I can't wait to watch this. I recognized Jeff the second I saw him at the start. I knew Jeff a little and my best friend knew him well. Jeff's dad was a teacher and baseball coach at our high school during the time he was drafted. There was a lot going on and the truth never made it to the media. Not sure if it will mention it but Jeff had a twin brother, he was a good guy. His dad never let a day go by without talking about Jeff. Kind of an annoying guy. Plus, he was short, bald and chubby. No idea where the boys got their size and athletic ability.
Okay, just watched it and here is what I'll add. They were right about his family. His dad was always talking shit about the team and media and made non-stop excuses for Jeff. I only met him a fee times, mostly when he would come to baseball practice with his dad. His dad was the coach but Jeff would jump in and coach a little too. I think he also played baseball in high school. My best friend was one of the best pitchers in the state of Indiana but he would play along with Jeff's suggestions. He and Jeff hit it off and talked fairly often. During the time Jeff wasn't showing up for camp, he called my friend and they talked for 30 minutes while I was sitting there. Jeff said he wasn't coming to camp because he had been partying in Miami and couldn't pass a piss test. Pretty sure he just meant weed but who knows. The last time I saw him was right before he was traded to Atlanta. Jeff's dad invited my friend and I to go to the Colts game with him. By this time, Jeff was ready to go. He had been getting shit on pretty much the whole time with the Colts. We talked to him for maybe 2 minutes before the game but that's the last time I saw him. Now, the sacks definitely weren't all Jeff's fault. The Colts had a terrible offensive line forever. Even when Peyton Manning got there, he was getting destroyed for his first few seasons. I grew up and spent 46 years in Indianapolis and was lucky to meet a lot of Colts players. After high school I worked for a small lawn care company. The owner grew up with and was best friends with Jim Irsay. We took care of all the Irsay family's properties, Robert's(original owner and Jim's dad), Jim's and his stepmom's horse farm. We took care of the practice facility and practice field at Eagle Creek too. That's how I met a lot of players. If they were practicing, we would hang out on the sidelines and wait for them to finish. I took care of a lot of the player's houses too. At Tony Siragusa's house once and went in his backyard and there must have been 200 beer cans all over the deck and in the yard. He wasn't home but we thought it was funny. Went into Harbaugh's backyard early one morning and he was sitting at the kitchen table with his kids eating cereal in his boxers. Just waved and kept eating. LOL As for Jeff, I think he was a little spoiled and had a lot of people gassing him up a little too much. He could definitely be a jerk but wasn't a total asshole. Great arm but never developed the rest of his game.
I hate it when family gets in the middle of teams and talks to the media. I got the same impressions of Jeff being spoiled and thinking he was great. But honestly his arm was great so I guess I understand how and why he was like that. Thank you for sharing your experience.
@@Out-Of-Service For a minute, that story reminded me of the movie Dazed and Confused with the football camp/drug test issues, lol but you provided an insightful look into the exact subject matter of the video. I prefer reading your story than the video of mostly things I already knew, so thank you Sir.
Seeing the title my first thought was Ryan Leaf, but I saw Jeff George's mug. The truth is Leaf's career was too short to even make a substantial video.
Ryan Leaf is an analyst who appears regularly on Good Morning Football the NFL morning show. The first time I saw him it was clear he was a changed man---people are quite different between the age of 22 and 48(?)--that and he was very funny and engaging and mature--not at all the person we saw is his first two years. More importantly, he is one of the best technical analysts I have heard with regard to football knowledge and insight (which I sure he wish he had all of when he was a young draftee). Check it out--he is really good. Jeff George? I don't know where he is, but I would guess that since he must be close to 50 or more, that he is a different human.
Would love to see you guys react to Tom Aspinall, the current interim UFC HW champ. Once in a lifetime talent and an insanely gifted athlete. He's also from Manchester btw
I played against him in high school. I @ North Central and yes he was an a-hole. His arm strength however…phenomenal. I guarded his favorite target Kip Koonce in three games and he said George’s throws were very difficult to catch even with gloves.
I'm from Indianapolis and got Jeff George's autograph when I was just a baby. My dad told him I was going to be a QB when I grew up, he [apparently] said "play baseball instead, kid. You'll make more money and work half as hard" 😂😂 he was quite the character. 5points is right, though. George had all kinds of talent, the Colts were an absolute shitshow during much of the 80s and 90s. It was no place for a young, raw, immature QB to develop properly. He had several decent seasons later in his career, he just never stuck with a team for too long. You can only go so far with a guy like that as your QB, he kind of has to be a leader.
The Colts traded among others Chris Hinton to draft Jeff George. Chris Hinton is the player they got from Denver in 1983 in the famous John Elway trade. I think Hinton was the last remaining Baltimore Colt on the roster. Guys the Colts passed up that draft: Emmitt Smith, John Randle, Shannon Sharpe, Cortez Kennedy, Junior Seau, LeRoy Butler. In their defense, they needed a QB and it was a horrible QB draft. Neil O'Donnell went in the 3rd round and Scott Mitchell went in the 4th. Other than that the QB's that year were all kinds of garbage. Andre Ware was the other 1st round QB, and he was a major league bust. (Put up huge numbers at the University of Houston, but he was a product of their run-and-shoot offense and wasn't any good at all as an NFL QB). You can argue that George was the best QB of that draft even though O'Donnell did make it to a Super Bowl and George was a basketcase his whole career.
