BBBBeuatiful finish for only about $30, If your new here I typically paint signs and do wood cutouts here are some links to those videos.... FREE TATTOOS SIGN th-cam.com/video/VXGm-zoUk9w/w-d-xo.html DAY OF THE DEAD SKULL th-cam.com/video/F7bll6RKlmI/w-d-xo.html
You didn't say in the video but did you spray the entire 2nd (glitter) can all at one time, in one coat? If not, did you sand between coats? And what about the 5 final, Triple Thick clear coats - did you sand in between those? Thanks in advance.
Awesome video I followed your instructions to the letter and it my guitar came out looking factory finished. I wish i could post a pic of it on here. I just bought the candy colors from the other video and I'm going to try that next, i cant wait to get started.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,As a paint and body man...let me add..."WHEN YOU WET SAND...SAND EVERYTHING IN THE SAME DIRECTION"....NO circular motions...no up and down, then, side to side....sand lengthwise...one direction and clean clean clean between coats. But don't be fooled....I am going do to a Stratocaster body EXACTLY as what this video shows to do....I just always wanted a gold flake guitar...I love this video~!
Doing my drum set with this technique in purple. Can't believe I didn't think about this - The snare looks insane. Excellent 3D thinking man. Thank you so much for the inspiration.
So when this guy landed the job of painting Billie Joe's guitar I can imagine how that conversation went . A back and forth of "Ya know " and "Oh i don't know "
I watched this vid a year ago and finally got around to painting a tele body. Worked perfectly. Just posted your vid in a fB forum as a refernce for anyone wanting a killer budget paint job.
i like when someone cut through all the different ways and just tell us what to do. I've seen other good videos but this is the method I'm going with. Its enough to have to learn about proper soldering and hookup configurations so if I can cut out any unnecessary steps I will. Thanks for your video man. Guitar looks great!
Great video. I like doing things on the cheap and I'm kind of impatient by nature, so this was just what I needed. I did a partscaster with gold glitter and it came out pretty good for a first shot. The one comment I might make is that the glitter paint spray comes out with more pressure and greater volume than I thought and the first coat was a disaster. I was too close and I gobbed it on. A couple of huge runs and I was done for the day. I had to let it sit, then sand it off, then repaint the base gold and start the glitter all over. Tested my patience big time. The second time I stood about 3 feet away and just dusted the guitar body. Same thing with the clear coat. Stand back and dust. Build slowly. Take like....10 minutes. Thanks
That's awesome man I'm glad it worked out for you! You're right it does come out at a higher volume than you'd expect. I like to tell people to take practice swings first. I'd rather blow a can of paint and re-buy it than spending a day sanding haha!
Love the look of that! Some of the things you did here, I've seen recommendations against. Just to be clear - I am not an expert at all, I have just tried to read up on spray painting this past year so as to not mess up my own projects - so that's where the info below comes from. The first thing that went against what most people recommend, was sanding with 1000 grit on the primer, before applying the colour coat. Since acrylic lacquer relies on mechanical adhesion, a 1000 grit surface is too smooth for the paint to stick properly over time, and you risk peeling after a year or so. The highest grit I've seen recommended for good adhesion is 400. Some people won't go higher than 220. When using nitrocellulose lacquer, you don't need to worry about adhesion, because nitrocellulose melts into itself. Acrylic lacquer does not. The second thing is that you sprayed so many coats within such a short time period. The general rule I've seen is max 6 coats, divided into 2 spraying sessions, over the space of one day. Supposedly, too many coats within too short a time can cause the non-evaporated solvents to get trapped inside the paint job, which will cause imperfections over time. I hope your job stays awesome. But in case it doesn't, hopefully the above pointers will help for your next job, or for anyone else.
Thanks for stopping by and commenting, I too am not an expert, and all I have to go off of is my own experience, double referencing articles, blogs, and videos on the internet. Looking back at it now I agree with you, I would have used a higher grit paper between primer and base coat, but only into the 600-800 range. 400 seems a bit aggressive and is still a grit that is used for sanding out imperfections, and had this paint job not had a glitter coat on top of the base coat probably would have shown sanding marks. Personally, I have heard of breaking up paint session but I believe that working with spray paint, waiting for a few hours to 24 hours between coats would be more likely to cause paint failure. (You would be better off waiting 48 and then scuffing the paint before reapplying.) ideal re-coat times are 10- 20 minutes not exceeding an hour, based on 21°C/70°F - 50% relative humidity. Trapped solvents would reveal themselves relatively quick while painting, through the paint cracking. I used all acrylic paints in this project and that's where the 10 minute flash off time comes in play, the acrylics I used would still chemically bond with each other as long as you don't exceed the flash off point of about an hour according to the manufacturer. While lacquers need more dry time between coats and can melt chemically into themselves.
You could make an argument for the paint remaining soft when too many coats are applied but once I did let it fully cure before sanding and polishing the paint was hard and crack/ wrinkle free. I'm not wanting to misleading anyone, (and I'm NOT saying you are accusing me of doing so) I'm just showing how I achieved a killer metal flake finish with economical paint that just about anyone can get a hold of. All I can do is show people the final results I had. since this guitar has been finished it's been about 6 months and has been on at least one active tour through the greater parts of Mexico with its band and still looks like the day it left my shop... Thank you for commenting and thank you for your approach with your comment. There is more than one way to skin a cat, or in our case paint a guitar 😁
@@IronGordon Thanks for replying - the proof is always in the pudding, and if the job stays awesome, it looks like you've got a way more convenient way of doing things. I have no horse in the race except wanting to succeed with my projects and do them as efficiently as possible, so I will be following, and hope you'll keep us up to date. Cheers.
