I wasn't planning on capturing any footage on this particular job, but wanted to share with you all how bad this guy's wires heated up! If your lights start acting up, don't wait to call an electrician or your local power company to investigate further! I was happy that everything worked out for this home owner in the end! 😌 A few un expected costs are never good news, but it could have been a lot worse and now everything is safe. Have a great weeks Guys and Girls! 👊👊🍻 P.S - I left in a lot of my "rambling on" as a result of popular request 🤣😁
The costumer has pulled too much current power/current for the connection, or the connection got lose and the contact area decreased. First option more probable I guess
It's interesting how the meter housing and mast is the responsibility of the home owner as I would consider it part of the meter itself. In the UK the meter and all cabling up to the meter and any associated isolation switch and main fuse are usually the distribution network's responsibility to maintain and they have legal obligations to repair and replace faulty equipment in what is a fairly short time after reporting. This has obvious benefits as it means that when responding to a faulty supply such as this there is no reason to have to get a 3rd party electrician involved (unless the fault is caused by wiring in the home itself but in that case the DNO will still repair the fault and isolate by removing the main fuse) so meter and wiring faults such as this can be rectified quicker without all the permit overheads and return visits to reconnect. This also ensures that dangerous faults are more likely to be reported and repaired as there is no direct cost to the end customer.
@@ThePoxun unfortunately this is how it goes most of the time.. it's completely profit driven. 99% of companies operate to do the least work as possible.. any opportunity to "pass the buck" will always be taken..I don't believe that junction should be the customers responsibility.. now inside the house, fair game.. if you're causing faults internally that's on you.
@@ljgil850 ... nothing to do with $$ and everything to do with code compliance. The guys from your local power company are not trained in anything to do with building codes, including wire size, proper termination inside those boxes, etc. Here in North America the power company brings power up to the entry point on a building and that's it. That means the weather head up on the eve of the house or a weather head out at the pole on top of YOUR conduit. Their responsibility ends at the end of the service wire. You own the rest.
Down in this part of the world meter loops to a mobile home must be mounted on a meter pole within 30' of the mobile home. It's interesting to see how codes are in different parts of the country and other countries. Stay Safe keeping the fire in the wires Brother.
We've still got a few around like that! They used to run a tec cable from the pedestal or pole over to the mini home. It wasn't a bad setup. Less of a mess at actual mini home Parcs.... Didn't have 4 wires coming of a central pole
that's a common practice where code dictates the meter / service must be attached to a permanent structure. Since most mobile homes are NOT permanent structures, well, you get the idea. I'm sure there are grey areas in the rules for anything set on pilings or a foundation, despite the structure style.
In Canada they also mount panels horizontal. From what I've heard they don't allow for branch circuits to cross over the feeder wires, so they usually come in the side of the panel and make the shortest run to the breaker.
I really enjoy your videos. I did A/C in Phoenix for over 25 years and saw some pretty gnarly wires and crappy, sloppy repairs. I got tired of crawling through 170 degree attics and no A/C calls at 2 AM on a Saturday and it slipped out that it was out since Tuesday, I switched to hotel and apartment maintenance (saw some REALLY scary stuff there). I retired 5 years ago and moved up to BFE Montana. don't miss it at all. Stay safe.
I had a situation where the mast broke off from the top of the meter can. Local utility guys came out to inspect it and said they would have to disconnect power. Got to talking to guys and they noticed for a 200A service, the drop was only sized for 100A. They scheduled to replace the drop the next day and said "If while we're running the new drop, the mast magically repairs itself, we have no issues". He did stress to not touch the actual connections in the meter can. So we bought a new mast and weatherhead. When they showed up the next day, they cut power and started changing the drop. I have the mast swapped in 30 minutes. Linesmen made a comment that he's seen electricians take all day to do that. They reconnected power and all was good!
you own it, the line is dead, you can repair it, in most cases. The only exceptions I have seen on that rule is if it's a rental property where ALL repairs must be done by a licensed sparky.
I don’t know why they didn’t replace your service that night? I can replace it by myself in under 2 hours. Yes #4 aluminum is rated for 100 amps. The gold standard is #2 aluminum which is rated at 200 amps.
@@johnclyne6350 ... and that's the difference between the power company standards and building code. Utility uses #4 AL triplex for a 100 amp service, but only because you seldom draw the full amount for any length of time... and... it's considered "free air" with no secondary wrap holding in the heat. I think you will find the voltage drop at 100 amps is approaching 20% over 100 feet. Same with #2 AL triplex. The free air rating allows something approaching 200 amps for short spells with maybe a 15% voltage drop. That's not acceptable for a home's inside wiring. Even #4/0 AL outside service cable is only rated for around 180 amps at 5% voltage drop, but it's allowed because it's mostly on the outside, not buried in a wall. Utilities have have a WHOLE DIFFERENT set of rules they play by that don't meet indoor building codes.
@@johnclyne6350 They told me that they had just come from a drop replacement and didn't have enough cable to do it then. IIRC it is 3/0 copper from the meter to the weatherhead, and 2/0 copper drop.
@@neonhomer Everyone I work with keeps a well stocked truck. Each truck keeps a coil of service wire with enough wire on it for two drops. It’s possible that the crew that showed up didn’t have enough wire for your house if they had a very busy night or the run from your house was longer than a coil of wire (250’)? However most people I work with wouldn’t hesitate to drive back to the shop & load what they needed for that job & head back out while the other lineman initiated repairs.
Nice to see folks thinking ahead and positively trying help the customer. Good on you. Seen wires heated up so much that they were all that was left in the heap of ash- after we’d put the fire out. Watching from Saxilby, nr Lincoln, UK.
New Jersey USA I love when our guys dont drive the j hooks in far enough and snow weight pops them right out. You can see the depth right on the rings. Nice work be safe
Watching from New Jersey USA. Worked at a Science Center and the theater used a 15KW lamp that was powered by a rectifier supply 400 amps DC! You have respect what your working with always!
Thanks for your videos and your service. I am not a lineman. In 1970 my family and I moved from Lawtey, Florida to Liverpool, Nova Scotia. My mother died 6 months before. My dad and brother and 4 sisters wanted to get away. So off to Canada we went. But we only stayed for 3 months, we could not survive on the low income. My dad was an expert printer he went to work for the newspaper and my two older sisters went to work at a laundry making 90 cents an hour. There was 7 of us. But we left and went to Richmond, Virginia. Now I am living in Jacksonville, Florida. I watch your videos because I am a hobbyist electronic guro and it reminds me of Nova Scotia.
Watching from Maryland. Great video. I'm glad the customer was able to get that fixed quickly. Things like that always happen at the most inopportune time and can be devastating to someone who doesn't have the resources to get it fixed. A lot of people would have just unhooked it and walked away but you put in the extra effort to see to it they got it straight. Thank you for being awesome and stay safe out there.
