Band of Brothers Ep.7 "The Breaking Point" REACTION!
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"I went over to Toye and Guarnere; their legs were badly mangled. Bill was sitting up, holding his leg, and it was jerking up and down. He calmly looked up at me and said "Lip, they got ole' Guarnere this time." He had been hit before, but they really got him there." - Carwood Lipton
I put that in my edit that I'm working on and I kept crying 🥺
Aye it’s Mr. Akkerman himself.
I thought Toye's remark "What's a guy gotta do to get killed around here?!" after he was hit was a pretty funny comeback.
The moment where Winters literally grips his rifle and starts running out into the open to take over the lead of the attack because he just cannot BEAR to stand by and watching all the Easy men getting killed one by one, combined with him being called back and then just straight up *ignoring* his superior, being so unusually loud and emotional and riled up and then calling upon Speirs and sending him in, combined with Speirs ultimate badassery afterwards, is one of my favourite moments of the entire show. Heartbreak, chills, and utter awe combined.
Frank John Hughes talked to Bill Guarnere on the phone before filming that last scene and Guarnere tapped the receiver to demonstrate the rhythm of how his mangled leg twitched.
Holy shit........ that's what I call a fun fact.
@@AdamBorseti - The other moment I loved was FJH’s account of the first time he met Bill Guarnere. Bill flew to England to visit the BoB set and Frank went to meet him at the airport, dressed in a full WWII paratrooper dress uniform. He stood at attention as Bill deplaned.
Bill said, “Hiya, kid” as he crutched right past him to head outside to light up a cigarette.
Absolute legend.
The "white caps on their helmets" thing was not an official camo cover. Those are actually bedsheets taken from civilians' houses. Not every soldier was able to get their hands on bedsheets, so that's why you don't see everyone with a white helmet cover.
The camoflage (sp?) whites didn't arrive til much later in the Battle of the Bulge when the troops almost didn't need them. Just another illustration of how much the Germans caught the Allies by surprise. The Allies thought it would be a quiet winter...but nope.....
Only a buffoon would call Bill Guarnere a buffoon!!!! What's wrong with you?
Lieutenant Dike actually won two Bronze Stars, one in Bastogne on January 3, 1945. In the attack on Foy he apparently did fall apart, it is strange to think how he could exhibit bravery and then have such a problem. Here's the full info for whoever is interested.
In the series, Lieutenant Dike is portrayed as being an incompetent coward. However, in real life he performed many acts of heroics. Dike was awarded a Bronze Star for his action at Uden, Holland, with the 101st Airborne Division between 23 and 25 September 1944, in which he “organized and led scattered groups of parachutists in the successful defense of an important road junction on the vital Eindhoven (sic)-Arnhem Supply Route against superior and repeated attacks, while completely surrounded."
Dike was awarded a second Bronze Star for his action at Bastogne, in which "he personally removed from an exposed position, in full enemy view, three wounded members of his company, while under intense small arms fire" on 3 January 1945. In preparation for the 13 January 1945 attack on Foy, Belgium, E Company was attached to the 3rd Battalion, 506th PIR. Division Headquarters ordered the attack to begin at 0900 hours. During the assault, Carwood Lipton, at that time the company's first sergeant, described Dike as having "fallen apart." Clancy Lyall stated that he saw that Dike had been wounded in his right shoulder and that it was the wound, not panic, that caused Dike to stop. Dike survived the assault, and eventually returned to the rear in the company of a medic. Afterwards, he was transferred to 506th Regimental Headquarters to become an assistant operations officer. Dike then moved on to become, as a captain, an aide to General Maxwell Taylor, Commanding General, 101st Airborne Division. He later served in the Korean War.
Alot of people take this series as fact. But it's based on what the veterans of easy remember. How they felt. For example ya this. Dike wasn't what he was made out to be in the series and Blith didnt die in ... what episode 3? He survived. Served in Korea. But because no one from Easy company or the 501st ever heard from him after he got hit, they assumed he died. But he died in,if memory serves, the late 60s or early 70s.
All that being said, Dick Winters had a less than favorable opinion of him, and didn't mince words about it in interviews.
@@gravitypronepart2201 true. And I'm not saying he was a good CO. I'm just saying that certain facts are not entirely ture between the series and history
I think what a lot of people fail to realize (or give proper credit to) Dike hit his breaking point at Foy much as Compton did during the shelling in the woods. Those breaking points manifested in different ways. That's not to say that Norman Dike was a superb leader - just that he deserves a little more sympathy than he gets.
All that says is that Dike had a fairy godfather in the senior command that helped make sure his boy got a good record for after the war. He may not have done anything but sit in a hole and scream, but official after-action reports can be edited when someone high enough rank wants it done.
Not all that unusual in the army, even to this day.
