Can I swap the Windows NT kernel and system base?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this video, I'll try to manually upgrade Windows NT kernels and Win32 subsystems keeping the rest of the system as it was back in Windows NT 3.51
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0:00 Introduction
0:24 Explanation
1:31 Windows NT 3.51
2:50 Windows NT 3.51 with Newshell libraries
3:46 Windows NT 4 base applied
4:50 Windows 2000 base applied - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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I'd love to see a swap of XP's Shell ontop of windows 10's kernel.
I tinkered with XP's and nt4's explorer.exe running on wine, and it worked very well (videos on my page). with a few more tweaks it could be totally functional.
Imagine having the exact interface of XP but being able to run any modern and old software, you could have linux boot directly into it and any normal user wouldn't know the difference.
Oh well, XP interface...
For the last few years I use XP on a daily basis, it was during my highschool where the IT teacher made all classroom and computer room PC boot on LAN, and use the classic theme without wallpaper in the hope that those PC can stay lag-free for as long as possible.
So... For how flashy Windows XP looked like when it first come out, my last few bits of memory about it was all in Windows 2000 style.
I guess that really was Y2K relived way earlier than the internet went crazy about it.
This would be a good scam baiting OS, when you let the overseas people remote in and try to fix your computer
the overseas people 💀
@@mmmm768?
give it to Kitboga and see what mayhem he can concoct
@@mmmm768 Oh cmn bro, it's common knowledge that the people behind tech support scams are almost all exclusively pjeets from India. Gotta stop being so politically correct to not dare out speak simple facts...
This is cursed computing AND I LOVE IT!
This is fun to see
It's possible to make a Frankenstein Windows XP with Windows 7 gadgets, games, window behaviors, transparency, and visual assets. For the games, you just copy the needed system DLLs directly into the game folder so that they're used instead of the Windows XP DLLs.
So could this make a steam game compaible xp?
@@nutzeeer I have no idea. The only thing I used it for was what I mentioned as well as the built in games.
@@nutzeeer Win 7 is about to be unsupported by Steam soon either way
ReactOS
You're gonna need to prove that.
Good video!
That’s an extremely interesting question, I wondered as a teen if you can do something reversed, like, a reverse Newshell to use the 3.x-interface with newer NT-Versions… I never tried it and until now completely forgot about it.
so I have subscribed, and I am just 30 seconds in.
That would be nice
windows 10, 11 : crashs on booting (NTOSKRNL signature), don't check signature option shows bsod (DRIVER VERSION NOT MATCHS)
Closed source Frankestein OS. Great achievement nevertheless, it’s sometimes hard booting an unmodified Windows.
Wil you continue the series? I'd love to see this progress until at least windows 8. I'm not your mom though so you don't have to do it.
Maybe! I have even more interesting and bigger projects for the future. Unfortunately, I am busy with my main job as a software engineer. There will definitely be new interesting videos later :)
That is really impressive. I wanted to do exact same thing in my childhood.
NT3.51 and NT2000 shares MPP 6 processor inefficient and 4 processor efficient kernel subset. Build NT3.51 to NT2000 plus widgets from vista and direct-X of winXP and aero of win7... To hack deprecated inertial and satellite navigational ICBM and SLBM... Climate already changed and terrain already changed.
The climate has really changed critically in my country. Hope NT 3.51 can solve the issue
Whatvif you have the Windows 10 x32 base
I remember old tweaks for the 9x, that took stuff from ME and installed it to 9x. Can you do an extensive review of these? I never understood the actual benefits of them
All Microsoft did with ME was incorporate what was already offered to Windows 98 users via Windows Update and wall off real mode access. Not that the latter made it more stable tho 😂
I think you're talking about 98SE2ME. It's able to graft ME components onto 98 Second Edition and work fine because ME is really just a 98 Third Edition, not a whole lot changed between the OS' code bases. It's useful because while the ME kernel sucks, a lot of its user land apps and services are faster and more stable than 98's, such as the ME file explorer.