What a great tutorial on how to achieve those awesome results for such a great price! We'll have to check back on part 2 in.....we don't know, like maybe 10 minutes? 😁👍👍
Just watched your videos for this guitar. Absolutely awesome job. I am in no way, shape, or form a painter, so I've been doing a lot of research and your videos have been extremely helpful. I plan to paint an Xbox Series S, but I don't want to just slap on a can of black paint. Your videos have giving me some great ideas. My plan is to have the the base color be black, but I want to have a rich metal flake effect, and a hint of purple, or maybe Xbox green, kind of like flashing through the paint as it is viewed it from different angles. (I don't know how to properly explain it.) This is a project I'll complete over the next few months, as I have take time collecting all the various things I'll need (budget constraints), but I'm going to keep watching your videos and learning. When I'm ready to start, I think I might record my process and upload to TH-cam. Anyway, just wanted to say, you're awesome and thanks for sharing your skills.
Looks awesome ! About 30+ years ago ,the business I worked for was visited by a Rustoleum representative that gave a slide show of various applications Rustoleum paints were commonly found .. JCB , Caterpillar, his own VW Beetle he had sprayed blue himself using their Hard Hat ,and best of all , a drunk bloke on his stag night , bollock naked ,tied to a lamppost and sprayed Reseda Green 🤭👍
Hi. It looks like a sparkle big enough to come from a spray can. Love it!! I have always believed that it was not possible to get a sparkle finish where you can see a lot of glitter from a spray. Congratulations!!!!!!!!!
@@IronGordon really? I assumed there would be at least a couple other comments that the timing clips were just thrown in during edit mode. It happens all the time. You do your best filming then you put it together in edits and go uh..... damn, I didn't get my primer drying shot! oh well, we'll just use the sparkle shot there. :) I am going to try SOMETHING like this soon but I am not sure I'll be getting what I envision. I will do silver then some green and yellow color in poly then more glitter (larger) then try to clear all that and see what happens. ? I will test first on some cardboard and see if the result is ok. I need to write the dry time down so I can know how long between my coats. I have no idea. it's a water based poly I'm buying. thx!
@@TruthSurge You nailed it on the head Truth! the power of editing... your project sound like its going to look awesome, I hope you make a video out of it
@@IronGordon nah, I prob only will show a vid of the final result. I'll have enough problems probably without trying to film it. and plus, too many haters saying I did this wrong or that wrong. haha I ordered some polyurethane (water based) in a can and got some various glitter and also some transtint green and yellow dye. So... I SHOULD be ok but I want to see about spraying the glitter so I need to find out how big my needle is (pause) in my spray gun. It prob needs to be about 1.8 (mm?) but I don't know how to measure mine. I guess I'll have to snoop online and see how to go about finding out the diameter and if I need a bigger needle to shoot the big glitter. I can prob paint with a brush but I think spray will give a better result and thinner coats overall. ty!!
I'm not an expert with spray guns but I have shoved glitter throught a 1.7 needle, and have it work without clogging. I'm excited to see your final project, sounds like a good one!
I followed the exact procedure. I did not skip the sanding and the Mequiar’s Ultimate Compound. Now I have a gold sparkle Mod Collection Gibson without having to pay a Mod Collection price. Thankyou. 😊
@@CronicasRetro Nope. Not scratch resistant. Do they make scratch resistant clear coat? I let the 5 coats of glaze dry for a week. It got harder with time. I sanded and polished for what seemed like forever trying to eliminate orange peel. I didn’t eliminate all the orange peel. The Mcquiers polishing compound made the shine pop. I had to be careful not to polish through the tips of the horns on a gibson sg. I became satisfied and called it completed. I’m rough on equipment and I’ve already put a few scratches in it. Inspite of that the finish looks great because there is lots of sparkle ✨
Would you mind sharing what color you did yours in? Or do you have any pictures of the final project to share? This is edited bacause i realize you said Gold now lol my bad. Do you feel like the Gold came out just as nice as the silver ? I'm a carpenter by trade so the sanding part won't bother me as I love wood working, I am nervous about a blue flake not turning out as nice as the silver flake. My sons wants blue so bad. I'm about to attempt this on a donner Junior series telecaster electric guitar 30".
@@alaskanwolf1171 based on some tests that I have just made, I can tell you that the base paint should be the same color as the glitter for better results. So, paint the guitar blue (metal, gloss or mate) and add blue glitter.
@CronicasRetro OH yes! I definitely am going to do the base coat the same as the glitter color. I appreciate the advice incase I forgot or didn't know to do that. I feel like a lot of people don't realize that. Are you currently doing a guitar repaint project yourself ?
Did that glitter coat spray get everywhere because that's why I hate spraying metal flake - it gets everywhere and is so hard to get it all cleaned up so it doesnt effect next paint jobs.
Also, your editing, voice-over and sound are so pro...it is a total mystery why this video doesn't have thousands of views. Seriously, this looks better than anything I've ever shot.
Thank you! This is the most time I've ever spent with a guitar, but I do think it is a cool canvas. I was thinking about your video on making guitar bodies and considering making one to do a full blown painting/sign out of. This video came out about a week later than expected because of the voice over. Iron Gordon not so good at talking proper when microphone in front his face! Hahaha Thank you for the compliments!
Awesome, glad you liked it! Yeah please share this video it helps me out a lot, I have a part 2 for this guitar coming out here in a week or two as well
Oh dang that sucks... I was concerned about thecoverage as well because this glitter spray paint is essentially a clear coat that has colored glitter in it. that's why I lay down a base color of the metallic silver to get everything to be a consistent silvertone. I'm sure you knew all that but I'm just reiterating for anybody who might read this in the future!
Having tube lighting is the perfect way to determine your finish.... I used to do auto body.... I got fired, because I became obsessed with using the lights' reflection to determine when I was done buffing... my finish work was better than the factory paint... I didn't like that job anyway... I studied music obsessively, became a working musician... which I found out, is only about 20% music, at best... its mostly marketing, driving, carrying/loading/unloading/setting up/breaking down gear... Now I want to make guitars... for fun, for me... great video... thanks!
