Does Anakin Skywalker Have an Arc?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2023
  • Yes. He does. A very tragic and complex one. The prequel trilogy seems silly at first glance, which is precisely why its protagonist's arc works so well. Its tragedy contrasts so intensely with the trilogy's initial whimsy. Anakin's transformation throughout the prequel trilogy is a tour de force of writing, and writers can learn a lot by looking a little deeper at these films.
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  • @josh_from_xboxlive
    @josh_from_xboxlive  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

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  • @leoroemer6085
    @leoroemer6085 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +778

    After Anakin turns to the dark side, his speech and mannerisms start to resemble that of Darth Vader in the suit. Pay close attention to how he uses his hands to add emphasis when he talks and the intonation of his voice changes to sound more elegant and menacing than when he used to be on the light side.

    • @onemoreminute0543
      @onemoreminute0543 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      Exactly ! I always thought that if you put the Vader voice filter over the dialogue in those particular scenes, it'd be a perfect match.

    • @leoroemer6085
      @leoroemer6085 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

      @@onemoreminute0543 A Darth Vader who had not suffered from his injuries on Mustafar would be far more dangerous than he was in the suit. Not because of his immense Force powers and potential, but because of his physical appearance to others. He would be more like a dark prince rather than some angry monster behind a mask.

    • @willfanofmanyii3751
      @willfanofmanyii3751 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@onemoreminute0543 Plus it was Hayden doing the Vader voice for the Episode 3 teaser.

    • @Ayyshaddy
      @Ayyshaddy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      i’ve always noticed that.

    • @RyanTheDark
      @RyanTheDark 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@leoroemer6085 One can argue that Vader behind the suit is less terrifying than suitless Vader even if we only seen him without the suit for a short time. Look at that scene when he went to visit Padmé at 500 Republica. He was all fidgety and seems to be holding back a thread.

  • @ZeroNeedsCoffee
    @ZeroNeedsCoffee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +988

    Qui gon is now my favorite star wars character after watching this. I never saw him like that. If he lived Anakin would never have become Darth Vader. Later Anakin would have told him about how Padme would die and Quigon would have helped him instead of Palpatine. Maybe they would have even brought down Palpatine together. Damn that's so sad how shit would have went down so much differently...

    • @fishraposo7192
      @fishraposo7192 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

      there is a deleted scene in phantom menace that sells this PERFECTLY. TLDR, Anakin is literally BEATING greedo because he accused him of cheating on the race, and qui gon talks him out of it and calms him down. It's handled PERFECTLY.

    • @offworlder1
      @offworlder1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      @@fishraposo7192 You beat me to it but yes that scene is so important as it shows even when pissed off Anakin did listen and defer to Qui-Gon’s wisdom. Even after he stops the fight Anakin listens to what he says. Apply that to an Anakin with Qui-Gon as his master and father figure, you get a much less angry Anakin since he would go to Qui-Gon for advice/help before letting his rage take over.
      It is also highly likely his mother would have been a priority to free once Naboo was over since Qui-Gon knew he needed his mother in his life.
      Qui-Gon was the key to a stable and structured life for Anakin, without him there Anakin was pretty much screwed.

    • @meechie9z
      @meechie9z 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@fishraposo7192where can I find this deleted scene??

    • @drkinferno72
      @drkinferno72 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Read somewhere that palpatine uses the exact same grooming tactics as a pedophile would

    • @cryguy0000
      @cryguy0000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Qui gon is definitely underrated. I wish he had more screen time, him and Mace Windu are two of the best parts of the prequels

  • @MidnightDubstep
    @MidnightDubstep 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +299

    What made Anakins arc so memorable that its the complete opposite from Lukes where Luke represents a heros journey and Anakin represents a heros failure and a path to villainy

    • @devonleeuw
      @devonleeuw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      He (anakin) also represents that even at the darkest of times, you can still redeem yourself if you just do the right thing.

    • @MidnightDubstep
      @MidnightDubstep 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @devonleeuw yup its crazy how Disney fails to see that when they wrote Rey

    •  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MidnightDubstepHave you seen Disney movies? Personally I like a lot of them but the way they are told don’t really lend themselves to the kind of story Star Wars needs. I’m not surprised so to speak!

    • @iroseart3369
      @iroseart3369 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      And this is reflected in the state of the galaxy as well. Anakin's fall to villainy comes with the galaxy being lost and Luke's rise to heroism comes with the galaxy being saved. These two stories fit narratively and there's cohesion there. This is why the sequels feel a little out of place because we never witness a fall as in depth as Anakins that leads to the rise of a new hero. The prequels gave the original trilogy more contex, explaining why the galaxy is broken, and the original trilogy could've served the sequels by showing us a peace that needed to protected (from a threat), not another broken universe that needed to be saved AGAIN.

    • @MidnightDubstep
      @MidnightDubstep 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @SamuelNoaGreen I have, don't get me wrong there is a lot to like about the sequel Trilogy but personally I didn't like the last jedi and the rise of skywalker. I did like the force awaken because the way Ray was able to win Kylo because it was Anger that she unleashed. The other ones idk what they did. But I respect your opinion my G

  • @ryutak777
    @ryutak777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +194

    I've always loved the way Camille Paglia explains the finale of Revenge Of The Sith because you can just feel the sheer emotional and it's quite difficult to explain how great and grand it truly is but somehow she does it.

