There seem to be some bugs in configuring the speaker layout causing Audyssey config to be lost on a power cut. a) If you configure a 11.1 speaker setup (7.1.4 with front speakers via external amp) then all works fine as long you do not pull the power cord. As soon there is a power cut and restart, the AVR will change 11.1 to 9.1. The main issue with that is that consequently the Audyssey learned data is lost. b) It is not possible to restore the setup wie Quickselect Memory or load the AVR configuration from an USB stick. c) Also the speaker layout dialog allows a 9.1 layout with 11 amps assigned (all speaker + preout)
There are a bunch of reports that after this update using the Quick Select buttons on the remote is zeroing out the speaker level settings. I don't use those buttons so I can't directly say but have you gotten wind of this?
I hope they have the option to power thre L/R with the AVR (to get more power there) and all other 9 channels with preouts for a 7 2.4 configuration as I have 2 Emotiva BasX 4 and 5 to power my other 9 channels in my 4700h AVR??
I have four ceiling speakers and two outdoor speakers, and I'm searching for an amplifier or receiver that can efficiently power them all. I need it to have a 2 zone feature so that I can play the indoor and outdoor speakers separately or together. Please suggest some suitable options for listening to music only, not for home theater use?. Thank you
i had my denon s950h break down after a power search here. and got an open box x series 3800 for 899 here in holland which is a steal. i am getting it in this weekend so exited to see what difference it will make with my klipsch speakers
Are not all units getting the update...I have the AV10 and have yet to see the update. Have it set to auto update and thought it might have updated on it's own, but when I check the menu no dirac live option available.
Correction on the update. It kept the decibel levels, but the distances were off and didn't keep my audyssey calibration...I was watching a movie and it sounded way off. Luckily I have the audyssey app, so only had to re-upload my calibration
Can confirm the Quick Select button issue with this firmware update (resets speaker distances & levels every time they're used). Been trying to bring this to Denon's attention but their tier 1 support is giving me the runaround. Would encourage everyone with the issue to log a support ticket so they notice a pattern.
I learn quite a lot from your videos sir! Thanks for putting in the work! I'm planning on either a new Cinema 60 or SR-6015 at the end of next month. Going to be quite a step up from my NR-1402!
Yes, Mitch! Definitely going to be an upgrade. Shoot me an email when you are ready so we can get you the best deal possible - TechnoDad55 at gmail dot com.
Marantz Cinema 40 owner, question: at 4:13 you select 6 height speakers, but the only speakers selected below that are Top Front amd Top Middle. That’s only 4 speakers, not 6. Also, the diagram on the right does show 6 in-ceiling speakers, which appear to be TF, TM and Top Rear. I am not convinced with this menu selection that we are actually powering 6 speakers. Same thing happens at 3:45 where you have selected 6 height speakers, but only Front Height and Top Middle are chosen below - again, only 4 speakers. And in this case, the diagram appears to gray out the two Rear Height speakers, only showing FH and TM in white (unlike the first example where all 6 are white). Can you please comment? This is the most confusing aspect of setting up heights with this new menu system.
The features and menus are great, like the update. How are the sound dynamics, projection, and spaciousness of the new Denon compared to the 3700 and older? Is it worth the upgrade from the sound quality perspective? How does Denon stack against others such as Onkyo?
@@TechnoDad Thanks. :) It's my mistake. It comes one by one because I chose the Display option in the bottom of the screen. ??? :) I appreciate the reply.
Hope you could share your insights. I am using a denon 3800h with all 4 OHM Emotiva speakers. 11 channel Tonewinner Amp @ $1775.00 with no tax on summit website. or Emotiva XPA Gen 3 11 channel at current sale going on $1,931.00 with tax on Emotiva website. Or do you have another combo to get me to the 11 channel? I am not overly familiar with either, thoughts?
Still got my x3800h, I feel like my setup sounds awesome right now but tempted to try Dirac. Not sure if it’s worth that premium though? I do own a mini dap mic already. What are your thoughts? Thanks!
Hello great you are number 1!! I wanted to ask you I have a denon 3800 is an emotional basx a2 with 11 channels if you want to add 2 channels and have a way not to attack / detach with the amplifier what can I use give me a tip!! Thanks a lot
Hi, after the updates the shuffle mode when playing usb is removed! This is important when listening alot of music.... someone recognized this? Hopefully it's gonna be back after a new update! Shuffle on the remote is also missing.... better have shuffle than the option zone ,3,4 etc....
