Top Loader Telecaster History & Comparison with String-Thru - AZ 187

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    We kick the episode off with a direct comparison using my 2023 Danocaster guitar which is equipped with a bridge that handles both top loading and string thru. We then take a look at the history of Fender's top loader Telecasters, and the possible reasons for changing the construction of them during that era. To reveal Fender's pattern, we analyze the models that featured toploading bridges beforehand, the Musicmaster, Duo Sonic, and the revamped 1957 Precision Bass.
    Gear used:
    2023 Danocaster Single-Cut with Budz 58 pickups. 6.4 pound, ash body, .91 maple V neck.
    Strings:
    D'Addario NYXL 95-44
    amzn.to/41rnl0V
    Pick:
    Pick Boy Small Jazz, Tortoise Shell, 1.00mm
    Effects: Amp reverb
    2023 Headstrong Lil King amp with a 12" Alessandro 64 Speaker
    #askzac #danocaster #toploader

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  • @charliehshaw
    @charliehshaw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Jeff Buckley was another great top loader player

  • @angusorvid8840
    @angusorvid8840 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    One of my favorite bridges is the G&L top loading saddle lock bridge. It's terrific.

  • @mairenared
    @mairenared 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Jimmy Page's famous Telecaster is a toploader. He played it in the Yardbirds and on Led Zepellin's first album. It originally had mirror disks on the top but he later stripped the whole guitar and had a dragon painted on the top. Presumably this was the guitar he used for the solo on "Stairway To Heaven".

  • @thevagabond8978
    @thevagabond8978 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You can always drill the top loader holes yourself. Just don’t drill a serial number bridge from the 50s 😮

  • @ZacCostilla
    @ZacCostilla 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    My custom ZacCaster is capable to do both string through and top loading. I had a machine shop drill the holes to convert my bridge. The guy was so intrigued, he drilled the holes for free while I waited, and then said he was gonna do that with his Squire. I love the top load feel, but next string change I’m gonna go string through on the wound strings, and top loaded on the plains.

    • @AskZac
      @AskZac  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's a great idea!

    • @kortgreen7725
      @kortgreen7725 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ima try Dat too!

  • @davemassie3726
    @davemassie3726 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    How timely Zac. I'm 69 and retired 2 years ago and was playing my Tele about 25- 30 hour's a week at gigs & friend jams. About 4 months ago I started having wrist, hand , tendon pain. I've been freaking out what to do. I live to play guitar and finally have the time! I saw the Dano vid showing the top loader bridge. I love Jim Campilongo's playing & Tone so I'm getting a top loader bridge, set of XL 9's and hope to God this saves me!! I'll turn up the bass if sound's to thin. Thank you for this video Doctor Zac!

    • @7171jay
      @7171jay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Hi Dave, if you didn't know Warmoth makes a conversion neck for Tele that is 24.75" rather than the normal Tele 25.5". No need to do anything but bolt it on and do a setup. This shorter (Gibson) scale is not only lower tension but the is easier to play as there is less reach from one fret to the next making chording easier. A bit more expensive than just replacing the bridge and going top loading but you would get more effect with the conversion neck.

    • @davemassie3726
      @davemassie3726 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      HI Jay. Thank you so much for this info. I will try this out for sure! A friend has a Anderson Tele called a shorty, maybe its that scale length. Appreciate the help Jay! Rock on!@@7171jay

    • @7171jay
      @7171jay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@davemassie3726 I don't have a guitar with the conversion neck but if you have played a 24.75 scale guitar like a Gibson you know it has quite a different feel than a Tele due to the shorter scale length so I thought maybe it could be something you might want to pursue. I would imagine the conversion neck may make a Tele a bit warmer and a bit less snappy sounding but if it was more playable that might be a reasonable tradeoff.

    • @pitbul8183
      @pitbul8183 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You might want to try a joint supplement with MSM ,Glucosamine, Chondroitin etc

    • @EbenezerSeattle
      @EbenezerSeattle 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you haven't already, I'd recommend physical therapy. It's allowed me to keep playing after significantly increasing my playing time with the unwanted effect of arm pain.

  • @davidmahoney1248
    @davidmahoney1248 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Both J Mascis, and the late Jeff Buckley used top loading Telecasters extensively.