    • @avenged7peep958
      @avenged7peep958 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      The finale of Revenge of the Sith is just purely amazing. The combo of the amazing visuals of the fight, the music, the symbolism, the emotion, what's at stake for the universe, the acting is perfectly executed. I don't understand how people didn't like it when it came out.

    • @reilysmith5187
      @reilysmith5187 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aadd2935 yes, but they can still make good points despite ther flaws.

    • @ThaMxUp
      @ThaMxUp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love the energy in this explanation so much

  • @three-moons6036
    @three-moons6036 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +209

    I love obi wan. He wanted to be anakins brother not his mentor. But he was forced to be a mentor. And it’s shown in the fact that they fail miserably when it’s a mentor thing and succeed when it’s brothers fighting.

    • @offworlder1
      @offworlder1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Remember too that Obi-Wan had just become a knight, lost his master in battle seeing him be killed, then an older unconventional student made his responsibility to fulfill his master’s dying wish.
      Anakin and Obi-Wan were both in a bad situation, they were great as brothers but Obi-Wan’s poor mentoring is due to him having no experience and being to much a “by the book” guy especially when that would not and did not work with Anakin.

    • @eleonorepb4565
      @eleonorepb4565 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      He was also forced to be a parental figure while barely an adult

    • @mattsell2361
      @mattsell2361 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      That’s why when people claim that anakin and obi wan not spending time together in episode 1 is bad writing are dumb. The whole point is they don’t have a relationship. Obi wan doesn’t train anakin out of love or because he cares about him like qui gon he is only fulfilling a promise to his master

    • @eleonorepb4565
      @eleonorepb4565 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@mattsell2361 I never heard that complain before

    • @offworlder1
      @offworlder1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@mattsell2361 One of the EU books or comics even has Obi-Wan say the only reason he is training Anakin is due to his promise to Qui-Gon, he did not think Anakin should have been trained if not for the promise nor would he have taken him as a student without the promise.

  • @svns4411
    @svns4411 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +479

    this is one of the most interesting, well structured, and digestible star wars analyses i’ve ever seen. it’s criminal you have so few subscribers

    • @equiinferno
      @equiinferno 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Very true! Very deep, eye-opening! Thank you, Josh!!

  • @metro25production
    @metro25production 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1297

    Hayden did a wonderful job by imitating both Jake Lloyd and James Earl Jones...the way he talks, with those pauses, remind me of OT portrayal of Vader. He did his best, and the way he closed the circle in "Obi Wan Kenobi" gave me chills. Can't wait to see more of him.

    • @user-xx6vy9ri8p
      @user-xx6vy9ri8p 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Even though both Obi-Wan and Anakin were destroyed in Kenobi show...

    • @metro25production
      @metro25production 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      @@user-xx6vy9ri8p that's what the internet say, I don't believe they are...It was the best Star Wars show for me, everything I wanted from in those 17 years since ROTS so I guess you and the Internet are all dead wrong

    • @samkornrumph8545
      @samkornrumph8545 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      It was atrocious. There was some interesting things in there like the spar flashback and Vader completely playing Reva (tho he should have made sure she was dead). The other duels were dumb, Reva was insufferable, and the continuity was just thrown out the window. Basically the only good things about this show were spectacle and nostalgia for the prequels. And the spectacle was pretty lackluster too. Disney can’t film lightsaber duels either. They just look horrible. Kenobi acted completely out of character for basically the entire show. The writers decided to make him weak and pathetic for no reason. He turns his back on the Force which he would NEVER DO. The whole reason he’s protecting Luke is so that he can train him as a Jedi. Why would he cut himself off from the Force when he’s supposed to be training to become a Force Ghost?
      It’s not just internet hate. It’s actually a bad show.

    • @metro25production
      @metro25production 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@samkornrumph8545 then you really should stop watching star wars because disney will continue to ruin YOUR head canon about things you think those characters NEVER would do 🤣🤣🤣

    • @megaman37456
      @megaman37456 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      @@metro25production Except Obi-Wan wasn't EVER meant to fight Vader until their encounter on the Death Star after Mustufar. I don't consider Disney Star Wars canon to Lucas Star Wars solely because of continuity bastardization like that.
      "When I left you I was but the learner, now *I* am the master!" - Darth Vader
      This line implies Vader hadn't seen Obi-Wan since his loss to him on Mustufar in fact I'd say it outright confirms it as Anakin was neither a Sith Lord or Jedi Master at that point, a learner to both at that time, cut to present day and he is an established Sith Lord, a master if you will.

  • @davidwindell
    @davidwindell 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    Revenge was always my favorite Star Wars movie, and I always got crap for it, but people are finally realizing how great that third prequel actually was. It’s incredible storytelling.

    • @Danny____22
      @Danny____22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      The soundtrack, the duals, the emotion, order 66. The most perfect movie ever. I don't give a fuck if I get hate for that. All the prequels were good. They're watchable people just like to hate. Haters even used to hate the OT.

    • @goldenapplesaga5446
      @goldenapplesaga5446 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@Anakin01010 So long as I live on God's green earth I will defend the Prequels vehemently

    • @Danny____22
      @Danny____22 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@goldenapplesaga5446 that's exactly what I plan on doing too my friend.

