Last word is the important one. Unhealthy people perceive other people’s legitimate boundaries as “controlling”. Especially people with personality disorders.
@@100mphFastball No it isn't. Psychopathy affects around 1% of the population so around 1 in every 100 people. Not many will date anywhere near that number so statistically it is very unlikely the average person will date a psychopath.
@@kellygreeniithats true. But increasingly women are actually being psychos and I'm finding myself overblaming. Its like women caught on to my self awareness and took liberties not only with me but tried it on regular guys too luckily which people now listen to 🫶. Psychos frfr, everywhere
This is not about morality, this is about whose sexual strategy comes out on top. Since a relationship is not viable when the female sexual strategy comes out on top, men should enforce their boundaries instead of arguing about them.
My grandma blamed me for breakups before she figured out the level of abuse and then was just smug. Nobody actually cares if men are abused, they see it as a vicarious W for women through the generations. Like it somehow makes up for the way their great grandpa treated their great grandma.
He was supposed to be emotional, he was supposed to bargain and plead but he didn't and he denied her a dose of narcissistic supply to feed her ego...and it pissed her off.
@@rybackfrankie8679 Yes we are. . . . . . .The ONLY people who think Jonah Hill did anything wrong are narcissistic feminist types that NO ONE want anything to do with. The types to participate in gender wars on Quora and medium.
If a woman can divorce her husband and answer the question of WHY with "for my happiness", why can't a man say "I don't like you doing this. If it doesn't stop, I'm leaving".
Honestly we need laws that punish people for false accusations. That’s the big problem, people do this stuff to regular guys that aren’t Johnny Depp and they get 0 consequences.
In my opinion Jonah has more of a backbone than Will Smith. At least Jonah had the self respect and courage to leave-even respectully without being emotional (butthurt). Not to mention Jada actually stepped out which is far worse than what Jonah experienced. Of course she was salty and tried to "expose" him lol shes pathetic and looking for sympathy but didn't take him serious until he actually left as he should have.
yes but, he should've never been there to begin with, women who make money with their bodies are whores, regardless of selling sex or not. a surf instructor spend her days naked talking with guys naked, and Jonah knew he was going to feel threatened but the problem with Jonah is that he tried to play the "I'm a democrat" card and let the woman be a whore and backfired.
Honestly, we all can do better than Will Smith and we have to credit Will Smith for that. He died on the cross to show us all what can happen if you’re with the wrong type of woman. He’s one of many examples that men are able to look at and try to understand, in order to better their situation with women. He’s an example of what can happen when you choose the wrong woman… Even if you’re wealthy, even if you’re respectable, even if you’re honest. Sorry everything had to happen to big will… But we are all able to learn from that and be better. We are able to make better choices. We are able to see warning, signs, and red flags earlier now, we are also able to see the horrors that come from not vetting a woman properly, and from having children with a woman who does not share your ideals and principles. And we are learning even more from Jonah now.
He is not dictating he is setting boundaries. She has the option to either value him or to value her friendships with the 304’s that she used to hang out with. It is her choice and she valued her friends more than him and I appreciate her honesty she basically said fuck you I’m doing what I want, and that’s her choice. The only reason we’re discussing it now is because she didn’t win in the situation some other woman “won“ so now there’s a problem. Do you think any of this would be an issue if Jonah Hill had two or three bad movies in a row and fell off and didn’t have a woman or a child? it wouldn’t. She would be on social media, dragging him talking about how she dodged a bullet and how he ain’t shit.
Yeah, but if you befriend a bunch of hoes… Birds of a feather. The men who walk up to those women don’t know that you are married. When you hang out with your friends in the bar and get drunk, the men don’t know that you are the person out of the four of the women that has a relationship. Those four men come over there and your three friends will want you to occupy man number four so that they can get their groove on. Are you going to tell me this is not a dangerous situation? I wouldn’t want my wife hanging out with her whole friends either she shouldn’t have whole friends. She needs to be friend married women who are loyal and who are about their family. That’s like men who have jobs and families and children still running around in the streets with their fucking childhood friends… If those friends didn’t grow up, then they are left behind… same with women.