  • @Crunch0123
    @Crunch0123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whoa. You dont hear a huge difference? I do. And imediately after you played, I knew first riff is mine, and it was top loader. It is just much more sustainy (which is weird), has more ambiental feeling, much clearer and not so bright. Far better than string through (and that one was not bad).

  • @picksalot1
    @picksalot1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    A critical factor regarding string tension is the "String Length" from the Tail Block (or wherever the ends of the strings are fastened) to the Tuners (the other end where the strings are fastened). This is different from the "Scale Length," which is the length from the Saddles to the Nut. The other factors regarding string tension are "string gauge" and "string pitch." Since string gauge and string pitch are usually the same in this type of comparison, "string length" accounts for most of the difference in feel and tone.
    A Telecaster body is about 1.5 to 1.75 inches. In a string through configuration, that add those lengths to the overall "Sting Length," whereas the "Scale length" remains the same. A longer string length requires a higher overall tension to raise the string up to the same pitch, when using the same gauge strings. This is why on Harps and Grand Pianos, the strings are of different lengths, longest for the Bass strings, and shortest for the treble strings.
    Reverse Headstocks, where the longest length is on the 6th string, and the shortest length is on the 1st string, utilize this physics to help produces better tone results and feel from the strings. With such a configuration, the Basses feel snappier, and more resonant, and the trebles feel more slinky and easier to bend without losing tone. I recently saw a Tele were the basses were strung through the body and the trebles were top loaded. Pretty clever way to get the best of both worlds. "Break Angle" contributes more to tone than feel.

    • @willemmouw6852
      @willemmouw6852 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The length of the non vibrating portion of the string should more affect the overall tension.

    • @martinfeldman7340
      @martinfeldman7340 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's the cleverest sh...t I've heard of. Thank u strangerrrrrr

    • @me-xv6tf
      @me-xv6tf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And just as i was wondering about this exact issue, i found your comment. Thank you for your thoroughness 👍

    • @picksalot1
      @picksalot1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@me-xv6tf Here is a simple test I came up with to determine how much "string length" affects string tension explained using a typical Strat-type guitar.
      Since the 6th string has the shortest string length, replace it with the same gauge as your 1st string (an old one should work if it's long enough). Tune it to the same pitch as the high E string. Do some bends on each string with the guitar sitting on your lap. Rotate the guitar around so all bends are done towards the middle of the fretboard. Do you notice a difference?
      The only significant difference in this test is the total length of the string from the Ball End to the Tuner. Just make sure you're not using a locking bridge/tremolo and a locking nut.

  • @rprieto1971
    @rprieto1971 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    String through waaay more weighty. Much better ‘full’ sound imo

  • @thesolarengineer
    @thesolarengineer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You could have gotten a TL easily via the Jimmy Page MIM and US teles.
    I'm a top by load fella and for all the reasons you called out! ❤🎉

  • @leamanc
    @leamanc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve never played a top loader Tele but I figure mounting strings in two inches of wood has to give you more resonance, right?

  • @stewarttomkinson3356
    @stewarttomkinson3356 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought an $89 guitar four years ago that’s top loaded tally change the pick ups to tuners the bridge and it sounds better than my fender and it’s cheap ass Guitar

  • @jimpitman9195
    @jimpitman9195 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nice work Zac. Thanks. May I put this additional theory out about the change in playability? The strings on a top loader are all ~ 1.5" shorter than those on a string through setup. It will take less tension to bring a shorter string up to the same pitch. Just a thought.

    • @WillyPDX94
      @WillyPDX94 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting thought. I doubt anyone can actually hear a difference but in terms of the physics involved I think you're absolutely right.

    • @lazvt8469
      @lazvt8469 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      use both methods...still can't really appreciate one over the other... same with LPs and top / wrap loading...I can't tell difference...

  • @davidmurphy4844
    @davidmurphy4844 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I bought a cheap SX Telecaster copy five years ago that was a toploader. The bridge had holes for through stringing but no ferrules or holes in the body. I got my local luthier Ritchie Tomson in Wigan to add the body holes and ferrules and it plays great. Nice to have the option to string it both ways.

