Toranaga Cries Over His Best Friend and Son Death | Shōgun Episode 8 Ending Scene
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 เม.ย. 2024
- Shogun Samurai TV Series
Toranaga cries after Hiromatsu commit seppuku and Nagakado got killed, Toranaga visits his son funeral. Kashigi Yabushige and John Anjin became best friend.
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Toranga really is the embodiment of a well-intentioned extremist. and more amazing is how utterly filled with guilt he has over the deaths of people he cares for, but knows he's come to far to stop.
His real life counterpart, Tokugawa Ieyasu, also experienced a rather similar tragedy like this but much earlier during his reign as a daimyo of Mikawa.
He was lured outside away from his castle by another powerful daimyo, Takeda Shingen, and take the battle on the open field, got ambushed and much of his army was decimated in the battle of Mikatagahara.
He got traumatized to the point he almost give up ruling, but his retainers convinced him not to do so. Because of this tragedy, he kinda changed a bit and became a man most people nowadays know, a shrewd and cunning politician and also a capable general
I disagree whole heartedly. Torunaga is not an extremist. In fact he is quite the opposite, perhaps to a fault. Ishido is the extremist. Torunaga is allowing power to come to him by the actions of others, not by his own. He observes then calculates. He allows people to only see his weaknesses, which in fact, exposes the extremism of others.
@@joes622 Well said
@joes622 The last episode says you are wrong. Toranaga wanted to be shogun the whole time. He was playing everyone like a pawn and he sacrificed the lives of other so he could amass power.
So much emotional power in a scene of sadness yet serenity. End to end this cast is spectacular!
What people fail to understand is that Toranaga (Tokugawa) was extremely ruthless and power hungry to the point that he sacrificed friends and family in order to achieve the ultimate power. If you read the actual Japanese history, he did much worse. He had his wife and son murdered in order to prove his loyalty to Nobunaga . Supported Nobunaga against the destruction of the Takeda clan who were once his allies. There is also a theory that he conspired and supported Mitsuhide in the coup against Oda Nobunaga as an act of revenge. He Manipulated and supported Hideyoshi in defeating the Hojo clan in which he was gifted all their land, eventually giving him the resources to assemble a strong army. He also did not support Hideyoshi's failed invasion of Korea and was able to sustain his army which would in turn give him an edge for the civil war that was yet to come after Hideoshi's death. He was really a mastermind in real life.
"He had his wife and son murdered in order to prove his loyalty to Nobunaga . " -- That part of history is more confusing. You need to remember that is a period which sons can/often overthrow their fathers. Takeda Shingen for example staged and overthrew his father. One version is that Tokugawa Ieyasu's elder son was staging and tried to overthrew his father, but the plan was discovered and stopped. In this version, it wasn't so much that Nobunaga ordered Tokugawa to kill his son, but rather Tokugawa Ieyasu was informing Nobunga that he would kill his son.
Hiromatsu death was so sad i love that old man
What everyone is missing how beautiful these haikus are. Amazing writing.
Kinda an inappropriate time to be having a haiku rap battle though toranaga
A mind that understands little but overflows with pride,
A head with a mouth that speaks about mountains and winter,
A foolish tot that drowned himself in the river of tears of his own creation!
@@bentooreo9849
@@bentooreo9849 what better time is there?
It is not haiku.
It is renga.
It's not haiku, it's a script
Lol everyone was shitting on his son’s pointless death last eps and it turned out to be critical for his family’s survival… history is shaped by fools and geniuses alike….
So true
I agree i am one of them, the moment they said he needed like 40 days to mourn i was like shit that gave him a huge amount of time
not a pointless death but it was kinda lame how he died. Like how you gonna ambush somebody and slip on a rock and die :I
@@Astelchhappens a lot
@@Astelchpeople die in stupid ways all the time
最後のシーン、一人きりになった虎永様は元気そうです。
敵を欺くには、まず味方から。
"Are you prepared to go all the way, Alexis?"
"yes, I am prepared to go all the way, my good admiral"
I know all about the Zerg. We've all seen the tapes a hundred times.
Good I knew I could count on you.
Oh my god I didn't expect a Starcraft reference here, thank you
Wasnt expecting a brood war reference but there it is
BaTtLecRuiSer OpeRaTiOnAL
Man the first season was so good
Amazing ❤❤
I cryed in this escene
Looking at the camera was something!
Toranaga is the real villain in this show he manipulates people and it seems Lady Ochiba and the Madam are the only one who can see it.
Everybody is trying to manipulate everybody else here. But only toranaga is on the path to success.🤣
There are no heros or villains, simply humans. Both good and evil all wrapped up in one greasy flesh bag of bones and water.
Wait hold up, just because he manipulates he's the villain? People are literally beheading one another in the show and you declare the one who manipulates his rivals; the villain. 🤔
There is no good guy, especially during the sengoku jidai period when loyalties were shifting from day to day and every day could be your last. Toranaga understood how to plan, learning by the previous lords. Also ispired by history, Tokugawa clan was a small clan surrounded by powerful clans, yet thru patience and planing he came on top
Got his son killed , his best friend and a daughter figure killed for what ? Taranga is pure evil
Sanada's sad acting is the best apart from his sad acting in the film Railway Man
Thanos soul stone payment samurai style
2:30 Aw 😊
Lady Ochoa will only turn if Ishido kills Mariko
Who the fucks lady ochoa lmao
So was the sons death part of the plan or just an accident that he used to his advantage.
the latter
@@VisualDesigner86 I've been wondering the same thing for 9 days. You're sure? I'm buying it, I just don't know, no familiarity with the source. The layers are pretty thick. It's so damn good.
@@jcarry5214 He couldn't possibly plan for his son to slip on wet rock and kill himself. Toranaga is superb politician, he needs time and his stupid son's death gave him 40 day of mourning to prepare. Hiromatsu did the same, albeit knowingly - they both knew there's Ishido's spy in Toranaga court. Hiromatsu doing all this theatre and killing himself was just a charade for the spy to inform lord Ishido that Toranaga really and honestly wants to give up.
@@PrzybyszzMatplanety maybe not a rock but a misguided suicide attack that maybe he wasn’t supposed to survive. I didn’t think he planned the rock, jfc, just that maybe he’d told his son he needed more time. That plan was obviously pointless and shortsighted, even for that idiot son of his. Stupid enough that it seemed like a setup. Maybe not, I’m just saying it crossed my mind.
@@jcarry5214Why would he plan his own son to die lol
Fuji is the spy, she is ishidos concubine
how do you know?
Not going to matter when toranaga mops the floor with ishida in the main battle, so much so that practically all flip sides mid battle.......at least historically
Historically the battle of Sekigahara and the siege of Osaka are separate events
Illogical people😂😂
The man sacrifices his son, and close friend like chess pieces what a man.
No he didn't sacrifice neither one, he didn't cause his son to accidentally kill himself and he didn't force his right hand man to commit suicide.