Crazy how the women disagree then later agree after he breaks it down to them like children and yet they’re still dismissive and try to create “what if”scenarios
I just left a abusive, narcissist, much like that, the moment she realized, I no longer cared what she said or did she approach me at the only gym I go to 30 miles from her home and harassed me there when I called the police, she said she was in fear because I was interrupting her routine. She did not even have a membership and that was given in court, they did not care. She said she was afraid of me, and then I was coming there to find her yet I turned around from lifting to find that she had walked in after me and gotten a guest pass. She was there with some guy I knew that I taught Jiu Jitsu. She even used his cop status to attempt to back her story of me being nasty, I produced the gym surveillance video with sound which disproved her claim and the court still gave her a pfa because we just had that shooting in Lewiston Maine . I almost list my life over this. I called the police out of fear and yet I got punished
It called the patriarchy - didn't you feel how everything was designed to benefit you as a man, when your ex made up shit and false accused you and everyone automatically believe her?
my mother has spend the huge majority of her life playing the victim until the day she left this world. I have seen first hand how evil self centered and manipulative women can be and I really wish she was an isolated case.
Yeah, but he was attracted to that from her social media. Then he tells her that she couldn't do that anymore...he was controlling in a passive aggressive way.
If u cant meet someones expectations breaking up is normal. Why is he not allowed to have a boundary. How many fucking boundaries do women have with men? A fucking lot@@eduardocruz4341
W o accountability Legit defraud "family court" aka w e the x baby momma says is true but she can change aka amend and report co.plete lies and the man has proof. Just like false allegations ruining men and if and when they do get held accountable they let them go bc it's a women smh
@@ppputalawuea True although these woman aren't regular people, these are internet sex workers essentially & their input is usually valued the same way a crack head's views are valued.
The fact this is a conversation at all blows my mind. The dude didn't want her doing something and gave her a choice to stay and comply or not and leave... Nothing else.
Yeah……..her facial expressions and contempt are pretty annoying. He makes excellent points and she immediately has a rebuttal regardless of the logic. Fights for women whether they’re right or wrong….. no objectivity.
Yeah that same chick in another episode of this pod, tried to blame the male Podcasters in general becuz alot of women look really dumb on podcasts....as in it's the men's faults that women look bad on them.😂 Andrew Wilson had to bring up "why don't these women do any research on the podcasts before they go on them to be better prepared". Lol.and she literally still tried to argue that even. 😂😂😂. While in that same episode of this same podcast, they went around the table and the male guests plus Rollo amd Sartsin were giving examples of how many hours of reseaech they were doing before they appeared on pods. AKA as in several hours of research...that woken will ever rarely do.. women on the other hand will watch a few clips amd that's it.... She is incredibly bad...
@@stevec3526because they don't have to understand and it benefits to keep the delusion going about the truth because all their power is is in the man not knowing his power(understanding women and willing to walk away at any point)
Men having boundaries is controlling and manipulative? This is the kind of gaslighting shit that keeps me single. Solitude rocks and I have time for my hobbies.
Jesse Preston is her name. The best part of her having those gorgeous twins is she knows what they do to men and carries herself accordingly, namely graceful and proud like a Royal bull elk carries his...ahem rack.
Boundaries are not controlling. The person is still free to do whatever they want. But there will be consequences. You’re just making them aware of the consequences so that they can decide if they want to engage in the behavior.
How many times do women say a man's friends are a bad influence as if he can't make a decision? How about isolating him from friends? However, a woman rarely gets called out for doing that...she will walk away, get a pass..but not for the man...
She thought he was her break glass in case of approaching wall, last resort guy… but she read it wrong. She thought that she could leave, go play the field, have her fun, and that he would be waiting for her when it was over. She didn’t factor in that the dude is worth $70 million and there are plenty of women who find that very attractive. When he moved on, she realized that her insurance policy expired.
I'll say this... Whenever men say something. MEN mean it, usually in a very up-front, direct, literal way... WOMEN, when THEY say the same thing. Literally means 10 different things based on her emotional state at the time. So women will project the stuff they FEEL it means, over what the men meant when saying it. Thats one of the biggest reasons communication between the two is so strained.
Because if he was concise he would not be impactful he needs to work on being impactfull and stop dragging his points because he likes to be heard and not being concise is a shitty way to garner attention to make sure they are paying attention and receiving how about say something that grabs their attention and makes them beg for you to finish what you were going to say or to continue
The most important takeaway is that when people falsely accuse others of abuse, or try to spin reasonable discourse as abuse, it impairs the ability for actual abuse victims to get help. Please, let’s not ruin the progress we’ve made over the last 100 years by giving stage to people who “cry wolf”
You need to get outside of this bubble every now and then and see how the majority of guys act. Most men are still clueless and will cave to shaming language
This is insane. If Hill wasn't happy with the rules of his relationship, he has every right to walk (which he did). The only thing I'm getting from this discussion is that you should never speak logically to women. A simple "this isn't working for me, good luck" or (if you want to gaslight the woman a bit) "I get the sense that you are not happy in this relationship, let's take some time apart to see where things are going" is all you need. Don't ask her to change on anything major. Women should just "get it" without being asked and, if she doesn't, she's not the right woman for you.
