2019 Politicon Panel Gets HEATED (Highlights)
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"The true divide in this country is populists vs elitists rather than left vs right." Exactly!
-Kyle Kulinski
Yes but you will not find real populists on the right. They will be fake populists like Trump talking like a real one but selling out to the republican establishment. And ever if a real right wing populist look existed how would he look like: climate change denier? Hating immigrants? Anti social savety net?
This still sounds horrible to me.
legs vs no legs - youtube community
@@freetobeme3943 - You're describing Trump, not the people. The polls show that the majority of Americans (including ones on the right) want Medicare for all, a living wage, ending wars, free college, etc. etc. That's what Kyle means by populists. When you actually focus on the policy, there's actually alot of common ground that exist amongst most Americans.
AndyB, even if Republicans were against those things, THEY ARE NOT THE REAL MAJORITY!! If every American that could vote did, there would never be another Republican politician in government. Even Republicans know this.
They would have to RADICALLY shift their agenda to even attract the fringe of the real majority.
@@magnummax78 - The same holds true for the Democratic party as well. There are 100 million Americans who don't vote, because neither party are appealing.
Tomi Lahren: If you hate America why don't you just leave?....
Also Tomi: I hate California and liberals but I'm still here...
Bryan she learnt that from Trump
Exactly
She thought for a second she was talking to her dim wit audience.
She also threw the "How are you going to pay for it?" … every single one of Bernie Sanders' proposals is financed. She would know already, had she done her homework.
Good job catching that brother I hadn't even noticed lol
“Why don’t you move?” - Tomi Lahren
Too painful and cringy to watch a second time.
The way he responded was freaking insane though! Just bulldozed right over her garbage!
the fact she used those arguements proved she didnt study or care about kyle or the progressive arguements. to even the level kyle does about conservatives
20:10😪😂
I wish she would leave the earth. I hear the weather on Mercury is great this time of the year.
The best part was her trying to take the moral high ground later and say she doesn't personally attack people after telling Kyle he should leave.
Kyle is so consistent with his positions that it’s impossible to call them purely partisan. You can agree or disagree with them, but he has intellectual standards that cross party lines.
Yeah, and I don't even like the "left"/"leftist", "right" labels. I haven't seen them get well defined to begin with. They're too simplistic and vague. But even then, in practice everyone attributes stupid contemporary things to one side or the other. And of course, all of the worst things have to be part of *the other side* while I might be picky what's on *my side* . It also just naturally divides the society, and finding a healthy political debate seems almost impossible.
@Taylor Lemoine the vast majority of people on welfare work full time yet do not make a living wage.
@Taylor Lemoine they work multiple.part time jobs
@Taylor Lemoine Yes, but those are not the same thing.
Which is why it's so hard to debate him
The day Kyle debates Shapiro will be the day I ascend to heaven.
And that will be the greatest Christmas gift I ever wanted
I wonder how faster and faster Shapiro has to talk to sound like he's even debating Kyle
Um... great comment. I couldn't come up with anything else lol
David Pakman & Kyle Kulinski vs Ben Shapiro & Steven Crowder
I’d legitimately pay to watch that debate
mal maller
Please make it happen.
I’ll pay hundreds for tickets.
"How you gonna pay for it?"
$686B military budget. Amazon paying 0 in taxes. Hmm, that's a tough one.
That won't even come close to fund Medicare 4 All.
@@chaunceystewart9960 - The 'system' we have now is more expensive than M4A.
@@chaunceystewart9960 and you think the current path is sustainable? M4All already has a study that shows it being cheaper in total cost compared to what we have now bout trillions. So explain how we can fund our current system vs any other system. Yes Kyle fights for M4All but as he said, he would accept any system that includes cutting out the insurance company. That's called principle.
@@henrytep8884 You should actually read the study. The author of the study, Charles Blahous, hammered Bernie Sanders for misrepresenting the '2 trillion dollar savings' by not mentioning the massive cuts that would need to be made in order to reduce the costs of health care. Such as reducing medical specialist's salaries by up to 50%.
@@chaunceystewart9960 it's pretty fuckin ridiculous that a modern country with the GDP is somehow not providing healthcare for the citizens.
Corporatists have done a number on the US people by convincing them that they should accept the fact that poor and middle income workers have to use a go fund me not to die.
"Everyone is here for Kyle, we get it."
This was so so fucking beautiful to hear.
She's so jealous, what a wonderful works we live in.
Time stamp?
@@arik2916 somewhere around 23:00 I think. Might be + - 2min
Was wrong. Around 29:30 actually
@@arik2916 29:30
"Give it up for Tomi Lahren!"
*Mild claps*
"And Kyle Kulinski"
*CROWD ROAR*
As it should be
Tanked
It gives me hope in humanity
tim black, "i can't believe were talking about the corporate media as if it's for the people at all, corporate media is for the advertisers". NAILED IT!!!
heard
tomitstube I love ❤️ Tim Black he’s very smart and hilarious 😂
I mean, he is absolutely right.
tomitstube we need to know the difference mainstream media , social media. Is NOT journalist. That’s what we have to support real journalist.
Tim Black is freaking awesome.
Tomi lauren is such a snowflake victim. Incredible performance Kyle 👏
*Tamarind Lasagna
Great to see you here dude, your tutorials are amazing!
Awesome, love to see you here. Been starting on your webdev stuff, great content!
Hi Brad!
@@Krispio666 I didn't notice he was a channel... I'll take a look at TM, I might have some use for it.
Thanks for sticking up for what you believe in, baby. I don't know that I'd have that courage if I hit it main stream.
"Everyone is here for Kyle" Yes, yes they are.
And Tim
I doubt it. When they ask for impeachment half the crowd said no. I would assume if they're there for Kyle they'd be for it.
@@ericsmith116 Kyle said he's against it because it's a waste of political ammunition so he sees impeachment as a non priority. He only supports impeachment if it comes from the side of emoluments and that's a very significant caveat. The reason why it's a significant caveat is because the democratic party is doing everything within its power to not make it about emoluments because establishment democrats are just as corrupt as trump on that regard.
