I just got a set of these wheels in 29. They are fantastic! Did you use an air compressor when mounting your tires? I mounted maxxis double down tires no problem. Wheels aren't the lightest but they offer significant improvements in handling through rough trails. The added rear end grip while climbing is also very noticeable.
Dangit. I was all excited about this when he offered a discount code. Competative Cyclist only has the rear wheel in stock, and they don't make mention of the fact it's a previous generation model. Look closely, and you'll find its the ZM1 hub, instead of the newer ZM2, which has been redesigned and more points of engagement.
Don't waste your money on these wheels. I fell for the hype. I liked them... until the rims cracked after 4 weeks (Easy, early season trail riding , and not an ebike) . Heavier than the alloy rims I thought I was replacing. Keep a backup wheelset! As I write this, I'm still waiting on Zipp to "assess" the wheel - 6 weeks so far.
Sorry to hear that, but we appreciate you sharing the feedback and informing others. Whether or not the wheel is a warranty or not, 6-weeks seems like a really long time to wait...we hope they find out there was some sort of manufacturing defect that caused such premature failure and take care of you!
@@kovyrshinv It took 9 weeks to finally get a replacement wheel. According to bike shop, the spokes were over tensioned. Of coarse, the season is coming to a close in CO - won’t know if they can make it more than 4 weeks until next season. Wasn’t aware Lifetime Warranty meant the time to g et a replacement for a defective wheel.😕
Always though about carbon wheels, but always end up with dt swiss aluminum. I would rather stick money into suspension and brakes. I'm more of the guy that gets expert, not s works, maybe when I win lotto.
The weak point is the freehub. It died on first year, while I am a really light and slow rider. Rebuilt it, it starts to die after the second year. Will change the freehub
What about these wheels for a big (and heavy) rider (95kg) on an full power ebike like a 2022 Specialized Turbo Levo? Are they stiff enough? or maybe too compliant? The type of riding would be enduro, nothing too extreme...
Hey Steve, you bring up a great point, and while some components really don't change when it comes to having an E rating or not, others actually do. Some prime examples are forks and hubs/freehubs and spokes/wheels. Sure a 200lb rider on an analog bike will put more strain on a bike than a 160lb rider, BUT, will that 200lb rider be riding 4 days a week and averaging 15-20 miles per ride? Probably not. From our conversations with brands it's less about strength or stiffness and more about longevity! Having forks that don't develop play, hubs that handle torque and spin for twice or triple the amount of miles is not a bad thing to us. Does an "E" handlebar or dropper post make a difference? Probably not. haha, but we'd definitely pick E rated products where it counts.
@@TheLoamWolf ahhhh thats actually super cool and im honestly impressed and relived brands are producing with that level of ethics in mind. It makes perfect sense though thank you for your explanation.
Are you going to do a vid on running the kenevo. Sl as a mullet? Would be keen to hear your thoughts on it. Only thing putting me off buying one is that it’s full 29 out the box
Lol! "We couldn't mount the most popular Minion tyre on this rim. That's a bit of a downside". I thought that's pretty much of a downside, to be honest!
Good carbon stuff is expensive. Whats not fair is some brands selling true composite crap at 1k and hey is carbon too but cheaper! Some people paid 1k for an iPhone for wassap and selfies… Its not necessary at all but good carbon wheels are noticeable, but not 2k noticeable depends on your wallet and how much you “love” to ride or how fast.
Interesting! Thank you for sharing Justin. Would be curious to know the circumstances or impacts that led to the breakage. Our testing was without issue and the many riders we've talked to, from intermediate to the likes of Braydon Bringhurst, have all been very pleased.
I have these wheel set and I love them. I didn't have problems mounting Maxxis Dissector and Recon on them.
I just got a set of these wheels in 29. They are fantastic! Did you use an air compressor when mounting your tires? I mounted maxxis double down tires no problem. Wheels aren't the lightest but they offer significant improvements in handling through rough trails. The added rear end grip while climbing is also very noticeable.
6:02 ZM2 hub sound
Dangit. I was all excited about this when he offered a discount code. Competative Cyclist only has the rear wheel in stock, and they don't make mention of the fact it's a previous generation model. Look closely, and you'll find its the ZM1 hub, instead of the newer ZM2, which has been redesigned and more points of engagement.
Don't waste your money on these wheels. I fell for the hype. I liked them... until the rims cracked after 4 weeks (Easy, early season trail riding , and not an ebike) . Heavier than the alloy rims I thought I was replacing. Keep a backup wheelset! As I write this, I'm still waiting on Zipp to "assess" the wheel - 6 weeks so far.
