I think history will show that this is one of the greatest operas and Vickers, clearly, is one of the best tenors - ever. I don't understand why this opera and this artist are not covered and referenced more often.. Spectacular.
Walker I couldn’t agree more. Vickers was an immense artist. Even at a time when there was no shortage of unique singers with remarkable abilities, Vickers was unique.
I saw Vickers perform the role (Moshinsky production) at Covent Garden in 1975. I greatly admire Vickers as a singer and his assumption of the role was certainly compelling (I still remember the shivers down my spine when he screamed "... only the cliff", towards the end of the pub scene!). His vocal style and pacing are idiosyncratic, of course, and takes some getting used to if one is used to the Britten recording. I'm still not totally convinced of some parts of his interpretation. The extremely slowness of "The Great Bear" for example has always smacked of self-indulgence, eschewing the lyricism that should define Grimes's inner self. I was studying with Pears at the time and at a lesson the next day, I said I had seen "Grimes" the previous evening. His reply was an unusually cold "Ben doesn't like it!"
Awesome reference to Marc Andre Hamelin at 05:50! It's incredible to think of two giant artists working together, one at the beginning of their careers and one towards the end of his...
It’s interesting that he wouldn’t say plainly what he felt about Grimes and Britten. “They didn’t understand the greatest of [the opera]” is quite an interesting statement. I wish he had shared what was behind that
Britten wrote the opera for his lover, tenor Peter Pears, at a time when homosexuals were persecuted (and prosecuted) in the UK. The opera was meant to be a metaphor for the rejection of homosexuals at that time from society. As Vickers said, they were successful in that endeavour. However, when the opera was revived in 1967 at the Met, Tyrone Guthrie, and Vickers, came to the conclusion that the genius of Peter Grimes was/is that it is an in depth revelation of in a universal sense of rejection and unrequited love. The genius lay in the universality of the message. At the end of his Career, Vickers toyed with the idea of portraying Grimes as a black man in a white fishing village. Would have been very interesting, to say the least.
@@kymanthony6098 to me Vickers and Guthrie absolutely misunderstood the opera if they thought it was about unrequited love and rejection out of the context of a society
@@kymanthony6098for me it feels like he’s saying, “if this opera is about a queer subject, it’s not as great of an opera, I have to make it better than it is, I have to change it by my performance.” He thinks greatness is to try to make it a Verdi or Wagner opera - dissolving the distinctness of the piece into the melting pot of the so-called “masterpiece”
I think history will show that this is one of the greatest operas and Vickers, clearly, is one of the best tenors - ever. I don't understand why this opera and this artist are not covered and referenced more often.. Spectacular.
Walker I couldn’t agree more. Vickers was an immense artist. Even at a time when there was no shortage of unique singers with remarkable abilities, Vickers was unique.
I saw Vickers perform the role (Moshinsky production) at Covent Garden in 1975. I greatly admire Vickers as a singer and his assumption of the role was certainly compelling (I still remember the shivers down my spine when he screamed "... only the cliff", towards the end of the pub scene!). His vocal style and pacing are idiosyncratic, of course, and takes some getting used to if one is used to the Britten recording. I'm still not totally convinced of some parts of his interpretation. The extremely slowness of "The Great Bear" for example has always smacked of self-indulgence, eschewing the lyricism that should define Grimes's inner self. I was studying with Pears at the time and at a lesson the next day, I said I had seen "Grimes" the previous evening. His reply was an unusually cold "Ben doesn't like it!"
Awesome reference to Marc Andre Hamelin at 05:50! It's incredible to think of two giant artists working together, one at the beginning of their careers and one towards the end of his...
The Greatest Grimes !!!!
It’s interesting that he wouldn’t say plainly what he felt about Grimes and Britten. “They didn’t understand the greatest of [the opera]” is quite an interesting statement. I wish he had shared what was behind that
Britten wrote the opera for his lover, tenor Peter Pears, at a time when homosexuals were persecuted (and prosecuted) in the UK. The opera was meant to be a metaphor for the rejection of homosexuals at that time from society. As Vickers said, they were successful in that endeavour. However, when the opera was revived in 1967 at the Met, Tyrone Guthrie, and Vickers, came to the conclusion that the genius of Peter Grimes was/is that it is an in depth revelation of in a universal sense of rejection and unrequited love. The genius lay in the universality of the message. At the end of his Career, Vickers toyed with the idea of portraying Grimes as a black man in a white fishing village. Would have been very interesting, to say the least.
@@kymanthony6098 to me Vickers and Guthrie absolutely misunderstood the opera if they thought it was about unrequited love and rejection out of the context of a society
@@kymanthony6098for me it feels like he’s saying, “if this opera is about a queer subject, it’s not as great of an opera, I have to make it better than it is, I have to change it by my performance.” He thinks greatness is to try to make it a Verdi or Wagner opera - dissolving the distinctness of the piece into the melting pot of the so-called “masterpiece”