Jonah Hill's life was not "ruined" he's currently working on a project with Keanu Reeves who's one of the biggest actors in the world. He also has something coming out on Netflix that he directed. Jonah Hill is a famous multi millionaire who dates women that are way more attractive than he'll ever be. He's got it made. Is his ex gf trying to get get clout by playing the victim? Absolutely. But let's not pretend like Jonah Hill's life is over. That's just hyperbolic nonsense.
With regards to not clubbing with the toxic friends. Its likely that Jonah Hill has seen it all. He has probably seen married women been egged on at parties by their girlfriends to Smash the celebrity. He might have been the beneficiary to it as well.
Bingo. Being a celebrity he’s probably seen it all and understands female nature probably more than most men. As a moderately attractive guy, I’ve had experiences with women only to find out later that said woman is married and/or lies about being in an open marriage.
1000% she is at fault …WHY is this happening now????? Imagine if this was OUR life? Boom, we break up, I get with another woman AND about to have a kid and you release this? No, bro if anybody outside of this actually did this, they would be in a mental hospital
Weakness or not most men know that it's just so much easier to let her feel like she's leaving you because then she's LESS vindictive... notice I said less
My kids' mom called not letting her start smoking "controlling". My instantaneous response: "you can smoke, you just can't smoke AND be with me." Pretty simple guys. She can pack her shit and kick rocks.
Women will protect their access to options with their last breath. Men’s arguments are completely irrelevant, instead men should have boundaries they enforce without arguing.
A man could have a preponderance of evidence in his favor and a woman would still find fault in it! They’re constantly discrediting themselves in rational conversations!
RESPECT is the word people don’t understand, if you’re in a relationship it’s about both of you not about being simple or alone anymore, what do people really want out of a relationship?
How about putting the text on the screen so we can analyse it before arguing about it amongst yourself. I'd like a chance to read it in context before I take a side.
When I read the text messages a while ago, I was left confused why I had to read them. I thought he gave her all the space and room to go if she didn't want to respect a preference/boundary of theirs. When men express boundaries in a relationship to a woman, it can ruin their reputation, even doing it in a healthy way with a therapist helping you process things. How can men be told to express emotions and feelings in relationships, when the moment this is done, it doesn't become something to assist with or help with, it becomes ammunition for the future. When was the last time something you said during a moment of expressing emotions was used against you? I hope it is never.
4:34 "Matthew McConaughey in Point Break"? Did they redo this movie? I remember Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze. I don't recall Matthew McConaughey in that one.
This conversation is a good example of why Rollo sucks and Michael is the man, totally based. Rollo rides the fence, blames them both, says a bunch stuff in 10 minutes that could have been said in one, and despite his academic studies, has no idea what it is like in the modern dating world unless he's been cheating on his wife the last 20 years. Michael knows the scene and he knows his shit. So listen to Michael, not Rollo's word garbage. Jonah did nothing wrong. Once that girl became his girl, since he had status, she was expected to fall into his frame. She didn't. He handled it better than I would have, that's for sure.
It’s interesting that in analyzing this whole thing and how wrong her behaviour is, the men on the panel still have to shit on Jonah and even belittle him as not setting boundaries but rather just a fat insecure A- celebrity. No matter how these situations go, there is always some blame to b thrown in the man’s direction by other men. Even if he simply walked out on the situation refusing to let himself b disrespected in anyway but not lashing back at her, men would still come out and claim he’s weak in some way.
This is true yall. I had an ex of almost 10 years who was doing witchcraft to try to hurt my cousin who was a female. Their was always a jealousy thing among them. She cheated on me and it went for a year or two. I found out and broke up with her. She moved into the new guys house the next day. I helped her move her stuff to her car along with my brother. I let her borrow my car for work and to hang with friends. Long story short. I’m with a wonderful women right now. She treats and respects me and I do the same back. Just recently my ex texted me saying how my girl now is doing witchcraft on me to have me fall in love with her. And also she made a onlyfans account and was using her pictures. Like what?!?!😂😂😂😂 bitches are crazy bro. They hate to see you happy lmao. To me it felt so good
could have gotten a false accusation out of spite....you gotta be real careful how you end things with these broads, they could completely ruin your life with one false claim. Thats why im not dating anymore. Couldnt imagine getting me Too'd over something i never did
Human life is so precious and we are spending most of our time saying - he did that or She did that - enjoy life - live fast - we don't have 1000s of years to live - if we are lucky we will make it to 80 years - life is too short for playing blame games for both men and women - get over it - get a life - there are other things to do in life than chase women or chase men
Sarah Brady is mid at best. She had her shot, she let her ego get in the way. Much respect to Jonah. Good women are still out there, she wasn’t one of them. To her I say, “Bitter much?”
