Yeah the Catholics worship and inclusion of the lgbtq satan worshipping community is just what Chesterton would love! Don’t forget about all the priest touching little kids! Woooheeee.
As an Orthodox Christian, the main reason I can continue to admire Chesterton, a Catholic, is that everything that he says about the Catholic Church I generally find true about the Orthodox Church. Almost everything he says, is like, check, check, check, check. and I say this, not in any triumphalistic way, but having seen the very worst of the Church hierarchy and still having to believe.
I am Catholic, and always have been. Why? I am still not sure. However, I do believe that what maintains my Catholicness is my continued doubt of the Church and its intentions. I believe that only through discourse and doubt can my faith be strengthened. Thus, I believe it is necessary to ask this: How can the Catholic Church of 2000 years be right when it deceives its people, a diverse and universal people, by covering up child molestation, supporting those in the past who have used the Church for their factions' endeavors of greed and glory, and have even held, and still hold, land and secrets when there is supposedly no class and distinction between the Church and the people? With all the corruption and the institution of covering up, how can the Catholic Church still be right? Why shouldn't I leave when the Catholic Church when it has lost its face? Why does the Catholic Church claim to follow Jesus' teachings, especially about the innocence of children, when it has taken such from so many?
1.) If you look deeper you'll find that it's a certain group that has infiltrated the Church that is responsible for it. 2.) The statistics of that sick stuff happening are higher in secular organizations that work with kids than in the Church. 3.) Don't let Catholics keep you from being Catholic. The Church very clearly condemns that.
I'd recommend reading more Chesterton, my friend. He wrote thousands of essays, and doctrine appears more than you might think. Thank you for your comment!
I can read an intelligent and contemplative man like Chesterton, be captivated by his prose, as I am with C.S. Lewis, but still be none the wiser as to why I should believe the claims. Is there any reason to think the supernatural exists or ever could exist?
I love your question. I don't have an answer for you. I think life reveals the answer to us each individually. Ideally, we would have a conversation about it over coffee or a beer.
Assuming you have read orthodoxy, youd be aware that a man is more sane when is is a mystic and even more so as a Catholic. The question of "proving" the supernatural does not make sense. What do you mean by proof? Are you expecting some kind of empirical evidence for God's existence? I think the very question is flawed. Science by definition is the stufy of the natural world we cannot prove God because God is not part of the natural world. But there are good arguments for God's existence like the fine tuning argument that shows the shear impossibility of life emerging without a designer that makes the belief in a God more probable. So if it is better for a man to be a mystic and it is at least probable that God does exist then why not have a leap of faith? Your question essentially is how can Hamlet know Shakespeare exist. i think that there is only one sure way for Hamlet to know about the existence of Shakespeare is only if Shakespeare writes himself into the play. This is why I'm very interested in the resurrection argument of the Christian claim that God did write himself into the world as Jesus Christ (watch the link below)
Faith and belief in God do not require proof, which can be a difficult hurdle to overcome for many who wish to believe but have very analytical minds. There have been many documented cases of miracles, The Shroud of Turin simply existing is quite a good bit of physical proof of Christ's divinity. But belief in God and Jesus Christ must come from personal conviction and faith that can stand alone without proven miracles and physical proof. I suggest reading more of G.K.'s apologetic works, as well as Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis. The Screwtape Letters may also be enjoyable, even if you still don't find yourself a believer.
@@sourdrop Well, the Shroud of Turin has been radiometrically dated and found to be much later than the period it's supposed to belong to. If faith and conviction is all that is required then couldn't you believe or disbelieve anything on that basis? One person has faith the supernatural exists, another has faith it doesn't. If you can accept something without evidence you can dismiss it without evidence.
Catholic represents the Universal. I like Jesus"s recent exposition about the Holy Spirit in A Course in Miracles. And Yogananda's 2 volume works on both the New Testament and the Bhagavad Gita. He shares about his experiences with Jesus while writing that former work. Krishna and Christna, avatars of the East and West (ok Middle East :-) Had to be patient and listen to the ACIM audiobook multiple time (5th time currently)...by the third experience the pieces really connected.
Christna? Seriously? You know "Christ" is just a transliteration of the Hebrew word meshiah Also did you forget the part where Jesus said He is the ONLY way to the father?
@@killiancullen6430 There are too many books about true things to justify plunging into his fantasy, unless I find it very appealing to ny psyche. Coincidentally, it's that appeal which is essentially why you and he choose to believe Christianity while admitting in a sophisticated RC fashion that, uh, it isn't "actually true." You can Donald Hoffman or Jordan Peterson your way out of that, if that makes sense, but if one already has a sufficient approach to the "numinous" and the unknown, one doesn't need any one particular version of fantasy.
@@SavageHenry777 I appreciate your reply, but that doesn’t give you the right the right to say he was RC because he wanted to be and you haven’t even studied his works. You can disagree with someone but stating Chesterton merely willed to believe it is a falsity if I’ve ever heard one. He certainly made a lot of your atheist idols looks like fools.