My husband and I watch your vlogs. He was an EE with central and northern IL utility companies for decades. We really enjoy seeing how you handle all sorts of situations.
Im watching from NJ im a industrial electrician for 10 years now i went to lineman School and unfortunately no one would give me a chance when i got out. But what your doing is my dream im so glad i found your channel you do a great job showing us
Watching from Umpire, Arkansas. My son is currently a journeyman lineman and I have engineering background. I really enjoy the way you explain what you are doing and why. Stay safe and throw in a eh every now and then!
A bushing pulled out of the transformer across my street a couple years ago, one leg went bad swinging all around from 0 to 70 volts. Not good in the house... I opened breakers real quick and called it in.. your boys fixed us up pretty quick. (new transformer)
Hi Arron I’m from mesa ,Arizona I’m a A/c tech had to learn about loops in school even though I don’t have to deal with them . Love your videos people don’t realize how dangerous your job is .
I'm watching from Lima Ohio, which is part of Northwest Ohio. Here we still have lots of 60,70 7 100 amp service & meter bases. My house is one of those with what is likely 60 or 70 amp and the entrance cable runs under the soffit the entire length of the house about 50 feet or so. The wire is so old that the insulation is actually cracked and looks very brittle. Another interesting thing about my electric is I still have some knob & tube wiring still in service which is surprisingly in really good condition.
Hello from the desert, Phoenix AZ. My dad was a journeyman thru IBEW 640 here for well north of 40 years before he retired in 2005. He taught me alot but he wasnt a lineman he did exclusively commercial, industrial installs for as long as I can remember.the copper mines, IBM, that sort of thing. Thank you and be safe.
Same guide lines we follow here in New England i work for National Grid in MA/RI and we follow the same process it’s amazing to see the videos you share hope to be a lineman soon! work hard and stay safe! Been an inspiration for me for a long time!!! Thank you!!!
Aaron. Thanks for this video. What I especially loved about it is your concern for that customer. Living in a mobile home myself I am all too well aware how vitally important heat can be....mobile homes cool off fast if the heat fails. At 77 years old... we kinda feel the cold more than I used too in my younger days. Great to note the working relation between the line guys and the local electricians.... sadly... that ain't always the case, but to see you folks working together just gladdens my heart. Aaron.... keep up these videos. While I am in Ireland.... things might be a wee bit different here.... but many of the messages are the same. Your hints and tips... and concerns for safety of yr own crew and that of the customer(s) are very very much noticed and APPRECIATED. that customer must consider himself lucky.. this story could have had a very different ending, with the fire service playing a major role. Albert.
I enjoy watching your thinking process to narrow down where the problem is. First, other neighbors didn't call, so assume it's localized to that one household. Then the matter of cutting the lines before pulling the meter for safety. That you worked with an electrician and got electricity that night is impressive. Palm Desert (Palm Springs), CA.
Had similar happen to me. Overheating turned the meter base into crispy charcoal and the heat damaged insulation for feeders going into the main panel. Another symptom besides flickering can be condensation of yellowish brownish scum on the inside of the meter glass. Glad I had a great electrician who fixed everything pretty quickly.
Illinois here. Have learned a lot from your channel. Engineer working in the AV/Lighting industry both install & event production so deal with temp power a lot.
This reminds me of an incident I had working at a friend's house years ago. She was doing something in the kitchen that required pulling the gas stove away from the wall. We shut the gas off, pulled the stove out a little, and disconnected the gas line. As I was disconnecting it, I got a shock! I had a meter with me and measured about 70 volts between the frame of the stove and the gas pipe. I poked around a little more, and also measured 70 volts between both the neutral and ground of the outlet the stove plugged into, and the gas pipe (it was the nearest grounded object). Turns out the outlet was wired with *two wire* romex... hot, neutral, and no ground. They'd connected the outlet ground (and box) to the neutral line! And there was a fault in the neutral connection in the main breaker panel such that it wasn't connected to ground or incoming neutral, it was just floating.
Whenever electronics engineers ask why neutral and ground are kept separated - because there's no *electrical* reason - this is the answer. They don't need to be separate until there's a fault and then you're glad they're separate
Great video! Interesting to see how different the service entries are there to where I am (Ireland). The final leg on the connection to houses in rural areas is now under ground from the last pole. The customer has to install a 2" red duct from the pole, with a hockey stick up into the wall cavity into a flush mounted GRP metering cabinet. The supply company then runs a concentric cable (of course we only have 1 phase and neutral) to their fuse unit in the cabinet, then the meter, and into an isolation switch. From there the customer must have a B63 MCB (63A), with 3 x 16mmsq SWA to the main board, and 16mmsq PVC/PVC tails which the electrician connects to the DSO (Distribution System Operator) isolator. That's for the standard 12KVA domestic supply, but with heat pumps and EVs they now offer 15KVA and 20KVA single phase, and 3 phase connections for domestic houses.
In the UK we use a 100a main cut out in a lot of places. My 3 bed terrace has a 100a cut out fuse but my dad's 4 bed house only had a 63a MCB in Ireland. Strange to see whilst it's mostly similar in the UK there's lots of continental influences.
@@spuriouspodge7416 and it should be largely the same given that the 18th edition and IS10101 are based on the same harmonised EU standards. Though I've worked around Europe and there is still a lot of local variations.
Back when I was still working I was the king of finding lost legs / neutrals when my customers called our generator company. Probably half stated their gen set was going on and off every few minutes and that told me there was a wild voltage swing. I have found burned wires, bad breakers, toasted buss bars, plus fried crimps, and rubbed through insulation on the service wires. I had the power company and several "responsive" electricians on speed dial. (people I knew personally) I always had a pole number or street address with a cross street handy too boot. (years in the fire service paid off with details) BTW, I once found a meter pan that was live on the outside with sparks flying... and it was an underground service. The young electrician didn't know what to do so good thing I was there! We waited to have the power cut out at the pole. Be safe from lower CT USA.
Thibodaux, Louisiana. I actually kinda got a crash course in this after hurricane Ida, our mast got bent from the storm, we ended up not having power for like 2-3 weeks and were running off of a generac until the local grid could be brought back up. my father has been a lineman since the '80s and my grandfather has been an electrician since god knows when, I felt so lost watching them/being a tool gopher since I'm just an automotive technician, they were able to replace the mast and re-conduct it with copper since it originally had aluminum wire. it was really interesting being able to see that aspect of the job
Thanks for the video.I replaced our meter not knowing any better about pulling one.It had a buzzing sound and one leg would cause dim lights when the furnace came on. I stopped by electric company warehouse and picked up a new box free and called them to turn off for a few hours . I was amazed I could do it for free but prob best leave to electrician.