    • @markleyva3108
      @markleyva3108 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My SX tele copy is the bomb! It has a very flat radius, so it doesn't feel like a tele. But it very much sounds like one. Had to smooth out the fret ends, do a bit nut work and I upgraded the saddles and pups. For like $250 it's a gorgeous (translucent, dark blue) swamp ash riff stick.

    • @PaisleyPatchouli
      @PaisleyPatchouli 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes, some of the SX gear is really quite good. I had an SX 30" fretless Jaguar P/J bass that was as good as any Fender...
      I wonder, have you tried combining string-thru with top-loading at all on your Tele? If so, what were you going for, and did you get there??

    • @davidmurphy4844
      @davidmurphy4844 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PaisleyPatchouli hi I've tried it in both configurations and the string tension is looser when top loaded so string bending is easier.

  • @philandcatherinemuzio9476
    @philandcatherinemuzio9476 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Glendale offers bridge plates that offer both methods. Best I’ve ever used. I have 3 Teles with them. I prefer top loading because of the string feel. In my comparisons, the sound difference is outweighed by the feel. Interesting that some players I know use top loading for the top 4 strings and string through body for the bottom 2 strings.

    • @thecappy
      @thecappy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fender’s new pro ii has top loading bridge too.

  • @Youtubemademeaddahandle
    @Youtubemademeaddahandle 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The top loaded clips sounded more sonorous and less punchy. That means there is more dynamic range available to the lighter pickers. I am sold on playing as lightly as a note can fully bloom. I believe I also heard more sustain with top loading - non necessarily longevity but length of the sonorous blooming section of note generation. I've adjusted all my fixed bridge's tail piece to lessen break angle. This has improved both feel and dynamic control. The term stiffness is related to string tension in that the string mass mobility is lessened more near where the string is diverted. I can feel it in the picking zones. I alternated between all fingers, fingers and pick and all pick - depending on the style I'm playing. Top loading, or any other way of reducing string tension near a picking zone provides the player increase in dynamic control. I believe in allowing the player the control necessary to express their artistry. I want to "dance" with the instrument no "fight" it.

  • @JeffSeale
    @JeffSeale 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The new Page Mirror tele is made for both string through and top loading. Cool to be able to do both.

  • @PaisleyPatchouli
    @PaisleyPatchouli 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wonder if anyone has experimented with combining/mixing both top and string-thru loading to achieve different tension effects on those affected strings; for example using string-thru on a Tele’s three trebles specifically for use when slide playing, so that the string-thru stiffness on those strings would give more resistance on the trebles to achieve better sustain off the slide; whereas the top-loaded bass strings would be slightly looser, maybe producing more expressive snapping techniques, or perhaps bends/vibrato?
    Of course, judicious adjusting of string gauges would also produce a whole different palette of responses/results to those strings. Anyway, just a thought… I think one could really fall down an interesting rabbit hole comparing different combinations for use with alt tunings, slide, tapping, pinched harmonics, etc…

  • @howardskinner4916
    @howardskinner4916 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Re: break over angle - years ago, I noticed that a Gibson Les Paul became easier to bend strings on when the stop tailpiece was raised, thus decreasing the breakover angle. Keep up the good work, Zac!

  • @chippsterstephens6800
    @chippsterstephens6800 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just got sets of 9.5 strings last night.
    Yet another great recommendation from Zac!
    9s feel way too slinky, all my bends get thrown off, and back to 10s.
    9.5 so far feels just right. Bends work much like 10s.
    My old hand sure likes the results!

  • @KRAZEEIZATION
    @KRAZEEIZATION 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t like a top loading only tele. It looks like it’s unfinished. My first tele was a MIM top loader only from 1994 and I sold it because of that. I it also had 6 barrel saddles, terrible.
    I then bought a real tele, plus many more since!
    The J. Mascis signature is a top loader.