    • @songbird6414
      @songbird6414 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Danny____22honestly as someone who did not grow up with the movies and honestly still isn’t much of a fan I thought the only writing issue with the prequels was the dialogue. The actual plot was incredibly intriguing.

    • @Danny____22
      @Danny____22 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@songbird6414 See I always hear this. And I honestly couldn't find anything wrong with it. People think the OT had good dialogue too? I admit I cringed at a bit of the dialogue but it's genuinely not that bad lmao.

  • @offworlder1
    @offworlder1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    The whole point of TPM was to see Qui-Gon Jinn as the only chance Anakin really had to turn out good. He was the father Anakin needed and “duel of fates” was not the fate of Naboo or the jedi vs sith, it was Anakin’s future at stake. In the book it is very specific when Palpatine tells Maul to “kill the master” as Qui-Gon was their greatest threat.
    Anakin having Obi-Wan who is like an older brother was not going to work without Obi-Wan trying to be more like Qui-Gon which was not his personality.

    • @TheFirstCurse1
      @TheFirstCurse1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The "duel of the fates" was much more than just Anakin's fate, as his fate affected the galaxy as a whole, including both Naboo and the Jedi vs the Sith.

  • @Gong-Fu_Hermit
    @Gong-Fu_Hermit 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    One thing to understand about the final fight between Anakin and Obi is that it is a conversation first and foremost, and only at the very end of this physical conversation do they actually go for killing blows and this only last a few seconds.

    • @josh_from_xboxlive
      @josh_from_xboxlive  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Yes and Obiwan only does so reluctantly. "Don't try it..." He could have finished him off, but he couldn't do it. There's still love between them despite it all

    • @Gong-Fu_Hermit
      @Gong-Fu_Hermit 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@josh_from_xboxlive I like how deeply you study the intentions of the writing, have you done an analysis of the fight yet? Or possibly a video comparison on the force and Buddhism?

    • @josh_from_xboxlive
      @josh_from_xboxlive  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Gong-Fu_Hermit Both great ideas for videos. I already have a lot more Star Wars videos on the way but the Buddhist angle could be a great idea

    • @mrscaryfox3955
      @mrscaryfox3955 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@josh_from_xboxliveI never got why he left anakin to burn to death

    • @declangilmour8184
      @declangilmour8184 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@mrscaryfox3955 it's "legends" now so no longer official cannon I'm not sure if it's ever explained in the Disney cannon but the novel for episode 3 goes into his reasoning.
      Basically during the fight obi wan realises he himself has failed too, he stopped being a perfect jedi when it came to anakin he grew attachment, he made excuses for him to the council etc all the while the monster that is darth vader was growing under his nose.
      So in the end to win the fight he let's his attachment flow through him and out of him. Its worth noting when he chops his limbs off that isn't his intention he is trying to parry anakins attack then come back up to guard but anakin is to slow but back on topic
      After seeing him down on the lava he rather than going down to give him a mercy kill leaves him for 2 reasons
      1. He has now let go of his attachment as it were, so he is leaving anakins fate to the will of the force
      2. He senses and then hears the emporors ship and realises it would take precious time to careful go down the hill and back up. Time he doesn't have especially as the emperor being there means yoda failed to kill him so as far as obi wan is concerned he could very well be the last jedi in exsitstance.

  • @ikesters6697
    @ikesters6697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +778

    You portrayed perfectly what George tried to do all those years ago but many failed to see or understand

    • @Ronfost89
      @Ronfost89 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      George failed to do these things. These are just excuses for what George should have done.

    • @kamixakadio2441
      @kamixakadio2441 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

      @@Ronfost89 No, as the commenter said, you failed to understand it.

    • @Ronfost89
      @Ronfost89 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      @@kamixakadio2441 Nothing was hard to understand in Star Wars, especially the prequels. They were poorly done and poorly directed. George has never had the nuance as a director to get the performances needed out of most his actors. This can all be proven by all of the book adaptations, where they go into fine detail on thoughts and emotions. George never went into fine detail.

    • @sikid4000
      @sikid4000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      ​@@Ronfost89L SW "fan"

    • @bigroaststyrone8135
      @bigroaststyrone8135 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      @@sikid4000just because he thinks Lucas dropped the ball with the prequels (which isn’t an unwarranted opinion) doesn’t make him any less of a fan

  • @nightwing1o1
    @nightwing1o1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    What you explained in this video is what I’ve been trying to put into words about Anakins character for my whole life. I have been infatuated with Anakins character arc since the day I saw this movie when I was 5 and I’m glad I finally found someone who read my mind and explained it in such a deep, intricate way. You sir have earned a subscriber

  • @dylanmorgan2374
    @dylanmorgan2374 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +293

    Damnn… the prequels age like fine wine the older I get 😊

    • @offworlder1
      @offworlder1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      PT was a story told badly but the story itself is very good and has a wealth of hidden gems.

    • @meechie9z
      @meechie9z 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      @@offworlder1I agree it definitely could’ve been told better but I would be lying if I said I like the OT more

    • @danman6431
      @danman6431 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@offworlder1I think the base for a good story is there but Lucas bungled every part of it. TPM removed changes nothing it’s so un important

    • @offworlder1
      @offworlder1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@danman6431 Still better then the abysmal ST which was the biggest “fuck you” to SW fans. Luke, and Han were treated like absolute garbage, lets not even start about how Ackbar was given the shaft.