Guilelessness isnt something most women truly appreciate because they are so full of guile. Jonah made his feelings KNOWN. Youd think you appreciate knowing where someone stood so no one has to waste their efforts. Your internal space must be one hell of a waste land to not appreciate forthriteness.
For clarity, this is my opinion. I feel, that if my girlfriend were to hang out with questionable people who have questionable morals, she would be more likely to do something questionable and immoral due to humans inate desire to fit in. Women being more social I feel are more influenced by others, which is why I have bounderies that I not only set, hold myself to the same standard.
She agrees man should have a choice to support. But once that baby is here and she finds out she can get a extra thousand plus a month without working for it. She'll change her mind. There again women are the gate keepers.
All these women up here complaining and defending the other female for her doings. When at the end of the day, it's all about respect. The man needs to be respected period just like the man respects his woman to be a woman respect very strong word. And actions, people do not understand what respect is. When you love your partner, you respect him just like the man that loves his woman, he respects his woman. Nobody in here is talking about the word respect. Because everybody's caught up in the media world. Not understanding what respect is
Guys, at this rate, they'll try to make it illegal to break up with them. Walking away is considered controlling now. Psychos.
Last word is the important one. Unhealthy people perceive other people’s legitimate boundaries as “controlling”. Especially people with personality disorders.
@@kellygreeniiyep.
Psychopathic behavior is very common. It’s very probable that you’re with a psycho.
@@100mphFastball No it isn't. Psychopathy affects around 1% of the population so around 1 in every 100 people. Not many will date anywhere near that number so statistically it is very unlikely the average person will date a psychopath.
@@kellygreeniithats true. But increasingly women are actually being psychos and I'm finding myself overblaming. Its like women caught on to my self awareness and took liberties not only with me but tried it on regular guys too luckily which people now listen to 🫶. Psychos frfr, everywhere
The sisterhood defends all in their group irrespective of morality. 😂
This is not about morality, this is about whose sexual strategy comes out on top. Since a relationship is not viable when the female sexual strategy comes out on top, men should enforce their boundaries instead of arguing about them.
My grandma blamed me for breakups before she figured out the level of abuse and then was just smug. Nobody actually cares if men are abused, they see it as a vicarious W for women through the generations. Like it somehow makes up for the way their great grandpa treated their great grandma.
What’s crazy is when they choose the sisterhood over their own father/Brother/CHILD
Until you parachute a 6'5 good looking man with a 6 figure salary, and then it's all out war.
And this is why they are miserable.
Jonah is saying if we are incompatible then we should break up. What in the hell is wrong with that?
Men aren't allowed to have standards and to break up with women anymore 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
He was supposed to be emotional, he was supposed to bargain and plead but he didn't and he denied her a dose of narcissistic supply to feed her ego...and it pissed her off.
@@rybackfrankie8679 Yes we are. . . . . . .The ONLY people who think Jonah Hill did anything wrong are narcissistic feminist types that NO ONE want anything to do with.
The types to participate in gender wars on Quora and medium.
The left guy say jonah setting boundaries is a beta move
American man's are delusional because of modern shitty values
@@rybackfrankie8679 we aren't allowed to do anything anymore that gives us happiness
If a woman can divorce her husband and answer the question of WHY with "for my happiness", why can't a man say "I don't like you doing this. If it doesn't stop, I'm leaving".
Listening to hot women being scared to death of accountability tells you everything you need to know about them.
It's amazing how many women just cannot ever take responsibility for anything.
On top of that, they'll support the sisterhood avoiding responsibility.
Mike you drove that point home! Shout out to you for deflecting all those women’s shaming languages in the process
Honestly we need laws that punish people for false accusations. That’s the big problem, people do this stuff to regular guys that aren’t Johnny Depp and they get 0 consequences.
In my opinion Jonah has more of a backbone than Will Smith. At least Jonah had the self respect and courage to leave-even respectully without being emotional (butthurt). Not to mention Jada actually stepped out which is far worse than what Jonah experienced. Of course she was salty and tried to "expose" him lol shes pathetic and looking for sympathy but didn't take him serious until he actually left as he should have.
He is 1000 times more of a man than Will Smith
yes but, he should've never been there to begin with, women who make money with their bodies are whores, regardless of selling sex or not. a surf instructor spend her days naked talking with guys naked, and Jonah knew he was going to feel threatened but the problem with Jonah is that he tried to play the "I'm a democrat" card and let the woman be a whore and backfired.
