Hafting Clovis and an explanation of single and bi-bevel rods

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  • How to haft Clovis points with tools from the Clovis assemblage. This deep dive lecture explains the other hafting components in the Clovis assemblage and their roles in the hunting kit.
    To watch the full length Clovis documentary, click this link.
    • Hunting with Clovis. F...

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  • @roysuggs3635
    @roysuggs3635 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fletched Atlatl darts have been found in melting ice fields of the Arctic in Canada and Alaska.

  • @devangrey4376
    @devangrey4376 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man this video and your fluting video are blowing my mind. I have been chipping a couple months now and am really enjoying the learning process. This stuff is really cool.

  • @williamwarner6036
    @williamwarner6036 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a former R&D guy I always appreciate your real-world approach to sussing out such issues. Keep up the good work!! The recent ice-field hafted dart recoveries show lap-joint technology, and at least some were split-shaft technology, though still had the the flute-matching characteristics you show. I expect you are right that both methods ("cut notch" vs. split notch) were probably used.

  • @catawissa2weinhold579
    @catawissa2weinhold579 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love the detail of your videos and your clear examples of real experience.

  • @celem1000
    @celem1000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fully agree with the unlikelyhood that the single beveled bone piece was a foreshaft.
    Your point on construction time feels crucial. The atlatl dart is one of the more complex devices they can create, and one upon which they depend for survival. Modern recreators all note the challenge involved in setup and maintenance of the projectiles, so much so that we stopped making them and regressed to javelin across much of history, despite the decreased power
    These were human beings, so they surely optimised the heck out of the process, it's what we do. If there's an seemingly unnecessary step in a subsistence economy, there has to be a seriously good reason. I don't see one...
    Excellent work

  • @C-24-Brandan
    @C-24-Brandan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hoping you'll start going on some hunts for small game, wild hogs, maybe some new/different bow/atlatl/spear fishing with your primitive hand made points, arrow and projectiles, bows and atlatls etc. As always great content, super interesting & educational! Keep Killin' It & keeping the content awesome!

    • @huntprimitive9918
      @huntprimitive9918  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks much. I already have a ton deer, hog, rabbit, and fishing videos on the channel, however I am constantly working on more of those videos as well. I currently have a few more of these videos stashed away that I will drop in a youtube series this summer so hang tight!

    • @C-24-Brandan
      @C-24-Brandan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@huntprimitive9918 can't wait!! Would be cool to see you and Clay from MeatEater Collab, he recently did a stone point and handmade arrow set up on a Black Bear hunt! You and him doing something would be super cool

  • @cliffordkelly5327
    @cliffordkelly5327 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Howdy Ryan , lots of great info, I actually watched all or most of yur videos , even this entire video as well. ! Well done ! Love yur channel !

  • @dennisstolte1103
    @dennisstolte1103 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Impressive video Ryan. Tremendous work. Thank you and keep it coming.😊

  • @Tradbow85
    @Tradbow85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was an awesome video. Really enjoyed it, thank you!

  • @ElenaTheKnappingMoose
    @ElenaTheKnappingMoose ปีที่แล้ว

    You raised some very interesting points here. Have you considered doing some teaching at universities? I think more archaeologist should know about more practical aspects about the material they study

  • @Isaac_Anthony_1861
    @Isaac_Anthony_1861 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey, Ryan. This was a very informative video that nicely complimented the research I’ve been doing on Clovis osseous technology. I would very much like to replicate these bone rods and points, but I am having trouble finding bone with a suitable cortical thickness. What specific bone did you use for the reproduction shown in the video? I know beef leg bones would be suitable, but I was hoping to use bone that would have been more readily available in the Terminal Pleistocene.
    I thank you in advance.

    • @huntprimitive9918
      @huntprimitive9918  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you very much. I used the leg bones from the bison we've killed as well as straight sections of deer antler. Antler is a bit tougher and already much closer the shape you would be looking for. I have a video coming out soon on those exact points actually. Shoud only be another few days or a week until that video on bone points is out.

  • @lobopropredatorcontrol
    @lobopropredatorcontrol ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff, loved how you brought it all together! As a trapper I have to ask, do you think the old ones used traps to hold Bison to get close or do you think they always ambushed or chased down their pray?

  • @seanarthur2001
    @seanarthur2001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did experiments with making Clovis points and the technique and technology is complex. With a minimalist mindset and limited tool kit a Clovis can be achieved but it’s quality would suffer. I believe complex and extensive training, tools, skill set, and experience determined the quality and use of the projectile. I made many tools to find a portable fluting system that is effective and predictable, however the best that can be used for fluting is a chest crouch by don crabtree design as I have found. The point is determined by the beginning of the biface along with significant waste contouring the faces to flute at the end. The process is very wasteful for design but the reward is one of the best hafted points for fore-shafts, spears, and knives.

  • @alenglehart4020
    @alenglehart4020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting long on theory light on empirical

  • @lundysden6781
    @lundysden6781 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job! btw I bought one of your knives!!! WoW, awesome work!

  • @MyBizGuide8
    @MyBizGuide8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait... Are saying people actually made a hinge on purpose for some of the flutes? If so, I may have missed my calling.

  • @miguelbinha
    @miguelbinha ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crazy to think drills came after such a technically demanding move to make the flutting happened!

  • @TheAca300
    @TheAca300 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice video, Ryan, loved it! :D
    I have a video idea which is maybe great for you to test out if you're interested..
    I love your channel but I'm also interested in medieval period, a channel called Todd's workshop tested if greasing the arrows (duck fat or pig or idk) will increase penetration and as far as i remember it did. (and significantly)
    and now when you mention penetration I'm wondering why not marry the two ideas? people in the stone age had access to a lot of animal fat try greasing up some arrows and also shoot some without grease and test if there's a significant difference!
    that's it, hope you found the idea at least interesting and take care 💪

  • @ЈованСтевановић
    @ЈованСтевановић ปีที่แล้ว

    Ryan, will you make video about hardwood atlatl shafts?

  • @TheEzzieboy
    @TheEzzieboy ปีที่แล้ว

    Was hoping for more of actual demonstration and utilization of points and materials rather than a classroom chalktalk lecture presentation.

    • @huntprimitive9918
      @huntprimitive9918  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's more what the original Clovis documentary mentioned and linked is for. I think that may have the points you are interested in.

  • @FireStar-gz2ry
    @FireStar-gz2ry ปีที่แล้ว

    My limited knowledge of "spikes" says this may have been excellent for defeating early armors

  • @KnightlyNerd
    @KnightlyNerd ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s your opinion on inset/slotted antler points? It seems to be the best
    Of both world, with a pointed core of ivory/antler with stone edges.

    • @huntprimitive9918
      @huntprimitive9918  ปีที่แล้ว

      Those are a Siberian/european stype of projectile. Some cross over into alaska but overall, clovis people weren't using slotted and bladed projectiles. I am not really sure why that technology was lost over time. We are thinking about doing a project on those as well

    • @KnightlyNerd
      @KnightlyNerd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@huntprimitive9918 I know your primary focus is Clovis right now, but any plans to examine Australian Aboriginal Woomera projectiles? The stonework on them seems very simple and utilitarian by comparison to some Eurasian and American work.

  • @jillatherton4660
    @jillatherton4660 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😄👍

  • @KADIAK_023_RUS
    @KADIAK_023_RUS ปีที่แล้ว

    🔥🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍👍👍🇷🇺🇺🇸