I absolutely do not want to know Billie Armstrong and painting over original Gibson's should be criminal! Juniors are meant to be tobacco burst. Now SG's are another story. Any colour than Red or black makes them interesting, check the new Epiphone Muse models.
Is it wise to trust the previous paint job? I mean, you're not sanding down to the wood but only like half way through the clear coat. How do you know what KIND of paint or clear was on there and whether the new paint and primer will actually play nice and stick? Yes, I see how not sanding it all off will save a lot of time and by extension, money. Just wondering why and when you would not sand all of it off. thx
I was 99% sure it was a factory paint job from Gibson, and they use a nitrocellulose lacquer as a finish. That type of lacquer can be painted over with paint that uses acetone as a thinner. The Rust-Oleum filler primer I used is an acrylic based with acetone thinner. So that's why I didn't take it to the wood, and regardless of the type of paints that are used, at the very least you would want to sand the old finish to a provide a tooth for the the new paint to grab into. Great question, thanks for asking!
@@IronGordon I checked out rustoleum primer and glitter paint on amazon from your link. 51% 1 star reviews I think on the glitter one. ! So, I am still trying to find a primer that will work. I actually called them and they said there is some Zinsser primer 1 2 3 or something that should work well with either oil or acrylic so I may give that a try but local Walmart didn't stock it. Thanks for the reply!!!
@@TruthSurge Yeah the glitter paint has a tendency to clog, that might be most peoples complaints, I had no issue with any of my cans. But thanks for looking through my links anyway! Good luck with your project!
Lovely job buddy. Looking forward to the next bit .oh disagree with the sticker on your bench I love your channel except for the music but that's because I'm a old bugger. But I'm nearly deaf so not a problem either lol . Cheers mate enjoyed yet again 👍🤘
@@IronGordon there were a lot of comments about that so I hopped on the band wagon, actually, I just thought it was a great video, I do a lot of painting.
As a guy with limited experience with spray cans, I am very impressed! I see the name Rust-Oleum and I'm even more impressed. I saw one of their colors I just had to have ("Pearl White" I believe) and went ahead with it. I'm used to using plain ol' nitro, which is easy to work with, but the Rust-Oleum just would not dry completely. I let it go for a couple months and it was still soft enough for a thumbnail to make a mark. I didn't know if it'd be safe to clear coat, so I took it off and started over with something else. You made working with "off the shelf" spray cans look easy. Good job!
Thanks! sorry to hear about your project, always a bummer to have to start over. I think when it never cures like that, is when different types of paint are mixed together, like acrylic over lacquer. but i don't know if that's your case.
Hey man, thank you so much for sharing your time and knowledge! After I watched this, I stripped apart a tele clone that I have and I repainted it. It wasn't perfect, but the other tele clone I ripped down and did a gold flake on is almost done. It's getting glazed today, and hopefully it comes out well. I wish I had the skill to do the next level job you did, but I'm not there yet. That Virgin Mary guitar paint job is bloody amazing, BTW. I think I may try to do either a jazz master or a les paul jr eventually. One question- can I use something like seafoam green as a base color and then hit it with silver flake, or will the silver overpower it totally? Anyway, thanks for sharing the knowledge!
This video was very helpful to me! I did this very same thing with one of my Gibson Les Paul junior guitars, giving it the silver sparkle paint finish, just like Billie Joe’s ! So thank you for teaching how to do it!
Hey Iron Gordo! First time long time listener! Who do you think you are?! What gives you the right?! Is it weird that some men pee sitting down? I'm asking for friend. I'll take your response off the air. Thank you. Mr. Worldwide
1. Hi... you almost got my name right 2. Thanks for stopping by! 3. Iron Gordon 4. America 5. No I don't think so, everyone has their reasonings for doing what they do. Peeing is a mostly private matter so if you're more comfortable sitting down to do it, then sit down... I mean your friend should... 6. We are not on the air... Do you think this is radio? 7. Are you calling me Mr. Worldwide? Isn't that Pitbull?
I used this technique and it turned out great. The only thing is it took months to fully cure. Maybe I applied heavier layers than I should have but I would change the advice from waiting ten minutes between coats to a solid 24 hrs to give each application time to set up
I saw Billy Zoom play a Gretsch in similar silver sparkle finish in '82 and his tone destroyed, not the other way around. Brian Setzer has a Gretsch signature model with a green sparkle finish. They're all applied in a similar way. Base primer, color coat, glitter, then thick clear glaze
I am in Europe so, it was three times your budget, but still a great value. I did have runs a couple of times... But that glitter spray covers the misery nicely. Thanks for your video.
Hey man ! I wanna say thanks ! I make a lot of guitar build projects, they are all green day replica’s. I always wanted to spray paint a silver sparkle, but i kept going away from it because i was scared the sparkle wont look good enough. I mean i dont know what size flakes i should get etc etc. Thanks to you i now know what spray paint i need to get to make it look spot on. Thanks a lot man, i will def give a shoutout to you for this !!! It looks amazing, this was very straight forward simple video !
Awesome dude thank you! The glitter / flake can definitely detour people because of the clear that's needed to smooth it out. But I've successfully pulled off this technique for art piece backgrounds and then on this guitar. I think it's a great simple solution for the diy people!
that was so good! No talking s#it like let it dry one year or more, be careful when you polish & etc. Im gonna paint my guitar like you, good job dude! greetings from rally english origins to finland
I am glad the glitter paint worked for you. I have bought 7 cans of the glitter Green and every can has been clogged before it is even used. I am hating this paint!!!!! When you said the manufacturer knows the product more than you do that is not true the representative at Rust-Oleum told me that the can has to sit in hot water for 20 minutes before it can be used(each time) so the glitter can loosen and not clog the can and even cleaned out the nozzle and air does pass thru and nowhere on the can directions does it ever say to put the can in hot water. The worst part the cans still never work. I love that glitter effect and with the clear it looks great, but for me I have never been able to get the same results from that product. Thanks for the video.