Years later, when some of the E company members were in Bastogne for a reunion, one of them asked one of the German soldiers why they didn't just come over and wipe them out since they outnumbered Easy. The German said, "Eagle Heads over there. No one wanted to go fight the Eagle Heads." He was referencing the Eagle Head patch they had on their uniforms. In Foy when they checked the sniper that Shifty Powers killed, they found that he was shot between the eyes. Also, the run Spiers made was a true story.
nice info
One line I love is from Roe that I don’t think I noticed until I’d watched several times. As he’s tending to Hoobler he tries to joke with him. “Didja think it was a German leg, Hoob?” 😭
I always thought he said "..THE German leg, implying he was half German. That was my guess. Or am I missing something..?
@@eddiecollison - You might be right. Everyone is talking at once in that scene so it’s hard to tell.
@@eddiecollison You are correct. American of German ancestry.
Wild Bill did a lot of interviews and returned to Bastogne and their foxholes and you can still find them on youtube
Lt. Shames, the man yelling and screaming in that rather humorous cutaway, is the last surviving member of East Company, still kicking around today. After the war he served with the Army Reserves and retired at the rank of Colonel!
I believe there's actually an other Easy man still living, PFC Bradford Freeman while not in the series is still alive at the age of 96
He died December 3 2021. RIP
The cruel irony of Buck Compton's character hearkens back to Episode 1, where Winters was admonishing him for gambling with the men. While the point of that scene was that, as an officer, Compton should never put himself into a position where he could take from his soldiers, the unspoken rule (and the one that Buck should have followed) was that he should not have gotten too close to the men, because an officer should always maintain a professional relationship with his underlings so that they can function in combat. Buck was a great combat leader and a fantastic friend, but that was his Achilles heel.
Officers also got moved around a lot between companies as the need arose so it was a good idea to not get attached to the men on a personal level. That was difficult to do. I had a friend who was an Army officer back in the 80's and in regular life he is a hands-on type of guy. He said it was tough when he had to monitor the non-coms doing real work and, as an officer, he couldn't get in there with them...for the most part...and get his own hands dirty. You had keep that "distance" from the men.
Spiers was the officer who run through Foy. However, the Purple Heart is given out for being wounded in combat so I think you meant another decoration for bravery.
In Dike's defense, he was actually wounded at the very beginning of the assault and him "freezing" was in fact his body going into shock. He was a lousy company commander but he was not the coward the show suggested he was. He was taken out of line right after Foy and the soldiers of Easy did not know that he was wounded.
He also never went to the reunions so their impressions were never corrected.
That scene in the church at the end always gets me. Almost like the ghosts of everyone they lost are still sitting next to their brothers and listening to the choir, not knowing they've died...
Word to the wise: BUY that Band of Brothers & Pacific BOX SET. After finishing these, you’ll want to rewatch them every so often. I watch them both about every two years to remind myself how good I have it.
I second that. I gave my DVD box sets to a friend and bought the Blu Ray box set. It is awesome and I watch both series about every two years as well. It seems like a good interval between re-watches.
@@andreraymond6860 i third that, my uncle was in the army and him and my dad owned the DVD box set of Band of Brothers, this time last year I watched it for the first time, I was 14 and have been super super invested in war, ESPECIALLY WW2 for years. War films have pretty much been the only films/series I’ve watched in a couple years now, when i watched band of brothers for the first time I was blown away and it immediately shot up to the top list of absolutely anything I’ve watched. Im now 15 and I watched it pretty much the very start of this year in January and I’m watching it again next weekend which I’m obviously super super excited for.
Fun fact, Damian Lewis’s parents also live down the road from me here in wales, and my parents have seen Damian around before, whereas i haven’t :( He spends his time in England however with, well his wife who if you didn’t hear, passed away the other month unfortunately and his 2 kids. I hope he comes down wales soon to see his parents because I’d love to see him.
Sorry, I’m going to be spamming this post with comments.
Another bit I loved was when Buck reached back and put his hand over the letter to stop Malarkey reading. And it’s such great direction that you can see in the corner of the screen how Malarkey tucks the letter into Buck’s pocket and then his hands just clasp together and he stays. Just sits quietly with his friend.
Such a brilliant episode.
I have a question, how come the whole things inverted? Or is that just me? Lemme know
I know I also do love that scene, couldn’t imagine in real life seeing two of his best friends with their legs torn off, pretty much looking dead and having to get on with his life with that in his head
@@rhysevans4253 - I think it’s so it doesn’t get flagged for copyright violation.
Speirs was one crazy badass, there really are some epic stories about him and most of them are probably true. Also you'd think how he became the leader of Easy is fictionalized or at least exaggerated but Speirs really was literally the first officer of appropriate rank (not that there probably were many) Winters happened to see -- and off he goes like an eager Terminator puppy and saves the day.
What he did not actually do is give Blithe that speech about being already dead back in 'Carentan' -- real Speirs took a bit of offense at that one -- but it was there to help set up the whole 'Legend of Speirs' arc, I suppose.