  • @jfinester
    @jfinester 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I really enjoyed this episode. My old ‘59 Tele had a top-loader bridge, but was also drilled for through-body stringing. When I got it in maybe 1974, it had rusted threaded steel saddles, which I replaced with early ‘50s-style brass ones. I was playing six nights a week at that time, and since coated strings weren’t available in those days, I was changing strings about every three playing days. .011”-.054” too, and it was easier to string the guitar through the back rather than top-loading them. I don’t think I ever experimented with top-loading the entire time I owned that guitar-I liked the feel and tone with strings-through, even with the .011”-gauge strings and worn-out frets. Being a lefty playing righty, I’ve always had a strong left hand anyway. I’ve always figured that guitar was an early ‘59-it had the top-loader/string-through bridge and a maple neck with the ‘59 date stamp. Black pickguard too-I don’t know how that happened, unless it was replaced at some point; it was an old pickguard with the wear spot on the front and the paint-can circle on the underside. I never found a body date on it either-1959 was close enough!

  • @charlesrochefort3008
    @charlesrochefort3008 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I believe Jim Campilongo uses '9's' gauge on his top loader which makes the strings feel like rubber bands (I know, I've tried it!) so he must have a helluva light touch on the fingerboard. Top loading suits his playing style and what a great player. Also, you can 'up' your string gauge when top loading to give a similar feel of stiffness as 'string through' of a lighter set yet obtaining (dare I say) a stronger tone due to the extra mass of the strings. Lastly, if you have a dual drilled bridge, try string throughing the bottom wound strings and top loading the top plain ones. Then you still get the tele 'twang' but can do some serious and pleasing bending on the unwound strings. 😀

  • @NoNameNo.5
    @NoNameNo.5 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good enough for Jimmy Page....also, recently purchased a Harley Benton T style and was pleased to see the bridge had the ability to top load as well as string thru. Awesome work Zac

  • @TerminusVox
    @TerminusVox 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    On the next A-B comparison video I'd like to request a change in shirt color at the time of the string change, lol! That way I could think red shirt Zac is playing top loaded and blue shirt Zac is playing body though. The difference in sound may be too subtle for my out-of-practice (and old) ears.

  • @chrisyes1629
    @chrisyes1629 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hmmmm. Interesting analogy. Spot on in regards to volume. I love the telecaster but hate the string through body setup. I am not a country player which explains alot here. I play Pop rock guitar which involves alot of broken chords. I have an 83 tele which is the famous toploader which is not so desirable because there's less tone. How did I compensate? Simple. I use 10 to 52 gauge strings and changed the pickup to a hotrail. The resulting sound is inbetween a Les Paul and a tele. No feedback and a soft rock sound. Another thing is the toploader holds its tune better. I'm pretty aggressive in my strumming and when stretching those strings in bends it stays in tune. Just thought I'd share. Cheers from downunder.

  • @ryanmct1892
    @ryanmct1892 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So interesting listening to the sound clips. I actually thought the top loader sounds were brighter and the string through had more warmth; particularly in the neck pick-up riff you played.

  • @anodyneforever3996
    @anodyneforever3996 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The string thru sounded louder I think.

    • @lazvt8469
      @lazvt8469 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep.....finally a vid that gave me clarity!! String thru sounded better to me. I use 9's so I can handle the extra tension of string thru.

  • @fisheatingjoe
    @fisheatingjoe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As someone with small hands, I prefer to top load my telecaster for the slinky feeling. Also, it's cool to see someone else that uses 9.5-44 string gauge, for me its the best feeling for the fender scale length.

  • @sirbaronvoncount4147
    @sirbaronvoncount4147 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love me a top loader tele with 3 brass saddles. Classic

  • @sauce_aux
    @sauce_aux 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m really enjoying the tele obsession💚

  • @BlackMarketYoga
    @BlackMarketYoga 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have both but, love my MIM top loader. It's my cheapest guitar and has been a go to for many gigs. The one thing I really do NOT like is having to put tape over the string winds so it does not cut my hand. Other than that it rules. THX

    • @markcress7484
      @markcress7484 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Have you tried heat shrink tubing instead of tape?? I know guys that use this method.

    • @BlackMarketYoga
      @BlackMarketYoga 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i have not. I will give it a shot THX!@@markcress7484

  • @amslu
    @amslu 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please do an episode on Bigsby Telecasters. What’s the origin story? Did Bigsby and Fender work together? What’s the deal with 3-saddles vs Jazzmaster Bigsby bridges?
    Also, Bigsby gets a bad wrap for tuning stability because of the cheap Chinese knockoffs, while on properly set up steel cast Bigsby with the straight string pull it is one of the most stable (but subtle) vibratos out there… Is the Bigsby Tele the best-kept secret?