I hear you, I've had a these cans give out on me too. for me it was if I didn't turn the can upside down and empty the nozzle when I was done. I don't know how true that is so that why I didn't mention it in the video. Manufacturers and reps are different, I've out knowledged a few reps in person, they just want to sell the products. Manufacturers do testing, trial and error, and field studies to make sure the product is ready for market. I like the glitter paint but like you've experienced it can be finicky sometimes! good luck with your future projects!
Dang I found this video a day late! Just yesterday I used the green glitter spray on a guitar. Just used a normal gloss green, wish I had thought of a metallic green coat underneath. The things you can learn in like, 10 minutes.
Dude! Thank you so much for doing this video. I've been doing a guitar body in Rustoleum Metallic Gold and have been struggling the whole way...by struggling I mean making it up as I go along with varying levels of success. I'm at the clear coat point and I was reading about waxing because I saw how hard it was to maintain the color with sanding. I just did a test yesterday between the glaze you used a clear enamel.The glaze seems to have changed the color the least. I feel like this video totally validated my train of thought on this project. Thanks so much for all the tips in this video and the second part is truly amazing. Great job.
I was inspired and followed all the steps but different colors and it all came out great...all but one issue. You left it hanging and drying longer than you intended, and that worked out, because I waited a couple of days and it wet sanded well and polished like glass, but the clear was still soft enough to transfer the texture of anything that touches it. I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong. Finally I called rust-oleum and they said it needs 7 days to fully harden. This is the ONLY thing I would add as a note for this. Thanks!!
I love your laid back swag tone it really made me listen. The youtubers my kids listen to .... I really want to bring my shotgun and just... well anyways I subscribe now, always up for learning stuff. Guitar looks awesome.
So I'm looking to do this almost exactly, but I would like to make the guitar more holographic with the Spaz Stix Holographic spray paint under the clear glaze. Great video!
BBBBeuatiful finish for only about $30, If your new here I typically paint signs and do wood cutouts here are some links to those videos.... FREE TATTOOS SIGN th-cam.com/video/VXGm-zoUk9w/w-d-xo.html DAY OF THE DEAD SKULL th-cam.com/video/F7bll6RKlmI/w-d-xo.html
You didn't say in the video but did you spray the entire 2nd (glitter) can all at one time, in one coat? If not, did you sand between coats? And what about the 5 final, Triple Thick clear coats - did you sand in between those? Thanks in advance.
I noticed when you said 30 mins. the guitar already had glitter, lol! and the next shot is primer again.
What type of watch were you wearing in this video?
Awesome video I followed your instructions to the letter and it my guitar came out looking factory finished. I wish i could post a pic of it on here. I just bought the candy colors from the other video and I'm going to try that next, i cant wait to get started.
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I could stand for that video to be a bit longer. For, I don't know, like...10 minutes. 🤘😂
Ha I almost made the 10 minute mark on this one 👊
Lol... Was going to say... I don't know.... The same thing.
LoL I see what ya did there LoL 🤣
Right 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“How long will it take you to get here?!?”
“I don’t know ... like ... 10 minutes?”
This is the kind of how to video we need, but don’t deserve. Straightforward. Easy to follow. Fantastic.
HaHa thank you!
That finish is EXACTLY what I want for a project guitar I just bought. Looks absolutely amazing!
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,As a paint and body man...let me add..."WHEN YOU WET SAND...SAND EVERYTHING IN THE SAME DIRECTION"....NO circular motions...no up and down, then, side to side....sand lengthwise...one direction and clean clean clean between coats. But don't be fooled....I am going do to a Stratocaster body EXACTLY as what this video shows to do....I just always wanted a gold flake guitar...I love this video~!
Thanks for the advice, I didn't know that was how to do it! awesome comment good luck with your gold Stratocaster!
Doing my drum set with this technique in purple. Can't believe I didn't think about this - The snare looks insane. Excellent 3D thinking man. Thank you so much for the inspiration.
That's awesome man! Thanks for sharing, I'd love to see it, if you have an Instagram shoot me a message, no pressure
This dude knows how to copy and paste very well, and paint too by the way
It's like Billie Joe's one! Looks great
It definitely does. Thank you!
Long Durka it’s beyond me why Gibson doesn’t sell a junior in sparkle silver with a back neck I’d buy it in a heartbeat.
So when this guy landed the job of painting Billie Joe's guitar I can imagine how that conversation went . A back and forth of "Ya know " and "Oh i don't know "
I love the cut scenes "you wanna let it dry for...I dunno....10 minutes?"
Ha Ha thanks, yeah look at the guitar in the back ground, its already finished every time.
I watched this vid a year ago and finally got around to painting a tele body. Worked perfectly. Just posted your vid in a fB forum as a refernce for anyone wanting a killer budget paint job.
5:54 "...and you have a bbbbbbbbeautiful finish on the guitar..."
Nearly exactly what I was looking for! I just wanted it in gold! Definitely inspired me to do my P bass replica. Thank you
Thank you so much for this video, man. I wouldn't have had the courage to do this without it. I couldnt be happier with how my guitar turned out.
Nice! I'm so glad it worked out for you, I would love to see it. If you're on Instagram you can find me @iron_gordon
Thanks for the comment!
Best glitter guitar diy vid on YT
i like when someone cut through all the different ways and just tell us what to do. I've seen other good videos but this is the method I'm going with. Its enough to have to learn about proper soldering and hookup configurations so if I can cut out any unnecessary steps I will. Thanks for your video man. Guitar looks great!