    • @YodaOnABender
      @YodaOnABender 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@danman6431it’s an amazingly written story with awfully written dialogue spoken by varyingly competent actors

  • @TrevorsEndevours
    @TrevorsEndevours 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +175

    The part about rebellious ppl have loyalist padawans, and they have imperialist padawans goes so much deeper.
    Yoda, a loyalist, trained Dooku
    Dooku, an imperialist, trained Qui gon
    Qui gon, a rebel, trained obi wan
    Obi wan, a loyalist, trained anakin
    Anakin, an imperialist, trained Ahsoka
    Ahsoka, a rebel, doesnt really train anyone tho, so maybe we'll see how she interacts with sabine in the Ahsoka show

    • @kaydgaming
      @kaydgaming 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I love that concept

    • @hassanalkhalaf1115
      @hassanalkhalaf1115 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You called the theme of Ahsoka

    • @darthcaliginous2066
      @darthcaliginous2066 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sabine sucks and has the force for no reason

    • @vandrar3n
      @vandrar3n 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I don't think calling Dooku and Anakin imperialists is quite right, since neither of them wanted an empire in the first place. I think the word we're looking for is practicalists. Dooku has a quote about how neutral and imoral are almost the same thing, which to me sounds like he only cares about reality and actions.
      They're clearly the perfect tools for imperialists (both under the influence of Sidious), but the Empire doesn't come from them.

    • @TrevorsEndevours
      @TrevorsEndevours 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @vandrar3n fair. Still cool to see the way they "rhyme"

  • @Bizzpax
    @Bizzpax 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Hearing that “I shall do what I must” line originally being said by Qui gon just shifted so much about Star Wars for me

  • @tomtudor7832
    @tomtudor7832 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +126

    Such a brilliant video, just reinforces the reason why Star Wars is so well written and why I love it so much

    • @josh_from_xboxlive
      @josh_from_xboxlive  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      It's really an amazing and intricate piece of art--we are honestly so lucky that the stars aligned and George was able to put it together. I'm glad you found the video, thanks!

  • @aghilton8531
    @aghilton8531 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    Absolutely fantastic analysis. I’m always astounded by the richness of the story telling in these films and after growing up in a time when it seemed “cool” to be down on the prequels it’s great to see them appreciated and studied like this. The PT and the OT are symbionts in their own way, with the inversions and parallels between them adding so much to the overall story. Great mythic story telling and best viewed as all part of one whole.

    • @sharonpopolow6874
      @sharonpopolow6874 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'm of the same camp. I'm 49yo, so I was a young adult when Ep 1 came out. I was so negatively distracted by the over the top cgi in many scenes (and THAT was one of the prequels that actually HAD real sets included) and the ridiculousness of Jar Jar/Gungans, I developed an unreasonable bias against it and the prequels in general (bad dialogue in Ep2 & 3, unrealistic romance storyline).
      Starting about 6 years ago, when the newer SW movies started coming out, I revisited the prequels. They are much better than I remembered them back in early 2000s.
      Qui-Gon was truly awesome.

  • @onemoreminute0543
    @onemoreminute0543 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    I'm not a huge Star Wars fan (at least not anymore), but even I could see how intriguing and complex a transformation Anakin underwent over the trilogy. How many people just didn't seem to... 'get it' (for lack of a better term) kind of baffles me.
    They'll complain that he turned too quickly in ROTS but then at the same time say that TPM and AOTC were pointless and I'm like... did you miss all the legwork those two films put into making his fall to evil in ROTS work?!

    • @meechie9z
      @meechie9z 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Clone wars just adds to it honestly
      Edit: obviously clone wars adds to it that was the whole point…

    • @onemoreminute0543
      @onemoreminute0543 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@meechie9z Yeah, Clone Wars is more supplementary material, but the core beats happen in the films.

    • @meechie9z
      @meechie9z 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@onemoreminute0543 100%

  • @RED_APPLE_-ot1ok
    @RED_APPLE_-ot1ok 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Dude no fucking way, this video is so well done. the themes brought up, the structure of them with the editing, all well put together this amazing analysis of Anakins arc in such great detail.
    You deserve more subscribers fr

  • @6a6kabkedax22
    @6a6kabkedax22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    This is beautiful. Brought tears to my eyes at the end.

    • @hotbuttur4604
      @hotbuttur4604 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Dude same. 😂

  • @Jacob-wu3if
    @Jacob-wu3if 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Remembering how Star Wars used to be and then seeing the state it is in now…makes you sad doesn’t it.

    • @katakesh8566
      @katakesh8566 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its genuinely heartbreaking
      Its may be years before we get meaningful art like this again

  • @eoghanmaloney9561
    @eoghanmaloney9561 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I think what truly makes Anakin such an interesting character is his lack of change throughout the series. He is never not anakin. He claims to be someone else to hide himself from his actions as Darth Vader but everything that he does he does because of love and because he blames himself for what happens to padme he has to punish the one who hurt her which is him so he spends 20 years hating and punishing himself until he finds luke who he then loves and wants to reunite with except Luke is just as stubborn as he is and won’t give in so Vader gives in instead when Luke is danger thus once again punishing the people who harm his loved ones.