Colts have the honor of drafting the two most hated QBs, George for his personality as a player and Art Schlichter for being a despicable human off the field.
Jeff George had one the strongest arms, and he could throw 50 yard bomb on a rope without any effort. For evidence look at the 1999 Vikings NFL season when he was throwing to Carter and Moss.
Jeff George was simply a bad locker room guy. All quarterbacks are expected to be leaders on their teams because they're the ones that make the plays. Jeff had no leadership skills whatsoever and never held himself accountable when things went wrong. That's why he was hated so much.
It is a damned shame about Jeff George. He had tremendous arm talent, one of the best I have seen come into the league--but he was a head case when he was young.
I saw him throw when he was trying to get back in the nfl. Great deep ball and the accuracy was unreal. Of course thats without a defense though. To me I saw a lot of jeff george in jay cutler. So much potential with both and both really werent as bad as they were made out to be personality wise.
Not trying to burst Daz's bubble on all things "American Football", but Cousins ain't it... Objectively I'd say Josh Allen represents what most people view as the ideal modern NFL QB, but as someone who loved both well before they were drafted I'd say him and Lamar is really the barometer for that conversation. Don't let Dave's weird video selections on what America is/isn't turn you into John Wayne.
@@user-wr9ej6xe4j I'm not saying Cousins is a bad guy, but he's definitely low on the list of QBs that most fans would say embodies an "American quarterback". He's a fairly corny dude who comes off as much more of a front office favorite than a fan/team favorite. It's a pretty subjective standard I guess, but I don't think he's the first name anyone thinks of when it comes to being a gritty, selfless, beloved team leader (which I'd say is what a quintessential "American QB" is thought to be). Cousins is more of a Russel Wilson, sucks up to management, golf with his buddies from high school type guy who does his own thing.
Indy traded him and used the pick to draft Marvin Harrison.. WOW. I love stories like that
I can't wait to watch this. I recognized Jeff the second I saw him at the start. I knew Jeff a little and my best friend knew him well. Jeff's dad was a teacher and baseball coach at our high school during the time he was drafted. There was a lot going on and the truth never made it to the media. Not sure if it will mention it but Jeff had a twin brother, he was a good guy.
His dad never let a day go by without talking about Jeff. Kind of an annoying guy. Plus, he was short, bald and chubby. No idea where the boys got their size and athletic ability.
Okay, just watched it and here is what I'll add. They were right about his family. His dad was always talking shit about the team and media and made non-stop excuses for Jeff. I only met him a fee times, mostly when he would come to baseball practice with his dad. His dad was the coach but Jeff would jump in and coach a little too. I think he also played baseball in high school. My best friend was one of the best pitchers in the state of Indiana but he would play along with Jeff's suggestions.
He and Jeff hit it off and talked fairly often. During the time Jeff wasn't showing up for camp, he called my friend and they talked for 30 minutes while I was sitting there. Jeff said he wasn't coming to camp because he had been partying in Miami and couldn't pass a piss test. Pretty sure he just meant weed but who knows.
The last time I saw him was right before he was traded to Atlanta. Jeff's dad invited my friend and I to go to the Colts game with him. By this time, Jeff was ready to go. He had been getting shit on pretty much the whole time with the Colts. We talked to him for maybe 2 minutes before the game but that's the last time I saw him.
Now, the sacks definitely weren't all Jeff's fault. The Colts had a terrible offensive line forever. Even when Peyton Manning got there, he was getting destroyed for his first few seasons.
I grew up and spent 46 years in Indianapolis and was lucky to meet a lot of Colts players. After high school I worked for a small lawn care company. The owner grew up with and was best friends with Jim Irsay. We took care of all the Irsay family's properties, Robert's(original owner and Jim's dad), Jim's and his stepmom's horse farm. We took care of the practice facility and practice field at Eagle Creek too. That's how I met a lot of players. If they were practicing, we would hang out on the sidelines and wait for them to finish. I took care of a lot of the player's houses too. At Tony Siragusa's house once and went in his backyard and there must have been 200 beer cans all over the deck and in the yard. He wasn't home but we thought it was funny.
Went into Harbaugh's backyard early one morning and he was sitting at the kitchen table with his kids eating cereal in his boxers. Just waved and kept eating. LOL
As for Jeff, I think he was a little spoiled and had a lot of people gassing him up a little too much. He could definitely be a jerk but wasn't a total asshole. Great arm but never developed the rest of his game.
I hate it when family gets in the middle of teams and talks to the media. I got the same impressions of Jeff being spoiled and thinking he was great. But honestly his arm was great so I guess I understand how and why he was like that. Thank you for sharing your experience.
@@Out-Of-Service For a minute, that story reminded me of the movie Dazed and Confused with the football camp/drug test issues, lol but you provided an insightful look into the exact subject matter of the video. I prefer reading your story than the video of mostly things I already knew, so thank you Sir.