Best combination is the unofficial service pack 3 + 98SE2ME + KernelEX, though I have also wondered if some of the other enhancements, like MagnaRAM or Helix/McAfee Hurricane, would enhance this combo further.
@@drnubus4613Most likely! I think I couldn't install it because it only worked with the English OS and I had a spanish one; or something like that. It's been a long time ago.
There were no benefits in ME
@@drnubus4613What are you talking about? Me kernel was fine... Same thing as 98.
Once, I accidentally copied over some boot files from Windows 7 over those of a XP install that I dualbooted it with. It somehow booted, but XP had the Vista progress bar animation instead of its normal boot logo.
It uses the Vista animation as a fallback if the Windows 7 animation can't be displayed for whatever reason (most likely it just isn't loading correctly).
@@SKCro. Reread the comment.
@@jm036 I don't see any difference - unless I'm misinterpreting, he copied Windows 7 files over an existing Windows XP installation, causing the Windows Vista startup animation (which IS used in Windows 7 as a fallback) to appear.
Interesting. I've always thought about trying to get win98SE running on FreeDOS, which is a similar concept. I know there are some specific things that the newer versions of msdos implemented that are required and freedos doesn't do them.
Interesting fact, Novell attempted a project called WinBolt/WinGlue that allowed you to use DR-DOS with Windows 9x. Supposedly, much like removing IE with 98lite, it was much more stable than with MS-DOS 7. Unfortunately it got lost to time when Novell began spinning off parts of itself, like Caldera, due to financial issues.
If only someone still had the sources.
That's more like changing to bootloader of a Linux install... That's mostly what DOS does on 9x.
@@jm036It's more like changing the kernel than the bootloader..... closer to somewhere in between.
@@Matando ISaying 9x is DOS based is like saying Linux is GRUB based. 9x has its own kernel.
@@jm036 but linux does not use grub for memory management
I'd love to see windows xp with a windows 10 base. Already teied replacing the exploler. This seems like it could be more successfull
oh yeah.. making compatibility to the extreme left to extreme right! amazing idea if it could work !!
waiting until this guy cuts open windows 7 and injects the windows xp kernel and system base
Thanks! This Is a very educational video especially for a linux gamer using WINE which relies on opensource versions of windows components and this helps swapping out opensource for the real thing actually seem doable
you should make a python script to compare registries between instalation to maybe patch in the registry keys that are needed for proper functionality
Yeah, that's an idea. I ended up replacing the 'system' hive completely here. What's funny is that with the unchanged hive it shows a BSOD with the SYSTEM_LICENSE_VIOLATION code 😂
@@0dec0de That's typically due to the SystemPrefix key missing out of HKLM\System\Setup, you might be able to add that value to the registry and work from there
I always wanted to run the WinXP userspace with some modern kernel.
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You can get to 100 subs!
Yeah! Seems like 100 subs will be very soon 👀
Looks like he has 321 subs. I'm surprised his first video was only 5 days ago. This channel feels like it's been around a lot longer based on the quality of the videos and channel branding.
It's 354 right now 😱 The channel is growing really fast, and it surprises me too. I learned some things from the TH-cam channel I was working on a few years ago. I thought of the idea and branding for this channel a year ago and just started working on it. People seem to like the videos a lot, and TH-cam is really helping to show it to more people
This is hella entertaining to watch.
remember that alt space should bring up the window menu (like win3.1)
I've had to use it many times because windows loves to move windows off the screen if you mess with multi monitors a lot.
Awesome! I never seen classical Windows 3.11 interface with Windows 95 windows and theme
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@@0dec0de будь ласка
awesome
thx
This is amazing
thx!
very nice video thx youtube recommendations
thanks for watching!
