Bill mistaking Theon Greyjoy for Theon Lovejoy for an hour just to have Craig finally chime in and say it’s Greyjoy. Not have it be heard and then Shea having to finally correct it is pure comedy 😂
Yes, Ian McShane played Lovejoy, a 'rogue antiques dealer' (?!) over 8 years on British telly, prime time Saturday night slots, repeated often since then. He's so associated with the role you get people watching Deadwood saying "Wow, Lovejoy has a filthy mouth in this', and so on. Whereas Alfie Allen, aka Theon Greyjoy, is known for being Lily Allen's brother.
Is there an award for "crank the volume this park fucking rocks" cause I would definitely nominate the nightclub sequence and can testify that I regularly maxxx out my volume
@@Notmenoteverno its not, they just posted it on the audio podcast as well. And shea mentions john wick 4 which just came out last year. This is a new episode
Obligatory Wick ranking. 1 > 4 > 3 > 2 The first falls off at the end with the fight in the rain but it's iconic and it has the definitive emotional core. The fourth is basically a live action anime where energy beams are guns and the ensemble feels equally larger than life, that heightened tone makes the less grounded elements easier to stomach. It's over the top and antithetical to the first almost in tone, despite being no less tactile or competent so it feels the most valid of the sequels creatively. It doesn't get bogged down with attempts at worldbuilding, recapturing emotional resonance or direct/indirect callbacks and I think feels the most overtly celebratory of action cinema, every sequence is so beautiful and different from the last. Instead of trying to be the first movie again or trying to one up it, it's presenting Wick as an icon or mythical figure; we've finally entered this alternate reality, via rollercoaster - that 2 and 3 never *quite* gave us - where other entities like Wick exist. 2 and 3 are technically phenomenal but sort of teeter on this Jason Bourne meets the Bodysnatchers thing, it's motion and violence without the engine of the first.
Most rewatchable scene in this movie is imho when Viggo tells the story about John to his son and the lawyer, mixed with John bashing the floor with the sledgehammer. Michael Nyquist was such a great actor sadly lost way too soon to the big C :(
Love this episode because I'm a huge "John Wick" fan. From the first trailer I was in and had to convince other people it was worth seeing and I still watch it a couple times a year. Best version of Keanu Reeves and currently still underrated as an action film.
FYI, Arnis is a Filipino martial art style that uses sticks, swords, knives, boxing and ground. Been practicing for 25 years. FMA is in a lot of action movies but rarely gets called out. Awesome.
Couldn’t believe the half assed internet research didn’t discover Michael Nyqvist died a couple of years after this. Also, you recognise him from Girl with the Dragon tattoo, the Swedish trilogy
its really been 10 years? goddamn. My favorite scene in this was when the boss was like i heard you struck my son. may i ask why? well sir he stole john wick's car and killed his dog . " OH "
True story: my immigrant parents named me John and my brother Jonathan under the impression they were totally unrelated names. My mother didn’t realize it was the same name until we all watched John Wick on DVD at home and saw the Ian mcshane “Jonathan” scene in the jazz club
One blink and you'll miss it moment that always stood out to me as insanely good is when John is in the bath house and looks right at "Theon Lovejoy" as he holds a dude down and shoots him in the head. Just such a menacing look right into his eyes and Theon looks so terrified. Its great.
oh i discovered this best podcast like today only and I was rewatching godfather 1 then went to godfather 2 and I want to see more or learn more about godfather 2 then I jumped on youtube and found out you people discussing how godfather is greatest movie it was like released in 2019 like the podcast at the time of joker movie release and I subscribed and all notification today and one my favourite movie john wick which john wick too I watched recently I this year or last year I guess I don't remember exact time idk it is pretty wild and fun thanks for this john wick rewatchable podcast I am excited to get through and relive the memories and your perspectives❤🫡
I think I agree with Bill about the order of likability. In 1 he's really a sympathetic character. By the last one I openly wondered if Wick was the good guy anymore as he got so many people killed or I'm a fucked up situation.
My thought on wick not killing lovejoy in the club is he's not the babyaga again, so he's fuelled by revenge - by the time the end of the movie comes around, he is fully back as an assassin and is the cold calculated killer again.
Keanu performance in that is all time bad. I remember a scene where he's driving around downing like airplane bottles of vodka and just laughing so hard lol.
Michael Nyqvist died in 2017 in case the guys didn't know. They brought it up, but it seemed like they weren't aware. He was great in the original The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Funny that you mentioned Lovejoy because Ian mcshane played a character called that in a show of the same name hahahaha i think it's what got him famous, i just remember watching it with my grandad
My theory for Viggo not killing Wick outside the church because he doesn’t want to pay the $2M bounty with John being killed in a frenzy by one of his random crewmen taking credit. They got Wick unconscious then and tied up, now no one gets credit, no one gets the bounty, and Viggo still gets to have JW killed (or so he thought).