Thanks Jeffrey! Good luck with yours
Great video. I like doing things on the cheap and I'm kind of impatient by nature, so this was just what I needed. I did a partscaster with gold glitter and it came out pretty good for a first shot. The one comment I might make is that the glitter paint spray comes out with more pressure and greater volume than I thought and the first coat was a disaster. I was too close and I gobbed it on. A couple of huge runs and I was done for the day. I had to let it sit, then sand it off, then repaint the base gold and start the glitter all over. Tested my patience big time. The second time I stood about 3 feet away and just dusted the guitar body. Same thing with the clear coat. Stand back and dust. Build slowly. Take like....10 minutes. Thanks
That's awesome man I'm glad it worked out for you! You're right it does come out at a higher volume than you'd expect. I like to tell people to take practice swings first. I'd rather blow a can of paint and re-buy it than spending a day sanding haha!
Say that "10 minute" phrase again and im gonna find you and.... say hello :) hehe gj w paint. Peace
HAHA you had me worried there for a second ✌️👊
Thank you for this video! Just did an older craigs list strat, turned out amazing with some metallic emerald green paint!
Love the look of that! Some of the things you did here, I've seen recommendations against. Just to be clear - I am not an expert at all, I have just tried to read up on spray painting this past year so as to not mess up my own projects - so that's where the info below comes from.
The first thing that went against what most people recommend, was sanding with 1000 grit on the primer, before applying the colour coat. Since acrylic lacquer relies on mechanical adhesion, a 1000 grit surface is too smooth for the paint to stick properly over time, and you risk peeling after a year or so. The highest grit I've seen recommended for good adhesion is 400. Some people won't go higher than 220.
When using nitrocellulose lacquer, you don't need to worry about adhesion, because nitrocellulose melts into itself. Acrylic lacquer does not.
The second thing is that you sprayed so many coats within such a short time period. The general rule I've seen is max 6 coats, divided into 2 spraying sessions, over the space of one day. Supposedly, too many coats within too short a time can cause the non-evaporated solvents to get trapped inside the paint job, which will cause imperfections over time.
I hope your job stays awesome. But in case it doesn't, hopefully the above pointers will help for your next job, or for anyone else.
Thanks for stopping by and commenting, I too am not an expert, and all I have to go off of is my own experience, double referencing articles, blogs, and videos on the internet.
Looking back at it now I agree with you, I would have used a higher grit paper between primer and base coat, but only into the 600-800 range. 400 seems a bit aggressive and is still a grit that is used for sanding out imperfections, and had this paint job not had a glitter coat on top of the base coat probably would have shown sanding marks.
Personally, I have heard of breaking up paint session but I believe that working with spray paint, waiting for a few hours to 24 hours between coats would be more likely to cause paint failure. (You would be better off waiting 48 and then scuffing the paint before reapplying.) ideal re-coat times are 10- 20 minutes not exceeding an hour, based on 21°C/70°F - 50% relative humidity.
Trapped solvents would reveal themselves relatively quick while painting, through the paint cracking. I used all acrylic paints in this project and that's where the 10 minute flash off time comes in play, the acrylics I used would still chemically bond with each other as long as you don't exceed the flash off point of about an hour according to the manufacturer. While lacquers need more dry time between coats and can melt chemically into themselves.
You could make an argument for the paint remaining soft when too many coats are applied but once I did let it fully cure before sanding and polishing the paint was hard and crack/ wrinkle free.
I'm not wanting to misleading anyone, (and I'm NOT saying you are accusing me of doing so) I'm just showing how I achieved a killer metal flake finish with economical paint that just about anyone can get a hold of.
All I can do is show people the final results I had. since this guitar has been finished it's been about 6 months and has been on at least one active tour through the greater parts of Mexico with its band and still looks like the day it left my shop...
Thank you for commenting and thank you for your approach with your comment. There is more than one way to skin a cat, or in our case paint a guitar 😁
@@IronGordon Thanks for replying - the proof is always in the pudding, and if the job stays awesome, it looks like you've got a way more convenient way of doing things. I have no horse in the race except wanting to succeed with my projects and do them as efficiently as possible, so I will be following, and hope you'll keep us up to date.
Cheers.
@@meadish I appreciate you being here!
Billie joe's sparkle les paul jr. Awesome!!
Probably the best “paint your guitar on the cheap” video I’ve ever seen. Thank you
I love flake jobs, and i love the original color of burst also!! So conflicted, great videos!
Still until today, he doesn't know how long to let it dry
wow you have long neck dude.
Word on the street has it that he waits oh...10 minutes.
What a great tutorial on how to achieve those awesome results for such a great price! We'll have to check back on part 2 in.....we don't know, like maybe 10 minutes? 😁👍👍
Thank you for watching guys! I knew you'd catch on!
Just watched your videos for this guitar. Absolutely awesome job. I am in no way, shape, or form a painter, so I've been doing a lot of research and your videos have been extremely helpful. I plan to paint an Xbox Series S, but I don't want to just slap on a can of black paint. Your videos have giving me some great ideas. My plan is to have the the base color be black, but I want to have a rich metal flake effect, and a hint of purple, or maybe Xbox green, kind of like flashing through the paint as it is viewed it from different angles. (I don't know how to properly explain it.) This is a project I'll complete over the next few months, as I have take time collecting all the various things I'll need (budget constraints), but I'm going to keep watching your videos and learning. When I'm ready to start, I think I might record my process and upload to TH-cam. Anyway, just wanted to say, you're awesome and thanks for sharing your skills.
Looks awesome ! About 30+ years ago ,the business I worked for was visited by a Rustoleum representative that gave a slide show of various applications Rustoleum paints were commonly found .. JCB , Caterpillar, his own VW Beetle he had sprayed blue himself using their Hard Hat ,and best of all , a drunk bloke on his stag night , bollock naked ,tied to a lamppost and sprayed Reseda Green 🤭👍
Oh man that's funny! That had to be a pain to clean up hahahaha
You know, for how many times you say "I dont know.. Like... 10 mins." You sound so unsure about it lol
I liked how it looked before you painted it.