  • @Fatherflot64
    @Fatherflot64 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jay Leonard J is another advocate of the Bigsby tele.

  • @starshineraiser6729
    @starshineraiser6729 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 6.5 lb 59 Telecaster, Jimmy Page model. I just can’t get the top loading style to sound or feel good. Every time I try it, I’m just longing for that ferocious ringing out jangly sound. Top loader dials everything down. I hope to gel with it at some point.

  • @danielrose3172
    @danielrose3172 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I knew the second was string through... There is a rounder, subtle wood sound. But you verified what i suspected... Ill keep em through the wood! Thanks.

  • @RobinBassett
    @RobinBassett 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not of our normal artist roster but Freddie Mercury used an 83 top loader at Live Aid!

  • @MrBritrider
    @MrBritrider หลายเดือนก่อน

    My non Fender bridge plate is designed for top or string through. The holes drilled for top
    loading are drilled low providing a good break angle. The stiffness to me is very enjoyable similar but not exactly like a wrap around bridge on a Les Paul type guitar.

  • @sithbk0075
    @sithbk0075 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m new to telecaster type of guitar. I bought a Squier 40th anniversary tele last December. Now I’m in the process of modding it with a ‘51 nocaster pickup, Gotoh locking tuner and a Gotoh gold bridge. To my surprise not all hardware are on the same spec. The Squier original bridge mounting screw hole/ (61mm), string through hole (42mm). My luthier said the Gotoh bridge doesn’t match. So my search for the right match to the Squier bridge was a fail. Neither Fender’s own bridge won’t fit and that goes for most of the aftermarket parts as well.
    Anyone know where I can get a gold bridge that fits a Squier 49th anniversary tele?

  • @APMTenants
    @APMTenants 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jeff Buckley played a 1983 top loader that was given to him after his guitars were stollen.
    Does anyone know what his main guitar was before it was stolen?
    Jimmy Page came back from tour to find out his “friend” had repainted his top loader as a “favor.” He was not happy about it and the guitar was parted out and lost to time.
    I could hear a noticeable improvement in sound every time you went to the string through. A bit fuller in the mids.

  • @charliewesley94
    @charliewesley94 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never thought about it before - but both my Gibson SG's and 335 are top loading, as well as my Novo Serus J. My tele is top-loading as well, by sheer coincidence. Or was it? It certainly "feels" close to the rest of the guitars in my collection...

  • @montygibbon1905
    @montygibbon1905 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Questionable relevance ~ but maybe a timely reminder of other factors at play when assessing gear; watching/listening on my LG tv set, the difference is enormous.
    Through body = thin. Top loader = way more mids.
    The difference is more akin to that I'd expect to hear in a pickup comparison.
    I'll revisit this once I get a chance to listen through sone decent headphones and/or speakers.

  • @kevinswedlow5546
    @kevinswedlow5546 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Maybe next, you can discuss the differences of body mounted vs pickguard mounted neck pickups.

    • @AskZac
      @AskZac  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      great topic!

    • @andoros.7017
      @andoros.7017 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AskZac I'd certainly be interested in that potential future video since ive been on the fence for a while about body mounting my neck pickup in my 2013 special edition deluxe. my only apprehension is due to the inability to easily adjust the height, but I've been wanting to since thats how they came in the 50s-60s and am curious if its purely for aesthetics or if it will affect the tone.

  • @mototakahe836
    @mototakahe836 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I also found the string through "snappier" and that the strings sounded " tauter/stiffer". I am now looking for top load bridge as I prefer the tonality of the top load. I have two excellent, quality price guitars by Fazley T type guitars, the Coyote, ( it really is not a dog!) both with the same string through bridges. On one the strings feel taut on the other the strings feel slacker, easier to fret, so I understand perfectly your comments. However I do not understand why my two, which are exactly the same in every area, are so different in this respect. Any opinions gratefully received. Learner at 77 years old.

  • @gimmeagig
    @gimmeagig 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was hoping it would be top loading for me because that's what I have. But it wasn't. String through sounds better to me.. But the difference is very small.

