Personally. I think people are too hard on LoL Victor. He wants to produce machines to help people survive zaunn. He developed blitzcrank with that very idea in mind since i believe it was a rescue robot, hence grab hand and turbo speed. Victors entire thing is devolping robotic prosthetics to replace parts that are easily damaged in zaun like iron lungs to combat the rampant pollution.
well they said arcane lore is the only canon lore now, and i love it so so so so much more, i never even cared to read his old lore but victor new arcane lore is BILLION TIMES better and more interesting especially after watching the last episode of arcane like holy hell i am still in shock
@@pinoproxy2828yes, we can agree that your opinion is terrible therefore invalid. His laser arm doesnt even make sense in this new design specially after how they foreshadowed it in season 1. So yeah, not only is opinion terrible also you have a very bad taste. Please dont share it and try to listen and learn from better opinions
Before finishing the video, as someone who liked Viktor and his lore before Arcane, I think Viktors lore had more to it and Arcane kinda sacrificed that in favour of Jayce. Viktor starts his work as a child, not with Singed, but by improving the factories in Zaun, with the goal and succiding in reducing the frequent accidents that happened in them to near zero and along with that the casualties and deaths. Viktor also doesn't experiment on himself because he's dying, he does it because he believes he can't expect others to trust him, if he doesn't show it work on himself. The concept of the glorious evolution comes from the idea if you could have your body and mind work better why wouldn't you? Viktor helped and saved countless people. While there's more to it, the main change is that in his og lore, while his ideas were flawed and a lot of people would disagree with them, there was sound logic behind them and you could argue for his case. They made Viktors glorious evolution just clearly, classically bad with creating effectively drones out of people at his command and remove any of the real discussion of his character and beliefs.
I don’t believe Viktor’s initial idea was to assimilate and neutralize. Only when he saw humanity’s natural inclination for conflict, when Jayce tried to destroy him, did he actually turn “evil”
It wasn't that they were drones. It was that they became a hive mind. Their consciousness ascended, and when connected, there'd be no misunderstanding, or war. But when ascended, and a part of Viktor, they have no need of bodies or food. But it's lonely, especially when only Viktor has the immortal body. At least, that's what I got from it.
yeah i kinda hate that they took away his agency in his evolution and also lost all the subtlety within his ideals just so they could make him the big bad
It really upsets me that people who FUCKING HAVEN'T read Viktor's lore rag on it. The fact he takes on the burden of his technology on himself to prove its legitimate allowing him to further push it forward is brilliant writing. It's also amazing by raising genuine moral dilemmas, like for divers is the risk of dying afraid worth not sacrificing your autonomy even if it is temporarily to complete a job. Is losing any bit of autonomy worth the money? Was it better for people to die or be saved in a mechanical body that loses emotion. It is miles more nuance than his Arcane version where he is just evil with twisted good intentions. Sure it's a good story, just a bad Viktor story. I adore the incarnations of his old lore where is not quiet a hero but not quiet a villain, just a complexed inventory trying to solve difficult problems with questionable solutions.
His talk with Ambessa in ep 8 really fucked his whole character. It was so annoying. Because he tells her that making dead robots was"always his plan". When act 2 showed a complex arc that took him from "I'd rather go powerless than sacrifice humanity" to"These actions have shown me that humanity is wrong" Almost as if act 3 did not watch act 2 Also I do not believe Viktor would ever side with a warmongerer.
viktor is only siding with ambessa because he believes that he is acheiving perfection, the hex-core blinds viktor to his humanity (sky leaving him and saying he won't miss her is evidence of this). Viktor's goal is to help people and reduce suffering, and by removing everyones humanity and connecting everyone he makes them all one. But when all is one, everyone is alone and viktor doesn't understand this until ekko breaks through to him and wakes up his human side. When he says it was always his plan, he means that it was always his plan to help people. What he understands as helping people changes over time as his empathy is removed by the arcane magic
Personally. I think people are too hard on LoL Victor. He wants to produce machines to help people survive zaunn. He developed blitzcrank with that very idea in mind since i believe it was a rescue robot, hence grab hand and turbo speed. Victors entire thing is devolping robotic prosthetics to replace parts that are easily damaged in zaun like iron lungs to combat the rampant pollution.
