Making Europe democratic - pt. 3 - Volt

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  • @tim-oliverhorz3199
    @tim-oliverhorz3199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Thanks a lot for this great and informative video.
    As a Volt member currently engaged in the German election campaign I believe that Volt in the short run will be able to influence other parties (especially when the other parties notice that people vote for Volt) and in the long run it will definitely help shape the EU on all levels.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Best of luck for the upcoming elections! Great that you are using your energy in the democratic process!

    • @tim-oliverhorz3199
      @tim-oliverhorz3199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ciceroni1 Thanks a lot!

    • @MMartec
      @MMartec 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I just became a member of Volt Germany also :)))

    • @tim-oliverhorz3199
      @tim-oliverhorz3199 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MMartec Cool! I left in July this year and are about to join the FDP. 😄

  • @DakiDaki7
    @DakiDaki7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Even tho I am leftist and don't agree with some thing Volt wants, I still like them and want for them to become bigger player in politics :D

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Good to hear, we also think they are a very interesting addition to the political arena. Why do you want them to become bigger?

    • @DakiDaki7
      @DakiDaki7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Ciceroni1 I think that bigger eurofederalist party will bring us Europeans together, and we will with better ability do things like pandemic

    • @herculeskoutalidis1369
      @herculeskoutalidis1369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We must ban immigration from the south to the north. Change me mind.

  • @volt_slovenija
    @volt_slovenija ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for a great video!

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it!

  • @specialFabi96
    @specialFabi96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Very cool, would love to see more about Volt! 🎉🇪🇺

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What sort of video would you like to see?

    • @herculeskoutalidis1369
      @herculeskoutalidis1369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you know Volt is in favor of making it easier for immigrants from Asia and Afrika make it to your country (and reproduce), hence replacing you?

    • @specialFabi96
      @specialFabi96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@herculeskoutalidis1369 As I am not a far-right eurosceptic, I do not fear being replaced: How should that even work? You are right, our society will develope. But who am I to decide who lives in Europe?

    • @specialFabi96
      @specialFabi96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@herculeskoutalidis1369 Your statement is racist and discrimminates everybody that was not born in Europe.

    • @herculeskoutalidis1369
      @herculeskoutalidis1369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@specialFabi96 so? How is this a bad thing, Fabi? Racism would protect a group of people from accepting to give their place to a less good group of people. I am not discriminating against non europeans. I am discriminating against "less good" in general. Average Greeks, Italians, Spanish etc in Sweden, are also bad for the same reasons.

  • @matthewvieru4575
    @matthewvieru4575 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thank you for making a video about Volt Europe!

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Our pleasure!

  • @lucasamorelliribeirokornex60
    @lucasamorelliribeirokornex60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Very good video, and very accurate as well!

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

    • @herculeskoutalidis1369
      @herculeskoutalidis1369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you know Volt is in favor of making it easier for immigrants from Asia and Afrika make it to your country (and reproduce), hence replacing you?

    • @lucasamorelliribeirokornex60
      @lucasamorelliribeirokornex60 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@herculeskoutalidis1369 wow. So much to unpack here. I think I'll just leave...

  • @FriedrichJeschke
    @FriedrichJeschke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thx for this Video - but where is the link / source that Diem25 wants paneuropean politics? This is something unique at Volt.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True, Diem has a slightly different set-up but also want to conduct politics across/over national borders. It has not the same pan-european core as Volt, neither does the other party we discussed (Pirate Party) but all three step beyond the national focus that traditional parties hold to.

  • @vegemarkr4582
    @vegemarkr4582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the great video :)

  • @andrejparunovic6888
    @andrejparunovic6888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just have a ten second segment at the begging saying, "this is part of a series on... to get to the first video in the series, click on the link in the description" and move on.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I get your point, we were thinking of how to do it. We thought it would be good to be able to watch them individually as well and hope that the chapters make it easy to skip the intro if you have already seen it.

  • @ronaldonmg
    @ronaldonmg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please add a definition whenever you use the word "populist". My favourite one is "polician pretending to defend the "good" populace against the "corrupt" elite" . The word "nationalist" is vague too. Just because you want your native language/culture to have some territory doesn't mean that you want to shove it down the rest of the world's throat (which would be chauvinist), nor that you don't care about nastiness happening abroad

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice definition of populist, thanks :)

  • @LoSpotItaliano
    @LoSpotItaliano ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video! Thanks

  • @marinmilevoj4829
    @marinmilevoj4829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you make your videos? What software do you use?