Sorry to hear that, but we appreciate you sharing the feedback and informing others. Whether or not the wheel is a warranty or not, 6-weeks seems like a really long time to wait...we hope they find out there was some sort of manufacturing defect that caused such premature failure and take care of you!
Any update on the process?
@@kovyrshinv It took 9 weeks to finally get a replacement wheel. According to bike shop, the spokes were over tensioned. Of coarse, the season is coming to a close in CO - won’t know if they can make it more than 4 weeks until next season. Wasn’t aware Lifetime Warranty meant the time to g et a replacement for a defective wheel.😕
@@rickthiel still have em?
2nd season started with a bad freehub . This time the turnover time was much smoother. So...Yes I still have them - along with replacement wheels ;)
These are perfect for a hardtail
What about running insert? Think cushcore would work on these?
Why wouldn’t it
Have you used these with Cushcore?
Always though about carbon wheels, but always end up with dt swiss aluminum. I would rather stick money into suspension and brakes. I'm more of the guy that gets expert, not s works, maybe when I win lotto.
Not a bad way to go at all!
The weak point is the freehub. It died on first year, while I am a really light and slow rider. Rebuilt it, it starts to die after the second year.
Will change the freehub
Do you have new ZM2 hubs or old ZM1?
Can warrantee cover second owner
What about these wheels for a big (and heavy) rider (95kg) on an full power ebike like a 2022 Specialized Turbo Levo? Are they stiff enough? or maybe too compliant? The type of riding would be enduro, nothing too extreme...
I dont get why something is e bike rated. People swear that another 30 lbs is major. The average 5 riders will vary in weight like 50 lbs!
Hey Steve, you bring up a great point, and while some components really don't change when it comes to having an E rating or not, others actually do. Some prime examples are forks and hubs/freehubs and spokes/wheels. Sure a 200lb rider on an analog bike will put more strain on a bike than a 160lb rider, BUT, will that 200lb rider be riding 4 days a week and averaging 15-20 miles per ride? Probably not.
From our conversations with brands it's less about strength or stiffness and more about longevity! Having forks that don't develop play, hubs that handle torque and spin for twice or triple the amount of miles is not a bad thing to us. Does an "E" handlebar or dropper post make a difference? Probably not. haha, but we'd definitely pick E rated products where it counts.
@@TheLoamWolf ahhhh thats actually super cool and im honestly impressed and relived brands are producing with that level of ethics in mind. It makes perfect sense though thank you for your explanation.
How about the performance with cush core pro for example? Does it take away the benefits of this wheel?
Also seeking an answer to this.
Did you run your psi different with these wheel set than you would normally?
Are you going to do a vid on running the kenevo. Sl as a mullet? Would be keen to hear your thoughts on it. Only thing putting me off buying one is that it’s full 29 out the box
I suppose now that you've asked us we need to! We put them on just for our own testing and curiosity, but we think it'll be worth doing for sure.
What are your thoughts about a wheel set like this with a box one stealth hubs?
Lol! "We couldn't mount the most popular Minion tyre on this rim. That's a bit of a downside". I thought that's pretty much of a downside, to be honest!
Think I could ride these in rough downhill terrain? I was thinking of purchasing these or the we are one strife.
Yeah we think so. Braydon Bringhurst, Canyon rider, is regularly going huge on his wheels and loves them.
Alrighty folks, this set is $1999. Off to the next video! 🙈
My low end bike costs as much as those tyres!
@@pavanpatil8907 Yeah we reviewed 5 bikes last year in our Sub 2k Roundup that all cost as much... and rode great.
Good carbon stuff is expensive. Whats not fair is some brands selling true composite crap at 1k and hey is carbon too but cheaper!
Some people paid 1k for an iPhone for wassap and selfies… Its not necessary at all but good carbon wheels are noticeable, but not 2k noticeable depends on your wallet and how much you “love” to ride or how fast.
Since I know 2 people that own a set and both have broken a wheel. I’ll pass.
Interesting! Thank you for sharing Justin. Would be curious to know the circumstances or impacts that led to the breakage. Our testing was without issue and the many riders we've talked to, from intermediate to the likes of Braydon Bringhurst, have all been very pleased.
Lifetime warranty 🙄
Yeah, that's pretty dang odd.
@@musicjnky1982 doesn't help you when on a bike trip or in the middle of a ride lol