  • @complexgamer1899
    @complexgamer1899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This might be one of the greatest TH-cam explanation videos of all time

  • @jerrymuffin8276
    @jerrymuffin8276 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    you had me at "the two triologies"

  • @kidsrock91
    @kidsrock91 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Guy really said "Padme fell off the helicopter thing."

    • @0predaking0
      @0predaking0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If he wanted a little more specific foe sime fans its called LAAT

    • @nobody4248
      @nobody4248 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean it's obviosly based of the soviet Mil Mi-24

  • @TheCADDGUY
    @TheCADDGUY 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I enjoy that it opens with, "comparing the two trilogies" makes me happy

  • @jamestolbert1856
    @jamestolbert1856 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I don’t think Padme wasn’t shocked, she was but she was also sympathetic towards his pain, she knows that murdering a village is wrong regardless of their crimes, but she also chooses to emphasize with him and tell him that being angry is human. She’s not validating his hatred for the Tuskens, she’s validating his anger at himself for not saving his mother and giving into rage

  • @amysteriousviewer3772
    @amysteriousviewer3772 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Essays like this one really makes me appreciate all the subtle themes and hidden meanings in the Star Wars movies. Many people believe that Star Wars is only a basic hero‘s journey story made for children but the writing has a surprising amount of depth to it.

  • @Brucie129
    @Brucie129 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The prequel trilogy just gets better with age

  • @olivermorse2591
    @olivermorse2591 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I've never heard anyone give such a praise to the final act of ROTS, its such a beautifully directing sequence and just has a magic and realism that I never get from movies anymoire

  • @StrangerInTheSnow
    @StrangerInTheSnow 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I also think Anakin’s maturity in episode three was also spurred on by the fact that he had to train Ahsoka, who was basically a mini version of Anakin. He even says that she wouldn’t have made it as Obi Wan’s padawan, but she might make it as his, and I think that’s because he sees himself in her and wants to train her the way Obi Wan didn’t train him.
    Even though she didn’t exist when they made the movie. I also loved that they incorporated Anakin’s care for the clones in the show that he shows in the movie, which I think is another show of how he still cares for others, even though some Jedi see them as disposable.

  • @simunator
    @simunator 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    ep 1-6 can be deconstructed and hyper-analyzed to the extent of Shakespeare's reflection of social commentary. 7-9 was just taking a piss

  • @almightycinder
    @almightycinder 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This is one of the reasons I've always hated the idea of the "Machete Order", where peope skip Phantom Menace. It doesnt work without Qui-Gon, or Palpatine manipulating Padme with his fake invasion.

  • @MALICEM12
    @MALICEM12 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The prequels needed to be four movies to fit his arc in fully and give it enough time without it seeming rushed. But all the important parts are there for the most part. Anakin's fall is legitimately beautiful and tragic and Shakespearean.
    A beautiful put analysis by the way

  • @ayatan9119
    @ayatan9119 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Oh my god!!! These Star Wars essays are soooo good! It definately makes it all feel so fresh again. Ive always understood these themes and rhymes, and understood that THIS is what makes Star Wars, STAR WARS.

  • @islandultra
    @islandultra 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    13:24 i feel like it should be mentioned that while he is talking about the raiders in that scene it can also be taken as him talking about the jedi council, because they didn't allow him to go to his mother sooner.

  • @soularprimestudios5930
    @soularprimestudios5930 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The entire prequel trilogy and parts of clone wars shows Anakins gall gradually so yes he has a arc a long one..

  • @intuitionedits2.032
    @intuitionedits2.032 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Something I love is the way Obi-Wan felt so remorseful and guilty for failing Anaking that he saw Luke as a chance to redeem his own failures. Obi-Wan deliberately watching Luke from a distance speaks to how he realizes that he should have nurtured Anakin's empathetic tendencies rather than make him shove them to the side

    • @SergioCortes-kc7fc
      @SergioCortes-kc7fc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kenobi didn't failed Anakin. It was Anakin who failed Kenobi, Padme, Yoda, the jedi order and the republic. The only one one Anakin didn't fail was Palpatine, the one who manipulated him to destroy all he cared and loved.

  • @SaiyanScholar
    @SaiyanScholar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Incredible video. The resemblance of Anakin acting through his strong emotions to save Palpatine and later, Luke (with the same Force Lightning attack going on), was incredibly explained. Well done.

  • @yorkshire_tea_innit8097
    @yorkshire_tea_innit8097 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    These messages are lot more important than what most kids got from watching the movies. Which is basically, dont be bad, and adhere to some struct doctrine such as that which Yoda preaches about avoiding the dark side which is a little on the nose to take seriously.

  • @lucasbakeforero426
    @lucasbakeforero426 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I had never seen such a profound video analyzing Anakins Skywalker arc. Well done.

  • @clairdeloona
    @clairdeloona 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    4:55 i was getting all depressed over anakin for the zillionth time and then this got me laughing... if you do the math he's only 16 years older than anakin which does make him a "teen dad" in a way (or if you count korkie, not in a way).

    • @meechie9z
      @meechie9z 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad I’m not the only one who gets sad af when thinking about anakin

  • @RadziuRadoslaw
    @RadziuRadoslaw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love prequels for the amount of heart put in them, and having an idea behind all 3 films

    • @Danny____22
      @Danny____22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They're genuinely amazing. I loved them all!

