Is SSD5 Still A Good Choice In 2024?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Here are a couple of reasons why I like to use SSD5 as one of my main choices when reaching for MIDI Drums.
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Like this comment if you want me to do a MIDI drum mixing video :)
*I'll be here for it.*
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Definitely. I love this channel. I'd watch a video on the proper way to air up a bicycle tire. Lol !!!
Haha maybe I’ll start doing cycling content 😂
That would be amazing.
Getting a midi drumming tutorial from a drummer would be great! And please include some info about how you think as a drummer regarding a verse, pre-chorus, chorus, bridge etc - I reckon it’s common to overdo drums if you’re not a drummer, so a list of things to avoid or do to create a believable drum track would be awesome 😀
Krimh drums has proven to be absolutely excellent in my experience as well!
Great video dude. I'm just getting the Blackbird expansion and having a play with it tonight. I have the CLA one and I'm ok with it but there's something that bothers me with it I can't put my finger on it.
Thanks man! Blackbird expansion is cool, very different sounds to the cla pack - it’s more versatile as for the genres you would use it in.
HOLY CRAP! I’ve been using SSD for years and did not realize that they have a good brush kit. 🎉 this opens up so much possibility for me because that will be absolutely perfect for the next song I’m writing.
Watching until the end, you explained a lot of things that I didn’t know about it, namely the supplementing or having a couple do elements playing at once.
So glad you found it informative and helpful man!
it would be really cool if you made a video about drum programming from a drummers perspective and how to get a more realistic sound
Yeah for sure! I will keep that in mind!
I prefer to use BFD3 for my main drum sounds, as they are more natural and less processed. I think the only way you learn to mix drums is with as close to the real thing as possible and I enjoy the challenge of getting to that finished sound. That said, I still use SSD5 to re-enforce the kick and snare in BFD3 and they are great for that. There is an update coming for SSD5 that has some kind of AI added to the grooves section. Maybe some other tweaks as well. The downside of SSD5 is that it really hasn't been updated that much in its time, nor have they added to the expansions, so that is something to consider.
I still have an issue in Pro Tools where I've saved a preset with just a few one shots and it randomly will load an entire kit on top of them. Really tedious to have to go in and remove all the kit pieces.
As far as programming MIDI. I think you're better off using pre-made grooves that fit the vibe you're going after and then just tweak from there. Decent ones will have more realistic velocities, especially for hi hats, ride and snare, which is where the groove is at.
If you have trouble writing drums, then using pre made grooves can help - but it’s worth learning to do that stuff so you can create beats quick and easy to suit songs you are working on without having to search for ages to find one that works. I have no problems tweaking velocities - being a drummer helps.
BFD3 seems like a popular choice too. Loads of cool libraries out there! GGD etc. I find SSD just has a lot of options with sounds. It’s pretty flexible imo.
@@spinlightstudios I sometimes spend days tweaking the velocities of a drum track when I program from scratch. Not my primary instrument, but I've been a musician long enough that I understand how a drummer plays and things are accented. Still, it's very tedious work (if you want it to sound legit) and you may still fall short, especially fills with ghost notes. But yeah, if you're a drummer, this stuff may be super easy for you, as you don't have to think about it so much. Having a very good MIDI controller with good velocity curves is a must though. Otherwise, you'll waste so much time just getting the kick and snare to be consistent.
Some of my favorite grooves out there are the Platinum Samples Zildjian Artist grooves. Covers most genres and played by actual drummers, so it has great feel and proper dynamics.
I use superior Drummer since years now and it's amazing too😊.
Yes it is good too!
SD3 + the Rooms of hansa + Death and Darkness and you are set for life. Using them in combination with uvi drum replacer for real-time Audio to midi is a dream
Sounds tasty!
Stories is incredibly underrated for rock as well. Fat shell samples and great room sound
@@becominghuman3561 I’ll check that out for sure!!
..please tell me what map do you use from ssd5 to play in logic 11? tried ezdrummer2 but not shure is that the right one..regards
I just use the mapping that SSD5 defaults too. But I’m not playing an electric kit, I just program drums in manually!
Could you do a quick vid on phat fx. I've recently been using it and having a lot of fun, but it would be good to know that I am getting the most out of it! ThX!
I will consider it! Thanks
Great timing with this video as I've been pondering this same question. I'm currently using the SSD5 demo kit and contemplating whether to upgrade to full version or consider other options, E.g GGD, Superior Drummer. I'm leaning towards upgrading to full version.
Also, that brush kit sounds awesome for MIDI drums!
Totally worth it man. I’ve been using SSD for years and can always get a good sound out of it. GGD and superior are good choices too. I personally don’t love Kontakt for multi output routing - it’s not as intuitive as SSD. I can route SSD in moments, Kontakt takes more work.
What is on the track settings? my SSD5 sound so thin, can I kindly request the presets?
Hey Mate! Just some typical processing -
EQ, compression, saturation, some drum bus processing too. I’ll most likely do a midi drum mixing video pretty soon!
Would be very interested in your take on doing this with the stock logic drums (especially with the latest update’s new samples), and if you can get them to sound as good as with SSD5. I find logic does well with shells but less with cymbals, and would love to see you work with them
For sure, I’ve got a new Mac on the way, so in a few weeks I’ll be diving into logic 11 most likely.
One of the nice things about SSD5 is that there's a full-featured free version with limited kits etc, but all the great ability to craft the given sounds into something great, connect your electronic drum kit, or any other MIDI controller.
Absolutely! Free stuff is always welcome 🤩
The Slate drums are on more records than you can possibly imagine.
Absolutely! And for good reason!
Just wait till the new update gets released real soon... 😃
Aw yeah!
Im working with a grunge/metal band that's looking for an "in utero" type drum sound on a budget. How close do you think you'd be able to get with this plug in? Great vid!
I need to look up the band and check it out!
@@spinlightstudios thanks for the reply! the band is Nirvana the album is "In Utero" specifically the track "Scentless Apprentice". the drummer I'm working with is looking to recreate the sound of the drums on that track but only has a midi kit
@@nicka5607 you would probably be better off just recording your drummer in a large room. Steve Albini was kind of a meat and potatoes mixing/tracking engineer. Just try to get clean phase and experiment with mic positions especially the room mic. Also the way your drummer plays is critical
Sounds VERY Coooool !!
It’s a good option!
@@spinlightstudios I just bought it.
Thank you !
I've been using SD3 and am happy with it overall - but - I hate the tom sounds. After the initial 'hit' you hear the pitch dive down and there's too much over-ring. I love the tightness of the toms here.
Odds are that I'm missing something. I've only been recording/mixing for a couple of years - so there are a *lot* of gaps in my skillset. I'd love to learn how to overcome this issue. Any suggestions?
Mmm Tom’s is tricky hey! There are some nice ones in SSD5 - and some that aren’t to my taste, but they would work in different genres etc.
If there is an ADSR section you could manipulate the release time and shorten it down, that’s what I do in SSD5. Midi Tom’s generally ring too long, but it’s good to have the option for the length but like real drums you either need to gate them or manipulate the sustain and release of the sample to avoid that excess rumble.