The writers carefullly set up his 'character' from the second episode on. He shows up in the middle of Brecourt to volunteer to take out the last gun. The look of bemusement on Winters' face is precious. He kills the prisoners off screen so as to set up his ambiguous legend among the men of the battalion. He gives that weird talk to Blithe. He just keeps popping in seemingly at random. In Breaking Point he shows up just as the men are talking about him and offers them cigarettes. They all look up at him as though he is a ghost and not a single one of them takes him up on his offer. Hilarious!
And it ain't over!
That really happened. Ronald Speirs really did that. And because Stephen Ambrose interviewed the real surviving members of Easy company, a lot of the dialogue on the show is literally what they actually said. Like Wild Bill telling Lipton "they got ole' Guarnere this time" after he lost his leg, or Joy Toy, "What's a guy gotta do to get killed around here?!"
Insane.
Also, after you finish BOB, you should watch the 1-hour HBO documentary We Stand Alone Together (it's on TH-cam)r, which is where they interviewed all the Easy company members (ones still alive) and it's where they got the talking heads for each episode from.
It was Spiers who sprinted through the Germans and then assigned to be the leader of Easy for the rest of the war. He was a legend. If you search for Bill Guarnere on You Tube you will find that he made a bunch of videos on You Tube up until his death -- some with Babe Heffron, some with other living members of Easy. Some in Europe retracing his journey through Europe. He and Babe Heffron wrote a book together that is quite good.
The Ardennes Forest scenes were all filmed inside a large hanger in England. That's probably why you dont see wide shots.
To this day you can stand in the same spot Shifty was when he took out the German sniper. When you see the distance his shot had to cover you are awe-struck by how accurate his shot was.
But, remember, his daddy was a better shot than him!
According to Carwood Lipton the run that Speiers made to hook up with Item Company was far longer than the show portrayed and he was under much heavier fire.
Yeah, I remember hearing that it was about a mile. And apparently he didn’t expect to survive, but went anyway. Hey, sometimes you’re just in the zone.
Speirs always makes me so fucking proud to be Scottish (he was born in Edinburgh).
Last standing POW camp:
I know there's a former POW camp near the town of Crossville, Tennessee, although it's not preserved in historical condition. At some point after the war, it was acquired by the youth organization 4-H and converted into a summer camp for kids, but it still has the original buildings.
The Spiers run through the Germans is one of the most inspiring scenes I’ve seen, I watched BOB when it first came out and that scene alone inspired me to join the military, so glad you showed appreciation to it as I think everyone should see it and know that a real person did that! Ronald Spiers is a boss and that is true courage! I know you’ve watched all the episodes now and I’m glad you enjoyed it but did you watch the documentary that comes with the box set?
Speaking of blu-ray , I would love to see your reaction to the documentary of Easy company - basically an hour of the veteran interviews like the beginning of each episode.
Spiers doesn't appear to have been given anything for his actions in Foy. He did receive the Silver Star which is the 3rd highest decoration for Valor in the US military. But that was for an earlier event in the Netherlands. He did get a purple heart for being wounded in battle but that was also not in Foy.
Interestingly Spiers was later appointed as the Governor of Spandau Prison which is the prison in West Berlin where several prominent nazi's were held after the Nuremberg trials.
Dude! I'm from Bowmanville, too (now living in Toronto).
I attended St. Stephen's high school in the '90s when it was located at the former Camp 30 site. That was my school campus for 5 years (gr. 9 to OAC). SSHS later moved across town to a permanent modern building and the Camp 30 site had a few other owners after they left before falling into disrepair, sadly. I have lots of memories of that place!
But wow, small world. I've been enjoying your BoB reactions and had no idea you were from my hometown.
No way thats insane! Feel free to approach me and say hi if you ever bump into me!
@@LukeParon Right on, will do!
By the way, crazy how accurate the show is with everything. Speirs climbing the wall and narrowly evading a bullet is really how it happened. According to eye-witness reports, bullets missed him by like a second or two. Insane
The one who sprinted through enemy lines was Spiers. He went to link up with American forces on the other side. Afterwards, he ran right back without a scratch.
Yes, the guy running through the Germans was Spiers. He is the one who allegedly shot the German PoWs on D-day (Ep 2), he also shot one of his own sergeant's (conflicted story: either they were drunk or refusing an order). He is also the one who climbed out of the trench in Ep 2 to clear the last gun at Brecourt Manor and told Blithe to accept he was already dead. Clearly a man with a unique outlook on life/war.
There was talk, at the time, of disciplinary action towards him due to his dubious actions (PoWs) but they decided they needed people like him in the war.
The Sgt was apparently both drunk AND refusing an order AND threatened Speirs AND drew his gun to menace him. As it turns out, that was a really bad decision. Spears swung up his Tommy gun and filled him in, and reported it to his CO who apparently was convinced it was self-defence. He was killed the next day and didn’t get around to writing it up officially before he died, and no successor ever bothered with it. I guess they had more important things to do, or Speirs came by and casually offered them a cigarette.
