in my Komplete Kontrol instrument list. Only the NI plug-ins do. How to get it to work with Komplete? Tried to Google but no results. Huuge thanks to anyone answering!
How to give the knobs in KK a name or change it ?
What about aftertouch and touch strips? I noticed that right clicking on a parameter gives you the option of Midi Learn and you can assign it on aftertouch or touch strip but the problem is that you can't assign them separately. When I move the touch strip all the parameters move together.
Hi! Thank you for the video. Do you know how to change our custom pages order? Drag and drop don't seem to work.
Great vids Matt, thanks for all the tips!
I have no idea how to populate my custom VST list like yours is. When you click on the little person icon in KK I see you have a whole list that pops up. How do I add VSTs to that list? I can't even get my browser to highlight the person icon when using the keyboard controls??
at 2:00 you use the keyboard to browse to the person icon. I'm not able to do that. Serum is the plugin in particular I am really trying to get working with this.
me too. finds nothing when i direct it to my vst folders
Thanks for this. I went looking for something else (how to map the CC# from something like an XY controller onto my S24) and now have a bunch more possibilities to learn thanks to your inspiration. Still, do you have an idea how to simply give them a generic CC# (like 20 and 21) so I can have them ready in tools that don't map quite as well?
Thanks this is great! One question though - do you (or anyone following the video) know how to change the name of a Page? I can’t seem to be able to do it and the manual explains everything else but this… Thanks in advance!
Is it now possible to record arps and skills directly in to the track without to record only the root note, or must i still make a second midi track in cubase?
Great vid Matt, thanks!
Hey Matt, if I get the s25 version would I be able to just take that somewhere to and make a beat inside maschine software? The studio is huge and I have to plug it in. Wait do you have to plug this keyboard in??
+Jack Spade s25 will not replace a Maschine in any way. There are a few things that the S-series will do to add to Maschine's usabilty (such as focusing on the Sampler's parameters when highlighted and basic transport control) but the experience will in no way serve to create a more "mobile Maschine" option
+Matt Cellitti focusing on the samples parameters? Doesn't Maschine do that already?
+Jack Spade yes, but the keyboard will too if you are focused on say a Kick drum on Pad 1. You were talking about using an s25 instead of the Studio controller, correct?
Oh I see what u mean, I read that wrong. I'm going with the push for now since I'm Ableton crazy at the moment, but I'm eyeing that s49 I'll get it soon enough too.
Does the pitch and midi wheel work with vsts?
Nice! Can you tailor the light guide as well for a custom Kontakt inst or non .nkr vst as well?
+Dr. Gemstone Yes for Kontakt but no for other VSTs. You have to do that scripting inside of the Kontakt instrument, which isn't all that simple unless you know how to create scripts. Check out this video to use a DAW to get what you want out of the light guide: th-cam.com/video/y7iCYS0-p-U/w-d-xo.html
+Matt Cellitti Thanks kindly, Matt.
Nice video, man, thanks!
At 4:06 aprox you add a note saying that custom mapping will stay the same for every other preset from that synth. So, question: how that works? can i still browse presets from the keyboard? or if i load them from the keyboard i would be loading the previous version that has all the parameters mixed up? thanks again!
+Christian Ale In this setup, you would create the custom mapping template, and then use the mouse to change through the presets within the instrument GUI without affecting that mapping. If Serum were created with the NKS format, this would be a moot point as you could use the keyboard and KKS browser for the presets. I'm hoping Xfer Records develops an NKS version of Serum!
Thank you :)
Hi! is there a way to add an icon/image to your user library plugins or sample libraries? The stock grey image on them makes them difficult to sort through since they all look alike. Thanks!
Just one simple question. Can I use those 8 knobs to control Waves plugins? In Cubase 8 I have Remote Control Editor. So if KK can work as a regular midi controller it will be able to control plugins. I hope without need to use Komplete kontrol souftware.
+Andrew Zeleno Of course, you can put it in MIDI mode and do that easily: th-cam.com/video/y7iCYS0-p-U/w-d-xo.html
+Matt Cellitti Thanks, Matt. Can I use two keyboards? I want to put s25 on the table while 61 keys midi keabord stands to the left. Is there any problem with midi channel or something? I'm gonna use two different usb cables or one usb port with usb hub for two keyboards.
And how about if I have separate NI products without complete?
And one more: I found Komplete Kontrol isn't convinient for me. If I load Kontakt directly into instrument track in Cubase, does s25 control Kontakt with colored keys and arpeggiator? Or it works only in Konplete Kontrol software?