@@ericsmith116 I think it's to Kyle's point, that thinking Trump committed impeachable actions is different from being for impeachment, because of the consequences impeachment can have for the country. For one, if the impeachment doesn't follow through (which it won't because of the majority controlled senate) Trump might come out stronger. Even if it does happen, take the case of Brazil which impeached its president in 2016 and is still divided to this day. New elections have even been held since, but the country's democracy has not recovered from the aftermath. I love Kyle and I'm with Tim that at this point and under these circumstances the best way to get rid of Trump is through the ballot (and my fear is that the DNC would rather lose to Trump once again than help elect Bernie).
@@ericsmith116 Not a good point since Kyle's been skeptical of impeachment since the first moment its been brought up.
I'm only for impeachment if its for Warcrimes, so that's an example right there.
Tomi Lahren looks like she's trying to disguise herself as part of the backdrop 😂
😂😂😂😂
And failing miserably
@Mike G oh god! Oh no! I feel so roasted! 😂😂😂
This bitch Lahren makes my skin crawl.
@Mike G Never have kids, for the sake of us all
Whoever Big Seltzer hired to do the CGI for Kyle's legs did a good job.
Thems robotic legs I tells ya! Aaarrrrh! 😁
😭😭😭😭😭
Ik right
Real shit hes got dope legs to
I never saw legs moving, clearly fake.
Why don't you just leave?
The same reason I don't move if one of the windows in my house is broken.
thats actually great analogy, because what do you do when a window is broken? you get its fixed, or replaced.
On point as fuck.
This comment needs more thumbs up.
This is the perfect analogy! I'm totally "borrowing it" the next time the weird side of my family comes over for Sunday BBQ.
Damn. That’s a great way to put that
Tomi isn't used to arguing with people who know what they're talking about
Fascist Barbie needs to go away.
@@jaguarrose7022 Let's be fair now. She represents a significant part of the electorate. Not me. I'm with Kyle and Tim, Jimmy Dore and Sam Seder on a lot.
Charity Achusim fuck Thom Hartmann but I’m with you.
Also Kyle and tim were punching down debating such low level right wing trolls
Might I suggest Steven crowder and BCP for right wing commentators next time
@@charlierichardson3169 you mean #coldfeet Steven Crowder😂😂😂😂😂😂
Cold feet Steven Crowder is a Coward he isn't debating anyone(other than unprepared college kids)
Fox News Democrats spoiled her. :)
Who is the guy with legs who sounds just like Kyle Kulinski?
Kairu Kurinsuki
thats big seltzer
His big seltzer clone
Them legs do look good :o
Pewdiepie
Kyle was the star, but Tim Black should get some love too. He held his own and made some great points.
Saw him in a Rising interview, I’ll definitely consider him, Johnson.
Proud wolf pack member here!
TB!
Tim & Kyle together crushed it
I like Tim Black Johnson!
Tomi: I try to not attack the person.
Tomi on Kaepernick: He can't play football!
Neither can the Redskins but yet they are still in the NFL
Or the dolphins for that matter lol
Well Colin was only good in his rookie year because at that time the 49ers had a good coach and good players but when all that went away he started sucking which is why they benched him.
@@Satan97458 no. Kap is still better than any qb on the Bengals, Dolphins, Bears, Bills, Panthers and I'm sure there's more. So put down the pipe. (edit) If you think Harbaugh is a good coach, you don't watch football. Your argument is redundant anyways because any average player can look good being surrounded by superior talent.
B A Baracas I support kap, but to say that he is better than any quarterback on the panthers is asinine... Cam Newton is way better than kap.
This is proof that a true left-wing populist absolutely demolishes any opposition. Great job Kyle!
I don't think it about being left wing.. it's more about someone who wants to make progress and tells the truth.
@Xeccelerator not really. Anyone can be a cheerleader for progress, either left or right.
@@fluffzone6100 Lmao no 😂
@@mintchocolatechip273 keep thinking that, buddy. The world isn't black and white like your brain is (probably) programmed to think.
@@fluffzone6100 The left wants to progress, the right doesn't, that's why they call em CONSERVatives
“Tomi Lahren is on TV because she’s probably attractive to the people that watch her show, not because she’s a political scientist or sociologist or someone qualified to address society’s ills. She, like so many other journalists, plays to an audience comprised of people seeking affirmation, not facts. It’s not her fault, really it’s not. Its ours. We as a society have failed because people like Tomi Lahren exist.”- Eric Berry
I would say your totally right, and I would say that is true about Lauren and Kyle as well. The other guy I have never heard of so I cannot speak on.
Kyle is not in any way affirmative to corporate media. He is not a talking head. They were created by completely different situations. Kyle is here because people needed a COUNTER to the situation you're talking about.
Kyle is not in any way affirmative to corporate media. He is not a talking head. They were created by completely different situations. Kyle is here because people needed a COUNTER to the situation you're talking about.
@@MrDavidKord Kyle is the same thing just on the other side of the spectrum, it doesn't matter if he was created by corporate media or not, his ideas are basic and usually easily rebutted just like Tomi's.
@@TheRednose3269 Ok... give me a rebuttal to Medicare for All as a policy proposal. We raise taxes on the rich and corporations (a wealth tax), close tax loopholes that allow them to pay taxes elsewhere when making money here, give every citizen a medicare card, and have all healthcare paid for through participation in that program (single payer), which cuts out copays, deductibles, the need for employer provided insurance, the monthly tax of private insurance, and the absurd problem of having no healthcare coverage when out of area. This idea is practiced in 1st world countries all over the world (not just in Europe, but places like South Korea and Australia as well) and universally creates better outcomes and cheaper service for the large majority of citizens in those systems. Directly from Kyle Kulinsky.
Lahren actually went to the “why don’t you move” talking point.
Crazy lol
Intellectual bankruptcy
yet she doesn't move because of an issue she doesn't like
All she knows are teleprompter right wing talking points
Not really when your brain is a steaming pile of shit doing everything in its power to cope with the cognitive dissonance of having no actual argument.
If he was black.......this would have gotten ugly
Kyle's production budget must be huge. Those cgi legs are scarily convincing.
Seltzer money is a lotta money
Deep state budget didn't hold back.