"How did they light this show," you ask...all of the Ardennes Forest snow/winter scenes were actually shot indoors, on a huge soundstage. All the trees were fake, the snow was fake, and the building was even refrigerated so you would see the actors' breath. and being indoors meant that they had absolute control over the lighting conditions at all times.
It was Spears that sprinted
Spiers is the real life Captain America
If the battle of the bulge had happened at any other time of year, Toye and Guarnere would have bled out. It was apparently cold enough to slow the blood flow to the exposed wounds.
He's a South Philly legend and hero.......far from a buffoon.
Answering the explosive and leg questions:
For the white explosions, that's mostly more accurate. Most films use 'low explosives' to create the big orange firey bursts because they look cool, but the military mostly uses high explosives because they generate so much more force. The quick white burst of artillery shells is one example of such explosives, because they're designed to kill through concussive force and shrapnel, not burning things.
For the legs, often (though not always) because of how hot those artillery shells in flight and detonation, they can actually cauterize the wounds they cause, meaning that so long as you're not shredded by shrapnel (which is normally what kills you) there's a chance you might actually get *relatively* little bleeding (you know, for a missing limb). It's not 100%, and those two were EXTREMELY lucky, but that's how their legs could be blown off and yet not bleed out.
Fun fact about the lighting in the scenes at night where they are getting shelled:
All done indoors on a soundstage in England where they shot the series. The special effects people built all the trees and rigged some to safely explode with bits of foam so the actors and stunts people wouldn't get seriously hurt. I think everything was timed to go off at certain times.
Fun fact also it was apparently hotter than shit in that soundstage so with the winter coats and everything they're wearing - everyone is sweating to death. I think the charge into Foy at the end of the episode was done outside on a backlot with those buildings having been built up and green screens for VFX to blend in more forest and sky and whatnot.
Lipton (Donnie Wahlberg) taking a ricochet in the face was an accident on the day and they kept it in.
Speir got seriously injured in a parachute jump because the weight of his balls overcame the parachute.
There is no creative license being taken in even the smallest details. The books are incredible!
I wasn’t sure about you in the beginning lol... but now I think you’re one of the best reaction channels on TH-cam! This man is smart! I’m used to people with -30 IQs reacting 🤦♂️
I try to say more than just "damn that's crazy" haha
Also, Dick Winters in an I interview I saw a while back stated that Speirs did in fact admit to him that he had killed the German Prisoners. A reason wasn't given.
They just couldn't afford the men to guard them at the time.
I thought I read that during the D-Day invasion, the Allied forces literally had a 'Take No Prisoners' order, meant to keep all their personnel pushing forward to their objectives. Prisoners use up manpower and resources, which were extremely limited in those crucial first days. So yeah, if that's accurate, it explains Spiers shooting them (if he did).
@@MadTheDJ that would never have been an official order as it would have been a war crime for a start and while the allies won they still did prosecute things like that during and after the war from their own side. An example from Sicily comes to mind where two people executed a load of prisoners on a perceived order or interpretation of a speech. Senior officers went nuts when they more or less found out. Would need to find the reference out though
@@jameswg13 You're correct, such a thing would have been a war crime. It's a widely discussed topic among historians, though. I can't say whether it was or wasn't true, was official or unofficial, but if that was the understanding on the ground that day, it would explain the shooting of those prisoners, be it by Spiers or whomever else.
If it's not true, if no such order existed in any form, and if Spiers did pull the trigger, yeah, that's something else entirely.
War is hell.
@@MadTheDJ war is hell true but the would have been no official order that's for sure. I need to double check in one of my books but Patton and one of the reasons he was moved to Normandy campaign and never given higher command at time might have had something to do with something said about prisoners or what led to an incident. I know for sure he was moved because of his treatment of those that were wounded suffering from shell shock etc.
It never gets old watching people see Speirs in action. Curra-fuckin-hee
So for context The Battle of the Bulge was Germany's last offensive in the war. Hitler put everything he had in an attempt to push through the ardennes and entrap the allies Just like he did in the beginning of the war. This created a large bulge in the battle line hence the name. Multiple divisions got cut off and surrounded by the advancing wehrmacht. The Americans were essentially surrounded. The 101st had no time they were sent immediately to reinforce the broken lines. To make matters worse the winter was the coldest winter on record at the time and there was no cold weather provisions provided. The men had little weapons or ammunitions so it was take what you can situation. It was mentioned a couple of last episode that supplies that were airdropped missed their marks due to poor visibility and mobile aa fire. The germans had cold weather provisions but were also running low on food and ammunition as well. The eastern front had taken its toll. This was the last flicker of the candle. There was just not nearly enough food, manpower, fuel, armor, and weapons to complete the objective.
Luger's were notorious for going off when bumped in the holster. After the early years they switched to Walther P.38 which were safer
plus I heard it actually went off as he was trying to climb a fence
The show said it was a Luger, but the real incident it was a Belgian FN1900 .32 calibre pistol which didn't have a safety and were notorious for just firing off rounds.
bro george luz 🤣 “i’m gonna go for.. HeLp” 🤣🤣
Luke, are you familiar with the song in the church? It's an 18th century song. "Plaisir D' Amour ". The melody sounded familiar when I first heard it, so I looked it up and Elvis used it in his song; "I Can't Help Falli g in Love With You".
