What We Want Out Of A Dive Computer - Sidemounting.com
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ส.ค. 2024
- In this lesson we go through everything we believe divers want in a dive computer and what features we would like to see developed in the future. We also give you our updated feedback after using transmitters consistently for well over 1 year and share their pros and cons with you.
00:00 Basic Items We Want To See
01:19 Features For Technical Divers
03:42 Improving The Screen Layouts
05:29 Transmitter Layout Concerns
07:37 Smart Phone Layout Features
09:21 Thoughts on Swift Transmitters
11:51 Transmitters Distance Issue
15:00 Benefits of Using Transmitters
17:37 Do Transmitters Make You Lazy
18:58 Shearwater SAC and GTR
22:54 Transmitters Should Do More!
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I think a lot of the readability, even with a ton of info on the screen, comes down to correct grouping.
You can use the Mini displays on the Perdix and Petrel to show non-essential information, and keep the vital info as large values.
The top row isn't configurable (though you can force NDL to be displayed on the top right):
* Depth - Time - Surface/NDL/Deco/Safety
The bottom row you can choose between 4 permanent displays:
* Mode - O2/HE - NDL - TTS
* Compass
* T1/2/3/4 - GTR - SAC
* Tissues
That leaves the center row that you can fully configure. The center is always a large value, and the sides you can configure as Minis.
I personally keep the ppO₂ in the center, which is an important value to keep track of, and it also serves as an MOD.
I would suggest displaying related information per Mini. Don't put random data in there because that can make it hard to understand.
There are different TTS values that you can group together: TTS, @+5, Δ+5, GTR, RTR. All in minutes.
There are different depth values you can group together: MOD, Ceiling, MaxDepth, AvgDepth. All in feet or meters.
There are different tissue loading values you can group together: GF99, SurfGF, CNS. All in percentages.
Other values can clutter your display when grouped together in Minis, like:
* Ascent rate (ft/min or m/min)
* Density (g/l)
* Gradient Factors (Lo/Hi)
* Compass heading (°)
* ppO₂ (fraction)
* Clock (hh:mm)
* Timer (mm:ss)
* Temperature (°F or °C)
* SAC (psi/min or bar/min)
* Tank pressure (psi or bar)
I would recommend keeping these in a large format if you're using them, or keep them in the NDL mini so they're out of the way.
The way I've set mine up is:
Depth - Time - Surface/NDL/Deco/Safety
[GF99/SfGF/CNS] - ppO₂ - [TTS/Δ+5//RTR]
T1 - [GTR/SAC] - T2
I would love it if we could customize the screen by moving stuff around and having “pages”. I understand how it can be hard to configure in the computer itself, but maybe they can leverage the phone app to make the customizations there and then the user can push the layout to the computer via BT.
Great video thanks for sharing this very insightful content on a very interesting aspect of dive computer UI and gas work! Love it and can't wait to see the future progressions as we the divers and developers mature into what the technology is capable of. Often times we seem to think the bottle neck in growing the capabilities of a technical system is based on the electronics side however on this discussion I think its more about generations of old thinking divers timid to embrace moving forward with the advancement of technology. Let's face it we are already zipping around in our automobiles at 80 MPH and its all "drive by wire" from steering, breaking and acceleration. We have grown accustomed to trusting technology in some activities more than others it seems yet all practices carry the same deadly consequences. There is also the side of the discussion where the size of the user group plays a lot on the financial capability of any company to invest in the required work it takes to design and implement the desired changes. For example the amount of employees Apple employs vs Shearwater is night and day to say the least without even looking up the numbers...
thanks guys, a very interesting video
Thanks a lot. Loved to hear that discussion. Greetings from Munich
Great discussion. thank you. I totally agree and wish the screens were more customizable.
Nice video, good tips on the screen layouts!
Fantastic video guys, thank you! I was actually just about to ask for this one in my review of the Sidemount Masterclass course. I have a Perdix 2 with two Swift transmitter diving Sidemount, I have from time to time gotten a Coms Error, usually on the right transmitter (the computer being on my left arm) but once or twice I’ve even gotten a drop on the left tank. At one occasion I even got a complete coms failure, I had backup SPGs and I was diving at less than 10 meters, so I could finish the dive. But after a minute or two, the readings came back and were correct.
I guess the two questions I still have after this video are: 1. What do you think about backup SPGs, providing value or introducing an extra potential point of failure? And if you would have them, would you recommend one of those HP-port splitters, in order to get a better hose routing going the same direction backwards from the first stage? And 2. I noticed that in this video, your transmitters were screwed directly into the 1st stage, you didn’t use one of those 15 cm HP extension hoses, in order to kind of protect the transmitter from physical damage. Should I or shouldn’t I use one of those?
Once again thanks for great material!
Thanks for feedback Michael, personal I am going to use one or the other transmitter or SPG (not both). For now I am very happy with the transmitters, there have been a few swifts I have had that failed due to the OPV (over pressure release) valve popping out but those where replaced by Shearwater. Using both is more an issue of clutter around the valve for me, as long as I know the pressure of my cylinders at start of dive, if I had a totally failure of transmission I know how long I can breath each cylinder for so I would not be too concerned with it personally. I just screw mine into the 1st stage directly and not with a HP extension hose. Vas did use a hose as explained in video for trimix diving when he did not have drysuit feed on 5th port on right side 1st stage. I made this Facebook post a while ago, read the comments many people have commented and will help you further facebook.com/sidemounting/posts/pfbid025oEzopJ9jRkekVrvxNAQkJasjzabphNyNzP1AspnhSb9GoXJp23g4xERZ1basANsl Regards, Steve
@@sidemountscubadiving Thank you very much for that informative answer! Please pass on my thanks to Vas as well!
Its a pity you can not get press on lens for the perdix make them for dive masks a silicon cover would stop it falling off if it came loose wouldn't need to be to thick
Transmitters (Swift) + drysuit heating (Santi) don't works together well. Heating is jamming transmission and you are loosing signal from both sides the moment you turn on the heating.
That is good to know, not something we have really tested. I will mention this to Shearwater and their thoughts on this. We will try to test this ourselves towards the end of the year when it gets cold again.
If you can't clearly ready a dive computer then get an Rx prescription dive mask otherwise what business do you have diving if you can't clearly determine 600 from 800. At fifty yeas of age I already have my third Rx dive mask being produced as we speak. No excuse for not bing able to read a dive computer, eyeglass technology has been out way longer than tiny dive computers 🤿🤓🤙 Point being anyone at the technical level of diving should invest in proper Rx dive mask if needed. The four hundred dollars is noting compared to the rest off our gear!