  • @geridoo
    @geridoo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it depends on the saddles too. with the modern 6-piece saddles (with the not-too-easy-to-push-thru-the-strings holes) the strings have even less acute angle than on a traditional 3-piece type

  • @carlhardwickofficial
    @carlhardwickofficial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I converted my Tele to a top loading plate a few years ago. It's doubtful I'll go back. The tension is less and the strings are a little more slinky. Any change in tone is negligible. Lets me stay with .010 gauge strings.

  • @jeffcooper3433
    @jeffcooper3433 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you ever demo and reviewed a Memphis telecaster? I've got half dozen and love then. I'd like to hear your opinion.

  • @Yoda8945
    @Yoda8945 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was a Fender dealer when the "Standard" series came out. Fender sent each dealer a complete set of the instruments (not requested by the dealer). The entire series was pretty bad. There were burn marks on the P Bass neck, and a bunch of defects on the others. The worst was the Stratocaster, which could not be tuned unless the vibrato system was locked back. The geometry of the vibrato had been changed and the springs could not be adjusted for proper operation regardless of what gauge strings were used. These were a top loaded system which saved time and money as far as routing and setup of the instrument was concerned. Total garbage!

  • @truckercowboyed2638
    @truckercowboyed2638 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The American professional 2 tele line is capable of both top loading and string through the body ....

  • @KenTeel
    @KenTeel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I disagree. The top loader shouded like it had more treble. The string through shounded "thicker" meaning more bass content. When playing the thrid lick, the bass stings rang out more with the added treble that the top loader had. Thanks for the video. It is interesting. I think that the "strings floating" is your imagination. You know that they are not going through the body, so you have a bias that gives you an image of less "substantial-ness" and that's what plays into your imagination. It is any wonder that a guy who plays a traditional music, on a traditional guitar, would like that "traditional method of string through" ?

  • @etburkentine455
    @etburkentine455 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jeff Buckley used an 83’ JV top loader. He might not first come to mind but that man could play his ass off.

  • @pmay222
    @pmay222 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the difference in sound was minimal..you are never noticing that in a live venue.. that is one of the most 'tele' sounding telecasters ive heard on you tube... and like others have mentioned id be tempted to topload 1,2,3 ... and string through 4,5,6 no doubt its been tried years ago.. all part of the fun

  • @felixpagan4682
    @felixpagan4682 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    83 and 84 fender tele and strat ELITE both toploders .not the recent fender elite series though totaly different.check it out.

  • @briannacery9939
    @briannacery9939 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I play a top loader Telecaster currently but I'm thinking of making it into a through the body.

  • @tconnor07
    @tconnor07 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The current American Pro IIs from Fender allow both top loading and string thru

  • @brianrorex8337
    @brianrorex8337 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m not sure if it’s been mentioned but Jeff Buckley’s Tele was an 80s top loader.

  • @hayfielddraw4364
    @hayfielddraw4364 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My best Tele is a 1985, MIJ, '58 reissue top-loader. It's also a featherweight, just over 6 pounds, and has a great, thin nitro finish. I've worn it so much, most people think it's a vintage 1958. I also have an MIJ 1986 '54 reissue Esquire. Those Fuji Gen guys in the 1980s knew how to make some of the best guitars to ever have the Fender name.

    • @EnJoony
      @EnJoony 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @hayfielddraw4364 Interestingly enough, some of the first Fender Japan guitars were made by Tokai. I have a relationship with Tokai guitars going back to '81 and I also have an 80s Fender catalog where they mistakenly show a guitar in the background with the Tokai logo. 😅

    • @thebruckners
      @thebruckners หลายเดือนก่อน

      My first guitar (which I still have) is a '86-87 MIJ Tele (serial number Fxxxxxx). I love it and it was made with amazing quality. Plays like a dream and is a toploader which makes string bending so effortless.

  • @derekclemons
    @derekclemons 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I think top loader I think Jeff Buckley. So much talent.

  • @tomwillaert3363
    @tomwillaert3363 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I play without a bridge...does that makes me a free-loader?

  • @chinaski2020
    @chinaski2020 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My only electric guitar is a mid-80s Japanese Squier top loading Tele.