If you really love this music, you have to see “Band of Brothers - LBM (Limburgs) Jeugdorkest olv Björn Bus” . It’s an orchestra from the Netherlands, Limburg. Love this one 😍
Crazy to think these last two episodes were filmed in an unlikely place.
Peacock was of the platoon leaders. Most Lieutenants are those. Then Captains command the Company. I would absolutely recommend reading the Ambrose book. It really helps identifying the characters, goes into much more detail....and if you watch the series again...you will definitely follow the names much more clearly. It helped me big time.
Demolitions dude here if you want clarification on the white explosions. The explosions are more realistic than most but not perfect. What people don't understand how fast military explosions are, and they don't make good cinema. There is a fireball, but its over with so fast you need slowed down footage to actually see it (thermobarics aside). What it actually looks like is an instantly appearing large dirty black/grey cloud, with lifted earth around it. The sound is not really a boom if you are close enough. Its a short overwhelming crack that rips the air as the shockwave breaks the sound barrier. To give an example, the speed of sound is 343m/s. The initial speed of a common military explosive (not going to name types) is 8750m/s. So the blast wave is initially going a bit over Mach 25.
If I were to make a guess, they likely are using low power explosive charges or pyrotechnics to make these effects. We use them in training to simulate explosions while you are nearby, while having low blast and no fragmentation. The white smoke suggests its a commercial lifting explosive use for mining, so a lot slower than the military stuff.
Summary - Military explosions don't look like much and make poor cinema. Everything happens too fast to capture, but if you've been near one its way more terrifying.
So glad that you have liked this series and I have LOVED your "Boys" reactions. Keep up the great work brother!
You should watch The Expanse. It is the best sci-fi show out there right now and it also has an unskippable opening credits. :)
I'm reading the book soon then on to the show!
@@LukeParon Since the books authors are in the show's writing room, it is really interesting to compare how their choices make the show different from the books.
think it was the 50th Anniversary of the Battle of the Bulge reenacment at Fort Indaintown Gap in PA and we had the whole crew of E/506th Troopers in the barracks with us, as we sitting around listening and drinking 1 of our troopers tells Wild Bill that he was going to tour their old position and then asked if their was anything he could bring back for him . Bill lowers his beer and looks right at him and says "Yeah, if you can find my leg that would be great" we all busted out laughing . at that same event the public battle part was done real bad to the point that all the Airborne units sat in the tree line and refused to take part. but as they were walking back german PW's i said screw it and went out a pop a few of them (the Germans took their hits on Q and it looked real good ) i got some flak for it. but as we were leaving the field all the E/506th vets came up asking WTF!! was that shit show. but Guarnere comes up to me and shacks my hand saying "Sarg, that was the only fucking thing that was accurate, good job, i killed every german i found." later that night when we were good and drunk we had a real good talk about that and how it came back to haunt him after the war till he made peace with it. god those were fun days with those Troopers. ever time i watch this show i remember those times.
I think that Speirs believed that you "never do what your enemy expects " and they never would have thought him running in the middle of town Infested by German soldiers would have ever happened so we went right through them. It was a risk but it through them off guard. And the shocking thing is his run was a lot longer than they depicted in the film. I don't know why they did that I would assume because no one would ever have believed he would have actually done that and survived but it was true. The entire run was like a half mile through the town full of Germans
Literally probably one of the greatest human moments ever recorded
@@LukeParon Richard Winters asked Speirs once if it was all true or not all the rumors, and he said yes. Nowadays they probably would have court marshaled him but they needed capable experienced soldiers.. and considering that a lot of the German soldiers especially the SS will cut your balls off and hang you by a telephone pole if they captured you probably helped Ronald's avoid a lot of issues. When you see your buddy getting blown up you don't care about things like war crimes against an evil enemy. Germans in the latter part of the war were guilty of many massacres against unarmed pows
Arteries obviously vary in size. Your largest being the ones right next to the heart and traveling down the body. The femoral artery in your upper leg is the largest one supplying any of the extremities. And they get smaller as they go down the leg. So getting the entire bottom half of your leg blown off, as horrific as it would appear, is still not as bad as severing your femoral artery. Its also much easier to stop bleeding to those lower extremities with a tourniquet, where as its much more difficult to do the same on the femoral artery because of where its located.
It was actually malarkey who ran out in the middle of the battle on d-day to look for a Luger. Hoobler was the one who died after actually getting one in this episode
Irl dike was actually a good soldier. Hr recieved 2 bronze stars in the battle of the bulge for rescuing soldiers. I heard he wasnt a decent leader though. He was in the thick of it he just didnt know how to organize his men. He was unable to lead the attack on foy as he was in shock from being shot in the arm.