@@akmal94ibrahim I was gonna say similar. Big Seltzer paid him to push their agenda at Politicon
6:45
You can clearly see how Kyle isn't used to wearing them 😂😁
He must be taking big money
She really pulled the “why don’t you just move” argument
Seriously tho right. Its so pathetic.
Its a good go to when you’re on tv and viewers can’t respond. I hope she felt stupid after kyles response
@@seanlo8330 I like how the right has seriously adopted that standpoint. Just accept the status quo and never try to improve society and leave if you dont like it. This country is literally founded on being able to change laws especially when the people arent satisfied
Kyle's and the audience's response was the best! Warmed my heart
@@Spongebrain97 Because republicans totally all left after Obama became president... Oh wait, they didn't? It's a talking point that actual fascists drag out usually for minorities. Why Tomi tried using it on Kyle, I don't know. If that's the best they got for a real American with principles. Political hacks are in for a world of hurt. Come 2020 thru the rest of time.
The funny thing is when I was a kid, my Dad pulled the "Well, it's America. If you don't like it, get out" and I was just like "wow, that's thw dumbest thing I ever heard."
"If you dont like it, why dont you move?"
*Lives in California
Anthony Lalama once a beautiful red state
@@ruckustv7614 We learned from our mistakes. Unlike so many other states.
Mitchthemysteryman what was one a beautiful state worlds 3 rd largest economy now the 5th thanks to democratic policies the exodus is going to keep happening homelessness is up cost of living is shit jobs here r shit
@@ruckustv7614 its the Left that makes California great. The right pulls it down.
Thomas MacKelly false our cities are shit holes thanks to liberal left policies
Literally nothing Tarni Lohen says makes any sense. She's trying to toe the line on every issue and comes out saying... nothing
Taylor Lynn well when every question you get asked you have to think “what am i supposed to say” instead of just saying how you actually feel that can happen
She's another "fake populist"
If she didn’t have her looks, she wouldn’t be on there.
@@HB-ow9wy Yea she parrots boomer talking points and gives them a little bit more than Fox level T&A. That's why shes popular.
H B Same with Kyle. He wouldn’t be anywhere without his good looking legs
I like how Tomi is quiet around smart people
explains why she's so loud on her own channel and Fox news segments
Right. She is loud and arrogant on her show when she is by herself. But looks like a child at the table with adults here. I don't think they called her out enough
MegaMusek ...yet she still manages to ramble nonsense.
Lauren Chen was the silent one lol. She pulled a roaming millennial lol
@nakesha Skerritt-philip her fans didnt come
"Everyone's hear for Kyle" - The first time Tomi Lahren has ever been right.
Not true...... I'm here for Tim Black!!!
I hate to be a dick but it’s ‘here’ not ‘hear’
Here*
Here*
Why would you go to comment *here after seeing four fuckin' comments before already saying it?
I’m a simple man, when I see Tomi Laren about to get destroyed I click
In this situation.. I'm a Simp... To click
The president is a man of the people
Shes such a terrible political figure
@@jeffreyvalentyn6815 idk if you’re talking about Biden or Trump, but you’d be wrong in both cases lol
@@southbayjay2540 I think he’s talking about Kyle
When Tomi Lahren has to wear camouflage to hide from the Kyledriver.
lol
lmao the kyledriver I love it
OOOh yeah! Kyledriver is now a thing
@@xbsdbsdbx I can't take credit for it, but it is great. 😃
She's an obvious phony, suck up shill wearing patriotic colors. Watch any video of people who are overly patriotic/nationalistic tend to be corrupt, authoritarian, even fascist.
Kyle is such a good debater. No bullshit, just facts.
He broke her widdle MAGAt bwain
"DISSENT IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF PATRIOTISM" SAY IT LOUDER!!!
Meg Milner to create a more perfect union. Aka continue to make changes
I want my country to fucking BEHAVE!
The colonies were built on decent and going againsts disinterested big government. Now Republicans want to be the neo red coats
@@armyboy0579 it's not your country. and freedom aint free if you gotta live under a small mind like yours.
@Lil Rawri Damn Monarchists like you, such irony in the statement "dumb line" i'm afraid youre too much a fool for me to do unwrap it further than to calll you the dumb.
Tomi: "If you want a better life, why don't you move to a different country?"
Immigrants: **Come to America**
Tomi: "wait no..."
She means legally🤦🏼♀️ not hard to understand. We want less criminal activity. Thanks
Andrea Christine American citizens have killed the most people compared to any illegal immigrant
@@andreachristine5364 Here she is, i found her!
@@ianm8218 and illegal immigrants have killed more people than any American citizen. Lol duh write much?
@@joshuaknepshield4687 wow that went right over your head. Read the comment I am replying to.
"My dad died for that flag!",
"thats funny, i bought mine."
"My dad died in korea for that flag!",
"My flag was made in korea" - Bill Hicks
Good one.
Hicks was also against guns and George HW Bush. Beyond that, Bill Hicks would have distanced himself from the Free Speech hating Left like the plague. Same goes for Carlin, Bruce, Pryor, Kinison, and the rest of the dead heroes who spent their lives making people laugh and adding truth to their work. The enemies have always been the same...the goals have always been the same. Cancel Culture/Censorship was a Right Wing phenomena in their time...so they fought those people. They'd be fighting the woke Twitter brigades for the exact same reason today....just like the rest of the country. See you all in 2020.
@@Gekokujo76 Nobody is censoring you, you fucking pussy. We just wish you would voluntarily go fuck yourself and shut the fuck up.
Hilarious that Im being called a "right winger" by you NPC clones. You either get to be woke or you get to be for Free Speech. You dont get to be both anymore. Im a Christian Abortionist!!!! No you arent. The Right Wing doesnt get people fired for bad Twitter jokes. The Right Wing didnt ruin comic book movies with their political beliefs, and The Right Wing isnt attacking senior citizens for wearing the wrong hat. "We just wish you'd shut up and go away".....wishing it and manipulating social media to accomplish it are two different things, but not so far removed as you'd think. Half dead hypocrites. I MUST BE A LITERAL NAZI!!!! You people are a fucking joke.
I'm so tired of people saying "People died for the flag" no, they fought and died for Americans, not a piece of cloth!!
