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First channel I see focusing on electronic music from the perspective of harmony and atonal music. As difficult as it is to make people understand what tonal and modal harmony is, atonal music can be in another perspective.
Great advice, thank you. Just I don't understand why you call the second note up on the octave the minor second. Isn't the minor 2nd a whole step up? And if it is a whole step it is a major 2nd too. One of the ones to avoid? I was a bit confused on that bit.
Thank you! It starts about 8.36. The first of the dissonant intervals. 2nd note up in the octave that you call the minor 2nd. That is where I thought a minor second would be the note above that. But I'm no music theory expert. Then I got confused when you went to the example where you said minor seconds were dissonant notes and they were a whole step up. Thanks again. Appreciate it
If Im being honest I have to disagree with you a little bit. The 4th and 5th are technically the most consonant intervals, but really they're so consonant they end up sounding more nuetral, especially the 5th. There's a reason you're supposed to avoid parallel 5ths when writing counterpoint and thats because it will cause the two voices to blend together and sound more like a single voice. Imo 4ths and 5ths are really useful whether you're trying to write consonant music or dissonant music. They bacically serve as placeholders for the 1 and they can help to add movement to your line by adding small resolutions without fully resolving back to the 1.
That is all fully true, and there's no doubt about the usability of the 4th and 5th! But approaching it from the standpoint of atonal sequences, as found in techno, with no strong tonal centre, the 4th and the 5th are meant as interval relations between two notes, wherever positioned and not as scale degrees! But sure, what you mentioned is true, yet more helpful when writing counterpoint or harmonically complex structures!
@@SINEEGlobal Apologies, I guess I didnt explain myself super well. I think even when trying to write dissonant music the 4th and 5th are still important intervals, they can help to reinforce the other intervals and make things feel more grounded, and I think its important to have a little bit of groundedness even in music that's meant to sound atonal otherwise you lose the feeling of intentionality that you meantion at the beggining of the video. That doesnt mean they have to be used in the context of a scale. I think my counterpoint example might've been a little misleading I only brought that up to demonstrate the idea that the 5th is a neutral sounding interval.
little correction: the octave is technically "the same frequency but double the speed" but that _is_ actually just double the frequency^^ also, maybe use a keyboard to press the notes, the mouse clicking is very distracting. thanks!
would love to see this info incorporated into some examples. Like having a track with some synth lines and chords as examples
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Another great video! Keep them coming :) !
Great video, finally made a a couple of things click fron me, in terms of music theory. Thank you
First channel I see focusing on electronic music from the perspective of harmony and atonal music. As difficult as it is to make people understand what tonal and modal harmony is, atonal music can be in another perspective.
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Great advice, thank you. Just I don't understand why you call the second note up on the octave the minor second. Isn't the minor 2nd a whole step up? And if it is a whole step it is a major 2nd too. One of the ones to avoid? I was a bit confused on that bit.
Hey, do you have a timestamp for that? I'd be happy to elaborate! 😊
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Thank you! It starts about 8.36. The first of the dissonant intervals. 2nd note up in the octave that you call the minor 2nd. That is where I thought a minor second would be the note above that. But I'm no music theory expert. Then I got confused when you went to the example where you said minor seconds were dissonant notes and they were a whole step up.
Thanks again. Appreciate it
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If Im being honest I have to disagree with you a little bit. The 4th and 5th are technically the most consonant intervals, but really they're so consonant they end up sounding more nuetral, especially the 5th. There's a reason you're supposed to avoid parallel 5ths when writing counterpoint and thats because it will cause the two voices to blend together and sound more like a single voice. Imo 4ths and 5ths are really useful whether you're trying to write consonant music or dissonant music. They bacically serve as placeholders for the 1 and they can help to add movement to your line by adding small resolutions without fully resolving back to the 1.
That is all fully true, and there's no doubt about the usability of the 4th and 5th! But approaching it from the standpoint of atonal sequences, as found in techno, with no strong tonal centre, the 4th and the 5th are meant as interval relations between two notes, wherever positioned and not as scale degrees! But sure, what you mentioned is true, yet more helpful when writing counterpoint or harmonically complex structures!
that's why context is so important.. thank you both for your evaluations
@@SINEEGlobal Apologies, I guess I didnt explain myself super well. I think even when trying to write dissonant music the 4th and 5th are still important intervals, they can help to reinforce the other intervals and make things feel more grounded, and I think its important to have a little bit of groundedness even in music that's meant to sound atonal otherwise you lose the feeling of intentionality that you meantion at the beggining of the video. That doesnt mean they have to be used in the context of a scale. I think my counterpoint example might've been a little misleading I only brought that up to demonstrate the idea that the 5th is a neutral sounding interval.
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little correction: the octave is technically "the same frequency but double the speed" but that _is_ actually just double the frequency^^
also, maybe use a keyboard to press the notes, the mouse clicking is very distracting. thanks!