I never found Christ in the Catholic Church. So, what was the point? The wafer is not Christ. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ. If you don’t have the Spirit of Christ living in you through faith in Christ, you don’t belong to Christ (Romans 8:9). You receive the Spirit of Christ by becoming born again through faith in Christ (John 3). Until that happens, you don’t belong to Him.
Might wanna check again because the early Christians surely believed "the wafer" to be Christ. ...kinda exactly like He said Himself in scripture. And let's be honest, how can we belong to Him if we do not listen to Him?
Let us consider an early Christian martyr who died for the Gospel, Ignatius of Antioch who was a disciple of John the Apostle. He was devoured by lions in the Colosseum in 108 AD. "But consider those who are of a different opinion with respect to the grace of Christ which has come unto us, how opposed they are to the will of God. They have no regard for love; no care for the widow, or the orphan, or the oppressed; of the bond, or of the free; of the hungry, or of the thirsty. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again. Those, therefore, who speak against this gift of God, incur death in the midst of their disputes. But it were better for them to treat it with respect, that they also might rise again. It is fitting, therefore, that you should keep aloof from such persons, and not to speak of them either in private or in public, but to give heed to the prophets, and above all, to the Gospel, in which the passion [of Christ] has been revealed to us, and the resurrection has been fully proved." -Ignatius of Antioch 107-108AD. Letter: to the Smyrnaeans
The Pope granted him the Title "Defender of the Church" and for good reason. He is revered as a Saint by MILLIONS. Canonize him already!
Man, the puritans went pagan way quicker than Chesterton expected. Lol
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@@pothecary without the magisterium and acclamation of tradition, subversion is easy and quick.
Yeah the Catholics worship and inclusion of the lgbtq satan worshipping community is just what Chesterton would love!
Don’t forget about all the priest touching little kids! Woooheeee.
As an Orthodox Christian, the main reason I can continue to admire Chesterton, a Catholic, is that everything that he says about the Catholic Church I generally find true about the Orthodox Church. Almost everything he says, is like, check, check, check, check. and I say this, not in any triumphalistic way, but having seen the very worst of the Church hierarchy and still having to believe.
I really do believe Chesterton speaks to all Christians. Thank you for sharing brother🙏
I’ve listened to this so many times. Thank you.
Well said Mr. Chesterton.
What a great counterbalance to triumphalism!!!
It's so enjoyable listening to you. Please make more videos! Thank you 🙏🏿
"In short, I would say chiefly of the Catholic Church that it is Catholic."
Perfect!
This was awesome. God bless :)
Beautiful, thank you🙏🏻
Right..👍Thank you’
Thank you so much for all your work I learned a lot ❤
If you liked this, then look up The Society of Gilbert Keith Chesterton.
They're the best. One of my favourite channels.
I am Catholic, and always have been. Why? I am still not sure. However, I do believe that what maintains my Catholicness is my continued doubt of the Church and its intentions. I believe that only through discourse and doubt can my faith be strengthened. Thus, I believe it is necessary to ask this:
How can the Catholic Church of 2000 years be right when it deceives its people, a diverse and universal people, by covering up child molestation, supporting those in the past who have used the Church for their factions' endeavors of greed and glory, and have even held, and still hold, land and secrets when there is supposedly no class and distinction between the Church and the people?
With all the corruption and the institution of covering up, how can the Catholic Church still be right?
Why shouldn't I leave when the Catholic Church when it has lost its face?
Why does the Catholic Church claim to follow Jesus' teachings, especially about the innocence of children, when it has taken such from so many?
Christ did not make a church with perfect people. Peter rejected Christ 3 times, yet Christ made him the Vicar of his Church.
1.) If you look deeper you'll find that it's a certain group that has infiltrated the Church that is responsible for it.
2.) The statistics of that sick stuff happening are higher in secular organizations that work with kids than in the Church.
3.) Don't let Catholics keep you from being Catholic. The Church very clearly condemns that.
Thank you
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Wow!
I enjoy the way he expresses ideas, but he doesn't have a lot to say about doctrine.
For all his love of his words, it seems he is uninterested in HIs WORD.
I'd recommend reading more Chesterton, my friend. He wrote thousands of essays, and doctrine appears more than you might think. Thank you for your comment!
I can read an intelligent and contemplative man like Chesterton, be captivated by his prose, as I am with C.S. Lewis, but still be none the wiser as to why I should believe the claims. Is there any reason to think the supernatural exists or ever could exist?
I love your question. I don't have an answer for you. I think life reveals the answer to us each individually. Ideally, we would have a conversation about it over coffee or a beer.