Here in the UK our meters have the terminals built in but the same thing can happen especially if the terminals aren't torqued down. But all connections to the meter and before are the responsibility of the power companies (although technically the 'tails' (double insulated cables) from the meter to the breaker panel are property of the homeowner. With regard to PPE we tend to use hard hats with a built in arc flash visor.
I do handyman work in Mississippi had a customer call me and he said his lights worked but were flickering and nothing else worked when I checked his house he only had 120v a tree limb had rubbed through one leg of the service coming from the transformer.Stay safe out there👍👍
Hey Washington State, here. The storms and long nights have already started for our linemen and I'm thankful they're out there keeping the lights on and turning them back on when they go out. Thanks for the vid and stay safe.
Interesting video and very educational in my opinion. I'm from central NY I always enjoy seeing how others do these types of jobs. For myself I'm an ex cable install, turn telco lineman, then turned OSP engineer (due to the pandemic), now waiting on my on boarding paperwork to get into transmission work as an apprentice in MA. Keep up the good work my friend, stay safe and as we always say in my area always watch your overhead. By the your Milwaukee hammer is pretty nice, I myself have the Madi multi purpose hammer and love how well it works.
Hello from Idaho! I'm surprised the line segment falls on the homeowner! I believe here the power company runs just about everything up to and including the meter.
Electrician from California I just ran across your channel, i only watched about 4 or 4 videos so far and i find it very informative. I had an incident about a week ago with the meter being blank and the customer had flickering lights. Turns out it was an Edison issue, thanks.
At a large mobile home Park in Florida where my parents live, all the power is run underground and they have special multi meter socket boxes mounted on concrete posts so 4 house's meters share 1 post at the corner of the property line.
I had a bad connection on my service line once, it was dropping voltage just enough to make my AC hard to start sometimes, it wasn't dropping too much voltage, except one day it broke completely, lost half my house, the power guy saw it right away. He fixed it and my ACs worked flawlessly after that.
Missouri! I do overhead design/estimating for pole replacements. I'm never in the field so it's always great to see first hand experience. I was hoping to see you sag and splice the service up close. Maybe next time :)
Watching from Dripping Springs Texas and we have a terrific electric provider, Pedernales Electric. I invite lineman to deer hunt my property at no cost because they deserve some perks. Love the channel and keep up the great work.
Most folks don't understand the power available at a service drop. In the US, residential service, two phase, has a 100A breaker south of the meter. That drop is unfused on the supply side. It is a feed that services several homes. Current is limited only by the capacity of the transformer, at least on the secondary side. As a former fire captain, I have dealt with these drops. They are no joke! In a fire, those aluminum conductors can let go. My crew is under them. Respect, sir!
Standard residential power in USA is single phase 2 pole or leg . 120/240,with center tapped neutral at transformer, supplying 120 from either hot leg to neutral and 220 to 240 across both hot legs.
Here in Texas and our power company it’s our responsibility for everything in the meter loop up to the line side lugs. We always carry spare guts, spare riser pipe, spare riser wire and all. But good catch! Stay safe
Awesome video! Watching from Jersey. I'm going to a trade school to become an electrician. But the whole idea of becoming a lineman is always in the back of my head!
Bob, take a close look at the distance of the fastener sticking out of the bad lug, then the good one on the lug on the left side I would say that that heat damage may have been caused by a loose connection on the right 4/0 copper conductor.
Here in BC Canada, according to the hydro standard, the bare neutral must be dead ended on a secondary clevis with white spool ins. Cannot just be hung on a j-hook. Same at customers mast. I'm a retired Lineman of over 50 yrs experience. Steel 500kv, distribution & underground. Used to carry spare meter socket parts in case old folks couldn't afford an electrician or sometimes thousands of outages. We'd go the extra mile to help but not our normal thing to do
Watching from Crystal, MN. I would have thought the meter socket would need to be upgraded. I recall when upgrading about 17 years ago, new meter sockets have to have an internal bypass switch. Glad to see the electrician could replace the lugs though. That was a close call for the homeowner. Fortunately it didn't burn down the home. Like your videos. I have always liked all things electrical. As a kid, I would tell my grandma what a beautiful extension cord she had. I would sometimes go to bed with a cord vs a blanket. My wife still rolls her eyes about my fascination with extension cords. BTW... Would you do a video about pole tagging and what it means? I noticed the power pole holding the transformer behind our house had a new red tag. Looked it up, and it says do not climb... personally I think it should be replaced as it is visiblly cracking apart at the base. Would be nice to hear your take on the process of pole safety programs. Keep warm.
That's interesting didn't know that about the meter. Had a branch and subsequently another time wind take our line down. One of those times the mast snapped the junction on the top of the meter box and pulled one phase out but both the meter and half the house still had power.
Just a quick tip...I'm pretty sure that is a Murray-Jensen meterbase and in my area they have been known to fail. When prying up on the tab that locks the cover to the base those two rivots have sheared off due to rust/corrosion causing the cover to fall off and potentially contact the line side jaws . Be safe everyone.
Electrician on Mid Vancouver Island. Do a lot of service upgrades, pole replacements and of course fixing up storm damage to services from tree strikes on secondaries.
Good day Aaron, 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻 When you said the meter wasn’t “lit up”. Like you, I knew the problem was one dead leg. Digital electronic Itron meters need 240 volt to “read”. I had a customer that had a small work shop & never complained about his loss of one leg? He was only being charged for the meter charge or $15 a month. This went on for a long time & the older shop owner was getting free power. There was a change in tenants & the new tenant called to say they had part power. It was a bad linket at the weather head. Once I changed all the connections out? He had full power & the meter lit up. When you pulled the meter cover off. I looked to see if there were any meter boots in the bottom of the meter can? Often when meter service disconnects for nonpayment. They boot the meter which spreads the jaws on the line side ever so slightly. It’s a thin plastic boot that fits snugly on the meter lug. Every time the meter comes in & out with boots on the lug spreads the jaws & makes a looser & looser connection resulting in a part power call. The discoloration of the jaw is a tip off to heating inside the meter can. You were very wise to use all your P.P.E. in removing the meter with a meter puller off to the side. I prefer to just disconnect at the weather head to avoid a high energy flash. If the meter can feels warm or there is buzzing? I wouldn’t pull the meter. I would disconnect like you did. 👍
When my house's meter digital failed we got charged for 'estimated' power usage which was likely more than our actual usage. I'm surprised that the POCO would let them keep getting power if they couldn't get a good meter reading. Was it something where the meter was still powered but just reading zero? P.S. I'm not a lineman, just an interested electronics hobbyist.