Then this clearly isn't the video for you Alan.
@@IronGordonlol Clearly.still good video.
Your job is, I don't know, 10 out of ten ? Yes Sir !!!!
Hi.
It looks like a sparkle big enough to come from a spray can. Love it!!
I have always believed that it was not possible to get a sparkle finish where you can see a lot of glitter from a spray.
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!
4:53 - "Letting each coat dry for about..."
*triggered*
"... 10 minutes..."
*relieved*
HAHA that's funny
2:34 gee, that primer is awfully sparkly!
Haha good eye! You're the only one that's ever brought it up
@@IronGordon really? I assumed there would be at least a couple other comments that the timing clips were just thrown in during edit mode. It happens all the time. You do your best filming then you put it together in edits and go uh..... damn, I didn't get my primer drying shot! oh well, we'll just use the sparkle shot there. :) I am going to try SOMETHING like this soon but I am not sure I'll be getting what I envision. I will do silver then some green and yellow color in poly then more glitter (larger) then try to clear all that and see what happens. ? I will test first on some cardboard and see if the result is ok. I need to write the dry time down so I can know how long between my coats. I have no idea. it's a water based poly I'm buying. thx!
@@TruthSurge You nailed it on the head Truth! the power of editing... your project sound like its going to look awesome, I hope you make a video out of it
@@IronGordon nah, I prob only will show a vid of the final result. I'll have enough problems probably without trying to film it. and plus, too many haters saying I did this wrong or that wrong. haha I ordered some polyurethane (water based) in a can and got some various glitter and also some transtint green and yellow dye. So... I SHOULD be ok but I want to see about spraying the glitter so I need to find out how big my needle is (pause) in my spray gun. It prob needs to be about 1.8 (mm?) but I don't know how to measure mine. I guess I'll have to snoop online and see how to go about finding out the diameter and if I need a bigger needle to shoot the big glitter. I can prob paint with a brush but I think spray will give a better result and thinner coats overall. ty!!
I'm not an expert with spray guns but I have shoved glitter throught a 1.7 needle, and have it work without clogging. I'm excited to see your final project, sounds like a good one!
I followed the exact procedure. I did not skip the sanding and the Mequiar’s Ultimate Compound. Now I have a gold sparkle Mod Collection Gibson without having to pay a Mod Collection price. Thankyou. 😊
Hello, is the tripple glaze clear coat you used scratch resistant?
@@CronicasRetro Nope. Not scratch resistant. Do they make scratch resistant clear coat? I let the 5 coats of glaze dry for a week. It got harder with time. I sanded and polished for what seemed like forever trying to eliminate orange peel. I didn’t eliminate all the orange peel. The Mcquiers polishing compound made the shine pop. I had to be careful not to polish through the tips of the horns on a gibson sg. I became satisfied and called it completed. I’m rough on equipment and I’ve already put a few scratches in it. Inspite of that the finish looks great because there is lots of sparkle ✨
Would you mind sharing what color you did yours in? Or do you have any pictures of the final project to share? This is edited bacause i realize you said Gold now lol my bad. Do you feel like the Gold came out just as nice as the silver ? I'm a carpenter by trade so the sanding part won't bother me as I love wood working, I am nervous about a blue flake not turning out as nice as the silver flake. My sons wants blue so bad. I'm about to attempt this on a donner Junior series telecaster electric guitar 30".
@@alaskanwolf1171 based on some tests that I have just made, I can tell you that the base paint should be the same color as the glitter for better results. So, paint the guitar blue (metal, gloss or mate) and add blue glitter.
@CronicasRetro OH yes! I definitely am going to do the base coat the same as the glitter color. I appreciate the advice incase I forgot or didn't know to do that. I feel like a lot of people don't realize that. Are you currently doing a guitar repaint project yourself ?
You’ve just changed my entire painting world 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Ha, glad I could help!
This video is like. I don't know....Pretty cool.
Hahaha thank you and thanks for noticing subliminal patterns 😆
@@IronGordon I like to research this just for the "I don't know" parts. keep up the awesome work!
@@willstreet5148 Ha I do the same thing, thanks for stopping by!
Did that glitter coat spray get everywhere because that's why I hate spraying metal flake - it gets everywhere and is so hard to get it all cleaned up so it doesnt effect next paint jobs.
Oh yeah it's everywhere still haha 😅 glitter is the herpes of the craft world
Dude, killer! You know I love guitars and you CRUSHED it!
Also, your editing, voice-over and sound are so pro...it is a total mystery why this video doesn't have thousands of views. Seriously, this looks better than anything I've ever shot.
Thank you! This is the most time I've ever spent with a guitar, but I do think it is a cool canvas. I was thinking about your video on making guitar bodies and considering making one to do a full blown painting/sign out of.
This video came out about a week later than expected because of the voice over. Iron Gordon not so good at talking proper when microphone in front his face! Hahaha
Thank you for the compliments!
The amount of times you say "I don't know " really doesn't give a lot of faith. But you do you bro
Wow! That's an awesome idea! Looks great :) I'll have to try this one out myself. A lot of my family are musicians so I'll let them all know too :)
Awesome, glad you liked it! Yeah please share this video it helps me out a lot, I have a part 2 for this guitar coming out here in a week or two as well
Pretty amazing !! I did a dresser with it and it covered like shit !! Some spots wouldn't even cover no matter how many coats .
Oh dang that sucks... I was concerned about thecoverage as well because this glitter spray paint is essentially a clear coat that has colored glitter in it.
that's why I lay down a base color of the metallic silver to get everything to be a consistent silvertone.
I'm sure you knew all that but I'm just reiterating for anybody who might read this in the future!
Great video, really good work with no steps left out. By far one of the best spray paint tutorials I have seen.