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We use a number of programmes to do simple animations, edit, etc. Mostly we use Final Cut Pro X for editing everything together. Are you looking to make your own videos?:)

  • @QuandaleDingle-ji2tj
    @QuandaleDingle-ji2tj ปีที่แล้ว

    will you make any more videos on this channel?

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  ปีที่แล้ว

      We do this as a sideproject and sadly often don't find the time. But yes, we plan on doing more :) so maybe soon you'll see new stuff pop up!

  • @raphael988
    @raphael988 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Video 🚀

  • @alexandersekizi1910
    @alexandersekizi1910 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    interesting and informative video - but work on your microphone setup, you have too ppl much gain, it's sounds a bit distorted ;)

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! You are right. We had some issues with the sound and noticed too late.. We'll have it fixed for next time!

  • @snowmanscz1011
    @snowmanscz1011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fix the chapters. This is not Diem25

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, copy paste mistake there. Fixed now ;)

    • @herculeskoutalidis1369
      @herculeskoutalidis1369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you know Volt is in favor of making it easier for immigrants from Asia and Afrika make it to your country (and reproduce), hence replacing you?

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If they’re going to abolish the EU, at least keep the Euro and the open internal border. Hopefully the EU reforms to stop the backslide.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think keeping the Euro and the common internal market but abolishing the EU might be slightly impossible. But yes, hopefully reforms will improve the EU to work well for all of us:)

  • @abraxaszee8953
    @abraxaszee8953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good morning. I have recently published a book that could provide some good material for your channel. It is called The Changing of the Gods.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you share a link?:)

  • @Tony.H03
    @Tony.H03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm annoyed that Volt acts as though this is revolutionary. The Green parties came up with this decades ago. The EGP is the first European party, federal out of necessity, not conviction. The Greens, many liberals, and many social democrats have always supported trans-European parties and lists. I hope Volt gets this done, and then makes itself obsolete/dissolves into the liberals. We have too many parties in eg the NL already.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It might not be very different but there are some clear ones. The EGP indeed is a European party (or group), but more in the traditional sense. It still is a confederation of many different national parties though. They each ran with their own national programmes and names during the 2019 EP elections. Volt however ran with exactly the same programme in 2019. If successful this is an important step toward transnational parties.
      NB. The Volt MEP is currently also part of the EGP. Which highlights that parties within the EGP can differ quite a lot from each other.

    • @Tony.H03
      @Tony.H03 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ciceroni1 I think you're confusing the EGP with the Greens/EFA. The EGP member parties sit in the Greens/EFA, but Volt (nor the EFA parties) aren't members of the EGP. And the EGP has both a European programme, as well as national ones.
      But again, that is by necessity, not conviction. The EGP and all its member parties are pro trans national lists and pan European parties (at at the European level anyway).

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Tony.H03 You are right, the EGP is indeed a 'federal party'. But I think the comparison is still basically the same. Where Volt campaigned explicitly with 1 programme, the same name etc. The EGP campaigned as national parties. While they might have common positions, I don't think voters have the feeling they are voting for something besides their national party. This is a new approach by Volt. Wouldn't you agree?
      PS. I do agree that the EGP with very similar names (when translated) and similar party programmes is already a step towards transnational parties. From that perspective both parties can be happy they are not alone in the effort :)