Suspicious how his "legs" stay in one position the entire time
^^^^
Deepfake 🦵
#realisticprosthetic
I don't see any legs
A.I.
"if you hate america why don't you move?"
Kyle:I don't have legs
I laughed for so long 🤣
😂😂👍
Ha!
I always pictured Kyle would look like the guy in Getting Over It with Bennett Foddy
Is Kyle from the pewds clan of legless people?
Seeing Kyle verbally DESTROY Tomi Lauren makes my day.
Jake Navatka now we gotta wait for him to really destroy her ;)
@@snow6094 nice 😂
@Gothsoyboy Exactly 💯🎯 👍🏼
Kyle lost bruh.
@@mikeb9618 Keep telling yourself that, it still won't make it true.
Damn Kyle you have a good confidence on debating you don’t struggle. Proud of being a progressive
Kyle makes me feel proud to be a independent / progressive voter.
#KyleForPresident
I didn’t know he was so popular... saw the livestream of this and the applause floored me.. plus people in livestream we’re all bernie bros
Mr Irrational He’s a New Yorker, it’s in the attitude.
@jon jones didnt mean in a condasending way i agree his base is the working people
Tomi Lahren performed even worse than my already low expectations.
Agree
Why don't you just move to a different video if you hate it so much here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
She is not a smart person!
@@mav8535 would I be allowed to come back?
She thought she got him when she asked how your going to pay for it😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Kyle literally mocks this and it happens exactly the way he describes
Tomi: “I don’t want to talk about Colin Kaepernick right now”
That was literally what the topic was about Tomi, Jesus Christ
she was literally trying to deflect from colin because she knows shes the only one in that room that would ever agree with herself.
Cuz she knows Tim and Kyle would destroy basically all of her talking points on the topic. Her rhetoric only works on Cult45.
She should've left the stage.
Colin Kaepernick was horrible. Politics aside, he was horrible. Defenses figured him out. Lost his job to Gabbert. He had a good run when he piggybacked off of Alex Smith's run. He was 1-10 in his last season. At the end of the day, to be a starting quarterback you have to be better than that and make those around you be better. He was offered a back up job and didn't take it. He is a divisive character, regardless of where you stand on the political issue, he is a divisive figure. Divisiveness is a cancer to the locker room. Colin Kaepernick was not wanted for these reasons, the politics simply aggravated the already bad circumstances.
@@jesusisc0mings00n3 You are 100% right. Look at Terrell Owens as an example. A great player but caused so much division. The teams would do well with him until he put his attitude in the locker room, the field and in front of the cameras. Terrell tried hard to get a team to sign him after everyone figured him out, but they knew what baggage and problems he would bring. Colin is the same with less talent.
"No one is funding us to say what we say'
...Tomi sinks in her seat....
lol you mean she adjusted herself. Way to make something out of nothing
@@colinwin6916 foreal...
@@colinwin6916 I mean she's def being paid to spew all that nonsense. She spoke very differently in her college years before the $$ was thrown at her
Colin W But it’s still true though, right?
@@timmcelroy2188 so did cenk....and the young turks have got funding too. I'm not sure why this is somehow a gotcha moment....
I love how Tomi goes “the reason for Kaepernick’s kneeling was lost in a whole different discussion” yeah, you were one of the people purposefully moving the conversation to be about him nor the issue!
Mattovich Mahunik and then she didn’t wanna talk about kaepernick anymore ... Lol
Lmao!! Exactly. She usual embarrassed herself
Kaepernick was not pushing for a discussion to begin with. That was the problem.
@The Observer Kneeling in front of the flag is free speech and protected by the first amendment. Nobody should be fired for exercising their first amendment rights in ways that aren't harmful to anyone. What part of that do you disagree with? Or are you that deeply hurt by someone kneeling in front of the flag? There is a reason Tomi didn't want to continue talking about it.
@@whyamimrpink78
Fuck, you really are insufferable.
You are one of the most consistently vacuous and preposterous attention seeking trolls I come across. It all seems so disingenuous, too, like you're smart enough to know better, but you just have a shit life where people just don't value you or something, like a marginalized child acting out for attention.
It's like you're incapable of broaching topics with genuine good faith, there is never a charitable steel man from you, just disingenuous straw men.
I know you're smart enough to do better. Does your life suck so bad, do you feel so insignificant, so angry, lonely, and hurt, that you must go about the Internet trolling with inane conjecture?
"Everyone's here for Kyle, we get it" she's so salty lolol
Timestamp?
I thought the right said that Kyle was unpopular. 😂 Isn't Tennessee a red state?
Statutory Grape
Lotta cucks bought out all the tickets. There was about two alpha male leader protagonists in the crowd who represented Tomi.
/s
And Kyle's NOT on Mommy's ObamaCare.
Tyko Brian "Timestamp?"
29:36
Tomi: he was fired because he’s not good enough
Kyle: He is good enough, he’s a professional player
Moderator: that’s debatable
Are you kidding me?
Being a professional player doesn't necessarily mean he was good enough to be on the team, but I do believe if he hadn't kneeled, he wouldn't have been fired.
O. C. Exactly thank you for bringing that up. The so-called ‘moderator’, some guy who works at Cheddar(wtf? is cheddar still around?) he made sure to ask Tomi almost every question first, he barely went to Tim Black. Who the hell is that Canadian chick? &the ‘moderator’ did all he could to steer the conversation away from anything to in depth cause he knew that it’d make Tomi look bad. I think they should have more fair minded moderators that actually know how to moderate without letting their agenda/personal biases/opinions/beliefs take away from the substance of the conversation! I think it’s very clear that the only way politicon was able to get Tomi to agree to be there was by promising her that she wouldn’t get embarrassed and that the moderator wouldn’t let anything get to outta her comfort zone. But then she started in with all the bullshit talking points and her hypocritical points just, I mean it was pathetic really. I could tell that Tim and Kyle were holding back a lot. At least in comparison to other public conversations I’ve seen them both have.