well they said arcane lore is the only canon lore now, and i love it so so so so much more, i never even cared to read his old lore but victor new arcane lore is BILLION TIMES better and more interesting especially after watching the last episode of arcane like holy hell i am still in shock
@@pinoproxy2828yes, we can agree that your opinion is terrible therefore invalid. His laser arm doesnt even make sense in this new design specially after how they foreshadowed it in season 1. So yeah, not only is opinion terrible also you have a very bad taste. Please dont share it and try to listen and learn from better opinions
This video deserves way more recognition. Amazing work.
@@eirimuliodesinysiskiausas thanks for the nice comment!
Before finishing the video, as someone who liked Viktor and his lore before Arcane, I think Viktors lore had more to it and Arcane kinda sacrificed that in favour of Jayce. Viktor starts his work as a child, not with Singed, but by improving the factories in Zaun, with the goal and succiding in reducing the frequent accidents that happened in them to near zero and along with that the casualties and deaths. Viktor also doesn't experiment on himself because he's dying, he does it because he believes he can't expect others to trust him, if he doesn't show it work on himself. The concept of the glorious evolution comes from the idea if you could have your body and mind work better why wouldn't you? Viktor helped and saved countless people.
While there's more to it, the main change is that in his og lore, while his ideas were flawed and a lot of people would disagree with them, there was sound logic behind them and you could argue for his case.
They made Viktors glorious evolution just clearly, classically bad with creating effectively drones out of people at his command and remove any of the real discussion of his character and beliefs.
I don’t believe Viktor’s initial idea was to assimilate and neutralize. Only when he saw humanity’s natural inclination for conflict, when Jayce tried to destroy him, did he actually turn “evil”
It wasn't that they were drones. It was that they became a hive mind. Their consciousness ascended, and when connected, there'd be no misunderstanding, or war. But when ascended, and a part of Viktor, they have no need of bodies or food. But it's lonely, especially when only Viktor has the immortal body.
At least, that's what I got from it.
yeah i kinda hate that they took away his agency in his evolution and also lost all the subtlety within his ideals just so they could make him the big bad
It really upsets me that people who FUCKING HAVEN'T read Viktor's lore rag on it. The fact he takes on the burden of his technology on himself to prove its legitimate allowing him to further push it forward is brilliant writing. It's also amazing by raising genuine moral dilemmas, like for divers is the risk of dying afraid worth not sacrificing your autonomy even if it is temporarily to complete a job. Is losing any bit of autonomy worth the money? Was it better for people to die or be saved in a mechanical body that loses emotion.
It is miles more nuance than his Arcane version where he is just evil with twisted good intentions. Sure it's a good story, just a bad Viktor story. I adore the incarnations of his old lore where is not quiet a hero but not quiet a villain, just a complexed inventory trying to solve difficult problems with questionable solutions.
Amazing video quality, dude!Especially the mic quality and your analysis. Hope this video will blow up🎉
amazing vid dude!
hey man love your analysis, hope you do one for the entire cast especially my girl Jinx
Jinx? Who is this Jinx? Why would I make a video about this character? I mean, what do you take me for? 😙
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Thanks!
His talk with Ambessa in ep 8 really fucked his whole character.
It was so annoying.
Because he tells her that making dead robots was"always his plan".
When act 2 showed a complex arc that took him from "I'd rather go powerless than sacrifice humanity" to"These actions have shown me that humanity is wrong"
Almost as if act 3 did not watch act 2
Also I do not believe Viktor would ever side with a warmongerer.
viktor is only siding with ambessa because he believes that he is acheiving perfection, the hex-core blinds viktor to his humanity (sky leaving him and saying he won't miss her is evidence of this). Viktor's goal is to help people and reduce suffering, and by removing everyones humanity and connecting everyone he makes them all one. But when all is one, everyone is alone and viktor doesn't understand this until ekko breaks through to him and wakes up his human side.
When he says it was always his plan, he means that it was always his plan to help people. What he understands as helping people changes over time as his empathy is removed by the arcane magic