Thanks you so much! I appreciate it
Having tube lighting is the perfect way to determine your finish.... I used to do auto body.... I got fired, because I became obsessed with using the lights' reflection to determine when I was done buffing... my finish work was better than the factory paint...
I didn't like that job anyway... I studied music obsessively, became a working musician... which I found out, is only about 20% music, at best... its mostly marketing, driving, carrying/loading/unloading/setting up/breaking down gear...
Now I want to make guitars... for fun, for me... great video... thanks!
Great story, I feel you on the 20% part for sure. Making art is only a fraction of what I actually do haha! But I love it. Thanks for watching!
Great work but I just don't understand why anyone would want to have the original Les Paul Gibson finish get painted over oh well
You should know Billie Joe Armstrong
I absolutely do not want to know Billie Armstrong and painting over original Gibson's should be criminal! Juniors are meant to be tobacco burst. Now SG's are another story. Any colour than Red or black makes them interesting, check the new Epiphone Muse models.
Is it wise to trust the previous paint job? I mean, you're not sanding down to the wood but only like half way through the clear coat. How do you know what KIND of paint or clear was on there and whether the new paint and primer will actually play nice and stick? Yes, I see how not sanding it all off will save a lot of time and by extension, money. Just wondering why and when you would not sand all of it off. thx
I was 99% sure it was a factory paint job from Gibson, and they use a nitrocellulose lacquer as a finish. That type of lacquer can be painted over with paint that uses acetone as a thinner.
The Rust-Oleum filler primer I used is an acrylic based with acetone thinner. So that's why I didn't take it to the wood, and regardless of the type of paints that are used, at the very least you would want to sand the old finish to a provide a tooth for the the new paint to grab into. Great question, thanks for asking!
@@IronGordon I checked out rustoleum primer and glitter paint on amazon from your link. 51% 1 star reviews I think on the glitter one. ! So, I am still trying to find a primer that will work. I actually called them and they said there is some Zinsser primer 1 2 3 or something that should work well with either oil or acrylic so I may give that a try but local Walmart didn't stock it. Thanks for the reply!!!
@@TruthSurge Yeah the glitter paint has a tendency to clog, that might be most peoples complaints, I had no issue with any of my cans. But thanks for looking through my links anyway! Good luck with your project!
@@IronGordon ty!
I used two cans on a project and had a little clogging issue, but the glitter is big and the clog wasn't too hard to clear.
Totally awesome finish applied to that guitar!
If I were the client, I wouldn’t ruin the silver with fancy graphics. Maybe some black binding. Call it a day. Fantastic job.
Lovely job buddy. Looking forward to the next bit .oh disagree with the sticker on your bench I love your channel except for the music but that's because I'm a old bugger. But I'm nearly deaf so not a problem either lol . Cheers mate enjoyed yet again 👍🤘
Ha Ha! music is a tough one to please everyone, but I appreciate your honest David! Thanks for the compliments as usual Amigo!
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I took a shot every time you said "ten minutes". I'm pretty buzzed.
Ha! Yeah that's a lot of shots
@@IronGordon there were a lot of comments about that so I hopped on the band wagon, actually, I just thought it was a great video, I do a lot of painting.
Ha that's great! Thanks so.much for watching. Are you posting your paintings anywhere?
As a guy with limited experience with spray cans, I am very impressed! I see the name Rust-Oleum and I'm even more impressed.
I saw one of their colors I just had to have ("Pearl White" I believe) and went ahead with it. I'm used to using plain ol' nitro, which is easy to work with, but the Rust-Oleum just would not dry completely.
I let it go for a couple months and it was still soft enough for a thumbnail to make a mark. I didn't know if it'd be safe to clear coat, so I took it off and started over with something else.
You made working with "off the shelf" spray cans look easy. Good job!
Thanks! sorry to hear about your project, always a bummer to have to start over. I think when it never cures like that, is when different types of paint are mixed together, like acrylic over lacquer. but i don't know if that's your case.
I was willing to wait and spend an additional 300 bucks just for my next guitar to be a certain color. Ive decided now to just paint it.
Great work man! Turned out great. Definitely going to give this a shot on one of my boards!
Awesome thanks for swinging by, good luck with your board projects!
Hey man, thank you so much for sharing your time and knowledge! After I watched this, I stripped apart a tele clone that I have and I repainted it. It wasn't perfect, but the other tele clone I ripped down and did a gold flake on is almost done. It's getting glazed today, and hopefully it comes out well. I wish I had the skill to do the next level job you did, but I'm not there yet. That Virgin Mary guitar paint job is bloody amazing, BTW. I think I may try to do either a jazz master or a les paul jr eventually. One question- can I use something like seafoam green as a base color and then hit it with silver flake, or will the silver overpower it totally?
Anyway, thanks for sharing the knowledge!
This looks absolutely amazing definitely going to try it in green sparkle
Nice that'll look good!
How did it turn out?
This video was very helpful to me! I did this very same thing with one of my Gibson Les Paul junior guitars, giving it the silver sparkle paint finish, just like Billie Joe’s ! So thank you for teaching how to do it!
Glad it helped!
And let that dry for about, 10 minutes.
I get ticked when someone gets burrito juice on my guitar!
I know right! Every time!
Thank you dude. I want this finish on my Jaguar with a Black sparkle guard. You did a great job!
Yeah mine came out a bit sloppy some run here and there but honestly this was the most fun I’ve had in a WHILE. Thank you for this video!
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2. Thanks for stopping by!
3. Iron Gordon
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I used this technique and it turned out great. The only thing is it took months to fully cure. Maybe I applied heavier layers than I should have but I would change the advice from waiting ten minutes between coats to a solid 24 hrs to give each application time to set up
Looks amazing already, I'd leave it at that.
Curious how the guitar sounded before vs. after (nitro vs. acrylic...) IMO that finishing glaze looks like tone destroyer lol...