There are some pretty good videos on German POWs in North America and the impact it had on some of their lives.
8:50 Winters has three problem officers under him you see at 6:52: Shames the loud one, Peacock the not very good one and Norman Dike, the bad one. Nixon giving his leave to Peacock fixes one of the three problem officers.
There's a video somewhere around youtube that shows the exact corner where Shifty took the shot against the sniper. You should look it up because it was really an impressive shot.
About how people can survive a traumatic amputation. The arteries have muscles that contract to hinder the rate of bleeding. This only works if/when the whole artery/extremity is cut/severed, hence why the guy that shot himself bleed out so fast. But as with anything written on the internet, don't take this as fact without checking because I just vaguely remember something about this from my anatomy teacher a few years ago.
In reference to the leg amputations, it is common in this situation for the leg muscles to clamp and provide a tourniquet effect for some time that allows enough chance for a medic to apply an actual tourniquet.
I always wondered why the whole thing is inverted? Can someone please let me know how and if it happened to everyone else and it wasn’t just my phone?
You need to watch the documentary 'We stand alone together' it's really good!
Little bit of trauma and anatomy here the reason probably why losing a leg didn’t end in death while the single shot did. Is because likely the explosion if it was close would have cauterized the wound and closed off some bleeding. The bullet wouldn’t have been hot enough to cauterized the exit wound.
I've been thoroughly enjoying watching you watch this for the first time. I watch it twice a year, DDay week and Pear Harbor day week. You should definitely read the book and as many of the books by the menu as you can. Can't wait to see your reaction to episode nine. I cry every time, I use parts of it in my classroom actually and it always makes am impact.
I'm definitely reading "Beyond the Band of Brothers" by Dick Winters
There's one by Bill and Babe and I swear I could hear their voices in my head while I read it from their bus at the beginngs of these episodes and the full documentary. Malarky and Compton have good books too.
@@LukeParon please don't skip the first book by Ambrose. Both are pretty quick reads. The Beyond book is a sort of rebuttal to the Ambrose book. The author just wanted to add details that were left out at the time of Ambrose's writing and at the time they made the series.
When I saw this episode, I had gotten a little confused because Malarkey had ran out in the open to grab a Luger in Ep #2, but this episode it was Hoobs wanting one since Day 1. It was a trophy the men coveted. On another reactor's video, I'm told Germans often kept these guns loaded with one in the chamber, and had a different safety system than Americans were familiar. It caused a few misfires among the allies.
Interesting. I've lived in many places around the world and I've become pretty good at identifying accents. I was trying to pinpoint your accent. I knew it was Southern Ontario, near Toronto but not quite Toronto. Glad to know I was in the right direction. (Hello from Toronto, btw)
Haha well done mate!
Also shoutout to Walder Frey
Thank you for advising of camp 30. Fascinating.
It was a nice touch adding the info of the pow camp at the start. Its a shame that you say they are demolishing it though. We have one here in the UK that is still standing. I don't know if it's the last, but I do know its been converted into a pretty decent museum.
They are demolishing most of it, and destroying all of the interiors sadly and making stupid modern industrial looking office spaces inside the, Up till now the original interiors from WWII had remained.
Yes, that was Spears. He's badass.
You are a goat reactor, keep doing war movies and videos like these.. Youre already one of my favorites
As other people have pointed out, this series was based primarily on a book that itself was based on the memories and stories told by the soldiers themselves. Unfortunately, this means that if the soldiers were unaware of something, it never showed up in the series. Also, if the soldiers had a positive and/or negative view of something, it was portrayed in a more positive and/or more negative way than reality reflected.
I say this because -- as other people pointed out -- First Lieutenant Norman Dike is portrayed in a way that wasn't totally accurate. The show depicts him as a prima donna and a coward who, during the attack on Foy, issues confusing, contradictory orders and stalls the attack, getting good men killed due to his own incompetence.
While Dike was never the best officer, the truth was that Dike had been shot twice in the chest very early in the attack. His confused collapse and incoherent breakdown during the battle was caused by blood loss and shock. The heavy cold-weather gear he had been wearing hid the fact that he had two bleeding chest wounds from his fellow soldiers, who merely assumed Dike was just being Dike again. The truth wasn't found out until Dike had been evacuated to the nearest aide station after the invasion of Foy was over, and none of the men of Easy Company -- up to and including Richard Winters -- were never informed.
It's true that in the POW camps in North America the German prisoners were treated very well and were given a lot of food and activities to pass the time, while the POW camps for American soldiers in Europe... were not so kind, The difference was that people living in America and guarding the camps were very remote from the war, so they felt more inclined to treat prisoners as people, while in Europe that wasn't the case...
From my understanding Lt Peacock was considered very by the book and out of his depth. In real life Winters didn't choose him for the furlough back to the States, he came second in the lottery behind Nixon.