  • @groobly6070
    @groobly6070 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Damn I never connected Padme’s choker outfit in Ep II to her getting force choked in Ep III

  • @vrien5686
    @vrien5686 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One of the best essays on Star Wars I have seen in my life. This has shocked and rocked my understanding of the franchise, which in turn has shocked and rocked me even further as I've been a fan since 1995 when I was 5 years old. I might even go so far as saying it has revitalized my interest in the movies, after a literal decade of severe disappointment, disillusion and disassociation.
    Thank you, good sir, and very well done.

    • @f4irb4nks57
      @f4irb4nks57 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Really recommend andor, phenomenal writing and in my opinion the best piece of star wars that disney has produced

    • @vrien5686
      @vrien5686 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@f4irb4nks57 I actually saw Andor and was very pleasantly surprised. Looking forward to the next season and hope they don't fuck it up.

    • @f4irb4nks57
      @f4irb4nks57 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@vrien5686 agreed, can’t wait. But also dont want it to be ruined as well.

  • @zagray2305
    @zagray2305 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Dog idk if you’re still reading this, but I just went through and watched a few of your star wars videos and I think these are some of the most comprehensive and thorough character analysis I’ve ever come across on the platform. Don’t get me wrong I’ve watched my fair share of essays on topics very similar, however I don’t know if I’ve stumbled upon a more well produced, narrated and frankly god damn interesting as your takes. I am in shock by your subscription numbers and I am utterly confident that you’ll succeed here in no time by continuing to create bangers like this. Good luck and may the force be with you!

    • @josh_from_xboxlive
      @josh_from_xboxlive  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dog bless you zagray. Thanks so much 🥹

  • @TheGameGetterKuzuri
    @TheGameGetterKuzuri 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Obi-wan is a good example of unexpectedly having to raise your sibling due to the death of one or both your parents when he is essentially a child himself. Obi-wan overcorrects and adheres to the rules and politics cause they represent the structure that he's not sure how to provide, the thing that he desperately needs for himself.

  • @originalSiiiN
    @originalSiiiN 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    this video was compelling from beginning to end, thank you 🙏

  • @Theprinceofopposites
    @Theprinceofopposites 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    wow, this is an excellent video essay. I've heard quotes of George Lucas talking about how the prequels and original trilogy are like poetry, and there's motifs that repeat through them and you laid it out with such compelling clarity. bravo

  • @apiny4
    @apiny4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WOW !!! a beautiful video essay. fantastic research, great editing, great sound design, great narration and commentary. you deserve so much more credit, amazing job brother!

  • @sketchysketchu
    @sketchysketchu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i absolutely LOVE the thematic choice of music at 11:36

  • @InaquiSantos
    @InaquiSantos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This video was great! I loves seeing the different interpretations people have of the Prequels films; would really recommend Rick Worley.

  • @Vivacomunismo
    @Vivacomunismo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bringing out Hegel for film analysis is so beyond based I’m incredibly impressed

  • @thekiss2083
    @thekiss2083 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dang! That lady really gave a TED talk where she summarized the prequels in a black leather jacket 🙌

  • @kylekopsi7039
    @kylekopsi7039 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That woman talking about the finale is me any time I have too much to drink at a party

  • @rbu2136
    @rbu2136 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The sand on Tatooine has an arc. It’s coarse. It gets everywhere.

  • @graysonflows
    @graysonflows 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I watched this whole thing thinking it had like 300k+ views. Jesus, u got my sub bro. Great video 👍

  • @pablizino4853
    @pablizino4853 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love the Anakin character since i saw the precuels. I absolutely love the way you follow the Anakin path and analyze the three movies focusing his feelings and choices. Great video, I loved it

  • @jamestolbert1856
    @jamestolbert1856 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sometimes we can’t rely on our instincts, we must follow our mind, follow a higher consciousness

  • @randybentley2633
    @randybentley2633 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Failed, yes, and it was a wilful failure. Disney had the Ending pinned by the creator himself, and ditched it because they got scared and wanted to play it safe.

  • @rks5457
    @rks5457 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow, you put together your thoughts on the prequel very well. Simple yet to the point. And you highlight each point without straying from the main one.

  • @deborahlepage1789
    @deborahlepage1789 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Thank you. I saw these as a child when they came out. Vader always was important to me, and Just as important to me as Luke, like two sides of a coin, and both sides important.
    I grieved for Vader as much as I did for Yoda when I saw
    it in the theater, but I'm weird like that.
    Thank you for this analysis of their heroes Arcs, and how the tragedies and circumstances of the journeys can impact the whole arc.
    Luck, wealth, the journey layered with corruption before you even take a step to try and traverse the path.
    Lol. Looking at it from say a Time Lord's perspective, or even a Jedi Knight's Precognition - did we see someone in the Star Wars universe who could often "See The Future"?
    Is Anakin had not become Darth Vader when The Emperor corrupted His path, would Luke have survived His confrontation with Palpatine electrocuting him without Anakin throwing off his yoke as Darth Vader to pick up Palpatine, and throw the man that was in the process of killing His Son, and Finally Throwing that Sith Lord to his death.
    If Anakin hadn't ....taken one for the team, would Luke have survived his first and only confrontation with Darth Sidious...