O. C. He had a pathetic hardon for Tomato the whole time lol she’s not gonna fuck you
What the people who don’t know anything about football aren’t aware of is there are 2nd and sometimes 3rd string QBs and even practice squad QBs too. There are 32 teams in the NFL with at least 3 QBs per team if not 4. That’s between 96-128 QBs getting paid by the NFL. So, this starter that led his team to a Super Bowl (and lost to my Ravens who were also the last team to consider taking a shot at Kap) isn’t good enough to even do any of those lower string positions?!?!?!? That’s BS and these people that say such things probably think you’re either a starter or get fired, period. I’d suggest to get informed before you open your trap
And he went to the super bowl..
Tomi argues like a middle school child.
Stay in your echo chamber with the all too familiar.
@@swingtriple lol! Ok, you funny little cretin.
@@swingtriple SHUT UP YOU WRETCHED SON OF A BITCH
morgan browne Dumb blonde lady right?
@@swingtriple echo chambers implies some form of plagiarism... that's a conservative strat
Tomi: “If the industrialized world has already done this, then why don’t you leave”
Everyone in the crowd, and everyone watching this video: “BOOOOOOOOOO”
Wet Yeti 20:08 She's using boomer arguments in 2019.🤦♂️
@Professional GEARS player You don't like having medical debt? GTFO of the greatest countree in da world murica
It's a trick. Change the subject instead of answering the question. Then hop to the other foot when you are called on it. "I didn't say you hate America! Who, little ol' me?"
If America isn't already 'Great,' why do the likes of Lahren support Trump? Why don't they go move to Somalia with its tax-free small government?
RedLightMax To kids....
The crowd response to Kyle and Bernie makes my heart happy and gives me a bit of hope for the future of the US.
Me too!
AND, this is in TENNESSEE!!
ZayaJ
It’s not like people in Tennessee all went to this event. I would taper your expectations.
@@zayajazz817 its Nashville
Me 2
Tomi actually went to the “why don’t you move?” Talking point?
Besides that nonsense Kyle rocked this discussion.
Because she knows Kyle can't move because his legs are fake.
Low blow....
Whi te it’s a stupid talking point that Kyle basically smiled and said yes she said it time to bash this over her head. He absolutely crushed her.
A lot of the right wing talking points have been the same for many years. From the top to the bottom. There is not really that big a difference.
We're waiting bitch.
@@conbinspark3144 underrated comment 😂😂😂
She went straight to the "why don't you move" nonsense.
God, Tomi is so lame.
I had to rewind it a few times to hear what she said but when I heard it, i realized why it sounded so stupid. That's not even a real debate response, just a red herring that shuts the discussion down
That's what people do when they lost & can't provide credible rebuttal.
I'm ready with my "how about you move bitch, it's my country" response.
I'm ready with my "how about you move bitch, it's my country" response.
Moderator: we are going to avoid having a debate let’s just talk and sing kumbaya
Councilman Les Wynan he never personally attacked her. He asked her to own it, because she gassed lights on issues. She won’t back her shit up.
@Councilman Les Wynan How are you supposed to have a debate in which no one goes on the offense? That's not a debate, it's a pretentious circlejerk.
The moderator is a joke.
@@radiatormike what's the point of going on the offence of you're don't even believe the bs your saying, spoils just agree where you agree and disagree where there is actual reasons to disagree
@@radiatormike So in your weird definition of debate, it has to be about personal attacks; otherwise it's just a "pretentious circle jerk"? Okay, here's a personal attack then, since you seem upset to not see any; you're an ignorant idiot that doesn't understand what a debate is. I'm not debating you; just making a personal observation about you that you can call an attack. See the difference yet?
The answer to "how you gonna pay for it?" should be "we already are - so where's our health care?"
damn right
“How are you gonna pay for it” by itself isn’t a problem. However what I hate about it is it’s used a tool to prevent change from occurring
@@JohnSmith-bk9vp It's not about the substance as much as the framing. People are change-resistant but they don't like feeling like they were cheated.
Yep
@@JohnSmith-bk9vp exactly
Kyle makes a valid, rational, and factual point.
Tomi: wHy DoN’t YoU lEaVe?!?!?
Glenn M I want to punch people in the face that say that. I would love to leave...but it’s called getting a work visa, getting a job abroad, getting citizenship...that is fuckin hard
Yeah why should we be a refugee, we literally what to make it better for everyone, including people like Tomhi.
If you don't like people farting in elevators, why get in them?
@Scott Covert dont be an idiot. Have you gone through TSA and customs? Dumbass
Scott Covert you realize our net immigration has consistently gone down year over year for last ten years right?
Kyle has no problem shamelessly showing off his own corruption...
taking sips from that sweet seltzer.
Big seltzer bias. Corporate carbonation shill !
Big seltzer Kyle for president
@Taylor Lemoine guess you forgot to read didnt you.
@Taylor Lemoine JEW
@Taylor Lemoine ♧
Below Comments:
30% Kyle Driver
70% Leg Fetish
Wait, are there Above Comments? I knew I was missing out on something...
@@CephalicMiasma4 it's big seltzer
Fuckin basically
Lmao
As it should be.
Right. They act like we didn't see the legs last year
One of my lowkey favorite moments of tonight was when the moderator said "I want that level of enthusiasm for every panelist!" after Kyle spoke. Because he got booming applause after other panelists got half-hearted cheering lmao, Kyle got some fan power..and power to the people 🔥
Tim is my favorite and he held his own.
I hope Kyle and Tim Black have a collab in the future.
I mean, there is a reason why nobody came to politicon to see Tomi.
She is doing a Tucker Carlson, agree and play nice. Then go back and spew vile rhetoric on her show.
Tim and Kyle on the same stage!
Wasn’t expecting to see you here senpai.
Mr. Beat you’re the goat
Mr beat u watch secular talk
Mr beaaaaaattt!!!!!!! I love your channel!
Mr Beat glad to see you here, you make great content, fellow Kansans gotta represent!
When Kyle schools her she blames it on the audience because she's not used to talking in front of people who aren't completely brain dead
Great job Kyle, you were like a young Noam Chomsky up there 👍💪
Which is exactly why nobody came to politicon to see HER.
Mr Todd YES!!
That’s what trump rallies are full of!
He is a young Noam chomsky
Hes great on this one!
Conservatives always say “I have the right to disagree with something” as if anyone is preventing them from saying that.