I just updated my Denon 2700h to the latest firmware hoping they would have resolved the VRR issue on PS5. And of course it’s still present. My tv screen just keeps flickering on and off once I enable VRR on my PS5. Im not sure why this is happening. My tv is capable of using VRR at 1080p . I have a 2019 Samsung Q70r which has VRR freesync ultimate. Anyone else experiencing VRR issues when connecting directly to the Denon. It works fine when I connect to the tv but unfortunately this model doesn’t support EARC and I don’t want to lose audio quality because it uses an ARC port .
Downloaded your demo video atmosphere interactive 1080 p I only have 7.2 nice upgrade from 5.1 for just $50 any hoo using this I froufrou I had my hight speakers reversed now fixed thank you
VIEWER REQUESTED!!! You're such a gentleman! =) he/him? or .. they/them? =) ... just checking. haha.. Thanks for another great in-depth overview =) (20 channels!!)
Don't bother with Dirac on Denon X3800H,I ran dirac,loaded it on my AVR and was truly disappointed.Volume is low and sound is muffled.When I look in the settings menu the levels and distance are all at 0.0. I don't get it I have a RZ50 in bedroom and it sounds fantastic with Dirac.
Dirac is great but it's not a magic bullet! When the movie sound Dynamics change Denon AVR owners will probably have to reach for the remote control yet again and that's with or without a dirac.
@@UnitedRedDevil13 I re ran Dirac and now it sounds great !! I did an comparison with both with movies and music and I like Dirac more than Audyssey,I switched presets back and forth,Dirac is much clearer and the bass is tighter as far as I hear on my system.
Please let us know about this new substitute for Dirac when it comes available.
U can buy dirac now for 3800h
Will do!
Off topic what kind model of focal speakers are that next to the tv?
Thx for explaining new menu Denon x3800H in my case
Hi! Aria 906. Here's a video - th-cam.com/video/bFN2xaufBEs/w-d-xo.html
Hope you will review the vestia series too, the bookshelf speakers..
There seem to be some bugs in configuring the speaker layout causing Audyssey config to be lost on a power cut.
a) If you configure a 11.1 speaker setup (7.1.4 with front speakers via external amp) then all works fine as long you do not pull the power cord. As soon there is a power cut and restart, the AVR will change 11.1 to 9.1. The main issue with that is that consequently the Audyssey learned data is lost.
b) It is not possible to restore the setup wie Quickselect Memory or load the AVR configuration from an USB stick.
c) Also the speaker layout dialog allows a 9.1 layout with 11 amps assigned (all speaker + preout)
There are a bunch of reports that after this update using the Quick Select buttons on the remote is zeroing out the speaker level settings. I don't use those buttons so I can't directly say but have you gotten wind of this?
I’ll check it out!
I hope they have the option to power thre L/R with the AVR (to get more power there) and all other 9 channels with preouts for a 7 2.4 configuration as I have 2 Emotiva BasX 4 and 5 to power my other 9 channels in my 4700h AVR??
I would power the front stage externally and have the AVR handle surrounds and Atmos speakers
I have four ceiling speakers and two outdoor speakers, and I'm searching for an amplifier or receiver that can efficiently power them all. I need it to have a 2 zone feature so that I can play the indoor and outdoor speakers separately or together. Please suggest some suitable options for listening to music only, not for home theater use?. Thank you
sir my current AVR is Denon 3800H can i upgrade or necessary to Denon A1H ? please reply
i had my denon s950h break down after a power search here. and got an open box x series 3800 for 899 here in holland which is a steal. i am getting it in this weekend so exited to see what difference it will make with my klipsch speakers
In 6 height speakers configuration (front height, top middle, rear height) will the two top middle speakers act as double VoG speaker in auro3d?
Great question! I don't think so. I belieive only one of those speaker terminals will be for the VOG and the other will be for the Center Height.
Great, will the sr 8012 get this update?
I don't think so...
@@TechnoDad thanks for the reply
Are not all units getting the update...I have the AV10 and have yet to see the update. Have it set to auto update and thought it might have updated on it's own, but when I check the menu no dirac live option available.
I updated my AV10, have you tried to look for an update through the AV10? It should find it.
@@TechnoDad It updated over the weekend. Also all my settings stayed and nothing got wiped, so maybe they pulled it, fixed it and re sent it out.