Regarding the main title music: MIchael Kamen wrote the score for every bit of the series except the classical piece that is sung by a chorus in this episode (which I think was by Beethoven ?). The score was released on CD on Sony Classical as a series of 10 to 16 minute suites, split by episodes. Much later someone wrote lyrics to the Main Title theme. The song was performed and recorded several times and can easily be found on You Tube under the title 'Requiem For A Soldier'. There are several covers for either Piano or Cello also on You Tube. The composer died two years after the broadcast of Band Of Brothers. When Tom Hanks and co. made The Pacific several years later they hired Hans Zimmer to write the main title theme for that series and Blake Nealy to write the bulk of the underscore. While not as amazing as the BoB score, they did a pretty good job for the follow up series.
There was only one Michael Kamen. He was just as confortable working with Pop artists like Bryan Adams on the lush main title songs for 'Robin Hood Prince Of Thjieves' and 'Don Juan DeMarco' or Pink Floyd, Aerowsmith, Tom Petty, Eric Clapton, The Who, Metalica, Def Leppard and others on orchestrating their songs.
I believe it wasn't actually a Luger, but some Belgian or US pistol (possibly the confusion is due to a few guns looking kinda similar in the commotion, FN1922 and M1911?) which may have gotten caught in some barbed wire and depressed the trigger.
It was not a Luger, def not US either but there's a video with some of the veterans and cast members in Bastogne and they make note that the Pistol did not have a safety.
Apparently, Hoobler was reaching into his pocket for something (same pocket the Luger was in) and it's theorized that his finger brushed against the trigger as he was removing his hand. Lugers had no safeties and a sensitive trigger. Hoob made the mistake of not unloading the weapon before he put it away. No way a round should have been left in the chamber if the gun was not in use (those same rules were taught back then as they are now). It was tragic. The reason Hoob died so quick was that he had all that winter gear on and it took forever to locate the wound so he was continuously bleeding out.
As you can see from the comments about Dike, some of the characters were changed from reality. Some of this is due to a miss understanding of events, memories in interviews, or artistic licence. Cobb, Webster, Spiers, Dike, Blythe, Winters, and a few others had slight changes in character, or events for narrative reasons. I think Winters on the train was fiction for example, while Blythe's reported death was a mistake. Cobb, and Spiers get slight changes to show different personalities and reactions to war. Cobb for example was not a cowered but was one of the more experienced men in the company. He served in Africa in the 1st armored.
Cobb was courtmartialed after Hagenau for starting a fight with an officer. He was discharged from the army.
Fun fact: Rick Gomez (Luz) has a brother (Josh Gomez) that plays Morgan in the TV series Chuck!
Sorry you couldn't keep the scene where Spears told Lipton about how he (Lip) kept the men together at Bastogne....Donnie Wahlberg did such a good job in this show
I looooved that scene so much though
I definitely have the same thing with "old people" as well, mostly because my own grandparents on either side were some of the nicest people I have ever met. Not perfect, by far, but for lack of a better word... nice... Thankfully, while my grandparents lived through either world war, they didn't have to fight in a war... but the thing that gets me, is the idea of anyone's, hopefully, sweet old grandparents would ever have to go through something like that in their lives.
PS: Of course war is probably unavoidable at some point, but one can always hope that we at some point can get to a point in time, where nobody or atleast that that as few as possible has to go through that.
I think you'll find what Winters says at the end is true of most armed forces who have been through this.
Not sure if it's your thing but there are 2 all time great series that I would recommend as must see TV and that's The Sopranos and The Wire. Two shows that changed TV as we know it today.
I'd also add Deadwood to that as well. An absolute masterpiece
You'll be happy to hear that Sopranos and the Wire are literally marked in my calendar to begin filming soon
@@LukeParon amazing... The wire is a difficult watch for the first few episodes but it unravels slowly. Is so detailed and textured. An absolute masterclass in story telling/plot. It makes no concessions for the casual viewer. As David Simon says, " fuck the casual viewer". Not sure if you are aware of the background but David Simon was a local reporter in Baltimore and spent a year inside the homicide department so he could write a book. The other show runner was an undercover cop and a teacher. Most of the characters are based on real people and in some cases those real people feature in the show as other characters. Most of the storylines come from Simon's and Ed Burn's time in the force and covering them so it does seem a bit dated now with the tech they use. Doesn't matter though. I'm looking forward to you starting it.
@@LukeParon hey my dad worked on the wire! Lived in Baltimore my whole life. Hope you like the show!
Chocolate Hummus!? Was it good?? I love Hummus.
Was surprised at how much I enjoyed it. It provided the same kind of experience as Nutella but not as smooth/creamy. Very similar taste but a more pasty hummus like texture.
the "is that a timed bomb" that landed in their foxhole was a dud, it was supposed to blow up on impact, but due to manufacturing flaw it didn't, they were just really really lucky.
Speirs was the guy who run through the german line. and The building where Shifty Powers hit the German sniper is still there at Foy. He hit the German right between the eyes. According to his fellow soldiers Shifty was the best shooter in the Easy Company.
