I'd prefer a video on Todd Todgers😂😂. I love any content about Billy and his cronies. Oh... there's a Donkey Kong kill screen coming up if anyone's interested.
It's just a matter of time before it can be proved through scientific methods. It's a true crime to claim to have a record on Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, and others. It's a crime against humanity.
That seems totally believable to me, they bring out the founder for a PR stunt. He's a retired businessman, not an engineer or a programmer. They don't know or care about some dumb bug in a 40+ year old game. Even if they had a programmer from 40 years ago chances are they wouldn't remember or care either. And it's a stupid question to ask anyway.
U must not been around in 80s n 90s nobody knows wtf bits are still to this day lol... it's just pixels basically how many colors it shows or can handle nobody really knows. I've made tons of stuff and can't tell you how it actually works. Most time we just create stuff n it works
@@187umkillah That might be true now with a multitude of high level abstracted languages, IDEs that highlight errors and tools like Unreal and Unity, but back in the day if you didn't understand bits, bytes, registers, stacks, how memory worked and the peculiarities of the CPU you were coding for you didn't have a hope of building a working game. Assembly != Python
@ddud4966 Yeah, but Billy claimed Nakamura had his "inner circle" programmers with him at the time. They wouldn't understand that they would run out of memory addresses?
Bill Bastable had the first perfect Pac-man in like 1985, complete with a picture of the split screen, a newspaper article and a picture with his screenshot with Billy’s best buddy Todd Rogers before Billy ever attempted a record run. And there’s still ZERO proof Billy got any perfect pacman game
And what’s hilarious is Todd Rogers was there shaking his hand whilst holding the picture. So he was fully aware of it before billy got his perfect game 😂 And yeah there’s no photo and video of billy getting perfect pacman and reaching DK kill screen up until recent years.
@@TyroClint the only “perfect” pacman games from Billy I am aware of are the music city multi con, that fell short; and the Galloping Ghost Arcade one that took over a week in a closed arcade and also isn’t an original game.
@@TyroClint There is 24 year old video footage of Tim Sczerby reaching the aracde Kill screen and beating Billys documented 1982 arcade world record before Steve ever made his first submission on he title. Tims score was initially and unjustly deemed "Constantly disputed and impossible to verify therefore merrited no inclusion in the film" This was a blatant lie. Here's is he oldest provable arcade Donkey Kong arcade world record and Kill screen predating Steve Webie. th-cam.com/video/1P6edH95LCc/w-d-xo.html No word from Steve Webie on this after almost 17 years.
@@HoldenMagroin2 he did no such thing; wasn’t a thing you could do back then. There’s a dip-switch that is intended by Namco to pause the board, that’s what he did to take a couple breaks. The same thing that’s done today with the parking location
@@floivanus That's right. Billy's initial lawsuit against Karl had nothing to do with Billy cheating at a video game in a so-called "documentary" that was not even real to begin with. Billy was accused of causing Apollo's death with his bullshit lawsuit. Even Apollo himself stated this was not true before he passed. I hate to say it, but Karl could be in some deep didgeridoo. Perhaps Steve Weibe will pull another "lost VHS tape" out of his ass containing the title "Turnabout is Fair Play" and save the day?
Billys MAME anomalies can easily be explained. A tear in the fabric of space and time which combined with airborne particles of metal created a miniature black hole. This black hole anomaly interposed itself between the video capture equipment and VCR forming a gravitational lens. This lens displaced the magnetic fragments of the VHS tape causing the finished recorded game play to display MAME like transitions and signatures.😄 Now if I pay some academic quack like DR. Zyda to confirm this malarkey as plausable, does this means Twin Galaxies has to accept the score?😄
@@1FallenStar Why do you call The King of Kong a documentary? The so-called documentary never informs its viewing audience of who broke Billys 1982 arcade Donkey Kong world record nor does it inform the viewing audience of who the Twin Galaxies world record holder on the title was at the time Steve bribed his way in via his movie connections. Instead the so-called "documentary' deliberately covers up these facts, re-writes history and creates a fictional story. Can you explain with out deleting this comment?
@@kenabi it was because the big dipper was in alignment with Jupiter meaning cosmic rays hit the cabinet directly for 1/3rd of a nanosecond giving us the girder finger effect, source: it came to me in a dream
I have been following the development of this story for years, so I am already invested in all the details. But the algorithm recommended this video, and it's always entertaining to hear people bring down Billy, so I gave it a shot, and I was pleasantly entertained throughout the entire video, and you did a great job narrating it. When I went to check out the rest of your channel I couldn't believe this was only your fifth video available, and that you only have 171 subscribers (yet). I sincerely think you have a bright future here on TH-cam. Keep up the good work!
Billy's absolutely not the video game player of the century, but he's not the conman of the century either. The conman of the century wouldn't be so stupid.
Trump has a good case for con man of the century and he bragged about struggling with a simple dementia test. Billy's almost on the same level. He just lacked ambition.
Billy did the same thing at Boomers that he did at the Mortgage Brokers. He brought MAME VHS tapes with him. No one saw him play at the Mortgage Brokers. He was in a different room hidden. At Boomers - no one knew about this "event" until after he allegedly had the scores. He started calling people telling them he was about to break the record. When they got there, he pulled out 2 VHS tapes he brought with him claiming that he had "JUST" broken the records.
Hilarious that Billy tried to act like Karl was an afterthought when counting his lawsuits he’s filed. As if the whole deposition isn’t for Karl’s lawsuit. Karl lives absolutely rent free in Billy’s head
That dismissive attitude is all bravado - Billy know he seriously screwed up filing that one, because he can't just drop the lawsuit and walk away. One way or another, Billy and Karl both WILL have their day in court. And that fact terrifies Mitchell more than anything else.
What do you mean? The deposition in the video clip was for the Twin galaxies lawsuit. (I've watched the whole thing twice. Billy's lies in the deposition are some of his most bonkers ever)
@@Megaritz Yeah? And did you see in the clip where he's counting the lawsuits and he says three several times (almost like he's trying to convince himself) then goes "four, one in Australia." Anyhow, _Karl_ is that one in Australia that he pretended to forget about. We know he's pretending because, come on, this guy has an obsession. He's already in goblin mode all the time, he's one bad makeup job away from becoming the Joker... and not like in a good way I have to specify for those weirdos who idolize the Joker for some reason.
Dude I noticed in the infamous pic of Billy and his sauce empire.... It looks like there's a bottle of tobacco in there and... please Lord... Don't make me have to boycott my favorite hot sauce over this piece of shit.
I think we need a sequel to The King of Kong, but this time it should be a docu-drama. And completely unironically playing the role of Billy Mitchell should be Peter Dinklage.
I’ve been fascinated with this story the last few months. I’ve watched Jobst’s and Veritas’ videos more than I care to admit. You bring a new perspective and new information, so great job! The now infamous “Pac-Man” plaque is a FREAKING ADVERTISEMENT! I had to pause there because I was laughing too hard! Keep up the great work. I’m off to watch more of your videos.
This is just my personal opinion but: I personally think that Billy Mitchell is a legitimately competent arcade player who wants you to believe (And perhaps believes himself) that he's a *great* player. Reaching the killscreens of Pacman and Donkey Kong etc at all is a legitimate achievement, that I believe Billy has accomplished in the past. I just also 100% believe that he's a lying cheater who cheats at high score competitions and lies about it.
I do think he’s a great player, but he can’t possibly stand not being the _best player_ & doesn’t think he should have to play by the rules he claims to espouse. That & his insufferable bravado & complete inability to admit fault (typical of narcissists) is precisely what makes everyone want to see him take a giant nosedive, even more than he already has. The lawsuits & what happened to Apollo Legend only have increased everyone’s want of that one thousand fold.
There's nothing wrong with being a high-level player who isn't the best. But Billy thinks there is. The way Billy talks about his competitors, like Rick Fothergill and the other Pacman players, is so vile. Billy constantly insults them for not being the very best or first to get the "perfect" score. Billy is terrified to be seen this way himself, so he's built an elaborate network of lies to make himself look amazing.
People who cheat high scores and speedruns are almost always top tier players who use their knowledge of the games to cheat and stay ahead of their rivals. It's like steroids in Olympic sports, you still need to train and actually be talented at the sport, but it gives you that unfair edge against legitimate contenders.
@Louie I've been wondering for weeks as to why exactly I hated the new AJ Styles's look so much...Until I realize it's because he looks like a shorter bulkier Billy Mitchell. Would make a killer tag team.
This right here, is the funniest part of all of this. So he's mad that people are saying his records aren't legit, and doesn't want people to think he's cheated, but here's the thing: nobody gives a fuck. I say this as a hardcore fan of speedrunning and video game records myself: this hobby even now is pretty niche and the general public really doesn't care. You know what they do care about, though? Legal conflict, interpersonal drama, and a good old investigative "did he or didn't he do it here's how he did or didn't" CSI style affair. Even my 80 year old mother has heard of this guy, because he popped up in a news article she happened to see, and she doesn't even know what a Donkey Kong is and still calls all video game consoles Nintendos. The whole planet knows this guy is a cheater now, and "Video Game Player of the Century" is basically a colloquialism for "cheater" akin to "Dream Luck", and it is 100% his fault, and he could win every single lawsuit and that wouldn't change. You could call it the Mitchell Effect if it wasn't already coined to Barbara Streisand.