  • @tomk1tl39
    @tomk1tl39 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thru loading sounded a little "fatter" by a "pinch" . . . but both sets sound good . . .

  • @donanders2110
    @donanders2110 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the difference is bigger when you played closer to the bridge

  • @ItsaCatsLife
    @ItsaCatsLife 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My EKO VT (Tele) has both options as does my Artist (Australian brand) TC59. I choose to load through the top.

  • @alanhenley4029
    @alanhenley4029 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a difference, almost like it’s more Gibsony as crazy as that sounds.

  • @jnorthrop70
    @jnorthrop70 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer thru-body and would be surprised to find a top loader I liked…hasn’t happened yet.

  • @stewarttomkinson3356
    @stewarttomkinson3356 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I also tracked down the company that makes fender pick ups and got a pair cheaper than from Amazon or any one Alnico 5

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol ok

  • @MrJesterfx
    @MrJesterfx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also about stiffness. Same thing with retainers on the headstock. I felt E&B wss too stiff on my JI tele. Then I set retainers a bit higher, and it makes difference in feel and bending experience.

  • @xdoctorblindx
    @xdoctorblindx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jeff Buckley is criminal omission here for toploader tele players.

  • @snow-so3qn
    @snow-so3qn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1. Thank you for acknowledging the new strings, people do pickup swaps and say it’s a massive difference but they went from 3 month old strings to new ones. And 2. My guess would be that the break angle is changing the sound because of the difference in string tension, sort of like how paying down tuned instruments without upping the string gauge. Since the break angle is different the string may oscillate in a different point over the pickup which would make a subtle difference in sound. That’s my theory at least, the feel part is the most important part.

    • @sirbaronvoncount4147
      @sirbaronvoncount4147 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would less tension not affect the tuning? A certain tension is what produces notes. Honest question no hate.
      Peace

    • @markpassell8379
      @markpassell8379 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The equation describing string oscillation includes the length of the string , density (diameters are different for various materials) as well as the tension. String through has a longer overall length even if the bridge to nut distance is the same.

  • @vracan
    @vracan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some new Fenders like my goldfoil tele already come with the bridgle able to do both - dont know why fender dont mention that detail on thier site

  • @OldManStoli
    @OldManStoli 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I first heard it, the difference in tone seemed really clear to me; the string through just had a little extra weight to it that immediately made me feel like, “Yes, that’s what a Tele is supposed to sound like!” But when I listen to them again, it’s clear that it’s actually quite close, and the real difference is subtle, but it’s subtle in an important way.

  • @Heavenreck
    @Heavenreck 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I prefer string through. I have a Tele bridge that does both and I although I enjoyed the slightly slinkier feel of the top loader I went back to through body. I also loved the attack and sound of string through. Great video as usual. Interesting fact I wasn't aware of was the cost saving angle 😂

  • @jeffsquires6620
    @jeffsquires6620 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good morning Zac, would it be possible to do a comparison between hardtail and tremolo arm strats.

    • @imannonymous7707
      @imannonymous7707 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd like to hear zaks take on it, I been hardtail curious for awhile...and I'm not even a strat guy

    • @AskZac
      @AskZac  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. Coming. Can't do it with the same guitar like this video though

    • @jeffsquires6620
      @jeffsquires6620 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AskZac Cool, I've seen Bonamassa talk about them and how the hardtails are different. Another opinion would be appreciated.

    • @davesmith1672
      @davesmith1672 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Owning both Strats, I can say generally that hard tail Strats have a snappier attack and are fuller sounding, but you lose the comb filter effect of the tremolo’s routing and hardware that makes part of the sound we consider “Stratty”. Not better or worse, but somewhat different. Different enough that I own both and consider them different instruments for different purposes. I once had a black ‘59 hard tail in stock condition that weighed 6.75 pounds and sounded like a cannon! It wouldn’t have been my first choice for a part requiring a classic Strat sound, but was like Godzilla on a blues gig!

    • @jeffsquires6620
      @jeffsquires6620 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davesmith1672 both of my strats have tremolo arms, thanks for the input.

  • @freddymclain
    @freddymclain 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OMG, there's such a thing as a 'toploader Telecaster?' I

  • @dcamnc1
    @dcamnc1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have 2 teles, one with top and one through body. I like both, doesn't matter to me.