Honestly, we all can do better than Will Smith and we have to credit Will Smith for that. He died on the cross to show us all what can happen if you’re with the wrong type of woman. He’s one of many examples that men are able to look at and try to understand, in order to better their situation with women. He’s an example of what can happen when you choose the wrong woman… Even if you’re wealthy, even if you’re respectable, even if you’re honest. Sorry everything had to happen to big will… But we are all able to learn from that and be better. We are able to make better choices. We are able to see warning, signs, and red flags earlier now, we are also able to see the horrors that come from not vetting a woman properly, and from having children with a woman who does not share your ideals and principles. And we are learning even more from Jonah now.
He is not dictating he is setting boundaries. She has the option to either value him or to value her friendships with the 304’s that she used to hang out with. It is her choice and she valued her friends more than him and I appreciate her honesty she basically said fuck you I’m doing what I want, and that’s her choice. The only reason we’re discussing it now is because she didn’t win in the situation some other woman “won“ so now there’s a problem. Do you think any of this would be an issue if Jonah Hill had two or three bad movies in a row and fell off and didn’t have a woman or a child? it wouldn’t. She would be on social media, dragging him talking about how she dodged a bullet and how he ain’t shit.
Yeah, but if you befriend a bunch of hoes… Birds of a feather. The men who walk up to those women don’t know that you are married. When you hang out with your friends in the bar and get drunk, the men don’t know that you are the person out of the four of the women that has a relationship. Those four men come over there and your three friends will want you to occupy man number four so that they can get their groove on. Are you going to tell me this is not a dangerous situation? I wouldn’t want my wife hanging out with her whole friends either she shouldn’t have whole friends. She needs to be friend married women who are loyal and who are about their family. That’s like men who have jobs and families and children still running around in the streets with their fucking childhood friends… If those friends didn’t grow up, then they are left behind… same with women.
Crazy how the women disagree then later agree after he breaks it down to them like children and yet they’re still dismissive and try to create “what if”scenarios
I just left a abusive, narcissist, much like that, the moment she realized, I no longer cared what she said or did she approach me at the only gym I go to 30 miles from her home and harassed me there when I called the police, she said she was in fear because I was interrupting her routine. She did not even have a membership and that was given in court, they did not care. She said she was afraid of me, and then I was coming there to find her yet I turned around from lifting to find that she had walked in after me and gotten a guest pass. She was there with some guy I knew that I taught Jiu Jitsu. She even used his cop status to attempt to back her story of me being nasty, I produced the gym surveillance video with sound which disproved her claim and the court still gave her a pfa because we just had that shooting in Lewiston Maine . I almost list my life over this. I called the police out of fear and yet I got punished
I'm sorry to read this man. How are you now? are you still in trouble for this woman?
Society of simps
It called the patriarchy - didn't you feel how everything was designed to benefit you as a man, when your ex made up shit and false accused you and everyone automatically believe her?
Stay strong brother and stop dating North American women!
10 years later my ex goes out her way to STILL talk about me on social media leaking our business it’s ridiculous.
You're the one that got away.
dodged a bullet tho
You're living rent free in her head...you won.
Can you do something about it? Was it defaming?
my mother has spend the huge majority of her life playing the victim until the day she left this world. I have seen first hand how evil self centered and manipulative women can be and I really wish she was an isolated case.
Jonah is not trying to control Her. She can do whatever She wants. He just does not want to be a part of it.
Yeah, but he was attracted to that from her social media. Then he tells her that she couldn't do that anymore...he was controlling in a passive aggressive way.
If u cant meet someones expectations breaking up is normal. Why is he not allowed to have a boundary. How many fucking boundaries do women have with men? A fucking lot@@eduardocruz4341
This all comes down to women wanting all the power in relationships
Yup
W o accountability
Legit defraud "family court" aka w e the x baby momma says is true but she can change aka amend and report co.plete lies and the man has proof. Just like false allegations ruining men and if and when they do get held accountable they let them go bc it's a women smh
@@ppputalawuea True although these woman aren't regular people, these are internet sex workers essentially & their input is usually valued the same way a crack head's views are valued.
And then destroy the relationship when you give it to them and blame you for it.
The fact this is a conversation at all blows my mind. The dude didn't want her doing something and gave her a choice to stay and comply or not and leave... Nothing else.
Those women don't respect the guidance of a man. The one sitting next to Sartain is unruly.
She sucks
Yeah who is that chick she’s been on a few times and isn’t polite
I dunno.@@edhog
Yeah……..her facial expressions and contempt are pretty annoying. He makes excellent points and she immediately has a rebuttal regardless of the logic. Fights for women whether they’re right or wrong….. no objectivity.