They had John Wick be stoic and not talk much because Keanu can't act. They knew to focus on what he's good at and accentuate his strengths as an action star.
Love wick the order wick 3,1,4, and then 2 ...But we've seen Keanu kick major ass in THE MATRIX before wick and I know he smacked Chris ..But Will Smith , Jason Statham , Vin Diesel , Tom Cruise have done great work keeping the ACTION GENRE ALIVE
The brilliance of the premise is most people - even pacifists understand why Wick would want to avenge the death of his dog. Instant buy in from the audience.
Actually, it's not Baba Yega. The correct way to pronounce it is Baba Yaga. It was really grating for me hearing how incorrectly they are saying it in the movie.
The Big Kahuna Burger award going to the cereal is unforgivable. The fact that Blantons isn't even mentioned here is grounds for having your man card revoked. This film is directly responsible for Blantons being elevated to one of the most iconic bourbons in the world, and also making it harder to get than cocaine in church. I bet if it was Michelob Ultra you'd have noticed....
I haven't seen Wick 4 yet, but I agree with Bill that the Wick movies are best in order of release. HOWEVER: the "Q" homage/montage with the Tailor, Rome Concierge, Map Guy, Sommelier leading into the kill of the Mafioso Queen leading into the gun fight in the catacomb leading into the fights with Common is just an epic 30 minutes. Finally, Duck fat fries. Wick Chapter 2 is such good action and so much fun.
Guys!! Since the overacting award is usually pejorative, but CAN be positive - I think it should be the, "Goes to 11 award " in honor of spinal tap. I think that makes it so it's not so negative when you guys choose who gets the award.
Yeah im shocked at CR at least didn't bring that up I totally see Mad Max Fury Road being a movie that Boomer Bill doesn't like To be fair, they did specify best ORIGINAL action movies this century
The raid is still better than John Wick. But it is clearly 1A and 1 B. Also, you should check "Monkey Man" with Dev Patel. It was surprisingly good as well.
LA cap head guy might wanna slow his roll. Tom Cruise? Mission Impossibl movies, Edge of Tmw., Reacher, Top Gun movies, Collateral, Minority Report...Also, since when is "Point Break" some big action movie?
I love the John Wick franchise. That said...for 4 John Wick movies I have accepted a fantasy franchise where multiple families throughout the world run a network of assassins who can get shot at 1000 times and not die, fight 1 on 50 and win, hang out in hotels that somehow only cater to them without local authorities ever intervening, handle every weapon perfectly, know every form of martial arts, sometimes can defeat multiple guys with guns while fighting with a only sword and other times guys with swords can defeat guys with guns, carry unlimited ammo, dodge bullets (even a blind guy), drive at high speeds and have gun fights in heavily populated cities, fall multiple stories from buildings and live, and get hit by cars and bounce back up. BUT, I have never and will never accept this happens to people who do all this while wearing designer suits and dress shoes that never get destroyed, or barely even torn. They bounce back up and boom the suit looks great still and the shoes are tied and nothing falls out of the pockets. The whole franchise is just advertising for the expensive suit industry.
Picky Nit: How do the coins stay in his pockets? He's rolling around, falling down and running the whole franchise. Haha. That shit would be jangling around and dropping out like Sonic the Hedgehog.
Watching John Wick makes me appreciate Mel Gibson's Payback even more. I like John Wick, but Payback is a bette/funnier movie with a good deal less karate.
Look, I love John Wick, but the "nobody's ever done", "I've never seen anything like" and "I cant think of another" hyperbole is off the charts in this podcast. It's a great great movie but its nothing you've never seen before, especially if you watch action movies outside of the US.
One more nitpick: John Wick was approached about selling his car while pumping his own gas in New Jersey…NJ is only full-service. You can’t pump your own gas.
Shea returning on The Rewatchables is even better and less expected than Keanu returning with John Wick.
Bill mistaking Theon Greyjoy for Theon Lovejoy for an hour just to have Craig finally chime in and say it’s Greyjoy. Not have it be heard and then Shea having to finally correct it is pure comedy 😂
Do you have the time stamp for when Craig chimes in first?
@@jonathanm.jackson8505 52:20 about 25 seconds into this part Bills too busy finishing his thought to even hear Craig
"Theo Lovejoy played on the Sacramento Kings" LOL
Reverend Theon Lovejoy
Best thing about the Greyjoy/Lovejoy bit...is that in the UK, Ian McShane is arguably more famous for playing a character called "Lovejoy"
@lukelloyd8976 Absolutely. Lovejoy rules.