Correction on the update. It kept the decibel levels, but the distances were off and didn't keep my audyssey calibration...I was watching a movie and it sounded way off. Luckily I have the audyssey app, so only had to re-upload my calibration
I have a 6700h and didn’t receive this update. I didn’t expect to but saw it was listed on your video. Is this an error?
I own the same . He should let us know or not include it . I ran so fast downstairs to update to no avail .
Sorry, I was wrong...
@@marcbronze1 My mistake, sorry...
@@TechnoDad No worries man! Look between you and Joe you guys are killing it! Nobody’s perfect man!
7012 included (Marantz)?
Unfortunately, no.
How does it play in stereo? 4800H
I didn't receive the update yet on my x3800
Hi Techno Dad, thanks for the video. My overall question I have the 3700H and it’s only 2yrs old should I upgrade to the 4800 to stay in the middle?
Hi Wil! You could, but maybe wait a little longer for the 4800 price to come down?
is the update available for X3700H?
No, unfortunately, it's only for the current AVRs.
So why did you list the 6700h ? Is it suppose to come out later
@@marcbronze1 Sorry, I was wrong...
Can confirm the Quick Select button issue with this firmware update (resets speaker distances & levels every time they're used).
Been trying to bring this to Denon's attention but their tier 1 support is giving me the runaround.
Would encourage everyone with the issue to log a support ticket so they notice a pattern.
I’ll check it out and if it’s true I’ll make a quick video and send it to them.
I learn quite a lot from your videos sir! Thanks for putting in the work!
I'm planning on either a new Cinema 60 or SR-6015 at the end of next month. Going to be quite a step up from my NR-1402!
Yes, Mitch! Definitely going to be an upgrade. Shoot me an email when you are ready so we can get you the best deal possible - TechnoDad55 at gmail dot com.
So….your spatial cd works better than Dirac?
It works with Dirac!
There's actually another component which Joe has beeen working on. I'm testing it now and we think you will get better results than Dirac.
@@TechnoDad cheaper than $350 I can wait!!
Will i be able to use an mk1 mic with your guys’ calibration disc or how does it work? Thanks.
Marantz Cinema 40 owner, question: at 4:13 you select 6 height speakers, but the only speakers selected below that are Top Front amd Top Middle. That’s only 4 speakers, not 6. Also, the diagram on the right does show 6 in-ceiling speakers, which appear to be TF, TM and Top Rear. I am not convinced with this menu selection that we are actually powering 6 speakers. Same thing happens at 3:45 where you have selected 6 height speakers, but only Front Height and Top Middle are chosen below - again, only 4 speakers. And in this case, the diagram appears to gray out the two Rear Height speakers, only showing FH and TM in white (unlike the first example where all 6 are white). Can you please comment? This is the most confusing aspect of setting up heights with this new menu system.
The features and menus are great, like the update. How are the sound dynamics, projection, and spaciousness of the new Denon compared to the 3700 and older? Is it worth the upgrade from the sound quality perspective? How does Denon stack against others such as Onkyo?
Thanks for your videos. Where is the menu - which button in the remote at 4:58?
That's the green button at the bottom of the remote under 'movies.'
@@TechnoDad Thanks. :) It's my mistake. It comes one by one because I chose the Display option in the bottom of the screen. ??? :) I appreciate the reply.
Hey Techno Dad,hope you can help.There is a setting in the 3800 for dialog with 3 settings.Low,med and high.I can't find it anywhere.
During Play, hit "Options" button on the remote control, then go 3x down to "AVR Options..." -> then the first entry is your "Dialog Enhancer".
@@MiccaPhone Thanks,I couldn't find it.The dialog was so poor.I had to boost it up.
Will all versions of the X3800H receive the update or just the 2023 versions?
I'm not sure, but I think they all should.
Does Marantz only have a blue menu?
Not sure if it can be changed
are they available for the X3700H? specially the Direct Live?
I don't think so...
Hope you could share your insights.
I am using a denon 3800h with all 4 OHM Emotiva speakers.
11 channel Tonewinner Amp @ $1775.00 with no tax on summit website.
or
Emotiva XPA Gen 3 11 channel at current sale going on $1,931.00 with tax on Emotiva website.
Or do you have another combo to get me to the 11 channel?
I am not overly familiar with either, thoughts?
How long did this update take??? Mone has been updating for over an hour. It said 14 minutes but I obviously have exceeded that.
About 20 mins...
Thank you...worked eventually
Thanks Dude! - Will this also be available in my slightly older Denon 4400H AVR?