Haha yeah i can totally see him using his resturant money to make a terrible vanity film where hes a badass ninja who fucks. A real, black tanktop, Best of the Worst film.
You didn't mention the Japanese guys said they never awarded him any "Gamer of the Century" award, and the whole "you know more than us" conversation never occurred.
He’s given himself that title after playing arcade games in the 80s as if that makes him still relevant in the gaming industry 40 years later. He’s universally known as a cheater and most of us didn’t even know about his existence until he started suing everyone.
Honestly whatever one might think of this guy I can relate to the part where he's trying to explain how to plug something in. "He plugged it in." "How?" "By plugging it in." "How did he do that?" "He took the wires and connected them where they were supposed to go." "How?" "BY PLUGGING IT IN."
the most annoying part of the 'defense', is that the bug was present in most mame versions below .116, including the ones released at the times billy supposedly got the records. and they still couldn't produce the full girder along with the finger.
Is that the most annoying part of the "defense"? I feel like the most annoying part is that it's not even a modicum of a defense, since all it does is to put one branch of MAME into question. Actually, though, MAME is almost irrelevant, except that it helps in clarifying the argument against Billy. For a disqualification, it's very much sufficient to show that none of the screen transitions match up with the original arcade. Nothing else is needed to prove that he didn't go by the rules. We don't need to identify the hard- and/or software that was used for the violation.
@@Kijinn You are correct that we do not have to prove he used mame. All we have to prove is that he didn't use a real arcade machine. We aren't required to speculate what he might have used instead. But we have this ready example of what he could have used. People generally claim "he used mame" because mame demonstrates the bug. I cannot prove what he did use precisely, but I can prove what he did not use. I will not make the claim that literally anyone who has ever touched the mame codebase could do the same, but I will say that more than a few people could demonstrate with a disassembly of the DK source code, a description of exactly how the chips on the arcade board work, and a demonstration of how mame failed to emulate those chips 100% accurately resulted in the bug that proved Billy's run was fake. A few could actually show you oscilloscope traces of what it should look like and reproduce the evidence against Billy frame by frame from those traces. You'll notice he's been careful not to sue any of the people who could do that. 😉
Small clarification for a misunderstanding people watching may have, the monitor has no refreshrate, so the monitor can't be "60Hz". It'll simply display the refreshrate that the game is generating, in the case of Donkey Kong the CRT would be syncing to 60.6Hz. What monitors do have is a vertical range for sync that it can work within, monitors that aren't sync locked (arcade monitors, or the majority of european TVs) can sync anywhere from somewhere below 50Hz to right around 61Hz at most without going out of sync and displaying an unstable rolling image, the reason for the range is to still stay around 15-16.xx+ kHz (the total freq range) when the vertical line count of the resolution used is taken into account.
CTR monitors can go higher - 56hz ( max displayrate) were considered office monitors and so 60hz - Gamers wanted at least 72hz which worked perfectly with the isdn modem speed making you an aimgod when combined . But i guess the early days had the 56-60 hz range
@@Jkaninteangemittnamn You're talking about PC monitor CRT's which go above 15-16kHz, not arcade monitor CRT's. No arcade game ran above 60.XHz. (higher kHz 24-31kHz arcade chassis were used for 384-480p, not higher refresh)
@@riggles all correct, and it was not uncommon for arcade boards to run a lower refresh rate to allow for a higher vertical line count, such as the Seibu boards that run around 53Hz. Same way Sega get the resolution on screen with 24.5KHz displays on the Model 2 by running at around 57Hz, instead of the 60 all the youtubers claim it was.
What a lot of people don't realize is how badly represented arcade game rereleases can be because of this. Arcade Archives on Switch fpr example has Hacha Mecha Fighter, a 55Hz game, play at 60Hz bir with terrible jittery/skipping motion from the mismatch. We can only hope all future consoles have Variable Refreshrate (VRR) support and that the companies making official re-releases care about this, the general public doesn't really know about this and think that the non-smooth motion is due to the games being old or flawed emulation performance. There's ways to play emulation with VRR for modern screens (RA and different builds of MAME), but as always, official ways are way behind unofficial ones.
@@riggles all true mate yeah, Daytona on the Model 2 emulator is another example of something similar, force it to the correct refresh and it's good as gold.
The girder finger defense is akin to "Your honor, my client may have been filmed committing the crime on 8 cameras, but this 9th one had a smudge that COULD have looked like him instead, so all other evidence should be discarded"
Billy Mitchell was just a medicore Pac-Man and Donkey Kong player as a teenager before internet existed when it was much easier to pull off cons. He rode it for decades. His fall from grace is the most deserved de-crowning, ever.
It seems that he was, and still is, a top level player. The problem is that even the best players will have bad days (in terms of setting records, almost every day must be a bad day). Instead of accepting that, and letting others occasionally beat him, he lied and cheated. Then, once he started, it was too easy to dig deeper. As Veritas's video said, cheating doesn't help you get faster times. It helps you get times faster. He has achieved these same scores legitimately, but he did it over a decade later after they were no longer records. And, instead of getting a record every time he played publicly (as he did in his cheating era), it took him years to achieve them.
Not a fan of Mitchell, but be honest, he is far more than a "mediocre" player, like it or not the guy has done "live" games where he was well into "championship" score territory. He's just not remotely the "best" anymore, (if he ever was).
Just to clarify, although embellished in the King of Kong documentary, the legitimate reason Steve's taped score was removed is because his machine was a "hybrid" cabinet. The directors of the doc state this in the DVD commentary. Sadly, Steve's board contained both Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr on it. There is a scene where they show Steve's cabinet in his garage and there is a VERY carefully placed shadow to block the "Donkey Kong Jr" text on the side of the cabinet. The hybrid boards are MUCH cheaper to acquire that original DK boards. Steve has said the doc is 75 percent embellished and 25 percent of what actually happened. Steve was also well aware that they were coming to inspect the cabinet, he said he was completely unaware of the rule until TG notified him of it. So, it was legitimately removed from the leader board.
Would Steve care to elaborate just which parts of the so-called "documentary" were stolen, fraudulent and defamatory....er....I mean...."embellished"...... and which parts were not? Would Steve care to elaborate on what part of his life ever involved him beating Billy Mitchells 1982 arcade world record that he should be paid life rights to the same? Undocumented scores from the 1980's do not count. I thought Steve Webie tells all in his softball interviews. I hope Walter Daze was telling the truth when he mentioned Ed CunTingham was in the process of perpetrating another grifting fraud...er...I...mean "documentary". Hopefully such a documentary will contain a prequel to KoK. I just know the entire gaming community, myself and a couple of lawyers in the field of entertainment law would absolutely love to hear a more detailed back story of just how Steve was the first documented player to beat Billy's 1982 arcade world record after it allegedly stood for over 20 years. The two lawyers in the field of entertainment law, who are now fully aware of the true facts behind the matter, are particular eager for more of such "embellished" documentary content. Do you or Steve know why films contain disclaimers such as "The events depicted in this motion picture have no relation to any real persons living or dead." That Film making idiot Seth Gordon allegedly went to film school so he should know why. If Steve's Flim-Flam movie whores make another fraud documentary depicting Steve as the first documented player to beat Billy's 1982 arcade world record, they will find out why. .They bullshited their way out of it the first time because the statute of limitations expired (this is what happens when you trust Billy Mitchell) . They WILL NOT get away with their grift a second time I can assure you.
"The directors of the doc state this in the DVD commentary....." The directors of the King of Kong so-called "documentary" are bullshit conmen who don't even know what a documentary is let alone have the mental capacity to be commenting on one. I'd love to ..."embellish"... a Louisville Slugger and a box of roofing nails and "embellish" the money they stole from Tim directly out of their grifting asses.
"legitimate reason" is still up for debate. TG actually accepted Wiebe's earlier scores despite some folks in their circle like (I believe) Darren Harris knowing it was a DDK ("Double Donkey Kong") board. Only after Wiebe started putting up WR-caliber scores did the old TG crew start making a big fuss about how it wasn't the same. And in retrospect, it was all wagon-circling - if it had benefitted their pal Billy to say DDK was equivalent to original, they would have argued that instead. A few years ago, Donkey Kong Forum lifted the prohibition on DDK boards, and allow them alongside the originals, with the caveat that those scores can be removed if any significant difference between DDK and original is discovered at a later date.