Yes, Ian McShane played Lovejoy, a 'rogue antiques dealer' (?!) over 8 years on British telly, prime time Saturday night slots, repeated often since then.
He's so associated with the role you get people watching Deadwood saying "Wow, Lovejoy has a filthy mouth in this', and so on.
Whereas Alfie Allen, aka Theon Greyjoy, is known for being Lily Allen's brother.
was totally going to bring this up, you beat me to it!
Is there an award for "crank the volume this park fucking rocks" cause I would definitely nominate the nightclub sequence and can testify that I regularly maxxx out my volume
Shea’s back? Let’s go!
Shea's back, lets turn it off!
@@Notmenoteverno its not, they just posted it on the audio podcast as well. And shea mentions john wick 4 which just came out last year. This is a new episode
@@Notmenoteverit is? They said the 10 year anniversary is coming in October.. which would be next month
@@Jokoman019 my bad I'm wrong I thought John wick came out in 2011
@@Jokoman019 I thought wick came out in 2011
Obligatory Wick ranking.
1 > 4 > 3 > 2
The first falls off at the end with the fight in the rain but it's iconic and it has the definitive emotional core.
The fourth is basically a live action anime where energy beams are guns and the ensemble feels equally larger than life, that heightened tone makes the less grounded elements easier to stomach. It's over the top and antithetical to the first almost in tone, despite being no less tactile or competent so it feels the most valid of the sequels creatively. It doesn't get bogged down with attempts at worldbuilding, recapturing emotional resonance or direct/indirect callbacks and I think feels the most overtly celebratory of action cinema, every sequence is so beautiful and different from the last. Instead of trying to be the first movie again or trying to one up it, it's presenting Wick as an icon or mythical figure; we've finally entered this alternate reality, via rollercoaster - that 2 and 3 never *quite* gave us - where other entities like Wick exist.
2 and 3 are technically phenomenal but sort of teeter on this Jason Bourne meets the Bodysnatchers thing, it's motion and violence without the engine of the first.
'Knock Knock' is the best Keanu movie, just for the line "It was FREE PIZZA! Free f**kin' pizza!"
we’re so back
Most rewatchable scene in this movie is imho when Viggo tells the story about John to his son and the lawyer, mixed with John bashing the floor with the sledgehammer. Michael Nyquist was such a great actor sadly lost way too soon to the big C :(
Love this episode because I'm a huge "John Wick" fan. From the first trailer I was in and had to convince other people it was worth seeing and I still watch it a couple times a year. Best version of Keanu Reeves and currently still underrated as an action film.
FYI, Arnis is a Filipino martial art style that uses sticks, swords, knives, boxing and ground. Been practicing for 25 years. FMA is in a lot of action movies but rarely gets called out. Awesome.
Couldn’t believe the half assed internet research didn’t discover Michael Nyqvist died a couple of years after this. Also, you recognise him from Girl with the Dragon tattoo, the Swedish trilogy
its really been 10 years? goddamn. My favorite scene in this was when the boss was like i heard you struck my son. may i ask why? well sir he stole john wick's car and killed his dog . " OH "
True story: my immigrant parents named me John and my brother Jonathan under the impression they were totally unrelated names. My mother didn’t realize it was the same name until we all watched John Wick on DVD at home and saw the Ian mcshane “Jonathan” scene in the jazz club
😂
One blink and you'll miss it moment that always stood out to me as insanely good is when John is in the bath house and looks right at "Theon Lovejoy" as he holds a dude down and shoots him in the head. Just such a menacing look right into his eyes and Theon looks so terrified. Its great.
"Theo Lovejoy played for NC State." 😂
I was listening to Chromatics and Ruth Radalet when this appeared.
John Wick OG is pretty badass
OMG it’s Shea!!
The club scene from John Wick reminds me so much of Samurai Jack
1-4-2-3
4 has some of the craziest fights and needle drops. maybe some fights are overdrawn but feels so tight compared to the others
This is my order too. I just went through and watched the whole series again about a week ago and this is the order that made me the most happy.
oh i discovered this best podcast like today only and I was rewatching godfather 1 then went to godfather 2 and I want to see more or learn more about godfather 2 then I jumped on youtube and found out you people discussing how godfather is greatest movie it was like released in 2019 like the podcast at the time of joker movie release and I subscribed and all notification today and one my favourite movie john wick which john wick too I watched recently I this year or last year I guess I don't remember exact time idk it is pretty wild and fun thanks for this john wick rewatchable podcast I am excited to get through and relive the memories and your perspectives❤🫡
THE RETURN OF SHAE!!!! Now all I need is Jason back w Mal & Jo!! 👍🏽👍🏽Also: Theon Lovejoy 54:37 & 1:03:32 😂😂
I think I agree with Bill about the order of likability. In 1 he's really a sympathetic character. By the last one I openly wondered if Wick was the good guy anymore as he got so many people killed or I'm a fucked up situation.