I love the Shifty story where, during the siege in the Ardennes, he noticed a new tree had appeared on the German lines overnight. A single tree in snowy, war-torn forest, that had not been there the days before.
One tree.
He reported it and it turned out to have been erected by the Germans to hide artillery. Shifty spotting it saved American solders' lives that day. Eyes like hawk, that man.
Since the beginning of episode 3 Carentan when you predicted that he would die, I have waited for this episode for your reaction to being 100% right.
Except it was Malarkey who is pursuing the Luger in the first two episodes and that's who he thought would die. The person who dies here was Hoobler.
@@HouTexHemi Hoobler is who asked to see the British soldier's Luger in episode 1, Malarkey never said anything about it till episode 2, in the beginning of episode 3 Carentan Hoobler says his Luger will put them all to shame when he gets it, at 3:16 of the reaction he declares that Hoob will die the moment he gets his Luger. I failed to include which episode, You're correct he also says that about Malarkey in episode 2. But I meant the scene in the beginning of episode 3. Keep in mind that he often confuses the 2 men for each other.
They should save the camp!!!! It's a piece of history. In Calgary we still have signal hill from when ww1 pilots (Canadian and American) trained here. That's a piece of history.... I cant afford the travel expense but.... damn....
Lugar's were not great pistols. The USA had a choice between the Germans Lugar and the M1911...... well lugar's are no longer made and the 1911 is basically the standard. 45. So. But the lugar could go off at damn near any time. If it wasn't old and cleaned daily it would misfire.
And ya. Spiers did that. Military records confirm. He was a beast at Foy
Hi, too bad you were involved with your rant against the wounded Lt. Dyke, without pausing the video. It caused you to miss out on Captain Winters beginning to charge forward to take over Easy Company's attack. He the called forward Lt. Spiers of D Company to go down into the valley, relieve Lt. Dyke of command, establish best practices for the platoons. You did finally curb your rant in time to see Lt. Spiers run to link up Easy Company with I Company. I'm glad you finally squelched the rant. :)
I didn't miss a single thing and saw every frame. I just didn't comment on it.
@@LukeParon Good.
Actually LT Dyke was a very highly decorated war hero b4, he took over easy just wasn't the job for him ck into it ?
Ok, time for my history rant. I've mentioned before in earlier episodes that we've seen how hard a time Airborne units have dealing with armor, tanks and such. So how is it that the lightly armed 101st Airborne was able to hold off so many German tanks attacking them in Bastogne? Now I'm not denying the 101st Airborne's bravery in Bastogne but there was part of another division in Bastogne with them and they get almost no credit for the defense of Bastogne. I'm talking about Combat Command B of the 10th Armored Division, so basically 1/3 of an armored division is in Bastogne with the 101st. The only nod to them is the Jimmy Falon character George Rice. Now I know this series is about the 101s and the 506th but it's not just this series almost any history you see about Bastogne it's about the 101st and Patton coming to rescue them. Even General McAulifee after the war said he felt bad about the lack or recognition the 10th armored didn't get for their part in the defense of Bastogne. Whew....rant done.
Talking over Spier's speech getting to Dyke is a punishable offense. Edit: Quite a few... interesting choices for what to drop for YT in the editting.
Purple Heart is awarded for being wounded
For bravery and pulling off battle victories medals such as the bronze or silver stars are awarded.
For something that could get you killed and saved lives in the process the “CMH”. (Congressional Medal of Honor ) could possibly be awarded
I was laughing at that. He was basically saying "I hope that guy was shot.".
I had no idea, I thought it just meant the highest military honor you could recieve. Didn't realize that was the criteria haha my bad
And they didnt have more white helmet covers or coats because you saw how they were supposed to go to Paris but the Germans broke through and they didnt have time to rearm or reoutfit (The Jimmy Kimmel scene)
Malarkey lost some of his close friends Hoobler shot himself, Skip Muck and Pankela were hit in their foxhole.
I actually have some beef with the SFX guys who worked on this episode.
They forgot to include the sound of Speirs' balls clanking against each other during the run through the town.
:-P
Love your reactions. Please react to the documentary too.
Luke, I just realized who you kind of remind me of. It's been bugging me. You remind me a little bit of Bill Murray.
Haha I'll take that!
Not sure I agree that being vulnerable means weak..in fact, I would say thats strength.. but I get what you are saying.
Where did I say it? I don't recall the when I said that so I don't know the full context, but It sounds like I misspoke
Also not trying to be salty haha I'm genuinely looking for a time code
@@LukeParon They are referring to your comment about older people crying from the very beginning of the episode
How come you picked up this old show at this time? The series is not bad though and it is worth your time. I have seen it two times first back in early 2000 and the last time about 2010 I think
I consider myself rather knowledgeable about the history of cinema and have seen tons of stuff from every era but had realized I never got around to watching one of the most acclaimed shows of all time so here we are.
@@LukeParon Well looking at the series with 2021 eys. How do you think it has taken the age? Is it still worth the time