On college capuses they get deplatformed. Even if they're not conservative, like Richard Dawkins.
"College Campuses" Are not the government! They are private entities who have the right to deny anyone in their private grounds. Isn't private privacy of big companies and their private hush money what conservatives been advocating for years now? They only become vocal when it turns against them of course.
Right?! They have a right to say dumb things, but I have a right to tell them that they’re full of it. Conservatives don’t want free speech they just want to say awful things without being criticized
Government can be sued too in parts. Plus sues are for breaking contracts not discrimination or suppression of speech. College campus owners have no obligation to let anyone talk. They can just say I don't want you to talk cause you a conservative or a progressive. You can't do a damn thing about it. Meanwhile if it was police or other government agencies refusing to hear you for the same reason, they'd be sacked.
Conservatives cry TH-cam is treating them unfairly, Well that is unregulated free market capitalism for you. TH-cam can just say screw you I don't like what your politics and simply de-platforms and TH-cam has every right to do that since it is a private citizen since corporations are people in this country! It's not suppression of freedom of speech if big corporations do it and that is what the right refuses to admit. They somehow blame it on lefties...
What the left wants is regulations on these big corporations so they can't suppress freedom of speech because of discrimination. The right hates regulations and blocks any attempt to regulate these huge companies, they deserve the backfire dearly.
@@tonycomfort9467 College campuses owned BY conservatives pushing a neoliberal agenda? You mean THOSE college campuses?
"if you hate america why don't you move?"
The "counter culture" movement using boomer talking points, as usual
In other words "If you don't like how your kid is turning out, why don't you put a bullet to its head?!" It makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
Was that argument SERIOUSLY used in this holy shit
This dumb, faddish use of the insult 'boomer' is really hackneyed and counter-productive. Plus the 'if you hate America why don't you move?' question is more likely to have been said to baby-boomers than to have been said by them.
Wonder if anyone said that to her when Obama was in office.
@@christiandaugherty6339 look at the comments of turning point usa's facebook page. It's all boomers making stale right-wing talking points. I ain't making this up
“Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.” I might borrow that.
I agree, that’s one of my more liked quotes regarding that kind of issue. Just for some background it was coined during the era of Vietnam, with the original full quote being "If what your country is doing seems to you practically and morally wrong, is dissent not the highest form of patriotism?"
...only if the opposing party is in power
brwi1 Not necessarily, the Obama administration did a lot that was worthy of protest as well. Though I think the sentiment is more saying to not just (in this instance) falsely label hatred of the troops/country as a protestors one and only motivation, as that would be absurd. Like which makes more sense this guy kneeling to protest what he says he’s protesting, or the thought that he secretly hates the military even though he’s been on record multiple times as saying that’s not the case. So for the whole Kaepernick situation I see it as a sort of Occam’s razor.
Aaron Potter where were the marches when Obama was murdering brown people abroad by the hundreds with drones?
brwi1 I didn’t say there were protests for the things that Obama did just that he did many things that were worthy of protest. I would support someone’s right to protest Obama’s misuse of the drone program just as I would Kaepernick raising awareness of police brutality. You’ll find no arguments from me on that front brother.
>Tomi: crickets
>Kyle: applause and actual accomplishments.
no one in the audicence called out Big Seltzer or asked where did he got those legs... dissapointed.
@@ArgKaiser There's always next time, there's always next time.
Poor Tomi. I would've clapped 😂
@@ArgKaiser That guy at the start did shout big seltzer
@@TheDropdeadZed can't catch it. Can you give the timestamp?
I lost it when tomi said she doesn't want to talk about Kaepernick anymore just because she couldn't defend her view after kyle obliterated her on it.
Idiot!
She literally called it a "boring" topic. What bullshit.
She is worst of the worst right up there with Hannity and Ingrahm
Traversy Media good comparison, they parrot the same talking points over and over and over........
lmao she admits "everyone is here for kyle" - when u know u losttt
@Vikram Parahoo yea but her bringing it up is admitting that she can't make a good argument 😂😂
@Vikram Parahoo Yeah but the context and the way she said it was really pathetic and childish. 29:37
That didn't stop Tulsi from standing up to CNN. It didn't stop Kyle from going on Fox. And it didn't stop Tucker Carlson from all the liberal studio visits he made. People exist on every side of the issues. And the ones who really believe in challenging as many people as they can on the issues, they *don't* whine about the playing field
Yeah prolly mad that shes not as popular as him.
@@iller3 Damn right... I hope Cenk Uygur is watching this and taking notes! That debate he did with Ben Shapiro was horrendous.
Tomi: "I know Donald Trump will win in 2020 because I watched the democratic debates."
Also Tomi: "hOw ArE wE gOnNa PaY fOr FrEe StUfF?!"
Me in the Crowd, Shouting: "YOU SAID YOU WATCHED THE DEBATES!!!"
John David Croasdell just tax rich people and corporations? The math does not add up.
I’m on the left, but there are some big problems with Bernies Medicare for all plan. Simply taxing the richest of the rich won’t cover it. There are so many other issues that can come with what Bernie wants to do with his plans.
Now even with those problems I personally believe Medicare for all is better is than what we have now. I just hate how people on the left believe that his, or any progressive plan is without issues.
Many of the progressive plans will cause some huge disparities in the American economy. Economists have said it’ll definitely hurt many middle class citizens financially, and I’m one of them that will end up paying more in Bernies America.
Wait you were actually there? What's it like?
@@justinlacek1481 The crowd was only there for Kyle. Tomi got booed multiple times
@@HomeofdaBONE I figured as much. Kyle's way more popular than her
Moderator: I don’t want it to be about trump vs Bernie.
Also the moderator: let us talk about trump.
Idk who that moderator is but he sucked.
I'm glad somebody else noticed! He was terrible(mostly)! He had some good points, but I really wanted the discussion to center on "new media", "censorship", and on cooperation and elucidation on the ACTUAL issues!
(Like the Surveillance State, Neverending War, The Oligarchic Corporatocracy, and Our Class Based Economy!)