My thought on wick not killing lovejoy in the club is he's not the babyaga again, so he's fuelled by revenge - by the time the end of the movie comes around, he is fully back as an assassin and is the cold calculated killer again.
Street Kings - SUUUUPER UNDERRATED GEM!
I think it's a great bad movie like Roadhouse or Cocktail.
Keanu performance in that is all time bad. I remember a scene where he's driving around downing like airplane bottles of vodka and just laughing so hard lol.
Rewatchables has to be protected at all cost
Love having Shea Serrano back!!
Michael Nyqvist died in 2017 in case the guys didn't know. They brought it up, but it seemed like they weren't aware. He was great in the original The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Funny that you mentioned Lovejoy because Ian mcshane played a character called that in a show of the same name hahahaha i think it's what got him famous, i just remember watching it with my grandad
My theory for Viggo not killing Wick outside the church because he doesn’t want to pay the $2M bounty with John being killed in a frenzy by one of his random crewmen taking credit. They got Wick unconscious then and tied up, now no one gets credit, no one gets the bounty, and Viggo still gets to have JW killed (or so he thought).
Ian McShane played LOVEJOY in the UK for years
Yeah, found that super confusing because people still call him Lovejoy
We have never been more back
Oh Bill - its Theon Grejoy.😅😅
Lovejoy works though.
So glad this movie was covered though. Love this film.
Hard to believe Keanu did 8 movies of Matrix/Wick
I want to know what CR was going to say his movie pairing was
Yeah Bill just rocketed through that segment lol
They had John Wick be stoic and not talk much because Keanu can't act. They knew to focus on what he's good at and accentuate his strengths as an action star.
Love wick the order wick 3,1,4, and then 2 ...But we've seen Keanu kick major ass in THE MATRIX before wick and I know he smacked Chris ..But Will Smith , Jason Statham , Vin Diesel , Tom Cruise have done great work keeping the ACTION GENRE ALIVE
Hell or high water is pretty good for an original.
Shea has Rounders and Surviving the Game in his background - NICE!
I like 2 &4 the most but really appreciate 1 & 3
Where can I buy Shea’s book “Werewolf Lawyer”?
The fact it's not explained who John is & how scary he is until about 25mins in is beautiful
Now we're cooking!!
My Wick Movie Ranks (subject to change):
1. John Wick 4
2. John Wick 2
3. John Wick 3.
4. John Wick
All 10 out 10 movies to be sure.
4 is the best action movie ever made imo. It's going to take a lot to dethrone it. But I can't wait till it is.
Shea!!!! This just feels so right
time to do 3 and 4 now
The brilliance of the premise is most people - even pacifists understand why Wick would want to avenge the death of his dog. Instant buy in from the audience.
Does shae have a bunch of vhs tapes behind him???
It looks like he’s podding from an old blockbuster
1:29:20 Wayne Jenkins
So glad to see Shea!!!
Shea’s return gives me hope that Blood In, Blood Out will happen 🙌🏽
Actually, it's not Baba Yega. The correct way to pronounce it is Baba Yaga. It was really grating for me hearing how incorrectly they are saying it in the movie.
The Big Kahuna Burger award going to the cereal is unforgivable. The fact that Blantons isn't even mentioned here is grounds for having your man card revoked. This film is directly responsible for Blantons being elevated to one of the most iconic bourbons in the world, and also making it harder to get than cocaine in church. I bet if it was Michelob Ultra you'd have noticed....
I haven't seen Wick 4 yet, but I agree with Bill that the Wick movies are best in order of release. HOWEVER: the "Q" homage/montage with the Tailor, Rome Concierge, Map Guy, Sommelier leading into the kill of the Mafioso Queen leading into the gun fight in the catacomb leading into the fights with Common is just an epic 30 minutes. Finally, Duck fat fries. Wick Chapter 2 is such good action and so much fun.
You gotta see #4
Guys!! Since the overacting award is usually pejorative, but CAN be positive - I think it should be the, "Goes to 11 award " in honor of spinal tap. I think that makes it so it's not so negative when you guys choose who gets the award.
No mention of the multiple stunt guy "haircut trick"? The shorter the haircut the later the scene was filmed.