Very cool. But can you make NT 4 or 2000 looks like NT 3.x? 😅
The system's components are closely intertwined, which means I can't directly transfer the old files. However, I have some concepts for migrating the old user interface. I'm working on this project and, once successful, I'll video about it.
@@0dec0de nice. I am a fan of the classic 9x and NT 4 skin, but 3.x skin is nice too. I am stunned how near 25 years we are still based on 95 skin :D.
winver: windows version: YES
Nice
This is awesome!!!
this is the single most cursed thing ever and I want it
honestly just 3.51 with windows 11 wallpaper and 2000 skin got me doublechecking what OS I was looking at
This is the first video that actually succedsnin swapping parts of windows betwwen version, you should definitly try more of this involving newer version of windows.
What about trying to use Windows 10 Kernel NT 10 on Windows 7?
Is this your actual voice?
yeah, I'm from Ukraine, so I have an accent
I tried to do something like this before with the 98 userspace in 95. It booted but never went to the desktop. The window title bars did have the two colour gradient from 98 though.
I know some people back then used to patch Windows 95 with some Windows 98 beta files in order to get the gradient in the title bar
What about win9x on windows 10?
I once tried to create a frankenstein between Windows Server 2003 and ReactOS. I used Server 2003 as a base and tried to replace certain files and see if it will still boot.
I didn't get far though yet.
I've built a Frankenstein version of Debian but all the gnome 43 files were replaced with gnome 2.x from Ubuntu 6.06
It sorta worked, but would crash all the time
@@bluetoothspeakergaming Why not just install MATE?
@@bluetoothspeakergamingWTF did you think would happen? How did you even manage that? Windows brainrot.
you desevre more subscribers
thanks!
I think there's a Jurassic Park quote hidden somewhere in this video about bringing extinct things back...
I once tried running XP Explorer on Win10. I killed the Win10 Explorer, then ran XP Explorer. The taskbar appeared, but it was essentially nonfunctional. Very unfortunate.
Hey, did you know something about sourceforge.net/projects/shellce/ ?
I recall this very unusual thing working on windows 10
Oooh, I had not heard of this, but I’m definitely going to play with it later.
I tried that also and got the same results. I then looked into running xp's shell on wine with much more success.
niche bros, new video of specific interests found
thanks!
Send this to kitboga ASAP!
i've been poking around like this trying to get later versions of the shell to work on my 8088 based tandy 1000ex with windows 3.0
What vm did you use and how did you get 32bit color on windows nt 3.51? I've tried virtualbox and vmware, but have been unable to get beyond 256 colors on anything prior to nt4/95,
It's a universal VESA driver called something like 'vbemp'
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@@_GhostMiner the fuck does this mean
@@maggiethegamer1271 correct abbreviation
I wonder if a windows 10/11 and 7 frankenstein would be possible.. Keep aero and most things in the control panel where they belong, but still have support for microsoft store apps and newer programs...
I love it
thanks!
NT 3.51 already had opaque windows dragging and rezising. I never knew
i should try merging xp kernel+subsystems
why are u using a the windows 11 kernel which is 64 bit on 32 bit and 16 bit operating systems, how did that even boot
It's just a background
yeah, i mentioned that this is just a background image and slightly modified color scheme to match windows 2000 colors, and NT 3.51 is 32-bit OS, it just has the old Windows 3.1 UI and shell
Man, replacing Linux kernel versions is so much easier.
I have an idea. What about a Frankenstein between windows xp + 7 + 11 (dark theme+explorer+only good stuff)
Vista meets Windows 8.
@@mikem9536 well, not exactly. I would want proper dark theme.