    • @vergilsonofsparda3019
      @vergilsonofsparda3019 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well assuming Anakin doesn't turn to the dark side, that would mean Palpatine would've been stopped long before ROTJ's time. Anakin, Mace, or some other Jedi would've killed Palpatine before Luke grew up to become a Jedi.

  • @kalebvaldez2404
    @kalebvaldez2404 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like that it's 2023 and this video starts off with "Comparing the protagonists of the two trilogies..." 😁

  • @BryantPlaysCards
    @BryantPlaysCards 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    one question how do you not have more subscribers the qulity of this video is so top notch youve eared a sub my friend

    • @josh_from_xboxlive
      @josh_from_xboxlive  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much! I'm just having a good time sharing my thoughts, and I'm just glad cool people are finding it!

  • @trapdontaris
    @trapdontaris 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this is so good, the wordplay and timing of the clips do a really good job of highlighting meanings and intent behind the films

  • @lordofd7111
    @lordofd7111 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Also, I don't think the Jedi suppressed Anakin's emotions or saw them as a problem, but rather took issue with his [lack of] control over them. The core of the Jedi's teachings in the Force *is* to feel, after all. Which he does in superabundance, but then the other side of feeling is thought, which the Jedi also teach to harness and be mindful of.
    The Jedi did their best to teach him control, but because he had already lived out a significant portion of his formative years raised in slavery, control most likely translated to suppression and repression in his mind. They really only could hope that he would find the right path, especially so long as he would barely seek their counsel over Palpatine's validation of his ego.

    • @josh_from_xboxlive
      @josh_from_xboxlive  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good point

    • @SergioCortes-kc7fc
      @SergioCortes-kc7fc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True, jedi alwyas tought him to control his emotions, not to suppress anything. They tought him focus, patience, acceptance and equilibrium. The problem is he never intented to do so and only followed blindly the manipulator who ruined his life and all the people who cared about him.

  • @seancampbell3543
    @seancampbell3543 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Phantom Menace really goes from sleeping to prime Star Wars in the ignition of a lightsaber

  • @SoppingSock
    @SoppingSock 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    amazing video man! your sub count is criminally low. just subbed, excited to see you blow up

  • @TheBaselessMountain
    @TheBaselessMountain 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    By the title and thumbnail I was expecting an angry og fan who was gonna bash these movies to hell
    Isntead i found a great review!
    Awsome video

  • @SpFlash1523
    @SpFlash1523 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    NGL, this was the type of deep, analytical breakdown of Star Wars characters that I was always looking for but never had truly found previously. Similar to the channel Implicitly Pretentious.

  • @Mi_Anakin_Skywaker
    @Mi_Anakin_Skywaker 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Does Anakin Skywalker have an arc??
    Man! HE IS THE STARWARS!
    Edit : OMG now that's a treat. The fact that I thought this video was going to be like some other videos saying crap about Starwars/ Prequels T-T. I'm shook to the core. Goosebumps. Amazing man. Best SW analysis on youtube. The way you pointed out every details and subtlety deserve a billion views. U got a new subscriber♡

  • @BoldAnBrash
    @BoldAnBrash 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a very well done analysis! One of the better Star Wars video essays I've seen in a long time!

  • @bigdoubleu117
    @bigdoubleu117 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Prequels are fantastic and deserve praise.
    Over the years, listening to many reviewers like Red Letter Media, Chris Stuckman, Nostalgia Critic, Cosmonaut, and many others.
    I have always found a through-line. (Other than the fact all of them are super fans of Red Letter Medias Mr Plinkett "reviews.")
    They all either scratch the surface of a perceived issue without using an extra brain cell to think about whatever issue they made up just a little bit longer to see that there actually is no issue, or
    They'll use opinion as fact, (as they all would use the scene you used as an example of bad acting and dialogue), or
    They'll be factually wrong about an issue, or
    They will severely criticize something if it happens in the Prequels, but if the same exact thing happens in the OT... Crickets.

    • @Danny____22
      @Danny____22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Absolutely agree!

  • @biguy617
    @biguy617 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The difference between the two high grounds is that Darth Maul wasn’t ready for Obi. Obi was ready for Anikan when he jumped. He knew what Anikan was going to do and countered it.

  • @sharonpopolow6874
    @sharonpopolow6874 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Am I the only one who thought listening to that one woman on the stage describe RotS ending the way she did absolutely hilarious? Whew boy, I'm glad she didn't have an aneurism or stroke or something.

  • @143bunzy
    @143bunzy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video looking forward to your career

  • @jacobporter419
    @jacobporter419 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    By the films themselves probably not
    But by the TV Shows and extra pieces of lore added over the years, it makes everything come full circle

  • @aguy2162
    @aguy2162 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a really great, very unique analysis. It didn’t just repeat all the same common points. Good job

  • @thepopcorncolonel7336
    @thepopcorncolonel7336 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I never understood why people hated the prequels. Storytelling wise I thought they were more deep. I think any of us would have also turned evil like Vader.