Ryan Leaf somewhere is pissed off and telling someone to leave him alone 😂❤😂
And Peyton still giggles. lol
“Knock it off” 😂😂
Seeing the title my first thought was Ryan Leaf, but I saw Jeff George's mug. The truth is Leaf's career was too short to even make a substantial video.
And that “somewhere” is probably a prison cell
Ryan Leaf is an analyst who appears regularly on Good Morning Football the NFL morning show. The first time I saw him it was clear he was a changed man---people are quite different between the age of 22 and 48(?)--that and he was very funny and engaging and mature--not at all the person we saw is his first two years. More importantly, he is one of the best technical analysts I have heard with regard to football knowledge and insight (which I sure he wish he had all of when he was a young draftee). Check it out--he is really good. Jeff George? I don't know where he is, but I would guess that since he must be close to 50 or more, that he is a different human.
Would love to see you guys react to Tom Aspinall, the current interim UFC HW champ. Once in a lifetime talent and an insanely gifted athlete. He's also from Manchester btw
I just watched him eat chicken wings on BeardMeatsFood
I played against him in high school. I @ North Central and yes he was an a-hole. His arm strength however…phenomenal. I guarded his favorite target Kip Koonce in three games and he said George’s throws were very difficult to catch even with gloves.
Gotta say I always enjoyed watching this guy play, something about how he did it, he threw a pretty spiral.
I'm from Indianapolis and got Jeff George's autograph when I was just a baby. My dad told him I was going to be a QB when I grew up, he [apparently] said "play baseball instead, kid. You'll make more money and work half as hard"
😂😂 he was quite the character. 5points is right, though. George had all kinds of talent, the Colts were an absolute shitshow during much of the 80s and 90s. It was no place for a young, raw, immature QB to develop properly. He had several decent seasons later in his career, he just never stuck with a team for too long. You can only go so far with a guy like that as your QB, he kind of has to be a leader.
The Colts traded among others Chris Hinton to draft Jeff George. Chris Hinton is the player they got from Denver in 1983 in the famous John Elway trade. I think Hinton was the last remaining Baltimore Colt on the roster. Guys the Colts passed up that draft: Emmitt Smith, John Randle, Shannon Sharpe, Cortez Kennedy, Junior Seau, LeRoy Butler. In their defense, they needed a QB and it was a horrible QB draft. Neil O'Donnell went in the 3rd round and Scott Mitchell went in the 4th. Other than that the QB's that year were all kinds of garbage. Andre Ware was the other 1st round QB, and he was a major league bust. (Put up huge numbers at the University of Houston, but he was a product of their run-and-shoot offense and wasn't any good at all as an NFL QB). You can argue that George was the best QB of that draft even though O'Donnell did make it to a Super Bowl and George was a basketcase his whole career.
Should react to “He’s going to jail after this ($10,000 OL v DL” by destroying. It’s 18 mins long.
Colts have the honor of drafting the two most hated QBs, George for his personality as a player and Art Schlichter for being a despicable human off the field.
He played for one my high schools rival.
Jeff George had one the strongest arms, and he could throw 50 yard bomb on a rope without any effort. For evidence look at the 1999 Vikings NFL season when he was throwing to Carter and Moss.
Jeff George was simply a bad locker room guy. All quarterbacks are expected to be leaders on their teams because they're the ones that make the plays. Jeff had no leadership skills whatsoever and never held himself accountable when things went wrong. That's why he was hated so much.
It is a damned shame about Jeff George. He had tremendous arm talent, one of the best I have seen come into the league--but he was a head case when he was young.
I saw him throw when he was trying to get back in the nfl. Great deep ball and the accuracy was unreal. Of course thats without a defense though. To me I saw a lot of jeff george in jay cutler. So much potential with both and both really werent as bad as they were made out to be personality wise.
He had the strongest arm in the league and the strongest ever according to the late Frank Gifford.
Quarteebaxk win games, coaches lose games. George is one exaple of plenty more that just simply wasn't in the right place at the right time.
When you have a bad attitude and you're just an ok player, I would imagine you'd start getting on peoples nerves.
NFL is done... it's hockey season.
Not trying to burst Daz's bubble on all things "American Football", but Cousins ain't it...
Objectively I'd say Josh Allen represents what most people view as the ideal modern NFL QB, but as someone who loved both well before they were drafted I'd say him and Lamar is really the barometer for that conversation. Don't let Dave's weird video selections on what America is/isn't turn you into John Wayne.
Cousins is a solid dude idk what youre talking about. And Im not a Vikings fan
@@user-wr9ej6xe4j I'm not saying Cousins is a bad guy, but he's definitely low on the list of QBs that most fans would say embodies an "American quarterback". He's a fairly corny dude who comes off as much more of a front office favorite than a fan/team favorite. It's a pretty subjective standard I guess, but I don't think he's the first name anyone thinks of when it comes to being a gritty, selfless, beloved team leader (which I'd say is what a quintessential "American QB" is thought to be). Cousins is more of a Russel Wilson, sucks up to management, golf with his buddies from high school type guy who does his own thing.
Too much of a gunslinger.
Brett Favre laughing.