@@rossmaxx You do realize that proper customizable theme has been there since the very first windows version and you could set dark theme there, right? Classic theme has always been with fully customizable colors
@@jhgvvetyjj6589 i know they exist but they are really tedious to set up and also, some applications may not support it. I myself did try a "dark theme" for windows 7 but it was horrible so had to revert to default (and that theme disabled aero and looked like win 95 and lots of other inconsistencies).
i bet this would be easier on something like linux or a bsd
You can just change the shell in regedit to progman if you can source the x32 version and it's system files. Works fine aside from launching 64 bit software. Gotta make a batch file shortcut that launches it, and add the batch file as the program to progman
I imagine u could do some cool things and post to WinClassic if u haven't already
ReactOS / Windows-Frankensteins next .. ;)
Ah Merging 3xNT in a newer version, I done this back in 2000 with making a hybird of windows 3.11 work group with windows ME, and it turned out stable and perfect. when Win XP came i created a perfect hybrid of windows nt 3.51 in to XP running program manager and it worked good. Not so good with windows 7 has to much file protection it was tricky. I love using the older 3x interface. Getting it to work in Windows 11 as the default interface is a bit if a pain it blue screens my computer. I have to try a NT version of program manager from windows xp with no service packs to use in wnidows 11. windows xp service packs 1 and 2 and 64 bit pro XP all removed the program manager and replaced it with a dummy progman manager that dosen't open at all so im hoping i can pull a original windows xp program manager ^_^ but windows 11 is compleatly 64 bit so running a 32 bit program manager might be unstable. i used a 16 bit version and 32 bit 95 version in windows 10 it just crashes and blue screens. lol I can't fined a untouched copy of win xp with out service packs its so annoying
1: vista was the last to properly support 16 bit executables. I've learned this the hard way, first hand.
2: lotsa msdn isos around of regular old xp sp0. even a pair of dvds with everything up to server 2003, including xp sp0; look for all win.
I'd like to see a video where you modify windows source code (2000 and xp leaks) to make this fully functional lol
for example ntvdm x64 (this is already a thing people did, it allows 16 bit windows apps like program manager to run on windows x64 (even windows 10!)
I'm afraid I won't ever look at windows source code leaks since it's illegal enough to make me troubles and not only with the channel :(
Maybe take a look at WineVDM/OTVDM. Its not quite as interesting, but its still a project to restore Win16 compatibility with, at least part, of the Wine codebase.@@0dec0de
fair enough@@0dec0de
i stuffed an 10 21h2 kernel into an 11 21h2 image and it, unsurprisingly, didnt work. got a STATUS_INVALID_KERNEL_INFO_VERSION error when loading
That only shows that Windows have very stable ABI. That most OSes don't have.
nah, it only shows that they're selling you recycled shit
. . . in other news: Over a dozen retired Microsoft engineers have died suddenly and unexpectedly in recent weeks. All under mysteriously inexplicable circumstances leaving doctors baffled.
wow
I recently moved my Windows 98 SE boot drive to a different computer and it survived without reinstallation... does that count as a swap 😂
yeah 😂 i recall seeing something like this like 15 years ago and watching for 30 minutes how it's installing drivers for literally every single device, like monitor and the motherboard stuff
Interesting
I wonder if the entire User Mode of WinNT2000 can run on top of Windows11
Nah it can't because the components are too coupled. Maybe some of Win32 small components would work
it would be a dream to have windows 7 with a windows 10 kernel
Can I know the files required for this so I can try this myself?
Unfortunately I don't have a list with specific files. You need to replace the following parts:
ntldr, system registry hive, all the drivers, all the DLLs in system32 folders
Idea replaced windows Kernel and system with MacOS sonamo ones
Here at only 818 subscribers :)
Is this ai voice?
no, does it really sound like AI? 😅
*laughs in Linux*
Still very impressive tho
try mixing Windows Me with Windows NT 4.0
Simple answer: Wouldn't recommend it.
Complicated answer: Yes.....BUT.....
replace nt kernel with linux
First NT stole UI from consumer Windows 3.1... Win2k stole Windows 98 Interface. Win XP stole NT code base...
win2k didn't stole any interface, but nt 4.0 did stole it from windows 95
Windows Abomination