Assuming you have read orthodoxy, youd be aware that a man is more sane when is is a mystic and even more so as a Catholic. The question of "proving" the supernatural does not make sense. What do you mean by proof? Are you expecting some kind of empirical evidence for God's existence? I think the very question is flawed. Science by definition is the stufy of the natural world we cannot prove God because God is not part of the natural world. But there are good arguments for God's existence like the fine tuning argument that shows the shear impossibility of life emerging without a designer that makes the belief in a God more probable. So if it is better for a man to be a mystic and it is at least probable that God does exist then why not have a leap of faith?
Your question essentially is how can Hamlet know Shakespeare exist. i think that there is only one sure way for Hamlet to know about the existence of Shakespeare is only if Shakespeare writes himself into the play. This is why I'm very interested in the resurrection argument of the Christian claim that God did write himself into the world as Jesus Christ (watch the link below)
th-cam.com/play/PL1mr9ZTZb3TUYymBPce08oyuhnHLLkR_B.html&si=fPaQ4F8jKyMGo0lE
Faith and belief in God do not require proof, which can be a difficult hurdle to overcome for many who wish to believe but have very analytical minds. There have been many documented cases of miracles, The Shroud of Turin simply existing is quite a good bit of physical proof of Christ's divinity. But belief in God and Jesus Christ must come from personal conviction and faith that can stand alone without proven miracles and physical proof. I suggest reading more of G.K.'s apologetic works, as well as Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis. The Screwtape Letters may also be enjoyable, even if you still don't find yourself a believer.
@@sourdrop Well, the Shroud of Turin has been radiometrically dated and found to be much later than the period it's supposed to belong to. If faith and conviction is all that is required then couldn't you believe or disbelieve anything on that basis? One person has faith the supernatural exists, another has faith it doesn't. If you can accept something without evidence you can dismiss it without evidence.
Ha! Good stuff, this is comical 😊
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Catholic represents the Universal. I like Jesus"s recent exposition about the Holy Spirit in A Course in Miracles. And Yogananda's 2 volume works on both the New Testament and the Bhagavad Gita. He shares about his experiences with Jesus while writing that former work. Krishna and Christna, avatars of the East and West (ok Middle East :-) Had to be patient and listen to the ACIM audiobook multiple time (5th time currently)...by the third experience the pieces really connected.
why u spamming this, bruh? won't read this yogi sry
Christna? Seriously? You know "Christ" is just a transliteration of the Hebrew word meshiah
Also did you forget the part where Jesus said He is the ONLY way to the father?
10,000 reasons and not one shred of actual evidence indicative of any supernatural claim.
He was RC because he wanted to be.
I recommend reading Orthodoxy for a more detailed breakdown of his position.😄
Tell me you’ve read no Chesterton without telling me you’ve read no Chesterton
@@killiancullen6430 There are too many books about true things to justify plunging into his fantasy, unless I find it very appealing to ny psyche. Coincidentally, it's that appeal which is essentially why you and he choose to believe Christianity while admitting in a sophisticated RC fashion that, uh, it isn't "actually true."
You can Donald Hoffman or Jordan Peterson your way out of that, if that makes sense, but if one already has a sufficient approach to the "numinous" and the unknown, one doesn't need any one particular version of fantasy.
@@SavageHenry777 I appreciate your reply, but that doesn’t give you the right the right to say he was RC because he wanted to be and you haven’t even studied his works. You can disagree with someone but stating Chesterton merely willed to believe it is a falsity if I’ve ever heard one. He certainly made a lot of your atheist idols looks like fools.
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I never found Christ in the Catholic Church. So, what was the point? The wafer is not Christ. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ. If you don’t have the Spirit of Christ living in you through faith in Christ, you don’t belong to Christ (Romans 8:9). You receive the Spirit of Christ by becoming born again through faith in Christ (John 3). Until that happens, you don’t belong to Him.
Might wanna check again because the early Christians surely believed "the wafer" to be Christ.
...kinda exactly like He said Himself in scripture. And let's be honest, how can we belong to Him if we do not listen to Him?
Let us consider an early Christian martyr who died for the Gospel, Ignatius of Antioch who was a disciple of John the Apostle. He was devoured by lions in the Colosseum in 108 AD.
"But consider those who are of a different opinion with respect to the grace of Christ which has come unto us, how opposed they are to the will of God. They have no regard for love; no care for the widow, or the orphan, or the oppressed; of the bond, or of the free; of the hungry, or of the thirsty. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again. Those, therefore, who speak against this gift of God, incur death in the midst of their disputes. But it were better for them to treat it with respect, that they also might rise again. It is fitting, therefore, that you should keep aloof from such persons, and not to speak of them either in private or in public, but to give heed to the prophets, and above all, to the Gospel, in which the passion [of Christ] has been revealed to us, and the resurrection has been fully proved." -Ignatius of Antioch 107-108AD. Letter: to the Smyrnaeans
If you depend solely on your own sinful feelings as to the search for divinity, you’ll find yourself lost sooner than you’d think.