Itron digital meters require 240 volts to read incoming usage from what I’m told by my meter department. One side working will render a blank screen & no readings. Yes, if the meter fails to read & the power company pulls the meter? They often install “jumpers” where the jaws are. They take the old meter back to the shop & give it to meter service. Meter service has regular business hours. They will issue a new meter & install later. In that short amount of time the power company will estimate usage based on previous months if they have that information? Yes, the estimate could be higher because they don’t know if your connected load would be more? Customers rarely inform the power company if they install say a big wall oven or a hot tub?
@@96ej Anything meter related goes to our meter department. It seems like every other month they are replacing meters here? I have an old (brand new)Itron on my truck. I’ll look to see what model it is? I know the earlier digital’s didn’t come on unless they had a full 240 volts. 120/70 volts won’t do it even with a good neutral
I have a electric meter in my hand from Itron. It’s type is a C2SR. 30TA. These will not light up unless they have a full 240 volts. This is the type I was referring to.
Upstate South Carolina.... I recently showed my nephew channel. He is currently going through a line men's course at Tricounty Tech... I am really hoping he takes your advice and listens to all your tips..
internal breakers should not have enough capacity at max load on each to overload that cable. There are known issues reported in the US about smart meters burning down homes.
Actually I had a very similar problem beginning of the year 2023 and I live in a old house. Electrician rewired the house and replaced the breaker boxes fuses and meter box. Still had partial power. Alabama power came and inspected the line And stated that a squirrel had chewed threw the linand it was hanging on by a thread, limiting voltage and causing everything past it to go haywire and then they had to replace the main line and smart meter. Lucky for me I'm just a renter and didn't have to fork out +$4k. I been reporting to the landlord for months that I could visibly and audibly see and hear arcing in the meter box whenever I would reset the fuses in the breaker box. I imagine that multiple rooms using space heaters added to the acceleration and intensity of the problem. But honestly I just thank God it was wired correctly and breakers and fuses actually cut power before a fire started or something worse. All because of a damn psychotic squirrel 😅 Power man said this is the first time he's ever experienced in his 15+ year career. Must be some good power lol
Had a similar problem at my business, neutral had rotted off right at the pole. Power was going up and down like crazy, blew up my fax machine and several surge protectors, I flipped all but 1 breaker just so I could watch the vtage on a meter, 60-200v it was swinging. Call power company, guy came out and swore blue in the face it was my equipments fault whilst standing at the breaker panel with all the switches off, no draw at all. Took him 30+mins to believe me even after shutting the main 200A breaker off several times with his meter attached to the infeed side and it made no difference. Just damaged one of my fridges. Lost faith in Atco that day, especially when they refused to replace my burned up equipment, some $4000.
at my business had a 200 amp fuse blow on a 4160 feed. no reason as that part was a storage area with only a couple lights on. so we call national grid. they come out cut the power but find one of their switches on the pole is bad so they caused the issue. they won't reconnect until we replace the fuse and get a high voltage electrical inspection and cert. so we call the hv electrical they come out meggar the inside transformer and say they will quote the fuses. comes back 2500 a piece and have to change all 3 because some were 100's some were 150's. ( previous owner did that.) so i go to ebay and find 3 fuses 200 amp 5kv for 200 bucks total. get them in and install. then have to call hv tech who comes over says everything is good but power company now wants city inspector to check it. holy shit what a hassle. so now the hv tech has to get the city guy in who finally comes by and they ok it so they turn the power back on. 3 weeks for all that. and my bill for hv tech 1790.00 bucks for about 3 hours actual time.
It's more of a technicality with codes... Pretty much all installs are 200 amp now. That requires a minum 3/0 copper or 250mcm aluminum! I'll still see 100's pop up on camps from time to time
Where I live in Louisiana, we have ringless meter sockets. You remove the cover and then pull the meter. I never thought about it before, but it is probably safer to open when there might be a “surprise” hiding behind the cover.
@@grabasandwich I have a manufactured home, with a 200A service. The electric furnace is double bussed, and runs at 91A. The inrush is prolly near 100A. You don't want my electric bill in the winter, even down here in Massachusetts. Be safe!
Here in Arizona - at least at the electric company I retired from - the meter and everything on the hot side of it are the responsibility of the utility.
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I wasn't planning on capturing any footage on this particular job, but wanted to share with you all how bad this guy's wires heated up! If your lights start acting up, don't wait to call an electrician or your local power company to investigate further! I was happy that everything worked out for this home owner in the end! 😌 A few un expected costs are never good news, but it could have been a lot worse and now everything is safe. Have a great weeks Guys and Girls! 👊👊🍻
P.S - I left in a lot of my "rambling on" as a result of popular request 🤣😁
Watching from NE Ga USA 🇺🇸
The costumer has pulled too much current power/current for the connection, or the connection got lose and the contact area decreased. First option more probable I guess
It's interesting how the meter housing and mast is the responsibility of the home owner as I would consider it part of the meter itself. In the UK the meter and all cabling up to the meter and any associated isolation switch and main fuse are usually the distribution network's responsibility to maintain and they have legal obligations to repair and replace faulty equipment in what is a fairly short time after reporting. This has obvious benefits as it means that when responding to a faulty supply such as this there is no reason to have to get a 3rd party electrician involved (unless the fault is caused by wiring in the home itself but in that case the DNO will still repair the fault and isolate by removing the main fuse) so meter and wiring faults such as this can be rectified quicker without all the permit overheads and return visits to reconnect. This also ensures that dangerous faults are more likely to be reported and repaired as there is no direct cost to the end customer.
@@ThePoxun unfortunately this is how it goes most of the time.. it's completely profit driven. 99% of companies operate to do the least work as possible.. any opportunity to "pass the buck" will always be taken..I don't believe that junction should be the customers responsibility.. now inside the house, fair game.. if you're causing faults internally that's on you.
@@ljgil850 ... nothing to do with $$ and everything to do with code compliance. The guys from your local power company are not trained in anything to do with building codes, including wire size, proper termination inside those boxes, etc. Here in North America the power company brings power up to the entry point on a building and that's it. That means the weather head up on the eve of the house or a weather head out at the pole on top of YOUR conduit. Their responsibility ends at the end of the service wire. You own the rest.
Down in this part of the world meter loops to a mobile home must be mounted on a meter pole within 30' of the mobile home. It's interesting to see how codes are in different parts of the country and other countries. Stay Safe keeping the fire in the wires Brother.
He's in Canada
Yeah. I've chatted with him before.
We've still got a few around like that! They used to run a tec cable from the pedestal or pole over to the mini home. It wasn't a bad setup. Less of a mess at actual mini home Parcs.... Didn't have 4 wires coming of a central pole
that's a common practice where code dictates the meter / service must be attached to a permanent structure. Since most mobile homes are NOT permanent structures, well, you get the idea. I'm sure there are grey areas in the rules for anything set on pilings or a foundation, despite the structure style.