Yeah that same chick in another episode of this pod, tried to blame the male Podcasters in general becuz alot of women look really dumb on podcasts....as in it's the men's faults that women look bad on them.😂
Andrew Wilson had to bring up "why don't these women do any research on the podcasts before they go on them to be better prepared". Lol.and she literally still tried to argue that even. 😂😂😂.
While in that same episode of this same podcast, they went around the table and the male guests plus Rollo amd Sartsin were giving examples of how many hours of reseaech they were doing before they appeared on pods. AKA as in several hours of research...that woken will ever rarely do.. women on the other hand will watch a few clips amd that's it....
She is incredibly bad...
Geez, these women can't understand a simple topic 🤡
No, they don’t want to understand.
@@stevec3526because they don't have to understand and it benefits to keep the delusion going about the truth because all their power is is in the man not knowing his power(understanding women and willing to walk away at any point)
They're trying to defend their sisterhood of female privilege that permeates society. They're terrified of losing their privilege.
Men having boundaries is controlling and manipulative? This is the kind of gaslighting shit that keeps me single. Solitude rocks and I have time for my hobbies.
Time and money for your hobbies
Girl Got The HEAVIEZ. Could end world hunger by herself
Absolute milk maiden
What's her IG?
I’m scrolling up and down looking for a name
Jesse Preston is her name. The best part of her having those gorgeous twins is she knows what they do to men and carries herself accordingly, namely graceful and proud like a Royal bull elk carries his...ahem rack.
This video really gets to the juggs of the conversation with this whole jonah hill situation.
I was in continuous disbelief at the size of those
😂
When Jonah Hill's agent called and told him Quentin Tarantino wanted him to be in a Spaghetti Western, he was like, 'You had me at 'spaghetti.
Hats off to Jeff Ross 👏
Boundaries are not controlling. The person is still free to do whatever they want. But there will be consequences. You’re just making them aware of the consequences so that they can decide if they want to engage in the behavior.
How many times do women say a man's friends are a bad influence as if he can't make a decision? How about isolating him from friends? However, a woman rarely gets called out for doing that...she will walk away, get a pass..but not for the man...
There is some mad mad simpery going on. Jonah Hill was a 100% in his right. 304s talking about boundaries is rich. 😂😂😂
Be careful to your wife friends, especially single & broken 😅
She thought he was her break glass in case of approaching wall, last resort guy… but she read it wrong. She thought that she could leave, go play the field, have her fun, and that he would be waiting for her when it was over. She didn’t factor in that the dude is worth $70 million and there are plenty of women who find that very attractive. When he moved on, she realized that her insurance policy expired.
How come none of these girls seem to get it? Like, NOT at all? WTF?
They do but they don't want to since they don't have to and it benefits them not to
I'll say this...
Whenever men say something. MEN mean it, usually in a very up-front, direct, literal way...
WOMEN, when THEY say the same thing. Literally means 10 different things based on her emotional state at the time. So women will project the stuff they FEEL it means, over what the men meant when saying it.
Thats one of the biggest reasons communication between the two is so strained.
ROLLO LACKS THE ABILITY TO BE CONCISE
Because if he was concise he would not be impactful he needs to work on being impactfull and stop dragging his points because he likes to be heard
and not being concise is a shitty way to garner attention to make sure they are paying attention and receiving how about say something that grabs their attention and makes them beg for you to finish what you were going to say or to continue
The most important takeaway is that when people falsely accuse others of abuse, or try to spin reasonable discourse as abuse, it impairs the ability for actual abuse victims to get help. Please, let’s not ruin the progress we’ve made over the last 100 years by giving stage to people who “cry wolf”
This is a good discussion: boundaries vs controlling
Does the insecure line still work on any guy anymore? I don’t think any of us now change our behavior because a woman calls us insecure.
You need to get outside of this bubble every now and then and see how the majority of guys act. Most men are still clueless and will cave to shaming language
This is insane. If Hill wasn't happy with the rules of his relationship, he has every right to walk (which he did). The only thing I'm getting from this discussion is that you should never speak logically to women. A simple "this isn't working for me, good luck" or (if you want to gaslight the woman a bit) "I get the sense that you are not happy in this relationship, let's take some time apart to see where things are going" is all you need. Don't ask her to change on anything major. Women should just "get it" without being asked and, if she doesn't, she's not the right woman for you.
The fact they are defending hypothetical 304s is very telling.
These women did their level best to defend her and attack him. All these women are capable of this!