@@ersatz_cats In case you haven't figured it out yet , the so-called 'documentary was scripted and staged. Twin Galaxies covering up other peoples sores to favor Billy makes no sense especially when the Sczerby score was allowed to stay as #1 on the scoreboard for three years with out a peep. Only When the topic matter became of marketable value did the Sczerby score suddenly become 'constantly disputed and impossible to verify therefore merited no inclusion in the film'. This was a blatant lie. Five years of time, expense and resources wasted analyzing scores that Billy never actually played from a so-called 'documentary' that wasn't even real.😄 Suckers. Steve Weibe was also in on the grift. Even if Steve's lost performance was retroactively accepted as arcade when no original hardware was used, the Sczerby score still predates Steve's 'lost' score by over one year anyway. Again, Steve never beat Billys 1982 arcade score as seen in the so-called 'documentary', Tim did and the film makers tried to cover this up so their pal Steve could be awarded the credit. DKF forum would credit Steve with a lost WR with just a score written in crayon on the back of a cocktail napkin. Retroactively awarding Steve arcade credit for not playing on original hardware while harassing Billy for the same reason is just ignorant. Good thing Billy and his scammer lawyers are better liars and scammers otherwise they would figure this out and really have a solid case.
Hey! Great stuff. Yes yes and yes on any more retro gaming content. This stuff especially. Bring on the Rogers stuff or whatever else you got. Great channel and I'm here.
Excited for the Rodgers stuff. Honestly, considering in king of Kong one guy admitted half of those dudes in the 80s faked so many of their scores, we need more videos talking about these dudes!
33:39 The immaculate conception of the Donkey Kong board done with no tools, because our man who installed it is Fricken Inspector Gadget himself and has all the tools available inside his fingers. Go Go Gadget finer, job done. 👍
Gotta love that the place where these guys compete in old games and fight over the ethics of high scores, and how the old games are the true test of skill, while they are all cheating, is called Boomers.
Well, it wouldn't be fair if I didnt state truth. Boomers was more a go-cart center with the largest wooden roller coaster in florida. Place had been there for over 50 years under the name GrandPrix race-a-rama. Sold in mid 2000s, renamed boomers. True is that it wasn't a place where classic game competitions were held. It simply was close to BMs place. So it was perfect place to stage that boomers score. Robert's arcade shop wasnt far. And Todd happen to been in area cause he was in town buying spiders. FYI, the boomer video showing the bag Todd had with the "video", had no videos. It was full of shredded paper and spiders.
@@cashe18 I’m glad you gave Boomers pretty accurate recognition. The original Grand Prix lasted around 1972 to 1986, then they moved to the location of the former Malibu Grand Prix in Dania to open the store that later became Boomers. It was already Boomers by 2000, and the roller coaster was operated separately by one of the Race O Rama founders but he had synergy with Boomers so I guess people just consider it an attraction of Boomers since they were neighbors. The original Boomers is a little more north in Boca.
Nakamura was the president of Namco at the time. PacMan's creator was Toru Iwatani. No, I don't know why William defers to the former when discussing PacMan.
I'm sure glad nothing like this happens in modern video game records and speedruns! Good video, you can't go wrong shredding on the Hot Sauce King of wherever he's from. He's a genuinely skilled player of many games, he's just such a sleazeball of a human being. Donkey Kong deserves a better champion. I'm gonna go play some Tropical Freeze now. Good luck with the channel.
25:48 Also, Tim was told by Twin Galaxies back in 1999 that as a requirement, a video submission must contain surrounding meta data such as the player visibly seen at the game itself and a pan shot of the surrounding area after completion. Do you know what this means? It means......NO... DIRECT....FEED....RECORDINGS.... WERE.....ALLOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Billy Mitchell cannot only NOT be seen playing the game, he can't be heard either and there is no pan shot of the surrounding area nor sound of any kind, game or otherwise. Billy Mitchell can't be seen playing anything. Billys tapes should have been disqualified instantly and never accepted to begin with. There was also a submission form to be filled out to accompany the video submission. Tim followed these rules and formalities but Billy did not.
I was in the Navy in 1982, we pulled into Fort Lauderdale, We were in on the 4th of July and in when they were filming, "Spring Break". This was 1982, I was hitting the local arcades and ran into a particularly Annoying person. He Looked and sounded like Billy. He explained how Defender and Stargate were really easy and his favorites were so much better. He could not even come close to me in Defender and Stargate, but he insisted he was a GOD of Arcades. I had met many Rubes who though the were the best, He did no impress. Arrogant, and Idnorant!
I forgot to say this earlier, but outstanding video! A very entertaining breakdown of the whole situation. I do want to say, regarding the "girder finger" you reference at about the one-hour mark, that's not the same phenomenon as the contested girder finger at all. It's just rolling shutter causing a diagonal tear across the screen, which happens to erase one of the girder's diagonals in a weird looking way.
I don't thumb up that many videos anymore. At least, I don't like to. I've watched SOOOO many videos since I'm on TH-cam and you can only save 5000 videos you liked. But this video deserves 2 thumbs up. 2 things, I have to point out, that I found EXTREMELY positive: 1) finally a FEMALE voice telling the story 🤤 And 2) NO ADS!! AT ALL!! Like, I was shocked, this was SUCH a smooth watch, I'll definitely watch it again. And again.. And maybe another time.... Much love and appreciation! 😘😘😘🫶🫶🫶
This story is so absurd, it’s literally fascinating. It’s just so insane, it’s almost hard to believe. And I’ve seen almost every Billy Mitchell video on TH-cam. This is probably my second or third favourite.
As a gen xer..nothing screams loser to my generation than wearing the same clothes and hairstyle and listening to the same music as one did in the 80s..
Fun fact: Brian Kuh - the guy from King of Kong who went around telling everyone there's a Donkey Kong kill screen coming up - for a while, he was managing a GameStop in New Hampshire. (Even though he claimed to be "retired".) For a while, those of us working on this case had a theory that Brian was the unnamed "GameStop manager" who set up the mortgage brokers machine all along, until Billy's side eventually had to identify Josh Ryan during discovery.
Gotta love when Billy acts like knowing more about Pac Man is some huge feat, when most speed runners today know far more about the games they play then the game creators. It's ridiculous how much people as a group figure out about games like Mario 64 or Super Metroid.
Wonderful. Great job in explaining all this. Please make another video once this has been properly followed up and he has had everything "clarified" once and for all. I think we all hope this is sooner rather than later.
His story about the designer of Pacman saying you know far more about Pacman than I do, if it even DID happen, reveals his lack of understanding about Japanese or east asian cultures in general. Compliments that lower the speaker and prop up the person they are talking to - and generally being humble are VERY typical - and in response you're not supposed to run and BRAG about it. You're supposed to sidestep the compliment and be humble about it in return. Anyway, well made! Subscribed!
Jon! Sorry to hear what you're going through - glad to hear you're on the mend! Your videos have played a big part in my re-kindled interest and love of retro gaming - particularly Atari 2600 gaming 😁.
This is really my first direct contact with Billy connected content. Of course, growing up in the 80s and 90s video game mantra I'd heard of him but really knew nothing much other than the mythic perfect Pac Man. Watching his taped interview, he's so clearly full of $#!+ he squeaks. How that interviewer didn't need an emergency shower, mid-conversation, I'll never know. Excellent content. Fascinating.
Hi. Subbed. Is there a way for you to change settings so that captions are automatically generated. It makes watching the video easier. (Thanks) I like pausing to read the documents you show on the screen. I have been following the recent lawsuits related to this person so I appreciate the background. It is in my opinion sad to see someone who seemed to be doing so great end up publicly shamed.
Hey thanks for the sub! I’m looking into the captions for you... For some reason I can’t do automatically generated but I’ll work on trying to manually put them in today!
The risk is in the tabletop RPG space there is a guy who got a Something Awful Rpg forum mod to basically jump through hoops and publicly apologize for.. something using Aus laws. A guy that probably sucks more than Billy Mitchell but tabletop RPGs are even lower stakes nobody cares about even so this loser gets away with being a butthurt little baby who needs his butt kissed every few seconds. In the world of RPGs the guy is utterly loathed.
You won't see an official sequel to The King of Kong because Tim Sczerby put the kibosh on that sequel ever being made. Ever wonder why films have disclaimers such as........"The events depicted in this motion picture are fictitious and have no relation to person(s) living or dead"?....... The King of Kong Film makers will NOT re-boot that King of Kong subject matter a second time considering it is proven to be directly based on an achievement Tim Initially performed and not the film makers "pal" Steve Webie. There is no argument here. Ever wonder why a sequel to such a popular documentary was never made in the last 17 years? Think about that one.😉
Since the King of Kong so-called "documentary" subject matter was proven to have been stolen and directly based on Tim Sczerby's achievement, any further exploitation of that subject matter is of no further use to the film makers and now dead to them . Why no sequel to the acclaimed so-called "documentary' after 17 years? Gee.....🤔......I wonder why. 🤔.......😝.The best they could do was to con-coct the "soap-opera drama" lawsuit scandal involving Billy allegedly cheating that has been grifting the community the last 5 years.
I believe he has made his living by touring as the best ever, so maybe he thinks he can't afford to lose that reputation. I'm wondering if he still has many fans after so much video of him looking like a fairly unpleasant person has been released.
Imagine living a life where your big claim to fame….your whole world revolves around “I’m good at Donkey Kong”. Meanwhile there are humble soldiers out there somewhere dodging bullets whizzing by their heads and never look or want any prestige.