In Canada they also mount panels horizontal. From what I've heard they don't allow for branch circuits to cross over the feeder wires, so they usually come in the side of the panel and make the shortest run to the breaker.
I really enjoy your videos. I did A/C in Phoenix for over 25 years and saw some pretty gnarly wires and crappy, sloppy repairs. I got tired of crawling through 170 degree attics and no A/C calls at 2 AM on a Saturday and it slipped out that it was out since Tuesday, I switched to hotel and apartment maintenance (saw some REALLY scary stuff there). I retired 5 years ago and moved up to BFE Montana. don't miss it at all. Stay safe.
I had a situation where the mast broke off from the top of the meter can. Local utility guys came out to inspect it and said they would have to disconnect power. Got to talking to guys and they noticed for a 200A service, the drop was only sized for 100A. They scheduled to replace the drop the next day and said "If while we're running the new drop, the mast magically repairs itself, we have no issues". He did stress to not touch the actual connections in the meter can. So we bought a new mast and weatherhead. When they showed up the next day, they cut power and started changing the drop. I have the mast swapped in 30 minutes. Linesmen made a comment that he's seen electricians take all day to do that. They reconnected power and all was good!
you own it, the line is dead, you can repair it, in most cases. The only exceptions I have seen on that rule is if it's a rental property where ALL repairs must be done by a licensed sparky.
I don’t know why they didn’t replace your service that night? I can replace it by myself in under 2 hours. Yes #4 aluminum is rated for 100 amps. The gold standard is #2 aluminum which is rated at 200 amps.
@@johnclyne6350 ... and that's the difference between the power company standards and building code. Utility uses #4 AL triplex for a 100 amp service, but only because you seldom draw the full amount for any length of time... and... it's considered "free air" with no secondary wrap holding in the heat. I think you will find the voltage drop at 100 amps is approaching 20% over 100 feet. Same with #2 AL triplex. The free air rating allows something approaching 200 amps for short spells with maybe a 15% voltage drop. That's not acceptable for a home's inside wiring. Even #4/0 AL outside service cable is only rated for around 180 amps at 5% voltage drop, but it's allowed because it's mostly on the outside, not buried in a wall. Utilities have have a WHOLE DIFFERENT set of rules they play by that don't meet indoor building codes.
@@johnclyne6350 They told me that they had just come from a drop replacement and didn't have enough cable to do it then. IIRC it is 3/0 copper from the meter to the weatherhead, and 2/0 copper drop.
@@neonhomer Everyone I work with keeps a well stocked truck. Each truck keeps a coil of service wire with enough wire on it for two drops. It’s possible that the crew that showed up didn’t have enough wire for your house if they had a very busy night or the run from your house was longer than a coil of wire (250’)? However most people I work with wouldn’t hesitate to drive back to the shop & load what they needed for that job & head back out while the other lineman initiated repairs.
Nice to see folks thinking ahead and positively trying help the customer. Good on you. Seen wires heated up so much that they were all that was left in the heap of ash- after we’d put the fire out. Watching from Saxilby, nr Lincoln, UK.
New Jersey USA I love when our guys dont drive the j hooks in far enough and snow weight pops them right out. You can see the depth right on the rings. Nice work be safe
Watching from New Jersey USA.
Worked at a Science Center and the theater used a 15KW lamp that was powered by a rectifier supply 400 amps DC! You have respect what your working with always!
Thanks for your videos and your service. I am not a lineman. In 1970 my family and I moved from Lawtey, Florida to Liverpool, Nova Scotia. My mother died 6 months before. My dad and brother and 4 sisters wanted to get away. So off to Canada we went. But we only stayed for 3 months, we could not survive on the low income. My dad was an expert printer he went to work for the newspaper and my two older sisters went to work at a laundry making 90 cents an hour. There was 7 of us. But we left and went to Richmond, Virginia. Now I am living in Jacksonville, Florida. I watch your videos because I am a hobbyist electronic guro and it reminds me of Nova Scotia.
Watching from Maryland. Great video. I'm glad the customer was able to get that fixed quickly. Things like that always happen at the most inopportune time and can be devastating to someone who doesn't have the resources to get it fixed. A lot of people would have just unhooked it and walked away but you put in the extra effort to see to it they got it straight. Thank you for being awesome and stay safe out there.
Thanks Jamey! Cheers!
Watching from Port Orchard Washington - near Seattle.
Thanks to all the lineman keeping us warm this wild winter.
My husband and I watch your vlogs. He was an EE with central and northern IL utility companies for decades. We really enjoy seeing how you handle all sorts of situations.
Im watching from NJ im a industrial electrician for 10 years now i went to lineman School and unfortunately no one would give me a chance when i got out. But what your doing is my dream im so glad i found your channel you do a great job showing us
Watching from Umpire, Arkansas. My son is currently a journeyman lineman and I have engineering background. I really enjoy the way you explain what you are doing and why. Stay safe and throw in a eh every now and then!
A bushing pulled out of the transformer across my street a couple years ago, one leg went bad swinging all around from 0 to 70 volts. Not good in the house... I opened breakers real quick and called it in.. your boys fixed us up pretty quick. (new transformer)
Hi Arron I’m from mesa ,Arizona I’m a A/c tech had to learn about loops in school even though I don’t have to deal with them . Love your videos people don’t realize how dangerous your job is .
I'm watching from Lima Ohio, which is part of Northwest Ohio. Here we still have lots of 60,70 7 100 amp service & meter bases. My house is one of those with what is likely 60 or 70 amp and the entrance cable runs under the soffit the entire length of the house about 50 feet or so. The wire is so old that the insulation is actually cracked and looks very brittle. Another interesting thing about my electric is I still have some knob & tube wiring still in service which is surprisingly in really good condition.
Hello from the desert, Phoenix AZ. My dad was a journeyman thru IBEW 640 here for well north of 40 years before he retired in 2005. He taught me alot but he wasnt a lineman he did exclusively commercial, industrial installs for as long as I can remember.the copper mines, IBM, that sort of thing. Thank you and be safe.
Same guide lines we follow here in New England i work for National Grid in MA/RI and we follow the same process it’s amazing to see the videos you share hope to be a lineman soon! work hard and stay safe! Been an inspiration for me for a long time!!! Thank you!!!
Working in Telecom as a installer, you just made me buy that Milwaukee hammer for j-hooks ! Great work keep it up
Aaron. Thanks for this video. What I especially loved about it is your concern for that customer. Living in a mobile home myself I am all too well aware how vitally important heat can be....mobile homes cool off fast if the heat fails. At 77 years old... we kinda feel the cold more than I used too in my younger days. Great to note the working relation between the line guys and the local electricians.... sadly... that ain't always the case, but to see you folks working together just gladdens my heart.