All I get from women is their boundaries are for protection men's boundaries are for controlling
Probably the first and only time I've seen Michael really push back against these degenerates? He usually lets them talk complete dribble. I like it
Mathew McConaughey was not in Point Break.
Thats crazy!! How are they arguing this.. he said i will break up if u keep doing this.. and he did.. nothing to argue about.
Old ass 304s don’t understand
Jonah Hill's life was not "ruined" he's currently working on a project with Keanu Reeves who's one of the biggest actors in the world. He also has something coming out on Netflix that he directed. Jonah Hill is a famous multi millionaire who dates women that are way more attractive than he'll ever be. He's got it made. Is his ex gf trying to get get clout by playing the victim? Absolutely. But let's not pretend like Jonah Hill's life is over. That's just hyperbolic nonsense.
Mr. Sartain trying to negotiate with terrorists. 😄
You mentioned programming twice, so I subscribed.
The double standard with these women is ridiculous! Can they not be objective?
Jonah was not stating a boundary, Jonah established his own limits.
Those expressions mean the same thing dude!
Bottom line...most women literally believe that not getting their way is abuse.
His life was not ruined. Everyone, even a lot of women agree that she is a drama queen and he came off rather well
Best advice I have, always avoided putting anything in writing, especially with my ex’s or about to be ex’s.
Do it in an unrecorded phone call, preferably in a state that requires 2 party consent to record said phone call.
With regards to not clubbing with the toxic friends. Its likely that Jonah Hill has seen it all.
He has probably seen married women been egged on at parties by their girlfriends to Smash the celebrity. He might have been the beneficiary to it as well.
Bingo. Being a celebrity he’s probably seen it all and understands female nature probably more than most men. As a moderately attractive guy, I’ve had experiences with women only to find out later that said woman is married and/or lies about being in an open marriage.
I had that Death Angel sticker on the back of my car window in 1988. Love it!
1000% she is at fault …WHY is this happening now?????
Imagine if this was OUR life? Boom, we break up, I get with another woman AND about to have a kid and you release this?
No, bro if anybody outside of this actually did this, they would be in a mental hospital
It’s called a double standard and they don’t like it being called out.
Thanks, Michael 🎉!
does not matter if sex workers are 304s in the past, their partners want them to be faithful, not thirsty while in a relationship
Weakness or not most men know that it's just so much easier to let her feel like she's leaving you because then she's LESS vindictive... notice I said less
My kids' mom called not letting her start smoking "controlling".
My instantaneous response: "you can smoke, you just can't smoke AND be with me." Pretty simple guys. She can pack her shit and kick rocks.
Women will protect their access to options with their last breath. Men’s arguments are completely irrelevant, instead men should have boundaries they enforce without arguing.
"Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far On Foot."
Does anyone have a problem with having the same punishment for false accusations as the crime supposedly committed?
A man could have a preponderance of evidence in his favor and a woman would still find fault in it! They’re constantly discrediting themselves in rational conversations!
Jesse got the HEAVIES
RESPECT is the word people don’t understand, if you’re in a relationship it’s about both of you not about being simple or alone anymore, what do people really want out of a relationship?
Can Jonah sue for defamation and slander?
How about putting the text on the screen so we can analyse it before arguing about it amongst yourself. I'd like a chance to read it in context before I take a side.
"The one with the people" 😂😂
20:29 that laugh is why she is single
When I read the text messages a while ago, I was left confused why I had to read them. I thought he gave her all the space and room to go if she didn't want to respect a preference/boundary of theirs. When men express boundaries in a relationship to a woman, it can ruin their reputation, even doing it in a healthy way with a therapist helping you process things.
How can men be told to express emotions and feelings in relationships, when the moment this is done, it doesn't become something to assist with or help with, it becomes ammunition for the future.
When was the last time something you said during a moment of expressing emotions was used against you? I hope it is never.
Them puppies are screaming free me ,my ghod like at&t reach out & touch someone! Lol 🎂
4:34 "Matthew McConaughey in Point Break"?
Did they redo this movie?
I remember Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze.
I don't recall Matthew McConaughey in that one.
who is shorty in the blue ? good lawd
Only bitter women who regret looseing a man does things like that 👎🏿👎🏿💯💯🤔🤦🏿♂️
This conversation is a good example of why Rollo sucks and Michael is the man, totally based. Rollo rides the fence, blames them both, says a bunch stuff in 10 minutes that could have been said in one, and despite his academic studies, has no idea what it is like in the modern dating world unless he's been cheating on his wife the last 20 years. Michael knows the scene and he knows his shit. So listen to Michael, not Rollo's word garbage. Jonah did nothing wrong. Once that girl became his girl, since he had status, she was expected to fall into his frame. She didn't. He handled it better than I would have, that's for sure.