Note: I AM NOT saying Billy isn't lying, however, if you read the portions of the testimony that describe what is needed to record the footage, he is specifically mentioning something that can transmit a signal a Windows PC can decode and stream. It is possible the device Billy thinks he saw was a simple pre-wired RF adaptor to send an analog signal to a VCR, DVR, or side monitor. It would go between the motherboard and cable that goes to the cabinet's monitor. It is more likely that what he saw however, was the monitor control board, which would already be in the cabinet. Basically the signal splitter and booster would plug into the mobo [with the connectors already installed, what the soldering , crimping and wire stripping is referring to] and the cabinet monitor and any external RF capable device. This comes from looking at the stills of the mobo and experience assembling [admittedly modern] Arcade 1-up cabinets for a friend. Also from 20 years in live music production as a lighting technician and electrician [I have had to make similar cables]. Also from attempting to record playing NES as a kid in the 90s. He is still lying, but I'm just giving an example of what he could have seen.
I thought something similar. The deposition sounded a bit like two people with slightly different ideas about the question agreeing to their own version. The deposition is hung up on the claim that the Game Stop guy personally installed the capture hardware,, at the venue, in addition to installing the main board. Billy sounds like he's unaware that he appears to have made that claim, and that detail is what he's being drilled on. From what I see here, the possibility that the capture hardware (whatever it was) had already been installed in the cabinet was not ruled out. It wasn't super clear if the capture hardware needed to connect to the main board in any way that couldn't be accomplished by splicing into the other harnesses and boards in the cabinet. Wouldn't soldering bits to a main board disqualify it as an unmodified board? Are there places you need to micro-clip a wire to a chip leg or something non-intuitive like that?
@@jimstanley_49 +All the connections would be made post-board, since for maintenance and transport, like all other commercial computer components, the arcade mobo uses standard connectors, mainly ribbon [like the type that connects the screen in a laptop, if you have ever opened your laptop] or multiplex [the standard "wiring harness" connector inside a desktop and literally and other non-micro electronics]. in either case, the device would have its own ports for whatever connector the mobo needs, and whatever connectors the device it converts to needs. video adaptors are a perfect example, as a capture device is a video adaptor with a splitter. The input side has legacy/specialist connectors [RF/Coax, component, VGA, DVI, SDI], and the output side has one or more copies of modern or common video ports [HDMI, ethernet, etc]. a video card or capture card [like those mentioned in the deposition] is an example of such a device that is installed directly onto the mobo, without soldering, that changes the output signal or splits it]. Mine is sitting in a standard PCI slot on the mobo and is sending signal to 1 monitor via HDMI and the other via DVI. But to your final question, yes, soldering anything to the mobo, or potentially changing jumper settings would make it "not original hardware" the jumpers are an edge case, they are small black sleeves that go over the tiny pins on the mobo, usually near the cache and processor, that change act as switches, usually doing things like clearing the cache, resetting the BIOS to factory, or bypassing boot devices before the keyboard is initiated. changing them would alter the way the system functions, but not in a cheaty way, they are mainly used for maintenance.
I mean, the thing is, he really IS a very, very good gamer. At his peak he was certainly top 5 in the world at least for PacMan, DK, DKJr., etc. But apparently that just wasn't good enough for his ego.
@@tombernard7483 i meant in terms of "being full of s***", pay-to-win-scamming, and over-advertising themselves. the graphics of said game looking great doesn't make it a "good" game
When Karl wins billy will be introduced to the penalties of a SLAAP suit. Especially in Australia. He will have to pay for every single expense karl incurred.
40:00 sorry Billy, but the STOCK joystick is black with a red ball on the top. It has never been black. This makes me question if he's EVER played on a stock Donkey Kong Machine. The way he answered he was 100% sure. Changing the Joystick wouldn't modify the machine or gameplay in anyway. I would have just said "It doesn't matter."
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I'd prefer a video on Todd Todgers😂😂. I love any content about Billy and his cronies. Oh... there's a Donkey Kong kill screen coming up if anyone's interested.
Good luck with your channel. This was an excellent video!
Sub’d for Todd Todgers video.
Shill Billy Mitchell hot sauce.
I double dog dare you!
@@Pit0fDespair I came here to say this.
Billy is going to sue all of us for watching this video.
And you're going to get sued for making a comment.
Oh crap! I made a comment too...
It's just a matter of time before it can be proved through scientific methods. It's a true crime to claim to have a record on Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, and others. It's a crime against humanity.
@@TheSBleeder Not gonna have much to go with after Karl gets through with him
Billy Mitchell is the Gene Simmons of the video game world, sues anybody who mentions him.
Jokes on him! I'm watching a modified TH-cam!
And Billy has already filed a new suit lol
Dude needs to BUY a new suit and get it tailored 😂
@@AnneHathawayRules His face is wearing a rented tuxedo with tails.
Remember he tried to sue the creator
of regular show cause GBF looked like
Him?😂
IGNORE his suits.
@AnneHathawayRules and for fuck sake, a tie that isn't an American Flag. It's cringe beyond belief.
The idea of Namco not understanding how bytes and memory work is hilarious.
Ohh kilobytes, kilobits and kibibits is a hard nut to crack. Only wizards and geniuses can handle that task.
That seems totally believable to me, they bring out the founder for a PR stunt. He's a retired businessman, not an engineer or a programmer. They don't know or care about some dumb bug in a 40+ year old game. Even if they had a programmer from 40 years ago chances are they wouldn't remember or care either. And it's a stupid question to ask anyway.
U must not been around in 80s n 90s nobody knows wtf bits are still to this day lol... it's just pixels basically how many colors it shows or can handle nobody really knows. I've made tons of stuff and can't tell you how it actually works. Most time we just create stuff n it works
@@187umkillah That might be true now with a multitude of high level abstracted languages, IDEs that highlight errors and tools like Unreal and Unity, but back in the day if you didn't understand bits, bytes, registers, stacks, how memory worked and the peculiarities of the CPU you were coding for you didn't have a hope of building a working game.
Assembly != Python
@ddud4966 Yeah, but Billy claimed Nakamura had his "inner circle" programmers with him at the time. They wouldn't understand that they would run out of memory addresses?
Bill Bastable had the first perfect Pac-man in like 1985, complete with a picture of the split screen, a newspaper article and a picture with his screenshot with Billy’s best buddy Todd Rogers before Billy ever attempted a record run.
And there’s still ZERO proof Billy got any perfect pacman game
And what’s hilarious is Todd Rogers was there shaking his hand whilst holding the picture. So he was fully aware of it before billy got his perfect game 😂
And yeah there’s no photo and video of billy getting perfect pacman and reaching DK kill screen up until recent years.
@@TyroClint the only “perfect” pacman games from Billy I am aware of are the music city multi con, that fell short; and the Galloping Ghost Arcade one that took over a week in a closed arcade and also isn’t an original game.
@@TyroClint There is 24 year old video footage of Tim Sczerby reaching the aracde Kill screen and beating Billys documented 1982 arcade world record before Steve ever made his first submission on he title. Tims score was initially and unjustly deemed "Constantly disputed and impossible to verify therefore merrited no inclusion in the film" This was a blatant lie. Here's is he oldest provable arcade Donkey Kong arcade world record and Kill screen predating Steve Webie. th-cam.com/video/1P6edH95LCc/w-d-xo.html No word from Steve Webie on this after almost 17 years.
Turns out Bill bastaples wasn't legit either.. he modified the software I believe
@@HoldenMagroin2 he did no such thing; wasn’t a thing you could do back then. There’s a dip-switch that is intended by Namco to pause the board, that’s what he did to take a couple breaks. The same thing that’s done today with the parking location
He pretends to forget about Karl, but it's Karl that's going to be the one that takes him down.
People tend to forget WHY Billy sued Karl in the first place
Hint; Apollo Legend
@@floivanus That's right. Billy's initial lawsuit against Karl had nothing to do with Billy cheating at a video game in a so-called "documentary" that was not even real to begin with. Billy was accused of causing Apollo's death with his bullshit lawsuit. Even Apollo himself stated this was not true before he passed. I hate to say it, but Karl could be in some deep didgeridoo. Perhaps Steve Weibe will pull another "lost VHS tape" out of his ass containing the title "Turnabout is Fair Play" and save the day?
Bruised ego. Our boy Randy Pitchford did EXACTLY the same thing to Jim Sterling during an interview discussing why Colonial Marines was such 💩.
i would pay to watch that trial live.
@@fibrodad1354I hope there is live coverage.
Billys MAME anomalies can easily be explained. A tear in the fabric of space and time which combined with airborne particles of metal created a miniature black hole. This black hole anomaly interposed itself between the video capture equipment and VCR forming a gravitational lens. This lens displaced the magnetic fragments of the VHS tape causing the finished recorded game play to display MAME like transitions and signatures.😄 Now if I pay some academic quack like DR. Zyda to confirm this malarkey as plausable, does this means Twin Galaxies has to accept the score?😄
Hahahaha 🤣🤣☠️
@@1FallenStar Why do you call The King of Kong a documentary? The so-called documentary never informs its viewing audience of who broke Billys 1982 arcade Donkey Kong world record nor does it inform the viewing audience of who the Twin Galaxies world record holder on the title was at the time Steve bribed his way in via his movie connections. Instead the so-called "documentary' deliberately covers up these facts, re-writes history and creates a fictional story. Can you explain with out deleting this comment?