+Andrew Zeleno You can use multiple keyboards no problem. You need to load the Kontakt instruments inside Komplete Kontrol to take advantage of those options
Great video! I know this video is really old but I don’t understand what you mean by creating an INIT patch. It looks like somehow you made a copy of the preset that you were using and then mapped out the midi the way you wanted it. I have been looking for information about INIT patches but am not finding much pertaining to the way you’re using it. Could you explain exactly how you did that?
Does it also work with non komplete Keyboards? Any idea?
What's the maximum number of pages you can create? Called NI and the rep didn't know this. Also can you change the page and mapping name? Thanks!
Thanks very helpful!
Hello! Tell me please how to add a plug-in to the QA, which he did not add? I do not have Nexus in the list of Plugins 1.4.1.
Does this still work on mk3 on 3rd party vst
dope vid
Hi Matt, great video. The thing I cannot find any information on is effect vst plugins.
Do you know if it's possible to create custom mappings for effect vst plugins like you can with Novation Automap and load these on your DAWs channels?
+Rene Eijzenga nope. No effects in the KK software. Only instruments. Maschine handles all of your VST effects very nicely though.
HI Matt lets just say you want to work these plugins in a DAW such as Ableton. Wow, I am having all sorts of trouble. Host integration is complete but not triggering tracks, this whole idea of scenes within the tracks is confusing, and sometimes I lose the browser functions from my MK2 when attempting to use the VST plugins. Its just a mess! I'd be willing to travel to find someone who can rig my set up to simply work. Do you have any resources...thanks for this video!
I am trying this method and it isn't working. When I mov the knob in the plugin nothing happens :-(
Is it possible to name the pages though? That's what I really want.
What if You dont have Komplete Kontrol? and just want to use it with ableton
Does anyone know if you can name the different pages such as osc, filter, env, etc?
supravista yes you can
Thanks for the reply. Can that name be prepresented on Kontrol where it says Page number? So in the controller you can page through, but instead of saying the page number is would say osc, lfo, env, etc
+supravista yes indeed
Great videos ..clear and straight to the points , question : can we rename the parameters ? (like on Novation automap) for exemple ....
Hi Matt Cellitti - thanks again for the previous responses. My next question is, can I do custom mappings for a hardware synth? (specifically the Waldorf Blofeld)
Hey Matt. Thanks for the awesome videos. Not sure if I am doing something wrong, but I can't get Serum to load (or show up) in Komplete Kontrol. I definitely have the serum.dll file in the folder that Komplete scans form. Any help is greatly appreciated as Serum has become my go to synth of choice and seeing this video takes it to a whole different level!
When you click on the little person icon in KK I see you have a whole list that pops up. How do I add VSTs to that list?
Is t possible to create a custom mapping for Maschine Studio as well ?
Hey Matt, thanks again for these awesome tutorials. When creating custom mapping for third-party plugins... when it comes to an "on/off" parameter (such as enable arpeggiator)... how can you make the knob show "on / off" instead of a numeric value? It takes a big knob twist to turn it to "on". With the "chord mode" thing, you can see the knob is just "off/on" and not a generic numeric value.... any way to customize this? I hope you know what I mean. Thanks man!
thx again. great video. just on the of chance, you don't have a load of pre mapped 3rd party files do you? i.e serum, omni etc? will buy.
James P thanks. I don’t but a gentleman in the NI forums has already done this and sells them for a reasonable price
Thanks for the tutorial, pretty interesting. I am wondering if it is possible to do such integration into any VST using FL Studio? I read there are some issues on Komplete Kontrol into FL Studio, but are these specific to the DAW integration or do they concern the VSTs also? Any knowledge is welcome there, thanks!
Hey Matt thanks for the tutorial!
Is it possible to rearrange the order of the pages that have been mapped? I haven't been able to find a way for this. This would save a lot of work when you later on decide you want some controls on page 2 rather then page 10. I guess this can also be done by overriding the current mapping in page 2, but then you have to re-map these controls on page 11 because you can't choose the position of the new page.
Thanks again for the great tutorial!
+MrBRKSN Yes it is unfortunate that you cannot rearrange the pages at the moment. NI is aware and hopefully intends to make this an option in a future release.
+Matt Cellitti Thanks for answering. Hope they do so. I Hope they also add a feature where you can open a 3rd party plugin with your own custom mapping as the default. Right now the only way is to save it as a preset/patch.
Thanks for sharing this! Really great to finally see someone using Serum with KKS! Quick question, is there a way to even change presets of Serum via the KK keyboard/control encoder? Thanks again !