Big love to the guy who booed when the audience was asked if they love their country
i loooooooooooooooooove your name
@@porculizador oh my god. I just noticed
I hope you've made it a point to troll Ben's youtube channel
Lmao
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" WOW
QueenJade I’m going to start using that line. ❤️
It depends on what you're dissenting about....
@Luigi DeNardis how isnt it though? You're endowed with rights and it'd be wholly patriotic to use them to their fullest potential
@Luigi DeNardis It's not Kyle's quote but it's a progressive quote that's literally to counter the conservative narrative that disagreeing with government policy means you hate your country (and should leave). The idea is that true patriots work to make things better, not fall in line behind all the problems that currently exist. The right has a long history of smearing people as anti-American if they don't agree with government policy or wars.
@@dandotvid No it doesn't.
Tomi Lahren lost when she said “wHy HaVeNt YoU mOvEd” when Kyle brought up the fact that every other developed country has free healthcare and college.
The prices of pants has nothing to do with universal healthcare.
Also Americans pay more for healthcare then Canadians. Co-deductible, out of pocket expenses, and look at the medicine. Canada pays way less then half the price for the same damn med's. Davis Mullis you are so clueless.
@@e17171 I live in Canada. I've never waited less than 5 hours in the emergency room waiting area. Additionally, all specialist care, prescriptions, and dental care cost money out of pocket or require you to be on an insurance plan. Quality of care here is not great and I definitely have a lot of ongoing experience with our healthcare system.
@David Mullis i work and I would gladly pay a lil more to help my country
@David Mullis wow what an intelligent response! lol
@Bad Robot yea ur right pants for 50$ is an outrage wtf i mean canada also has 30$ insulin and usa has 300$ insulin but the pants thing is an outrage ... idiot
Give it up for Tomi Lahren!
Audience:
Give it up for Kyle Kuli-
Audience: “I LOVE YOU KYLE!” 👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
The mod tries to invoke false balance even as Kyle rips the notion 😂
BIG SELTZER!!!!!!!!!!
Kyle is awesome but Tim Black made some good points too. They were like, Crockett and Tubbs up there 😂
"H O W A R E Y O U G O N N A P A Y F O R I T ?" - The Great Anchor of American Intellectualism.
My response to that question would be: “You keep asking that question because you’ve never listened to the answer. Are you actually gonna pay attention to the answer or are you going to cut me off and dismiss it before I’m finished speaking?”
Also,"Get out of this country"
Every single one of Bernie Sanders' proposals is financed. She would know already, had she done her homework.
Your argument automatically fails once you ask: "How are you going to pay for it" and "If you don't like it, move."
@@TaddiestMason Tell us how it has been paid for then. Because they have been very calculated in avoiding answering that question
Tomi Lahren is introduced: polite clapping
Kyle is introduced: WOOOOOOO
It was probably her boyfriend and her friends that came lol
It should have been an awkward and long silence.
@@iownthis24 .....and then left the building. LOL.
@Dragon1717 INCLUDING OUTSIDE !!
"Then why don't you move there [other developed nations in the world with free medicare]?"
We stay to fight for a better living condition and a working system for our fellow citizens and for our future generations.
Tomi Lahren:
"Everyone is here for kyle we get it"
C'mon, Coulter, why can't you debate Kyle now?
@S Cor Hilarious, thanks for pointing that out.
not to mention pretending to be against out sourcing while she outsources her own products
Good, at least she gets it.
The Purity of Chaos or Candace Owens? Is a debate between her and Kyle no longer “punching down” for Candace as Charlie Kirk suggested? It’s clearly not punching down for him to debate Kyle - so maybe Candace can stop hiding behind her popularity now 🙃
Michael ARMIJO who are you even talking about? I don’t even know who or what you’re referencing
Man, I wish I could be so confident speaking in front of people like Kyle is.
U can and all u gotta do Is just know what you’re talking about and information that’s all
You have to practice. Get a job in customer service. I got a job at a fast food restaurant and now my public speaking skills are the best they’ve ever been
It also helps when you *know* you're right :)
Tomi literally used the ‘how are you going to pay for it?!’ and ‘if those other countries are so great, why don’t you move?’ arguments against Kyle 🤦🏻♂️
And she used them BACK TO BACK. XD
The woman has turds for brains.. give her a break. Lol
Then she tried to backtrack 😂 she's afraid when she's face to face with Kyle.
I'll give her credit tho.
As least she showed up.
Candace probably ran away to another wedding again 😂
The 1st argument makes sense after the GND came onto the social democrat agenda. The 2016 bernie agenda was payable
Trump also knows what it's like to have his debt wiped out. Several times.
Tomi: “he’s not a good enough starter for the NFL”
Tomi ten minutes later: “I know nothing about football”.
Ahhh, give ‘em enough rope.
Wasn't Lauren the one who said she isn't into football?
She is a typical msm idiot, all she does is parrot what trump her god says!
Mouthpiece what team is he good enough to start for? How about the Chicago bears. His skill set fits the offense perfectly.
Wasn't it Lauren who said that though?
Mouthpiece exactly!
Seriously the guy who editet the legs to kyle's body did a great job! Give him a raise
Tim Black and Kyle Kulinski are brilliant in this. Tomi Lauren's core audience is gone and to me she is grasping for straws.
And I think Chen left... Didn't she...
Trippy Tiffy Yeah They’re brilliant the two women are awful
Tomi: I know Kaepernick isn't good enough to be a starter
Tomi minutes later: I don't care at all about football
Kaepernick sucks you would know that if you knew anything about football
@@mikew6060 You ever see a Dolphins game? Kind of thinking you're the one that knows nothing about football bro.
@@penzotoko6619 have you ever seen the San Francisco 49er game? you haven't well you know nothing about football
@@penzotoko6619 how dumb are you?
The second quote wasn't tomi, it was lauren
"How are you gonna pay for it" and "Why don't you leave then". Good, if that's what they're coming up with, then we're defininitely in good shape on the left. Geez.
"How are you gonna pay for it"
MONEY YOU DUMB BITCH WE GONNA PAY WITH MONEY. IT COSTS LESS TOO, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO NOT PAY FOR IT.
The Sparkle Zone 💀
The paying part is valid. So single payer and free college could work, though its tough. Then you add GND and then no you cant pay for it. Wait theres more. Guaranteed jobs and guaranteed housing.