Shea!!! 2, 1, 4, 3 for me.
Loved the first one. Second film was fun. They lost me on the third film. It's just one long fight scene. I got bored.
Finally, chris defended john wick 4, i fucking loved it, bit too long but certainly the 2nd best fir me.
MCU kinda pushed action movies aside. I think some of these convos are missing comic book and other genre flicks because Bill doesn’t watch them.
Man of Tai Chi is an underrated movie that Keanu directed VERY well
I guess its official...bills never doing Anchorman
Ringer weighing in on the pet killing controversy.
Like if you want them to do an episode of “Nobody” with Bob Odenkirk joining them
I mean MAD MAX FURY ROAD is clearly the best action movie this century
Yeah I'm surprised that didn't come up at all. Even if it's not the best, it's gotta contend
hell no
Yeah im shocked at CR at least didn't bring that up
I totally see Mad Max Fury Road being a movie that Boomer Bill doesn't like
To be fair, they did specify best ORIGINAL action movies this century
We go crazy over John Wick because of how he reloads his gun. Mad Max doesn't come close
Chris bought up Fury Road briefly.
I thought shea left the ringer?
Criminal nepo-baby - Michael Corleone
Sheeeeeeaaa!!!
The raid is still better than John Wick. But it is clearly 1A and 1 B. Also, you should check "Monkey Man" with Dev Patel. It was surprisingly good as well.
LA cap head guy might wanna slow his roll. Tom Cruise? Mission Impossibl movies, Edge of Tmw., Reacher, Top Gun movies, Collateral, Minority Report...Also, since when is "Point Break" some big action movie?
I love the John Wick franchise. That said...for 4 John Wick movies I have accepted a fantasy franchise where multiple families throughout the world run a network of assassins who can get shot at 1000 times and not die, fight 1 on 50 and win, hang out in hotels that somehow only cater to them without local authorities ever intervening, handle every weapon perfectly, know every form of martial arts, sometimes can defeat multiple guys with guns while fighting with a only sword and other times guys with swords can defeat guys with guns, carry unlimited ammo, dodge bullets (even a blind guy), drive at high speeds and have gun fights in heavily populated cities, fall multiple stories from buildings and live, and get hit by cars and bounce back up. BUT, I have never and will never accept this happens to people who do all this while wearing designer suits and dress shoes that never get destroyed, or barely even torn. They bounce back up and boom the suit looks great still and the shoes are tied and nothing falls out of the pockets. The whole franchise is just advertising for the expensive suit industry.
Picky Nit: How do the coins stay in his pockets? He's rolling around, falling down and running the whole franchise. Haha. That shit would be jangling around and dropping out like Sonic the Hedgehog.
I’ve missed Shea so much! It’s not the same without him. You guys still cool with Jason?….
Theon Lovejoy.
Blood In Blood Out please
All this time, I thought Shea Searrano was black.
No Van??? FUCK YES!!!!
48:49
Shea is looking more and more like Jason C. LOL
Baba Yaga , huge in Hellboy
Theon lovejoy
Umm, the Criminal Nepo Baby award may go to Michael Corleone.
The 3 kings
Shea nailed it with Leguizamo. He makes every movie he's in better.
I'm thinking I'm back....
LETSSSS GOOOOOO. LOVE SHEA
shea return let’s go!
Watching John Wick makes me appreciate Mel Gibson's Payback even more. I like John Wick, but Payback is a bette/funnier movie with a good deal less karate.
the director's cut is a whole different film
@@andrewsillman2934 I'll have to check that out.
Shea's back and nobody even had to kill his dog .
gotta be bots in these comments. no way this many people like shea
My adhd has me annoyed about Bill mic being on an angle and not straight lol
Look, I love John Wick, but the "nobody's ever done", "I've never seen anything like" and "I cant think of another" hyperbole is off the charts in this podcast. It's a great great movie but its nothing you've never seen before, especially if you watch action movies outside of the US.
Apex for Criminal Nepo Babies has to be.... Fredo.
1:15:30. I don't buy that CR loves that movie.
God, I love Shea
AYYYYYYEEE SHEA THE GOAT IS BACKKKKK!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
One more nitpick: John Wick was approached about selling his car while pumping his own gas in New Jersey…NJ is only full-service. You can’t pump your own gas.
Thanks for literally nothing, Anal Alan.
@@kevinlakeman5043No problem. Hopefully someday you’ll be able to understand what a nitpick is.
Shea!!
Finish off the Wick flicks, then give us Matrix Reloaded. Most under appreciated sci-fi sequel ever
John Wick and Shea Serrano?! Yooooooo