Wondering the same thing
Unfortunately, no. This is only for the current lineup.
is the menu diffrent in the 4800h? mine still looks outdated
The X4800H should be the same. Have you tried going into the update area in the menu?
@@TechnoDad it updated a few weeks ago. my menu hasnt changed its look. i have the X4400H. it says firmware 5461-2041-8331-8190
Does the Denton and Marantz latest updates feature the 4K 120HZ VRR for gaming?
Hi Asaf! Yes, this does support 4K 120Hz HDR VRR.
Gonna order a 3800 at the end of the month so I can run 5.2.4 right now I have a s760h
Cool! If you're in the US hit me up when you're ready. I'll get you set up!
I upgraded to the 3800 from s760h. Definitely worth it.
@@UnitedRedDevil13 nice good to hear lol
No update for 8500HA?
I don't think so...
Still got my x3800h, I feel like my setup sounds awesome right now but tempted to try Dirac. Not sure if it’s worth that premium though? I do own a mini dap mic already. What are your thoughts? Thanks!
Don’t update just yet, it can break a few things.
Will the 4700h get Dirac?
No, just the newer ones...
Hello great you are number 1!! I wanted to ask you I have a denon 3800 is an emotional basx a2 with 11 channels if you want to add 2 channels and have a way not to attack / detach with the amplifier what can I use give me a tip!! Thanks a lot
Hi, after the updates the shuffle mode when playing usb is removed! This is important when listening alot of music.... someone recognized this? Hopefully it's gonna be back after a new update! Shuffle on the remote is also missing.... better have shuffle than the option zone ,3,4 etc....
More things are broken…
I just updated my Denon 2700h to the latest firmware hoping they would have resolved the VRR issue on PS5. And of course it’s still present. My tv screen just keeps flickering on and off once I enable VRR on my PS5. Im not sure why this is happening. My tv is capable of using VRR at 1080p . I have a 2019 Samsung Q70r which has VRR freesync ultimate. Anyone else experiencing VRR issues when connecting directly to the Denon. It works fine when I connect to the tv but unfortunately this model doesn’t support EARC and I don’t want to lose audio quality because it uses an ARC port .
What is your external amp?
I have two! Parasound A51 for the ear level speakers and Parasound A52+ for the Height Speakers.
@@TechnoDad thanks
Are they updating the 3600?
No…
I hope they didn't remove Auro3D. that was the main reason I bought my 4700h almost 1 yr ago.??
Nice video, thanks for posting this.
Thank you!
Downloaded your demo video atmosphere interactive 1080 p I only have 7.2 nice upgrade from 5.1 for just $50 any hoo using this I froufrou I had my hight speakers reversed now fixed thank you
You're very welcome!
That new distribution feature is dope! 🤘
Lots of tinkering can be done!
Hey techno Dad, Do you think Aliens from other planets have computers and are using our internet because I've been getting slower then normal speeds
Possibly!
@Techno Dad I bet they are playing that diablo Iv beta
Thank you for the update , 👍
You're welcome!
Channa D my man good to see you videoing my friend.
Thank you, Michael!
VIEWER REQUESTED!!! You're such a gentleman! =) he/him? or .. they/them? =) ... just checking.
haha.. Thanks for another great in-depth overview =) (20 channels!!)
LOL! 20 Height channels!!!
@@TechnoDad ... in the ever lasting meme phrase of our lord & saviour ..Kylo Ren ..
MORE !!
Don't bother with Dirac on Denon X3800H,I ran dirac,loaded it on my AVR and was truly disappointed.Volume is low and sound is muffled.When I look in the settings menu the levels and distance are all at 0.0. I don't get it I have a RZ50 in bedroom and it sounds fantastic with Dirac.
Dirac is great but it's not a magic bullet! When the movie sound Dynamics change Denon AVR owners will probably have to reach for the remote control yet again and that's with or without a dirac.
@@Antibackgroundnoise I re ran Dirac today and got great results!! Something probably went wrong when I first ran it.
@@wilfredohernandez2257 so which you prefer so far? Audyssey xt32 with DEQ or Dirac ?
@@UnitedRedDevil13 I re ran Dirac and now it sounds great !! I did an comparison with both with movies and music and I like Dirac more than Audyssey,I switched presets back and forth,Dirac is much clearer and the bass is tighter as far as I hear on my system.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
No love for my Marantz 7706😢😅😂
Hello Jones
No go!