@@souljaboyisbad The thing is that
A) Bernie already clarified how to pay for all this,
B) In many ways the status quo is more expensive, and
C) Every developed country has at least some of these so-called unpayable policies.
I will say that I am a bit skeptical about the federal jobs guarantee; I think Yang's dividend is probably a better idea. But medicare for all & GND are very good and important policies.
@@Phagocytosis There's also the political side of things. We most likely won't get all these things done in a single progressive presidency, but the more you advocate and fight for, the more you'll be able to get done.
It's annoying to see Tomi and the other call for objectivity when their entire premise for their arguments are based off fallacious talking points.
Exactly.
These people are nothing but parrots.
She threw the "Leave!" argument, and then "How are you going to pay for it?" … every single one of Bernie Sanders' proposals is financed. She would know already, had she done her homework.
"I can't believe we're talking about corporate media being for the people." There's the win right there.
It's remarkable how Tomi went that whole time and said literally nothing of substance. She sounded so unequipped to handle Kyle.
I feel like every establishment politician is terrified of debating Kyle cause everyone who knows him knows he’s nothing but facts and integrity
IMO, they just feel it isn't worth it. They kind of have nothing to gain and everything to lose.
Yea. They want to debate someone who might, defend Obama for example, and then they can make the whole debate about them carrying water for a Democrat. Conservatives will never have a debate where they have to defend their beliefs strictly on the merits.
TOMI DOES NOTHING BUT ATTACK THE PERSON NEVER ISSUES.
When Tomi said "hOwYoUgOnNaPaYfOrIt??????????" that was like waving a red cape in front of the bull.
Mr. Internet Man I knew it was coming, and as she said it I heard it in Kyle's snarky "Haw ya gon pay fa ut". loved it.
Exactly. Stock answer: The same way you pay for endless wars, wall st bailouts and billionaire tax cuts...
Kevin Trye we don’t pay for endless wars, bailouts, tax breaks, etc. That’s why we have such a huge national debt. We basically “paid” for everything by putting it on a credit card. 2 wrongs don’t make a right.
We don't have a small, high IQ ethnostate whose military protection is subsidized by a foreign country like Scandinavian countries have. I want Medicare For All but she is right, we actually CAN'T pay for it.
@@uhhbaseddepartment2914 except we can pay for it, and it's cheaper than the current system, as has been domonstrated by multiple studies which debunk your little excuse for why we can't accomplish great things in America
oh my god "why don't you leave"
tomi is embarrassing, why didn't she leave instead of whining about kaepernick exercising his 1st amendment rights?
“Everyone’s here for Kyle, we get it” - Tomi Lahren
When you're totally not butthurt lol
Loved it... karma
That's the closest I've been to feeling sorry for her.
@@thusspoke08 salty as fuuuuuck!
Bill Anderson Kyle doesn’t play nice and we need more of that.
“You told me to leave!”😂
America’s Son
Tim Black and Kyle in the stage together. The right stood no chance
Tomi lahren’s narrative is so condescending how can anybody stand her?
Elijah Cross most people can’t
Stupid loves stupid.
It's all boring Fox News talking points, never interesting or compelling.
no one stands her, only people with money will help her to run her mouth.
The host is SO obnoxious. "WHO HERE LOVES THIS COUNTRY GUYS?" - as he's actively interrupting a nuanced response from Kyle clarifying that very point with Tomi
Love the guy in the audience who booed at that. :D
He's strategically trying to break down the barriers being unintentionally erected by the debaters. That's a sign of a good mediator imo.
That moderator sucked so much
@@sword_of_damocle5 I guess that's what he's going for, but he's often just trying to defuse the situation and get people to agree before they get a chance to actually have their arguments heard.
@@sword_of_damocle5 you did not just use "break down the barriers" unironically here. lol
Seriously though, that's right for what a moderator should intend to do. In this particular case though, he bulldozed over nuance for a "please clap" moment (multiple times). Moderator also must read the room and most importantly - the damn stage!
Kyle isn’t getting paid to have an opinion, but Tomi sure as hell is
That was his point. It was aimed at her. Tim Black was slick, lol
Yup.
WRONG! sad Kyle Kulinski's still in the pocket of big Seltzer. Just look at what he does at 2:42. Right after slamming big donors, the shows his true BIG SELTZER COLORS! SAD!
Tomi came to this debate to prove everyone her skills at self-owning.
What's big Seltzer?
I noticed off the bat that someone finally recognizes your effort into the justice dems.
Kyle for president.
@@1969Makaveli I love Kyle, but he'd make a terrible President, HOWEVER, he would be the PERFECT political advisor to the President (Bernie Sanders), HANDS DOWN.
@@truebeliever786 Kyle out of context.
ikr? He can finally stop being salty about it lol
No kidding though, he's a legend for creating justice democrats
Issay Gebregziabher Jimmy wouldn’t want it. His passion seems to come from being an outsider calling out when either side is being corrupt or f-ed up. And if Bernie were to be President, I’d want Jimmy sitting in his garage, doing his show and holding the two parties and the Administration’s collective feet to the fire just like he is now.
It's easy to "shut it off" when you're paid to have your opinion.
"If you hate American, why don't you leave?" Much like how Tomi moved her legging business to China I assume.
Kyle is just in a different level. He is by far the best political commentator you could ever find on any media. I’m glad this guy exists.
Ziggy Stardust ditto
jshowa o
Nah
To paraphrase Kyle, “It’s not about Politics, it’s about Economics”
The major problem in this country is the concentration of wealth and power in the hands of the few.
Politics and economics are inseparable. Read Lenin's What Is To Be Done for a thorough analysis of this topic.
Trans Ben Shapiro of course economic ideology and political ideology intertwine, but too often we get distracted by the social aspects of politics (not that it isn’t important, but those issues are rooted in economic inequality in the 1st place)
Btw, your name cracks me up 🤣
I love how they always say "if you don't like it. MOVE!"
Trump's whole campaign was him saying he didn't like how the country was hence the MAGA slogan... Wtf?
Exactly. Whenever somebody says "Why don't you move" as a comeback, I know that they have lost the point and don't have a winning argument.