  • @StarlingInSpace
    @StarlingInSpace 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Never have I been more intrigued in the depth that Lucas put into tpm, what a great video! So we’ll written and edited
    I’d love to hear your thoughts on andor if you’ve seen it :)

  • @funnyanimalvideos4923
    @funnyanimalvideos4923 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    13:53 - This is exactly what I thought, although I could never put it in words as well as you did! I love this movie and regularly re-watch it because it's just so powerful to me. That scene where she tells him she loves him is just epic. I can't help thinking he's the lucky guy - the guy who actually got the girl next door - except that she is of noble blood and he's nothing but a commoner. It's just powerful because their love had to overcome so many conventional and accepted norms in order to exist in the first place. You watch it knowing it can't last and it's even more engrossing because of that. It's bound to end in tragedy - just as she told him - in so many words.

  • @mikehulsman4735
    @mikehulsman4735 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think one of the interesting things (that you also mentioned) is that in a way he does not have an arc at all. He always stays the same. He is conflicted because of his emotions, and those emotions never go away.
    People are unconvinced by his transformation into Darth vader, because their was no transformation. It was a split second decision based on love. This love led him to fear, and then anger, which was his path to the dark side.
    People wanted to see a clear transition between good and evil, but the reality is that Anakin never made that transition. He chose love when he turned to the dark side, and he chose love again when he turned back to the light side.
    Love and hate are two sides of the same coin. The greatest evils, and the greates goods are done in the name of love. Its deeply unsetling to think about, and equaly tragic.

  • @sspringNG
    @sspringNG 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a wonderfully put together video! Thank you for making this

  • @DotJPGG
    @DotJPGG 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your writing, cadence and rationale. I hope your channel blows up! It deserves it.

  • @ethanhawkins3391
    @ethanhawkins3391 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video made for quite the compelling watch. Very eloquent spoken with your points being well articulated. Loved hearing her describe the finale to RotS as it’s one of my favorite climaxes in all of film.

  • @juanp0093
    @juanp0093 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is an incredibly well done analysis, and I only hope that more fans find it now that Ahsoka is airing. Thank you for all the work that went into this, and for reminding me that Star Wars is more than just toys and blockbusters...
    It's poetry.

  • @moefrd
    @moefrd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i personally dont entirely agree, but i liked the video essay and the effort you put into it! awesome stuff

  • @mariogarcia1048
    @mariogarcia1048 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bro... you have 2.4k subs at the time of this writing? This was fantastically done and i feel like i got more out of the sequels watching this than i could have expected, considering how much content about them I've already watched. Bravo 👏🏼

  • @luking97
    @luking97 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this video is amazing.. the edit, the humor, the music... 10/10

  • @nosfrattirek5690
    @nosfrattirek5690 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    When I saw this video in my recommended feed, I thought "oh great, another idiot who's arguing that Anakin is no better than Rey" but I ended up clicking on it out of curiosity. I couldn't have been more wrong, this is quite an impressive piece of character exploration. I used to think that Anakin as a character wasn't really "whole" and his fall to the dark side a little too abrupt without the Clone Wars show adding a lot of extra context, but I'm reconsidering now.
    And yeah, Qui-Gon is the OG Jedi, the one who understands how the Force works and what the Jedi should have always been about.
    Just one thing though, you briefly mentioned the romance and dialogue in episode 2 and although it gets quite bad at times, I want to defend some of it. Everyone loves to make fun of the cringy dialogue between Anakin and Padmé but when you really think about it... we're talking about two teenagers who have lived in an extremely formal environment and have had incredible amounts of responsibilities ever since they were little kids. They're finally on their own, on the very first date of their lives, neither of them is really sure where or how far the other wants things to go but they know what they're doing is forbidden and will have to be kept secret. How can anyone expect anything other than an awkward cringefest? "I don't like sand" isn't Lucas being bad at writing dialogue, it's him recognizing that Anakin has no idea what to say or how to proceed at that moment, so he goes full cringe. As most (if not all) real life people would in that situation.

    • @josh_from_xboxlive
      @josh_from_xboxlive  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Couldn't agree more. I have said my share of "I don't like sand" in my life. People actually do talk like that when they're nervous. Your point about their formal environments just hammers it home. Thanks for watching!

  • @michaelm9211
    @michaelm9211 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👏👏👏this is the best video I have seen reviewing Star Wars.

  • @steveb9713
    @steveb9713 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for including the paglia explanation. I didn’t even really enjoy episode 2 but I watched rots multiple times in the theatre and it’s why the prequels are loved and the sequels are hated

  • @Xephyrak
    @Xephyrak 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    God this was incredibly well put. Bravo

  • @neptosaur4071
    @neptosaur4071 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this is my favorite video of all time. thank you

  • @themangomanjuice
    @themangomanjuice 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a wonderful analysis. Great video.

  • @balancedboys
    @balancedboys 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing Vid man!

  • @woffordBC
    @woffordBC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent breakdown ty.

  • @NerdyGamerReacts
    @NerdyGamerReacts 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant video essay, subbed, never looked at it from this point of view, Qui-Gon-Jin is by far ny favorite Jedi, next to Obi-Wan, this is why I love Star Wars, so many different angles and ways to understand each individual character. 💯😃🙌

  • @thijmenk95
    @thijmenk95 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This video caught me by surprise. This has to be one of the best youtube video's I have ever seen. Not really that big of a star wars fan, but damn you wrote this well. Keep it up man, subscribed!