What how
I saw Billy Zoom play a Gretsch in similar silver sparkle finish in '82 and his tone destroyed, not the other way around. Brian Setzer has a Gretsch signature model with a green sparkle finish. They're all applied in a similar way. Base primer, color coat, glitter, then thick clear glaze
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Nice job and lots of patience
Great video. I think I want to try this on a drum shell.
How to kill a Vintage guitar 😥
I am in Europe so, it was three times your budget, but still a great value.
I did have runs a couple of times... But that glitter spray covers the misery nicely. Thanks for your video.
I just watched this video for like......I don't know....10minutes? And, I.....I don't know......really dug it.
Hey man ! I wanna say thanks ! I make a lot of guitar build projects, they are all green day replica’s. I always wanted to spray paint a silver sparkle, but i kept going away from it because i was scared the sparkle wont look good enough. I mean i dont know what size flakes i should get etc etc. Thanks to you i now know what spray paint i need to get to make it look spot on. Thanks a lot man, i will def give a shoutout to you for this !!! It looks amazing, this was very straight forward simple video !
Awesome dude thank you! The glitter / flake can definitely detour people because of the clear that's needed to smooth it out. But I've successfully pulled off this technique for art piece backgrounds and then on this guitar. I think it's a great simple solution for the diy people!
that was so good! No talking s#it like let it dry one year or more, be careful when you polish & etc. Im gonna paint my guitar like you, good job dude!
greetings from rally english origins to finland
I am glad the glitter paint worked for you. I have bought 7 cans of the glitter Green and every can has been clogged before it is even used. I am hating this paint!!!!! When you said the manufacturer knows the product more than you do that is not true the representative at Rust-Oleum told me that the can has to sit in hot water for 20 minutes before it can be used(each time) so the glitter can loosen and not clog the can and even cleaned out the nozzle and air does pass thru and nowhere on the can directions does it ever say to put the can in hot water. The worst part the cans still never work. I love that glitter effect and with the clear it looks great, but for me I have never been able to get the same results from that product. Thanks for the video.
I hear you, I've had a these cans give out on me too. for me it was if I didn't turn the can upside down and empty the nozzle when I was done. I don't know how true that is so that why I didn't mention it in the video.
Manufacturers and reps are different, I've out knowledged a few reps in person, they just want to sell the products. Manufacturers do testing, trial and error, and field studies to make sure the product is ready for market. I like the glitter paint but like you've experienced it can be finicky sometimes! good luck with your future projects!
Great video. I'm on a Pearl drum kit project atm which I'm hoping to spray in Gold glitter
Bad ass bro. Stoked to see part 2!!!
Thanks! thats were the big boy "not so cheap" paint comes out haha
Thats SICK, recently picked up an old squire strat body (I think it has no markings) for $20 that im going to do something like this with
Great score on the strat! Good luck let me know how it turns out.
Dang I found this video a day late! Just yesterday I used the green glitter spray on a guitar. Just used a normal gloss green, wish I had thought of a metallic green coat underneath. The things you can learn in like, 10 minutes.
Wasn't going to use this brand but look good on this project better than my model cars
I plan to do this with with my Gretsch bass. I can't wait to see how it turns out!
I’ve wanted this video for so long. Looks amazing
Awesome, thanks!
Dude! Thank you so much for doing this video. I've been doing a guitar body in Rustoleum Metallic Gold and have been struggling the whole way...by struggling I mean making it up as I go along with varying levels of success. I'm at the clear coat point and I was reading about waxing because I saw how hard it was to maintain the color with sanding. I just did a test yesterday between the glaze you used a clear enamel.The glaze seems to have changed the color the least. I feel like this video totally validated my train of thought on this project. Thanks so much for all the tips in this video and the second part is truly amazing. Great job.
Wow thank you so much for the comment. I'm glad it worked out for you!
How did the glaze change the color? what color where you working with?
I was inspired and followed all the steps but different colors and it all came out great...all but one issue. You left it hanging and drying longer than you intended, and that worked out, because I waited a couple of days and it wet sanded well and polished like glass, but the clear was still soft enough to transfer the texture of anything that touches it. I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong. Finally I called rust-oleum and they said it needs 7 days to fully harden. This is the ONLY thing I would add as a note for this. Thanks!!
Very nice tutorial on making a sometimes daunting task pretty straightforward. Great job and thank you
Just what I needed to know - thanks
Thanks for this.
2k clear coat spray can with activator deal in the bottom of the can.... Game changer
You read my mind my dude hahaha it's in part 2 of this video that will be coming out soon.
I've been searching for new ideas to do on my motorcycle. Thanks for the inspiration Iron Gordon, keep up the great work!
Yeah Ryan, good luck! Send a pic of you do
I gotta say, I used two cans of the triple thick glaze. STILL feel glitter on the front
I love your laid back swag tone it really made me listen. The youtubers my kids listen to .... I really want to bring my shotgun and just... well anyways I subscribe now, always up for learning stuff. Guitar looks awesome.
Appreciate it. Yeah I dont know how some of those guys keep up that level of excitement for every video hahah. Thanks for subbing!
INCREDIBLE! Great vid and great paint job
This vid was about, I don’t know, 10 minutes…
I give this video, I don’t know, 10 out of 10 stars
So I'm looking to do this almost exactly, but I would like to make the guitar more holographic with the Spaz Stix Holographic spray paint under the clear glaze. Great video!
Oh nice. Spaz stix has some nice colors! Hope your project goes well, thanks for stopping by.
That’s beautiful 😍 !!!
Come out great, thanks for the video, planing on doing a custom paint job this way on a minibike project 👍.
Awesome job m8, really great video left u a BIG LIKE 😁👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you thank you 😁
Great job!
Hey thanks so much for commenting
really helpful, i'm wanting to do a purple thing with my guitar
You should!
Does the filler primer need to be the same color as the final look you're going for?
Awesome job dude!