Aaron.... keep up these videos. While I am in Ireland.... things might be a wee bit different here.... but many of the messages are the same. Your hints and tips... and concerns for safety of yr own crew and that of the customer(s) are very very much noticed and APPRECIATED. that customer must consider himself lucky.. this story could have had a very different ending, with the fire service playing a major role.
Albert.
I enjoy watching your thinking process to narrow down where the problem is. First, other neighbors didn't call, so assume it's localized to that one household. Then the matter of cutting the lines before pulling the meter for safety. That you worked with an electrician and got electricity that night is impressive. Palm Desert (Palm Springs), CA.
Had similar happen to me. Overheating turned the meter base into crispy charcoal and the heat damaged insulation for feeders going into the main panel. Another symptom besides flickering can be condensation of yellowish brownish scum on the inside of the meter glass. Glad I had a great electrician who fixed everything pretty quickly.
Watching from Connecticut, USA. Love the videos! Fellow electrician
Thanks for another interesting video. I’m in Yorkshire in the UK and it’s great to see how different things are done in Canada compared with here.
We have such a better and safer system them Canada and America they are so way behind compered to us in Britain
Illinois here. Have learned a lot from your channel. Engineer working in the AV/Lighting industry both install & event production so deal with temp power a lot.
This reminds me of an incident I had working at a friend's house years ago. She was doing something in the kitchen that required pulling the gas stove away from the wall. We shut the gas off, pulled the stove out a little, and disconnected the gas line. As I was disconnecting it, I got a shock! I had a meter with me and measured about 70 volts between the frame of the stove and the gas pipe. I poked around a little more, and also measured 70 volts between both the neutral and ground of the outlet the stove plugged into, and the gas pipe (it was the nearest grounded object). Turns out the outlet was wired with *two wire* romex... hot, neutral, and no ground. They'd connected the outlet ground (and box) to the neutral line! And there was a fault in the neutral connection in the main breaker panel such that it wasn't connected to ground or incoming neutral, it was just floating.
Whenever electronics engineers ask why neutral and ground are kept separated - because there's no *electrical* reason - this is the answer. They don't need to be separate until there's a fault and then you're glad they're separate
Currently in school to become a lineman in Ontario Canada. I love your content and it does help me understand more what my teachers are talking about
Great video! Interesting to see how different the service entries are there to where I am (Ireland). The final leg on the connection to houses in rural areas is now under ground from the last pole. The customer has to install a 2" red duct from the pole, with a hockey stick up into the wall cavity into a flush mounted GRP metering cabinet. The supply company then runs a concentric cable (of course we only have 1 phase and neutral) to their fuse unit in the cabinet, then the meter, and into an isolation switch. From there the customer must have a B63 MCB (63A), with 3 x 16mmsq SWA to the main board, and 16mmsq PVC/PVC tails which the electrician connects to the DSO (Distribution System Operator) isolator. That's for the standard 12KVA domestic supply, but with heat pumps and EVs they now offer 15KVA and 20KVA single phase, and 3 phase connections for domestic houses.
In the UK we use a 100a main cut out in a lot of places. My 3 bed terrace has a 100a cut out fuse but my dad's 4 bed house only had a 63a MCB in Ireland. Strange to see whilst it's mostly similar in the UK there's lots of continental influences.
@@spuriouspodge7416 and it should be largely the same given that the 18th edition and IS10101 are based on the same harmonised EU standards. Though I've worked around Europe and there is still a lot of local variations.
watching from the Philippines. i'm an electrical engineer but i always want to be a lineman.
Back when I was still working I was the king of finding lost legs / neutrals when my customers called our generator company. Probably half stated their gen set was going on and off every few minutes and that told me there was a wild voltage swing. I have found burned wires, bad breakers, toasted buss bars, plus fried crimps, and rubbed through insulation on the service wires. I had the power company and several "responsive" electricians on speed dial. (people I knew personally) I always had a pole number or street address with a cross street handy too boot. (years in the fire service paid off with details) BTW, I once found a meter pan that was live on the outside with sparks flying... and it was an underground service. The young electrician didn't know what to do so good thing I was there! We waited to have the power cut out at the pole. Be safe from lower CT USA.
Thibodaux, Louisiana. I actually kinda got a crash course in this after hurricane Ida, our mast got bent from the storm, we ended up not having power for like 2-3 weeks and were running off of a generac until the local grid could be brought back up. my father has been a lineman since the '80s and my grandfather has been an electrician since god knows when, I felt so lost watching them/being a tool gopher since I'm just an automotive technician, they were able to replace the mast and re-conduct it with copper since it originally had aluminum wire. it was really interesting being able to see that aspect of the job
Good videos. Retired lineman/servicer from northern Indiana, USA.
Great service. You guys really look after your customers. 👍👍👍
Thanks for the video.I replaced our meter not knowing any better about pulling one.It had a buzzing sound and one leg would cause dim lights when the furnace came on. I stopped by electric company warehouse and picked up a new box free and called them to turn off for a few hours . I was amazed I could do it for free but prob best leave to electrician.
Here in the UK our meters have the terminals built in but the same thing can happen especially if the terminals aren't torqued down. But all connections to the meter and before are the responsibility of the power companies (although technically the 'tails' (double insulated cables) from the meter to the breaker panel are property of the homeowner. With regard to PPE we tend to use hard hats with a built in arc flash visor.
I do handyman work in Mississippi had a customer call me and he said his lights worked but were flickering and nothing else worked when I checked his house he only had 120v a tree limb had rubbed through one leg of the service coming from the transformer.Stay safe out there👍👍
46 yr employee from Indianapolis Power and Light {now AES Indiana). Great videos.
Hey Washington State, here. The storms and long nights have already started for our linemen and I'm thankful they're out there keeping the lights on and turning them back on when they go out. Thanks for the vid and stay safe.
Interesting video and very educational in my opinion. I'm from central NY
I always enjoy seeing how others do these types of jobs.
For myself I'm an ex cable install, turn telco lineman, then turned OSP engineer (due to the pandemic), now waiting on my on boarding paperwork to get into transmission work as an apprentice in MA.
Keep up the good work my friend, stay safe and as we always say in my area always watch your overhead.
By the your Milwaukee hammer is pretty nice, I myself have the Madi multi purpose hammer and love how well it works.
Hello from Idaho! I'm surprised the line segment falls on the homeowner! I believe here the power company runs just about everything up to and including the meter.
Electrician from California
I just ran across your channel, i only watched about 4 or 4 videos so far and i find it very informative.
I had an incident about a week ago with the meter being blank and the customer had flickering lights. Turns out it was an Edison issue, thanks.
At a large mobile home Park in Florida where my parents live, all the power is run underground and they have special multi meter socket boxes mounted on concrete posts so 4 house's meters share 1 post at the corner of the property line.