I'll contact a Magician too who can testify that bad magical energy was responsible for glitched loading screens XD
The anomaly you saw in the game was not MAME. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.
@@kenabi it was because the big dipper was in alignment with Jupiter meaning cosmic rays hit the cabinet directly for 1/3rd of a nanosecond giving us the girder finger effect, source: it came to me in a dream
I have been following the development of this story for years, so I am already invested in all the details.
But the algorithm recommended this video, and it's always entertaining to hear people bring down Billy, so I gave it a shot, and I was pleasantly entertained throughout the entire video, and you did a great job narrating it.
When I went to check out the rest of your channel I couldn't believe this was only your fifth video available, and that you only have 171 subscribers (yet).
I sincerely think you have a bright future here on TH-cam. Keep up the good work!
Billy's absolutely not the video game player of the century, but he's not the conman of the century either. The conman of the century wouldn't be so stupid.
Trump has a good case for con man of the century and he bragged about struggling with a simple dementia test.
Billy's almost on the same level. He just lacked ambition.
That would be biden, but billy is in second place
@@briansouth9325Shame you're such a mark for the kind of con men who brag about struggling with dementia tests.
#TeamWeibe
He's Mr. Donkey-con
Billy did the same thing at Boomers that he did at the Mortgage Brokers. He brought MAME VHS tapes with him. No one saw him play at the Mortgage Brokers. He was in a different room hidden. At Boomers - no one knew about this "event" until after he allegedly had the scores. He started calling people telling them he was about to break the record. When they got there, he pulled out 2 VHS tapes he brought with him claiming that he had "JUST" broken the records.
Hilarious that Billy tried to act like Karl was an afterthought when counting his lawsuits he’s filed. As if the whole deposition isn’t for Karl’s lawsuit. Karl lives absolutely rent free in Billy’s head
Yeah he threaten a lawsuit after his first video on Billy
That dismissive attitude is all bravado - Billy know he seriously screwed up filing that one, because he can't just drop the lawsuit and walk away.
One way or another, Billy and Karl both WILL have their day in court.
And that fact terrifies Mitchell more than anything else.
What do you mean? The deposition in the video clip was for the Twin galaxies lawsuit. (I've watched the whole thing twice. Billy's lies in the deposition are some of his most bonkers ever)
@@Megaritz Yeah? And did you see in the clip where he's counting the lawsuits and he says three several times (almost like he's trying to convince himself) then goes "four, one in Australia." Anyhow, _Karl_ is that one in Australia that he pretended to forget about. We know he's pretending because, come on, this guy has an obsession. He's already in goblin mode all the time, he's one bad makeup job away from becoming the Joker... and not like in a good way I have to specify for those weirdos who idolize the Joker for some reason.
Dude I noticed in the infamous pic of Billy and his sauce empire.... It looks like there's a bottle of tobacco in there and... please Lord... Don't make me have to boycott my favorite hot sauce over this piece of shit.
I think we need a sequel to The King of Kong, but this time it should be a docu-drama.
And completely unironically playing the role of Billy Mitchell should be Peter Dinklage.
Dinklage already played Billy in the movie Pixels
@@AnneHathawayRules Peter played a fairly accurate depiction of Billy, including cheating.
@@americansupervillain4595that was the purpose. FYI, The producer of Pixels WAS the director of King Of Kong.
Who?
No no, they should get Karl Jobst to play him 👌😂
I’ve been fascinated with this story the last few months. I’ve watched Jobst’s and Veritas’ videos more than I care to admit. You bring a new perspective and new information, so great job!
The now infamous “Pac-Man” plaque is a FREAKING ADVERTISEMENT! I had to pause there because I was laughing too hard!
Keep up the great work. I’m off to watch more of your videos.
Billy really has reached beyond a cheater he truly is a villain at this point
This is just my personal opinion but: I personally think that Billy Mitchell is a legitimately competent arcade player who wants you to believe (And perhaps believes himself) that he's a *great* player.
Reaching the killscreens of Pacman and Donkey Kong etc at all is a legitimate achievement, that I believe Billy has accomplished in the past.
I just also 100% believe that he's a lying cheater who cheats at high score competitions and lies about it.
I do think he’s a great player, but he can’t possibly stand not being the _best player_ & doesn’t think he should have to play by the rules he claims to espouse. That & his insufferable bravado & complete inability to admit fault (typical of narcissists) is precisely what makes everyone want to see him take a giant nosedive, even more than he already has. The lawsuits & what happened to Apollo Legend only have increased everyone’s want of that one thousand fold.
Very good players sometimes cheat due to wanting more accolades than they have.
See the many videos on speedrunning cheaters for examples.
@@OnTheThirdDay and are generally much harder to catch, yeah.
There's nothing wrong with being a high-level player who isn't the best. But Billy thinks there is. The way Billy talks about his competitors, like Rick Fothergill and the other Pacman players, is so vile. Billy constantly insults them for not being the very best or first to get the "perfect" score. Billy is terrified to be seen this way himself, so he's built an elaborate network of lies to make himself look amazing.
People who cheat high scores and speedruns are almost always top tier players who use their knowledge of the games to cheat and stay ahead of their rivals.
It's like steroids in Olympic sports, you still need to train and actually be talented at the sport, but it gives you that unfair edge against legitimate contenders.
Great job buddy
The community always loves new Billy content 👏
I can’t get enough of it.. I’m going to miss all the Billy content a couple months after Karl wrecks him on court and everyone moves on..
@Louie I've been wondering for weeks as to why exactly I hated the new AJ Styles's look so much...Until I realize it's because he looks like a shorter bulkier Billy Mitchell.
Would make a killer tag team.
This right here, is the funniest part of all of this. So he's mad that people are saying his records aren't legit, and doesn't want people to think he's cheated, but here's the thing: nobody gives a fuck. I say this as a hardcore fan of speedrunning and video game records myself: this hobby even now is pretty niche and the general public really doesn't care. You know what they do care about, though? Legal conflict, interpersonal drama, and a good old investigative "did he or didn't he do it here's how he did or didn't" CSI style affair. Even my 80 year old mother has heard of this guy, because he popped up in a news article she happened to see, and she doesn't even know what a Donkey Kong is and still calls all video game consoles Nintendos. The whole planet knows this guy is a cheater now, and "Video Game Player of the Century" is basically a colloquialism for "cheater" akin to "Dream Luck", and it is 100% his fault, and he could win every single lawsuit and that wouldn't change. You could call it the Mitchell Effect if it wasn't already coined to Barbara Streisand.
He looks like he should own an evil karate dojo called “Black Ninja…something….something”
Haha yeah i can totally see him using his resturant money to make a terrible vanity film where hes a badass ninja who fucks. A real, black tanktop, Best of the Worst film.
"The hooded no hoods"
If you don't want to wear your tie under the vest, then just don't wear a vest at all.
Dude has the fashion sense of a Jackson Pollock painting 😂
He dressing like he bought his entire wardrobe from his local wallmart
@@MajorOctofuss more like Dollar general 😂
Vests make no sense from the jump, like do your arms get disproportionately hot or??
1:02:33 Billy Mitchell "The King of Plausable Deniability" a title he's truly earned.
i don't know. donald trumps entire political career has hinged on plausible deniability and he might actually make himself king.
We would love to hear about the wonderful world of Todd Togers
Never trust todd
You didn't mention the Japanese guys said they never awarded him any "Gamer of the Century" award, and the whole "you know more than us" conversation never occurred.
He’s given himself that title after playing arcade games in the 80s as if that makes him still relevant in the gaming industry 40 years later. He’s universally known as a cheater and most of us didn’t even know about his existence until he started suing everyone.
But he knows far more about pacman than we know, we have no idea
@@MatthewD999 What about it? They were giving some award related to Pac-Man, I think. The "Gamer of the Century" award never existed.
@@Christobanistan Wasnt asking you.
Yes, you did.
Honestly whatever one might think of this guy I can relate to the part where he's trying to explain how to plug something in.
"He plugged it in."
"How?"
"By plugging it in."
"How did he do that?"
"He took the wires and connected them where they were supposed to go."
"How?"
"BY PLUGGING IT IN."
the most annoying part of the 'defense', is that the bug was present in most mame versions below .116, including the ones released at the times billy supposedly got the records. and they still couldn't produce the full girder along with the finger.
Is that the most annoying part of the "defense"?
I feel like the most annoying part is that it's not even a modicum of a defense, since all it does is to put one branch of MAME into question. Actually, though, MAME is almost irrelevant, except that it helps in clarifying the argument against Billy.
For a disqualification, it's very much sufficient to show that none of the screen transitions match up with the original arcade. Nothing else is needed to prove that he didn't go by the rules. We don't need to identify the hard- and/or software that was used for the violation.