Not easily without Xfer actually updating Serum to support the NKS format. There are incredibly tedious ways of saving and building all the presets into your user database but that would take a long time. Check the NI forum in case someone already did this tho
thanks for the reply! i kinda realised that in the mean time... someone said that you need to configure serum so that the presets change via CC messages, which is again not the best thing, since the values goes up to 256 (i think) so then you, someone gotta do another CC for the banks to cover all presets. nah. im just too lazy ! :) Having said that, personally i decided not to buy the KKS. Since im a mac user, with a 32bit Ableton Live, and KK runs only on 64bit hosts on mac (ughhhh) oh well ! - Ableton Push might be for me :)
So, if I got a Komplete Kontrol, could the sounds I make be used in FL Studio? Because this is really cool, but I want to be able to keep FL Studio as my main DAW.
+Dane Tabor Yes of course
considering this controller....can you assign CC to external gear as easily as you did to VSTs in this vid?
if so, does the learn werk the same.
and in an older video it was said that you could not customize the names of the assignments to each knob. is that possible now?
this is a make or break for me. want to control hardware.
thanks in advance.
Very easily, yes. I controi my DSI Pro 2 using the Komplete Kontrol all the time.You set up the CC's and the naming of parameters in the Control Editor before hand. Then you pull the USB cable, insert MIDI cable, and its a very useful controller for hardware gear.
sorry one more question.
can you run the USB to your DAW, then route to the external inst [using LOGIC]. i want to control parameters on my Elektron gear. i dont think you need to go via MIDI cables.
thanks for getting back to me.
very helpful.
TRaddcliff Yes - thats easier actually. The keyboard just doesnt transmit MIDI to external gear via the midi cable unless the USB plug is out.
well that clinches is. thanks Matt.
gonna pick one up tomorrow!
so...i got one. everything werks GREAT. except for one element. Komplete Kontrol [software] does not show up in Logic X. i looked in the AU folder and i am missing the Komplete Kontrol.component file. i have one for Maschine, Reaktor etc.....not sure where to get that or install it. i believe that is the AU element of the software. i did a plugin rescan in Logic...to no avail. kinda stumped at the moment.
if you have any insight that would be hugely appreciated
Nice video! What is the track playing in the back for the first 30 seconds?
+sybrenbeneder Just a track I've been working on, hope to finish soon.
+Matt Cellitti sounds epic already! Keep up the great work!
Thanks
Is this valid for other midi controllers?
Hey Matt! Nice video, Love your stuff! I'm about to upgrade to 1.5 and I just watched this video (at work, so I haven't even tried this yet but anyway...), the first thing that popped in my head was, if the third party VST's already loaded their own parameters, Im assuming you just have to press 'delete to remove theirs? or is there a way to clear out all the pages at once?
+d2 Media there's an "x" to clear out each page at a time.
Awesome! Thanks!
im sure we all wanted to remap serum too
Thank you!
Can't get it to work in Ableton 9.5 though!
+NSW1973 I noticed that I had to reload the MIDI Remote Script into the Ableton package contents again after I updated to 9.5 for some reason....maybe try that?
Hello from cold Central Maine, Bill
Awesome!
Can you custom name the pages?
+DreamsStudio1 Not at the moment, no. Hopefully it will be added. I know I have requested it.
Is the 3rd party support VST only?
+Arturs Kozlovskis VST and AU
any vst on earth can be mapped?
Sarah Johns AU and VST.
THANK YOU
A tutorial connecting this to PRO TOOLS would be great right about now 🙄
Ok I didn't know you can load 3rd party plugin in komplete kontrol
Kanye West loves Serum too! Unfortunately he has had some financial difficulties after purchasing 92 gold chains, $3000 t-shirts and private jets so he had to download a cracked one.
🌚🖤🎶
Yo
everything before 3:17 is useless
It's a real dissapointment those rotary encoders are crippled from working in plugins that are NOT inside of the KK app. They could have worked as generic midi knobs outside of KK but NI crippled that. Not impressed.
I think that's what the midi button is for, it will allow you to use it like a dumb midi controller at any moment and then switch back
@@zombizombi i worked out that you had to hold down the shift button and press the “plugin” button…. every freaking time. I still wish i had got an arturia instead.
@@zombizombi they really need to make it so you can update the firmware so you can make it the default mode. Those knobs dont even work in kontakt unless you reach over and perform that ritual. even when you do it keeps slipping back into the other mode. Its really really irritating. It really ruins the experience. Midi controllers should always be about streaming your creative flow. This device goes in the opposite direction because some focus group on some committee wants to “encourage” users to stay in their crappy Kontrol app.
Yeh. This shit is triffling