  • @javiersaravalli181
    @javiersaravalli181 หลายเดือนก่อน

    J Mascis signature Telecaster it has a top loader bridge.

  • @dlux703
    @dlux703 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have 2 Telecasters that came with individual saddles which I found too fussy, although they had very thick non-ashtray bridges that helped with mass. I drilled 3 holes in them to convert them to a brass compensated 3 saddle settup. This freed up the 6 holes for the original saddles that I can now use for top-loading, which I prefer with my old arthritic hands anyway. A lighter touch is IMO something to strive for and whatever stringing or mods that lead you down that path are a plus. This video is very much appreciated, as are all of Zac's videos.

  • @howardmaryon
    @howardmaryon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A request and a question: The early Tele and Esquiers had “Ashtray” bridge covers. Does using one make a difference? Please do a video on the history of “Ashtrays” and maybe do a “side by side”. The one you did on string thru vs toploader was so informative.

    • @AskZac
      @AskZac  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I already did this video. Do a search

  • @clarkie101
    @clarkie101 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    String through has a puncher sound . Top load sounds lighter.

  • @anthonymcgill8035
    @anthonymcgill8035 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Big Campilongo fan, as well. Nice work, Zac!

  • @daviddr2d2
    @daviddr2d2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I enjoyed the video, very interesting, thank you.

  • @howardmaryon
    @howardmaryon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonderful stuff Zac! Being a bit of a tinkerer, I am going to try this out! I have a player tele and a Squier, both string though, so I will try to find a “both ways” bridge. It is not going to be easy, because I am left handed.

  • @smoochie3331
    @smoochie3331 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whenever I hear toploader, Jim Campilongo pop up in my head.

  • @donanders2110
    @donanders2110 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The American Pro II Tele can load either way!

  • @RayGonzales-dp5cz
    @RayGonzales-dp5cz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Top load the bass strings and thru the treble strings.

  • @Guitarsncadillacs
    @Guitarsncadillacs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The J Mascis Tele is a toploader based on his ‘58 that hits most of the Dinosaur Jr. leads on the records.
    It’s an excellent guitar. Feels really good.

  • @Paine-yr9wd
    @Paine-yr9wd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I ran my strings on the back of my guitar that way I technically have two guitars! The back of the guitar plays extremely well and I get lots of compliments!

    • @AskZac
      @AskZac  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds great!

  • @sithbk0075
    @sithbk0075 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enjoyed your content so I subscribed. Trying to look for a gold bridge to will work with my recent purchased Squier 40th Anniversary tele. Mounting screw hole is at 61mm center to center and string through hole is at 52mm center to center. It’s smaller than Fender’s own bridge and as well as aftermarket brands. Any recommendations?

    • @AskZac
      @AskZac  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's a tough one. Look on ebay from Chinese sources, and ask for the measurements

  • @victorbeebe8372
    @victorbeebe8372 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fender offers top loader bridges on their website

  • @nicko6710
    @nicko6710 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Zac
    Thank you for referencing your sources. That goes a long way to making your channel credible.

    • @AskZac
      @AskZac  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate that!

  • @stevesuv
    @stevesuv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zac? I think that duco red is called Seminole red. It is in old Buick catalogues. A rare Roy Lanaham strat is Seminole red. Check it out.

    • @AskZac
      @AskZac  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got to hold the Roy Strat at the Nashville guitar show in March

  • @Thebluesguy
    @Thebluesguy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I play an American pro ii telecaster and it has both options.

  • @lifelongfan07
    @lifelongfan07 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok so does changing strings so quickly make THAT much of a difference?

    • @AskZac
      @AskZac  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just trying to have a good comparison

  • @jerryfurr8116
    @jerryfurr8116 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't tell any difference in my opinion

  • @michaeltherion7459
    @michaeltherion7459 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish there was a way to top load my strat with tremelo

  • @ShinyShinyBlack
    @ShinyShinyBlack 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hurray for some love for Jim Campilongo!!!

  • @jogmas12
    @jogmas12 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I felt the top load had more definition

  • @jeffcooper3433
    @jeffcooper3433 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't hear any difference 😊