@@Kijinnone bug only got fixed in mame after the evidence was presented to get the scores removed. There are still multiple bugs that need fixing
@@Kijinn You are correct that we do not have to prove he used mame. All we have to prove is that he didn't use a real arcade machine. We aren't required to speculate what he might have used instead. But we have this ready example of what he could have used. People generally claim "he used mame" because mame demonstrates the bug. I cannot prove what he did use precisely, but I can prove what he did not use.
I will not make the claim that literally anyone who has ever touched the mame codebase could do the same, but I will say that more than a few people could demonstrate with a disassembly of the DK source code, a description of exactly how the chips on the arcade board work, and a demonstration of how mame failed to emulate those chips 100% accurately resulted in the bug that proved Billy's run was fake. A few could actually show you oscilloscope traces of what it should look like and reproduce the evidence against Billy frame by frame from those traces.
You'll notice he's been careful not to sue any of the people who could do that. 😉
This was over an hour long and I wasn't bored at all. Liked and subscribed for the good content.
I think that Billy's title is "Video game villain of the universe"
I thought that was the AAA industry?
He is the video game villain ever
He may have gotten away with it if he cut his hair a bit😂
The quality of this video is amazing, especially considering the number of views and subscribers. keep going.
Small clarification for a misunderstanding people watching may have, the monitor has no refreshrate, so the monitor can't be "60Hz". It'll simply display the refreshrate that the game is generating, in the case of Donkey Kong the CRT would be syncing to 60.6Hz.
What monitors do have is a vertical range for sync that it can work within, monitors that aren't sync locked (arcade monitors, or the majority of european TVs) can sync anywhere from somewhere below 50Hz to right around 61Hz at most without going out of sync and displaying an unstable rolling image, the reason for the range is to still stay around 15-16.xx+ kHz (the total freq range) when the vertical line count of the resolution used is taken into account.
CTR monitors can go higher - 56hz ( max displayrate) were considered office monitors and so 60hz - Gamers wanted at least 72hz which worked perfectly with the isdn modem speed making you an aimgod when combined . But i guess the early days had the 56-60 hz range
@@Jkaninteangemittnamn You're talking about PC monitor CRT's which go above 15-16kHz, not arcade monitor CRT's.
No arcade game ran above 60.XHz. (higher kHz 24-31kHz arcade chassis were used for 384-480p, not higher refresh)
@@riggles all correct, and it was not uncommon for arcade boards to run a lower refresh rate to allow for a higher vertical line count, such as the Seibu boards that run around 53Hz.
Same way Sega get the resolution on screen with 24.5KHz displays on the Model 2 by running at around 57Hz, instead of the 60 all the youtubers claim it was.
What a lot of people don't realize is how badly represented arcade game rereleases can be because of this. Arcade Archives on Switch fpr example has Hacha Mecha Fighter, a 55Hz game, play at 60Hz bir with terrible jittery/skipping motion from the mismatch.
We can only hope all future consoles have Variable Refreshrate (VRR) support and that the companies making official re-releases care about this, the general public doesn't really know about this and think that the non-smooth motion is due to the games being old or flawed emulation performance.
There's ways to play emulation with VRR for modern screens (RA and different builds of MAME), but as always, official ways are way behind unofficial ones.
@@riggles all true mate yeah, Daytona on the Model 2 emulator is another example of something similar, force it to the correct refresh and it's good as gold.
The girder finger defense is akin to "Your honor, my client may have been filmed committing the crime on 8 cameras, but this 9th one had a smudge that COULD have looked like him instead, so all other evidence should be discarded"
If billy Mitchell was a pokemon his 4 moveset would be:
- law suit
-lie
-block
-exaggerate
@BrownMan-gg7dx you killed me bruh 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And his additional learnset would be
-Cheat
-Bribe
and a single egg move
-Be good at Donkey Kong (he wasn't bred to know that one)
Billy Mitchell was just a medicore Pac-Man and Donkey Kong player as a teenager before internet existed when it was much easier to pull off cons. He rode it for decades. His fall from grace is the most deserved de-crowning, ever.
It seems that he was, and still is, a top level player. The problem is that even the best players will have bad days (in terms of setting records, almost every day must be a bad day). Instead of accepting that, and letting others occasionally beat him, he lied and cheated. Then, once he started, it was too easy to dig deeper.
As Veritas's video said, cheating doesn't help you get faster times. It helps you get times faster. He has achieved these same scores legitimately, but he did it over a decade later after they were no longer records. And, instead of getting a record every time he played publicly (as he did in his cheating era), it took him years to achieve them.
Not a fan of Mitchell, but be honest, he is far more than a "mediocre" player, like it or not the guy has done "live" games where he was well into "championship" score territory.
He's just not remotely the "best" anymore, (if he ever was).
Just to clarify, although embellished in the King of Kong documentary, the legitimate reason Steve's taped score was removed is because his machine was a "hybrid" cabinet. The directors of the doc state this in the DVD commentary. Sadly, Steve's board contained both Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr on it. There is a scene where they show Steve's cabinet in his garage and there is a VERY carefully placed shadow to block the "Donkey Kong Jr" text on the side of the cabinet. The hybrid boards are MUCH cheaper to acquire that original DK boards. Steve has said the doc is 75 percent embellished and 25 percent of what actually happened. Steve was also well aware that they were coming to inspect the cabinet, he said he was completely unaware of the rule until TG notified him of it. So, it was legitimately removed from the leader board.
Would Steve care to elaborate just which parts of the so-called "documentary" were stolen, fraudulent and defamatory....er....I mean...."embellished"...... and which parts were not? Would Steve care to elaborate on what part of his life ever involved him beating Billy Mitchells 1982 arcade world record that he should be paid life rights to the same? Undocumented scores from the 1980's do not count. I thought Steve Webie tells all in his softball interviews.
I hope Walter Daze was telling the truth when he mentioned Ed CunTingham was in the process of perpetrating another grifting fraud...er...I...mean "documentary". Hopefully such a documentary will contain a prequel to KoK. I just know the entire gaming community, myself and a couple of lawyers in the field of entertainment law would absolutely love to hear a more detailed back story of just how Steve was the first documented player to beat Billy's 1982 arcade world record after it allegedly stood for over 20 years. The two lawyers in the field of entertainment law, who are now fully aware of the true facts behind the matter, are particular eager for more of such "embellished" documentary content.
Do you or Steve know why films contain disclaimers such as "The events depicted in this motion picture have no relation to any real persons living or dead." That Film making idiot Seth Gordon allegedly went to film school so he should know why. If Steve's Flim-Flam movie whores make another fraud documentary depicting Steve as the first documented player to beat Billy's 1982 arcade world record, they will find out why. .They bullshited their way out of it the first time because the statute of limitations expired (this is what happens when you trust Billy Mitchell) . They WILL NOT get away with their grift a second time I can assure you.
"The directors of the doc state this in the DVD commentary....."
The directors of the King of Kong so-called "documentary" are bullshit conmen who don't even know what a documentary is let alone have the mental capacity to be commenting on one. I'd love to ..."embellish"... a Louisville Slugger and a box of roofing nails and "embellish" the money they stole from Tim directly out of their grifting asses.
Yeah, King of Kong's misleading presentation makes it sound almost like the twin galaxies guys criminally broke into Steve's garage, lol
"legitimate reason" is still up for debate. TG actually accepted Wiebe's earlier scores despite some folks in their circle like (I believe) Darren Harris knowing it was a DDK ("Double Donkey Kong") board. Only after Wiebe started putting up WR-caliber scores did the old TG crew start making a big fuss about how it wasn't the same. And in retrospect, it was all wagon-circling - if it had benefitted their pal Billy to say DDK was equivalent to original, they would have argued that instead. A few years ago, Donkey Kong Forum lifted the prohibition on DDK boards, and allow them alongside the originals, with the caveat that those scores can be removed if any significant difference between DDK and original is discovered at a later date.
@@ersatz_cats In case you haven't figured it out yet , the so-called 'documentary was scripted and staged. Twin Galaxies covering up other peoples sores to favor Billy makes no sense especially when the Sczerby score was allowed to stay as #1 on the scoreboard for three years with out a peep. Only When the topic matter became of marketable value did the Sczerby score suddenly become 'constantly disputed and impossible to verify therefore merited no inclusion in the film'. This was a blatant lie.
Five years of time, expense and resources wasted analyzing scores that Billy never actually played from a so-called 'documentary' that wasn't even real.😄 Suckers. Steve Weibe was also in on the grift. Even if Steve's lost performance was retroactively accepted as arcade when no original hardware was used, the Sczerby score still predates Steve's 'lost' score by over one year anyway. Again, Steve never beat Billys 1982 arcade score as seen in the so-called 'documentary', Tim did and the film makers tried to cover this up so their pal Steve could be awarded the credit.
DKF forum would credit Steve with a lost WR with just a score written in crayon on the back of a cocktail napkin.
Retroactively awarding Steve arcade credit for not playing on original hardware while harassing Billy for the same reason is just ignorant. Good thing Billy and his scammer lawyers are better liars and scammers otherwise they would figure this out and really have a solid case.