I had a bad connection on my service line once, it was dropping voltage just enough to make my AC hard to start sometimes, it wasn't dropping too much voltage, except one day it broke completely, lost half my house, the power guy saw it right away. He fixed it and my ACs worked flawlessly after that.
I always enjoy your videos, even though I'm an auto mechanic. I find your line of work fascinating. Greetings from southern New Jersey!
Missouri! I do overhead design/estimating for pole replacements. I'm never in the field so it's always great to see first hand experience. I was hoping to see you sag and splice the service up close. Maybe next time :)
Yes for sure! I've got a go pro setup, but it was at home at the time. I was wishing it was on board when I decided to record
Orlando Florida. Great video thanks! My kitchen lights cut out for a moment only when the oven is on.
I should probably get that looked at.
of course.
Yeah like yesterday. That's nothing to fool around with.
Watching from Dripping Springs Texas and we have a terrific electric provider, Pedernales Electric. I invite lineman to deer hunt my property at no cost because they deserve some perks. Love the channel and keep up the great work.
That's pretty cool of ya! Cheers to that 🦌 😎👊
Pedernales is great. Used to live in hill country TX.
Most folks don't understand the power available at a service drop.
In the US, residential service, two phase, has a 100A breaker south of the meter.
That drop is unfused on the supply side. It is a feed that services several homes. Current is limited only by the capacity of the transformer, at least on the secondary side.
As a former fire captain, I have dealt with these drops. They are no joke! In a fire, those aluminum conductors can let go. My crew is under them.
Respect, sir!
Standard residential power in USA is single phase 2 pole or leg . 120/240,with center tapped neutral at transformer, supplying 120 from either hot leg to neutral and 220 to 240 across both hot legs.
Watching from the lower 48 on the East coast. North Carolina. Love what you do. Thanks. Stay safe buddy!
I'm in the US, Columbus Ga. Like watching some of your videos. Great information and nice to learn about the things you do on the jobs.
Here in Texas and our power company it’s our responsibility for everything in the meter loop up to the line side lugs. We always carry spare guts, spare riser pipe, spare riser wire and all. But good catch! Stay safe
Electrician watchin from Quebec! Nice work 👍
Awesome video! Watching from Jersey. I'm going to a trade school to become an electrician. But the whole idea of becoming a lineman is always in the back of my head!
Great video! I like seeing Electricians, from different tech fields, come together for one goal! Watching from Denton, Texas!
Bob, take a close look at the distance of the fastener sticking out of the bad lug, then the good one on the lug on the left side I would say that that heat damage may have been caused by a loose connection on the right
4/0 copper conductor.
Watching from sunny Southern California where it is not freezing, enjoy watching your videos keep up the good work
Here in BC Canada, according to the hydro standard, the bare neutral must be dead ended on a secondary clevis with white spool ins. Cannot just be hung on a j-hook. Same at customers mast. I'm a retired Lineman of over 50 yrs experience. Steel 500kv, distribution & underground. Used to carry spare meter socket parts in case old folks couldn't afford an electrician or sometimes thousands of outages. We'd go the extra mile to help but not our normal thing to do
Phoenix, AZ, USA. Still need the A/C occasionally.
Lol I'm kinda jealous! But the cold kills off all the mosquitoes ... So it's bitter sweet!
Hobbs, NM. USA. Agreed, got pricked by quite a few yesterday evening. Also still using a/c.
I flinched when you reached in the meter box and touched the lug with your finger.😅
Thanks from Santa Monica, California.
Watching from Crystal, MN.
I would have thought the meter socket would need to be upgraded. I recall when upgrading about 17 years ago, new meter sockets have to have an internal bypass switch.
Glad to see the electrician could replace the lugs though. That was a close call for the homeowner. Fortunately it didn't burn down the home.
Like your videos. I have always liked all things electrical. As a kid, I would tell my grandma what a beautiful extension cord she had. I would sometimes go to bed with a cord vs a blanket. My wife still rolls her eyes about my fascination with extension cords.
BTW... Would you do a video about pole tagging and what it means? I noticed the power pole holding the transformer behind our house had a new red tag. Looked it up, and it says do not climb... personally I think it should be replaced as it is visiblly cracking apart at the base. Would be nice to hear your take on the process of pole safety programs.
Keep warm.
That's interesting didn't know that about the meter. Had a branch and subsequently another time wind take our line down. One of those times the mast snapped the junction on the top of the meter box and pulled one phase out but both the meter and half the house still had power.
Great video. Always try to watch them while enjoying my morning coffee up here in Upstate N.Y. 👍
Chesterfield Michigan, Lots of good information , thanks!!
Great video/content Aaron. Always helpful tips, as well. “Aluminum on top, copper on the bottom!”
Like good cookware pans - copper on the bottom!
Watching from Locust Grove Georgia. Really enjoy your videos.
Watching from Texas, keep up the good work brother!
Just a quick tip...I'm pretty sure that is a Murray-Jensen meterbase and in my area they have been known to fail. When prying up on the tab that locks the cover to the base those two rivots have sheared off due to rust/corrosion causing the cover to fall off and potentially contact the line side jaws .
Be safe everyone.
Thanks great tip! 🦉👊👊
I hate those old meter sockets like that with the tab. I wonder why they weren't always ring less.
Super nice videos !
Continue like this.
Actual worker of the national electrical grid company from France :)
Great video and good recommendations on safety! I am watching from Graham North Carolina!
Electrician on Mid Vancouver Island. Do a lot of service upgrades, pole replacements and of course fixing up storm damage to services from tree strikes on secondaries.
Good day Aaron, 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
When you said the meter wasn’t “lit up”. Like you, I knew the problem was one dead leg. Digital electronic Itron meters need 240 volt to “read”. I had a customer that had a small work shop & never complained about his loss of one leg? He was only being charged for the meter charge or $15 a month. This went on for a long time & the older shop owner was getting free power. There was a change in tenants & the new tenant called to say they had part power. It was a bad linket at the weather head. Once I changed all the connections out? He had full power & the meter lit up.
When you pulled the meter cover off. I looked to see if there were any meter boots in the bottom of the meter can? Often when meter service disconnects for nonpayment. They boot the meter which spreads the jaws on the line side ever so slightly. It’s a thin plastic boot that fits snugly on the meter lug. Every time the meter comes in & out with boots on the lug spreads the jaws & makes a looser & looser connection resulting in a part power call. The discoloration of the jaw is a tip off to heating inside the meter can. You were very wise to use all your P.P.E. in removing the meter with a meter puller off to the side. I prefer to just disconnect at the weather head to avoid a high energy flash. If the meter can feels warm or there is buzzing? I wouldn’t pull the meter. I would disconnect like you did. 👍
When my house's meter digital failed we got charged for 'estimated' power usage which was likely more than our actual usage. I'm surprised that the POCO would let them keep getting power if they couldn't get a good meter reading. Was it something where the meter was still powered but just reading zero?