He's a bit much ain't he sometimes
why do people say that the messages were "leaked"? they werent leaked, she posted them herself....
Yes, they were private messages that SHE leaked.
@@andrewmack2161 she posted them on insta. Leaking is if they're put online without her knowledge
@@troydyall6624 beside the 2 who could post them ?
@@ssppooppcristi6734 she posted her messages from her phone. Thats not a leak
jesus christ, they never fvcking listen, never...
THE LEVEL OF GASSLIGHTING
It’s interesting that in analyzing this whole thing and how wrong her behaviour is, the men on the panel still have to shit on Jonah and even belittle him as not setting boundaries but rather just a fat insecure A- celebrity. No matter how these situations go, there is always some blame to b thrown in the man’s direction by other men. Even if he simply walked out on the situation refusing to let himself b disrespected in anyway but not lashing back at her, men would still come out and claim he’s weak in some way.
This is true yall. I had an ex of almost 10 years who was doing witchcraft to try to hurt my cousin who was a female. Their was always a jealousy thing among them. She cheated on me and it went for a year or two. I found out and broke up with her. She moved into the new guys house the next day. I helped her move her stuff to her car along with my brother. I let her borrow my car for work and to hang with friends. Long story short. I’m with a wonderful women right now. She treats and respects me and I do the same back. Just recently my ex texted me saying how my girl now is doing witchcraft on me to have me fall in love with her. And also she made a onlyfans account and was using her pictures. Like what?!?!😂😂😂😂 bitches are crazy bro. They hate to see you happy lmao. To me it felt so good
I was getting in peoples ass about this. They swore up and down Jonah was a villain.
The funny thing is that woman says one thing but body shows another. Ready to go...
Just keep letting them talking over you😂
I’m starting to think we all need to get out of this whole victimhood thing I literally just be happy with yourself.
Of course these women in the panel are not going to agree with Jonah. How do they make their living?
THE FIRST THING A WOMAN DOES WHEN SHES IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH A GUY *iS SHE TRY'S TO START CHANGING HIM* .... that's a well known fact !
Dude should've just ghosted her ass and left it there.
could have gotten a false accusation out of spite....you gotta be real careful how you end things with these broads, they could completely ruin your life with one false claim. Thats why im not dating anymore. Couldnt imagine getting me Too'd over something i never did
21 & 22 jump Street was amazing.
She didnt ruin his life. She tried, but she failed.
Human life is so precious and we are spending most of our time saying - he did that or She did that - enjoy life - live fast - we don't have 1000s of years to live - if we are lucky we will make it to 80 years - life is too short for playing blame games for both men and women - get over it - get a life - there are other things to do in life than chase women or chase men
Sarah Brady is mid at best. She had her shot, she let her ego get in the way. Much respect to Jonah. Good women are still out there, she wasn’t one of them. To her I say, “Bitter much?”
Really??? I think setting his boundaries makes him very red pill. He was ready to walk away. I think Rollo is giving to little credit
So her husband one day just said "Hey babe??? Why don't you pose in Playboy.". 🤨
Every single one of these 304s will end up 50, single, with a beat up box. I know plenty, and the list is constantly growing
Guilelessness isnt something most women truly appreciate because they are so full of guile. Jonah made his feelings KNOWN. Youd think you appreciate knowing where someone stood so no one has to waste their efforts. Your internal space must be one hell of a waste land to not appreciate forthriteness.
Poor girl looks like she needs more chess support on my way. They look like they're about to fall out..😮😮
Why is Jonah getting shit on by men, I understand women because they don’t want men with boundaries
For clarity, this is my opinion. I feel, that if my girlfriend were to hang out with questionable people who have questionable morals, she would be more likely to do something questionable and immoral due to humans inate desire to fit in. Women being more social I feel are more influenced by others, which is why I have bounderies that I not only set, hold myself to the same standard.
She agrees man should have a choice to support. But once that baby is here and she finds out she can get a extra thousand plus a month without working for it. She'll change her mind. There again women are the gate keepers.
She got in her feeling and let her anger take over she is wrong as Hell plan and simple !!!
Glasses talks like he knows anything about anything
Holy fuck who is the girl with the heavies in the blue?
All these women up here complaining and defending the other female for her doings. When at the end of the day, it's all about respect. The man needs to be respected period just like the man respects his woman to be a woman respect very strong word. And actions, people do not understand what respect is. When you love your partner, you respect him just like the man that loves his woman, he respects his woman. Nobody in here is talking about the word respect. Because everybody's caught up in the media world. Not understanding what respect is