Hey! Great stuff. Yes yes and yes on any more retro gaming content. This stuff especially. Bring on the Rogers stuff or whatever else you got. Great channel and I'm here.
Starting my Roger’s research today 🕵🏼 stay tuned!
Excited for the Rodgers stuff. Honestly, considering in king of Kong one guy admitted half of those dudes in the 80s faked so many of their scores, we need more videos talking about these dudes!
33:39 The immaculate conception of the Donkey Kong board done with no tools, because our man who installed it is Fricken Inspector Gadget himself and has all the tools available inside his fingers. Go Go Gadget finer, job done. 👍
New subscriber here! I've never heard Rodgers' story, so I'm definitely going to ask for that video!
SUBBED! This channel deserves more! Great job on the video. I'm sure subs will be flooding in soon
Intriguing and well research. I appreciate the lack of break neck mid-sentence edits. Good luck in your YouTubing career.
Gotta love that the place where these guys compete in old games and fight over the ethics of high scores, and how the old games are the true test of skill, while they are all cheating, is called Boomers.
That is hilarious… I never made that connection.
Well, it wouldn't be fair if I didnt state truth. Boomers was more a go-cart center with the largest wooden roller coaster in florida. Place had been there for over 50 years under the name GrandPrix race-a-rama. Sold in mid 2000s, renamed boomers. True is that it wasn't a place where classic game competitions were held. It simply was close to BMs place. So it was perfect place to stage that boomers score. Robert's arcade shop wasnt far. And Todd happen to been in area cause he was in town buying spiders. FYI, the boomer video showing the bag Todd had with the "video", had no videos. It was full of shredded paper and spiders.
@@cashe18 I’m glad you gave Boomers pretty accurate recognition. The original Grand Prix lasted around 1972 to 1986, then they moved to the location of the former Malibu Grand Prix in Dania to open the store that later became Boomers. It was already Boomers by 2000, and the roller coaster was operated separately by one of the Race O Rama founders but he had synergy with Boomers so I guess people just consider it an attraction of Boomers since they were neighbors. The original Boomers is a little more north in Boca.
@@PasqAnimatronics thank you for the added details.
Billy part 2 please
Nakamura was the president of Namco at the time.
PacMan's creator was Toru Iwatani.
No, I don't know why William defers to the former when discussing PacMan.
You did a fantastic job with this video! Subbed and can't wait to see what else you do!
I couldn't hold myself at the place called "Boomer's Arcade!" 😂
I love how Billy Mitchell was portrayed in pixels.
So the fire blaster is Billy ???? I always wondered who it was supposed to be made after 😂😂😂😂 they really got a little person to play billy 😂😂😂
He probably cried the first time he saw that 😂😂😂😂
I'm sure glad nothing like this happens in modern video game records and speedruns! Good video, you can't go wrong shredding on the Hot Sauce King of wherever he's from. He's a genuinely skilled player of many games, he's just such a sleazeball of a human being. Donkey Kong deserves a better champion. I'm gonna go play some Tropical Freeze now.
Good luck with the channel.
25:48 Also, Tim was told by Twin Galaxies back in 1999 that as a requirement, a video submission must contain surrounding meta data such as the player visibly seen at the game itself and a pan shot of the surrounding area after completion. Do you know what this means? It means......NO... DIRECT....FEED....RECORDINGS.... WERE.....ALLOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Billy Mitchell cannot only NOT be seen playing the game, he can't be heard either and there is no pan shot of the surrounding area nor sound of any kind, game or otherwise. Billy Mitchell can't be seen playing anything. Billys tapes should have been disqualified instantly and never accepted to begin with. There was also a submission form to be filled out to accompany the video submission. Tim followed these rules and formalities but Billy did not.
I am amazed that you only have 2k subscribers. This video is so professional made you deserve many more subscribers.
Well done!
I’ve seen several videos on Billy and you did a great job of hitting all the points while still giving it your take. Well done.
I was in the Navy in 1982, we pulled into Fort Lauderdale, We were in on the 4th of July and in when they were filming, "Spring Break". This was 1982, I was hitting the local arcades and ran into a particularly Annoying person. He Looked and sounded like Billy. He explained how Defender and Stargate were really easy and his favorites were so much better. He could not even come close to me in Defender and Stargate, but he insisted he was a GOD of Arcades. I had met many Rubes who though the were the best, He did no impress. Arrogant, and Idnorant!
I forgot to say this earlier, but outstanding video! A very entertaining breakdown of the whole situation.
I do want to say, regarding the "girder finger" you reference at about the one-hour mark, that's not the same phenomenon as the contested girder finger at all. It's just rolling shutter causing a diagonal tear across the screen, which happens to erase one of the girder's diagonals in a weird looking way.
Never has a man lied so much to achieve so little…
That’s a narcissistic for you
I don't thumb up that many videos anymore. At least, I don't like to. I've watched SOOOO many videos since I'm on TH-cam and you can only save 5000 videos you liked.
But this video deserves 2 thumbs up.
2 things, I have to point out, that I found EXTREMELY positive: 1) finally a FEMALE voice telling the story 🤤
And 2) NO ADS!! AT ALL!!
Like, I was shocked, this was SUCH a smooth watch, I'll definitely watch it again. And again..
And maybe another time....
Much love and appreciation!
😘😘😘🫶🫶🫶
You’re doing amazing for being so new to the scene. Keep it up!
An hour long video about Silly Bitchell? #Subscribed
Good 😂✌🏻
I know, only an hour!! Surprised she managed to fit all the lunacy in.
Ohhhhh Biillllllyyyyy
@@therealavolpe are you referencing a certain whale named Krilly? I hope so and it isn’t just Cable Guy. 😂
Exactly!
This story is so absurd, it’s literally fascinating. It’s just so insane, it’s almost hard to believe. And I’ve seen almost every Billy Mitchell video on TH-cam. This is probably my second or third favourite.
Billy’s hairstyle is hilarious.
Underrated comment
As a gen xer..nothing screams loser to my generation than wearing the same clothes and hairstyle and listening to the same music as one did in the 80s..
Billy's hairstyle is basically "we have Malon at home" but attached to a cheating con man rather than a cute ranch girl.
Looking like a lego detachable
I am personally convinced that he is wearing a wig. Every time I see him, I imagine him being bold.
I’ve met a GameStop manager
They couldn’t clean a toilet
*wouldn't
@@TheAaronFreeze *either
That's why the gamestop Billy was a part time cashier at had a disgusting bathroom.
They also certified the Donkey Kong motherboard as certified "new".
Fun fact: Brian Kuh - the guy from King of Kong who went around telling everyone there's a Donkey Kong kill screen coming up - for a while, he was managing a GameStop in New Hampshire. (Even though he claimed to be "retired".) For a while, those of us working on this case had a theory that Brian was the unnamed "GameStop manager" who set up the mortgage brokers machine all along, until Billy's side eventually had to identify Josh Ryan during discovery.
"If you haven't heard of this guy before, you're in for a treat."
Nailed it! The tea is delicious.
Hey, it's that one guy from Regular Show.
Gary Bobby Ferguson
Liked, subscribed, and looking forward to more videos from you in the future!!
Good luck. I hope your channel takes off.
Gotta love when Billy acts like knowing more about Pac Man is some huge feat, when most speed runners today know far more about the games they play then the game creators. It's ridiculous how much people as a group figure out about games like Mario 64 or Super Metroid.
The Japanese say none of it ever happened, including the gamer of the century award, which they never even heard of.
Wonderful. Great job in explaining all this. Please make another video once this has been properly followed up and he has had everything "clarified" once and for all. I think we all hope this is sooner rather than later.
His story about the designer of Pacman saying you know far more about Pacman than I do, if it even DID happen, reveals his lack of understanding about Japanese or east asian cultures in general. Compliments that lower the speaker and prop up the person they are talking to - and generally being humble are VERY typical - and in response you're not supposed to run and BRAG about it. You're supposed to sidestep the compliment and be humble about it in return.
Anyway, well made! Subscribed!
Japan- I want you to feel good about engaging over similar interest.
American- I’m the greatest human EVARrrrr!!!
😂
Awesome video.
More power to you and your channel.
This dude looks like a cheap Vegas magician, but a very cocky one
OMG, you nailed it, thats 100% it.
Jon! Sorry to hear what you're going through - glad to hear you're on the mend! Your videos have played a big part in my re-kindled interest and love of retro gaming - particularly Atari 2600 gaming 😁.
Awesome Video...
This is really my first direct contact with Billy connected content. Of course, growing up in the 80s and 90s video game mantra I'd heard of him but really knew nothing much other than the mythic perfect Pac Man. Watching his taped interview, he's so clearly full of $#!+ he squeaks. How that interviewer didn't need an emergency shower, mid-conversation, I'll never know. Excellent content. Fascinating.
Hi. Subbed.
Is there a way for you to change settings so that captions are automatically generated. It makes watching the video easier. (Thanks)
I like pausing to read the documents you show on the screen.
I have been following the recent lawsuits related to this person so I appreciate the background. It is in my opinion sad to see someone who seemed to be doing so great end up publicly shamed.