P.S. I'm not a lineman, just an interested electronics hobbyist.
Itron digital meters require 240 volts to read incoming usage from what I’m told by my meter department. One side working will render a blank screen & no readings.
Yes, if the meter fails to read & the power company pulls the meter? They often install “jumpers” where the jaws are. They take the old meter back to the shop & give it to meter service. Meter service has regular business hours. They will issue a new meter & install later. In that short amount of time the power company will estimate usage based on previous months if they have that information? Yes, the estimate could be higher because they don’t know if your connected load would be more? Customers rarely inform the power company if they install say a big wall oven or a hot tub?
A 2s itron will light up on 120v, they'll also light up if on leg is out but has a path to ground.
@@96ej Anything meter related goes to our meter department. It seems like every other month they are replacing meters here? I have an old (brand new)Itron on my truck. I’ll look to see what model it is? I know the earlier digital’s didn’t come on unless they had a full 240 volts. 120/70 volts won’t do it even with a good neutral
I have a electric meter in my hand from Itron. It’s type is a C2SR. 30TA. These will not light up unless they have a full 240 volts. This is the type I was referring to.
Good work Erin. Your a very good safe worker.
Barrie Ontario Canada.
Thanks Michael! 🇨🇦
Great customer service thanks for posting great job be safe 👍 Mike iron river m.i.
I am watching from Albuquerque, NM.
Great Job, I really enjoy your commintary!
I saw a short on the pole serving a set of service drops, 5:am two houses away, dayum
that was scary, very loud, and very bright.
Good job Aaron.
Upstate South Carolina.... I recently showed my nephew channel. He is currently going through a line men's course at Tricounty Tech... I am really hoping he takes your advice and listens to all your tips..
Great videos! Enjoying watching them here from Asheville, NC.
Edmonton Alberta here. Love your videos.
I watch your videos from out here in the front room, by the space heater. Stay Safe out there! -Bob...
Over here in Jacksonville Alabama thanks for the share be blessed
Watching from perth Australia. Love what you do. Great WORK.
I just bought the 7/16 impact from Milwaukee because you like it and it makes me money
What kind of power was he pulling??? Jesus man....ol buddy must have a grow room inside...
internal breakers should not have enough capacity at max load on each to overload that cable. There are known issues reported in the US about smart meters burning down homes.
most mobile homes of this age are crazy with power draw because there's electric heat and also heat tapes to keep pipes from freezing.
Or a bitcoin mining operation.
Actually I had a very similar problem beginning of the year 2023 and I live in a old house. Electrician rewired the house and replaced the breaker boxes fuses and meter box. Still had partial power. Alabama power came and inspected the line
And stated that a squirrel had chewed threw the linand it was hanging on by a thread, limiting voltage and causing everything past it to go haywire and then they had to replace the main line and smart meter. Lucky for me I'm just a renter and didn't have to fork out +$4k. I been reporting to the landlord for months that I could visibly and audibly see and hear arcing in the meter box whenever I would reset the fuses in the breaker box. I imagine that multiple rooms using space heaters added to the acceleration and intensity of the problem. But honestly I just thank God it was wired correctly and breakers and fuses actually cut power before a fire started or something worse. All because of a damn psychotic squirrel 😅 Power man said this is the first time he's ever experienced in his 15+ year career. Must be some good power lol
@@wazza33racer very much so.... my Smart meter was fried worse than the one in this video
Florida here we are converting all these overhead services to new underground services.
Another Great job.
Olympia Washington, USA
Great explanation!
Always enjoy your videos. Watching from Lafayette Indiana.
Great trouble call. Good job. Chiming in from Santa Cruz, CA.
Had a similar problem at my business, neutral had rotted off right at the pole. Power was going up and down like crazy, blew up my fax machine and several surge protectors, I flipped all but 1 breaker just so I could watch the vtage on a meter, 60-200v it was swinging. Call power company, guy came out and swore blue in the face it was my equipments fault whilst standing at the breaker panel with all the switches off, no draw at all. Took him 30+mins to believe me even after shutting the main 200A breaker off several times with his meter attached to the infeed side and it made no difference. Just damaged one of my fridges. Lost faith in Atco that day, especially when they refused to replace my burned up equipment, some $4000.
at my business had a 200 amp fuse blow on a 4160 feed. no reason as that part was a storage area with only a couple lights on. so we call national grid. they come out cut the power but find one of their switches on the pole is bad so they caused the issue. they won't reconnect until we replace the fuse and get a high voltage electrical inspection and cert. so we call the hv electrical they come out meggar the inside transformer and say they will quote the fuses.
comes back 2500 a piece and have to change all 3 because some were 100's some were 150's. ( previous owner did that.)
so i go to ebay and find 3 fuses 200 amp 5kv for 200 bucks total. get them in and install. then have to call hv tech who comes over says everything is good but power company now wants city inspector to check it. holy shit what a hassle.
so now the hv tech has to get the city guy in who finally comes by and they ok it so they turn the power back on. 3 weeks for all that. and my bill for hv tech 1790.00 bucks for about 3 hours actual time.
Damn 4/0 cu for a mobile home! What’s my dude got a growery!?! Nice tips like always man!! 👊🏻
Is that overkill even if they have an electric furnace?
It's more of a technicality with codes... Pretty much all installs are 200 amp now. That requires a minum 3/0 copper or 250mcm aluminum!
I'll still see 100's pop up on camps from time to time
Where I live in Louisiana, we have ringless meter sockets. You remove the cover and then pull the meter. I never thought about it before, but it is probably safer to open when there might be a “surprise” hiding behind the cover.
We've got a few of those kicking around. I've always liked them better for that exact reason.
@@grabasandwich I have a manufactured home, with a 200A service. The electric furnace is double bussed, and runs at 91A. The inrush is prolly near 100A. You don't want my electric bill in the winter, even down here in Massachusetts. Be safe!
Here in Arizona - at least at the electric company I retired from - the meter and everything on the hot side of it are the responsibility of the utility.
New favorite TH-cam channel!
I always watch your videos...im a lineman from Philippines..stay safe 👊
Scotsburn, Nova Scotia
Nice job
Interesting video as always
I love Milwaukee tools!
Nice job dude. Electrician watching. I live in Ontario, but at the moment I’m watching from Nunavut!
Still watching from New Zealand .am guessing line company demarc is top of house mast ,what about underground service.Keep the vlogs coming.🇳🇿🦺❤️🪜
Watching from Edinburgh! Love these videos.
watching from New Zealand. Very interesting