    • @Tony.H03
      @Tony.H03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ciceroni1 no I agree, but my point is that the Greens would basically want to do what Volt does, but because they already have national names they don't. Also to be clear: the transnational programme is more important than the national programmes and when it comes to voting in the EP, that is supposed to be the basis, not much unlike Volt. Although it is less strict because the national parties preceded the EGP (again, by necessity, not conviction 🙃). The parties would prefer to not run for the EP, but instead have one EGP run for which they campaign. So I dislike that Volt pretends it's so revolutionary, while the EGP (and sorta the PES) already support this kind of structure, but the way European elections work limits them from doing what Volt does. Of course Volt kinda succeeded where they failed, but I'd like the acknowledgement? I would've liked for Volt to not have formed a party but instead some kind of collective that strongly encouraged and pressured Greens, Liberals, and Social Democrats to pursue their European mission more or smth. I also think that would've been more effective.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Tony.H03 I understand your point, but I'm not so sure about some aspects. In case transnational parties would formally fully exist: Do you think the for example GroenLinks would stop campaigning as themselves for EP elections, but instead campaign solely for the EGP? That means they lose influence and money because they as GroenLinks formally don't have seats in EP.
      Also Volt formally had the same limitations in how the EU elections work. They decided to form a party that internally already acts like a European party, instead of a collection of national parties. This is a choice the Greens also had/have.
      As for encouraging others: they do have very concrete proposals on how to change the EU electoral system and their MEP does work on this in Brussels I believe.

  • @aussiegod4269
    @aussiegod4269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Gorbachev of the EU.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds interesting, could you explain what you mean exactly?:)

    • @aussiegod4269
      @aussiegod4269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Centralisation under the guise of democratisation is not a solution for broad underlying dissent. What’s best for all Europeans may not be best for Europeans in the Eastern bloc. Thinking that the voices of the minority populist nations can be drowned out by the larger states is not a long term strategy for unity. It’s because of this that Volts ambitions will never materialise. Even if they obtain a great reception in the west you can be sure that the visegrad states will not comply and harden their resolve against the EU. This ultimately sets up the same dynamic that existed between the EU and UK before Brexit.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@aussiegod4269 Volt has chapters in countries across Europe, including Visegrad countries, that contribute to policy as do those in the Benelux. Do you not think they could represent the voice of the people in those countries?

    • @aussiegod4269
      @aussiegod4269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ciceroni1 Democratisation would suggest that countries with majority population centres will have a greater say in EU policies which are for the most part in opposition to the political values of Eastern bloc nations. It’s similar to how in the US more populated states can field more representatives to congress which leaves unpopulated states on the margins of the political lens. Now you might say that why dont the Eastern European states just boost their population through mass migration. Well the fact is they have seen the costs associated with such a Ponzi scheme in the west and don’t want to go down that same route, instead opting for natural growth. So the conundrum still lies that these countries will ultimately be sidelined.

  • @herculeskoutalidis1369
    @herculeskoutalidis1369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All these 3 parties support immigrant quotas*, as well as making it easier for immigrants from Asia and Africa to cross over to Europe (=Germany, etc.). Meanwhile, countries like Germany are now only 74% german, the rest being immigrants from the south. Those parties (along with most big mainstream parties) support this steady population replacement. Athens, where I live, is now 30% non white. So it is going to be Orban/Salvini/Le Pen, etc. for me.
    * Immigrant quotas means that a freemason government in Greece will keep allowing immigrants coming, then these must be (according to aslo freemason Volt/Pirates/Diem) redistributed to Sweden, Germany, Poland, Hungary, Finland. I mean, guys. It's not rocket science.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It certainly isnt rocket science :) Politics is much less clear.
      Several parties want to make it easier for immigrants to follow a legal route, rather than only having an illegal one. This does not per se mean there will be more immigrants.
      Of course, you have every right to vote for Orban/Le Pen etc. if you prefer the Europe they envisage. That's the nice thing about democracy :)

    • @herculeskoutalidis1369
      @herculeskoutalidis1369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ciceroni1 I do prefer the Europe they envisage. Because the alternative (what we have now), is Germans being slowly replaced by Greeks, Turks, Syrians, Italians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Afghans, and so on. So I don't see how this is better than a nativist Europe. I mean, I know it is not a rainbows and roses ''''End of History'''' kind of solution. But I believe is still better than what our current era will eventually lead us to in about 20 years from now. :)

    • @letsgoraiding
      @letsgoraiding 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said.

    • @realtimestatic
      @realtimestatic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What’s so bad about immigrants?

    • @tomorrowneverdies567
      @tomorrowneverdies567 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@realtimestatic You Tube doesn't allow me to answer with my other account, so I answer with this one. The more north you go inside Europe, the more beautiful nations become. Therefore immigration from the south to the north decreases the average beauty of the population. Immigration from the north to the south is fine though, for the same reason.