Hey thanks for the sub! I’m looking into the captions for you... For some reason I can’t do automatically generated but I’ll work on trying to manually put them in today!
That was an outstanding video… entertaining and comprehensive… thank you, subscribed and thumbs up for more Billy Mitchell drama
Subbed, Liked and left a Comment. Great channel!
I subbed in hopes of a part 2 but I'm sure your other vids are just as good
One in Australia. Lol!
Yeh it’s funny he almost forgot the one that’s going to fold him over backwards and actually make him pay for a change.
an absolute legend of a guy
Karl Jobst
The risk is in the tabletop RPG space there is a guy who got a Something Awful Rpg forum mod to basically jump through hoops and publicly apologize for.. something using Aus laws. A guy that probably sucks more than Billy Mitchell but tabletop RPGs are even lower stakes nobody cares about even so this loser gets away with being a butthurt little baby who needs his butt kissed every few seconds. In the world of RPGs the guy is utterly loathed.
This was particularly more entertaining than I expected.
Great channel well researched.
Man. This video & research is incredible. Shoutout to the girl that was narrating it. Excellent work!
This should've been the unofficial sequel to King of Kong. Well done young lady
You won't see an official sequel to The King of Kong because Tim Sczerby put the kibosh on that sequel ever being made. Ever wonder why films have disclaimers such as........"The events depicted in this motion picture are fictitious and have no relation to person(s) living or dead"?....... The King of Kong Film makers will NOT re-boot that King of Kong subject matter a second time considering it is proven to be directly based on an achievement Tim Initially performed and not the film makers "pal" Steve Webie. There is no argument here. Ever wonder why a sequel to such a popular documentary was never made in the last 17 years? Think about that one.😉
Since the King of Kong so-called "documentary" subject matter was proven to have been stolen and directly based on Tim Sczerby's achievement, any further exploitation of that subject matter is of no further use to the film makers and now dead to them . Why no sequel to the acclaimed so-called "documentary' after 17 years? Gee.....🤔......I wonder why. 🤔.......😝.The best they could do was to con-coct the "soap-opera drama" lawsuit scandal involving Billy allegedly cheating that has been grifting the community the last 5 years.
@@marymcmanus1877 chill dude relax lol it was just a compliment
@@marymcmanus1877 are you billy mitchell
The editing is amazing! Love this video, Thanks!
awesome work
It sucks.... Billy is/was a very good player. He could have just banked on that... one of the earliest video game hardcore players.
I believe he has made his living by touring as the best ever, so maybe he thinks he can't afford to lose that reputation. I'm wondering if he still has many fans after so much video of him looking like a fairly unpleasant person has been released.
At this point most people see Billy as a psychopath
That's tough talk for someone in bullying-frivolous-lawsuit-filing range.
Jokes aside, great video. You earned a new sub.
Imagine living a life where your big claim to fame….your whole world revolves around “I’m good at Donkey Kong”. Meanwhile there are humble soldiers out there somewhere dodging bullets whizzing by their heads and never look or want any prestige.
THIS!
Betas gonna bait.
Nothing glorious about being a brainless tool
OMG is that Billy Mitchell? The regionally famous hot sauce guy!
Note: I AM NOT saying Billy isn't lying, however, if you read the portions of the testimony that describe what is needed to record the footage, he is specifically mentioning something that can transmit a signal a Windows PC can decode and stream. It is possible the device Billy thinks he saw was a simple pre-wired RF adaptor to send an analog signal to a VCR, DVR, or side monitor. It would go between the motherboard and cable that goes to the cabinet's monitor. It is more likely that what he saw however, was the monitor control board, which would already be in the cabinet. Basically the signal splitter and booster would plug into the mobo [with the connectors already installed, what the soldering , crimping and wire stripping is referring to] and the cabinet monitor and any external RF capable device.
This comes from looking at the stills of the mobo and experience assembling [admittedly modern] Arcade 1-up cabinets for a friend. Also from 20 years in live music production as a lighting technician and electrician [I have had to make similar cables]. Also from attempting to record playing NES as a kid in the 90s.
He is still lying, but I'm just giving an example of what he could have seen.
I thought something similar. The deposition sounded a bit like two people with slightly different ideas about the question agreeing to their own version.
The deposition is hung up on the claim that the Game Stop guy personally installed the capture hardware,, at the venue, in addition to installing the main board. Billy sounds like he's unaware that he appears to have made that claim, and that detail is what he's being drilled on.
From what I see here, the possibility that the capture hardware (whatever it was) had already been installed in the cabinet was not ruled out. It wasn't super clear if the capture hardware needed to connect to the main board in any way that couldn't be accomplished by splicing into the other harnesses and boards in the cabinet. Wouldn't soldering bits to a main board disqualify it as an unmodified board? Are there places you need to micro-clip a wire to a chip leg or something non-intuitive like that?
@@jimstanley_49 +All the connections would be made post-board, since for maintenance and transport, like all other commercial computer components, the arcade mobo uses standard connectors, mainly ribbon [like the type that connects the screen in a laptop, if you have ever opened your laptop] or multiplex [the standard "wiring harness" connector inside a desktop and literally and other non-micro electronics].
in either case, the device would have its own ports for whatever connector the mobo needs, and whatever connectors the device it converts to needs.
video adaptors are a perfect example, as a capture device is a video adaptor with a splitter. The input side has legacy/specialist connectors [RF/Coax, component, VGA, DVI, SDI], and the output side has one or more copies of modern or common video ports [HDMI, ethernet, etc].
a video card or capture card [like those mentioned in the deposition] is an example of such a device that is installed directly onto the mobo, without soldering, that changes the output signal or splits it]. Mine is sitting in a standard PCI slot on the mobo and is sending signal to 1 monitor via HDMI and the other via DVI.
But to your final question, yes, soldering anything to the mobo, or potentially changing jumper settings would make it "not original hardware"
the jumpers are an edge case, they are small black sleeves that go over the tiny pins on the mobo, usually near the cache and processor, that change act as switches, usually doing things like clearing the cache, resetting the BIOS to factory, or bypassing boot devices before the keyboard is initiated. changing them would alter the way the system functions, but not in a cheaty way, they are mainly used for maintenance.
Noooo
Excellent video for such a small channel. Subscribed!!
Honestly I think the icing on the cake is that he is still doing it. He is STILL filing lawsuits. Everybody knows. But he is still doing it.
Insane.
At this point what is he trying to a do he’s still trying to lie and manipulate even when he’s called out for it
He's painted himself in a corner and it's the only thing he can do
Yesss I've been waiting for a new BMitch doc! I come back to this story every few years lol it's just too fun
If billy mitchell is a gamer, raid:shadow legends is a game
I mean, the thing is, he really IS a very, very good gamer. At his peak he was certainly top 5 in the world at least for PacMan, DK, DKJr., etc. But apparently that just wasn't good enough for his ego.
@@tombernard7483 i meant in terms of "being full of s***", pay-to-win-scamming, and over-advertising themselves. the graphics of said game looking great doesn't make it a "good" game
@@LassetUnsSpielen your comment doesnt make sense on any level.
@tombernard7483
How do we know he's good at this point?
Very professional video…may I make a suggestion for a video?
Arthur Knight/nicolas Rossi/ Nicolas. Alaverdian…
Wait till you go down that rabbit hole
You’ll have to wait until the Karl lawsuit’s dust settles before a part 2. I have a feeling this part is going to be comedy gold.
Oh I’m just waiting for how he justifies suing people over video game records and cheer for someone’s death cause they called him a cheater
Excellent video. I would love a part 2.
I wish you luck with your lawsuit.
When Karl wins billy will be introduced to the penalties of a SLAAP suit. Especially in Australia. He will have to pay for every single expense karl incurred.
Very entertaining! And YES any other videos on the subject, him, his partners in crime, would be fun! Thank you
Did you check out my Todd Roger’s video? You might like it if you liked this one!
@@1FallenStar Ah! Tomorrow I will for sure! Thx great job
Well researched and enjoyable. Would love another Todd Togers video as well.
Chuck Norris was asked how he got so tough.
He said, "I have no idea. Ask Billy Mitchell."
It's abhorrent and unforgivable what he did and what happened to Apollo Legend rip.
Yes
Circle of Protection around the Fallen Stars channel from Homeboy Billy's lawyers. So mote it be.
40:00 sorry Billy, but the STOCK joystick is black with a red ball on the top. It has never been black. This makes me question if he's EVER played on a stock Donkey Kong Machine.
The way he answered he was 100% sure. Changing the Joystick wouldn't modify the machine or gameplay in anyway. I would have just said "It doesn't matter."
For some reason I read the thumbnail as "Goon-man" and it really made me laugh
Anyway, banger vid fam
Thank you so much!
I said I did it with Billy's mom, and he didn't sue. Everyone knows how easy his mom is, so of course he didn't sue.
The hair alone deserves its own interview!!! 😂😂🤣🤣
This man 70 years old and still caring about a game score...
It's the only thing he's ever achieved in his life.
Lol
20:08 ‐ (narrator feigning disappointment) "Oh.."
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