I recently started CS3 and came across the Thomas Lysander scene pretty early on... I was so confused and assumed it was just something I forgot in CS2... this makes so much sense now!! Wtf Falcom, how sneaky 😭😭
Well at the during the end of CS1 and during CS2 they reference a trip that the class made to Ymir... That sequence isnt in CS1, and they reference it more than a few times. From what I read it was an audio drama that has never been released in the US. So... yeah it's kinda interesting when series do stuff like that. Still it's not nearly as bad as the .Hack series was with things split between anime, manga, games and other media. That series was impossible to get the entire story.
@@Drakenrahll A bit late, but it is actually possible to read the translated transcripts of the audio drama. On CS2's main menu, it gives you an option for recaps, and there's a link to the website on there.
@@tinyprawnie8101 Thanks for the info. If I play the series through again I may well read it. It doesnt seem like anything major or earth shattering happened, but it would be neat to read it at the proper time while playing the games again.
I still don't really understand why the items you need(+cutscene) are only available in NG+... *sigh* once I noticed how fun it was to talk to every NPC in earlier games I did the same in CS2 and so my first playhtrough became about 200+ hours long and I loved every second of it XD. I knew I might still miss some stuff without a guide but I'm fine with that but when I heard about THIS after my first playthru.... I can say for a 100% certainty I would have found all those items and the cutscene if they were not NG+ exclusive. And that feels a bit with lack of a better word "stupid". Now excuse me I have work to do in Crossbell.
I'm personally fine with it. I intended to replay both I and II from the very beginning, as well as the sky trilogy. I'm aiming for nightmare completionist so going for NG+ was on my list anyway.
@@evewhoo I did my first playthrough on Nightmare and also like to go completionist in the first playthrough(still need to redo sky tho XD) but I dunno... I don't think major story parts should be hidden away in a 2nd playthrough + I simply prefer finding everything around me on the first playthrough, find some special quotes or some easter egg in NG+ sure that's cool but this is a step too far for most people I think, I believe even Falcom want people to work for it and figure out to see that cutscene in-game but.. what if they prefer playing on NG and not NG+? They could never see this without outside help in that case. I want people to experience that moment but a big part of those people will likely just go start CS3. Anyroad I like doing NG+ in the end but not for story reasons I guess.
Heh, you think that's bad. At least you can find those items relatively easy on your NG+. In Ao there's pieces of important lore that only come up if you do certain very specific things. Like how they only mention the Steel Maiden's possible identity if you manage to beat her. If you lose (which is very easy to do) the mystery remains until Laura mentions it in Cold Steel 2.
RIP Scott. There's still nobody who puts out Trails content to your caliber. You were a master of your craft and will be missed by any Trails fan who stumbles across your channel.
@NomfuI he passed away a couple of years ago. He played a big role in getting the Crossbell games localized, in addition to producing some of the best Trails youtube content to this day.
The fact that people still cone to this channel, even years later is a testament to the legacy he forged. And the fact that his channel and videos still aid people to this day reinforces that legacy.
The world building in this game is insane! There are a lot of factions, all vying for control. There are the shadow factions, like the witches, the covert division of the church, ouroboros, the intelligence division - all pulling their strings from the shadows. And then there are the public facing side as well. The bracers, the empire and republic, the nobles and the Liberl monarchy. Amazing stuff!
Well... Cold Steel 3 assumes you know not only this scene, but the whole Crossbell Arc. Cold Steel 4 goes even further: You need to play every Trails game before, starting with Trails in the Sky. That's for complete story and lore. You can always play without that knowledge, but you're gonna be partially out of context.
Yoo thank you so much, I would've had no idea this existed. That's absurd to lock something so seemingly important behind NG+, some of these games are too long for me to even want to finish a first time much less a second, that's nuts
That's what I did. I don't think the Black Records content should be in NG+ on that game, especially since it's a big game and it takes you a long time to finish with everything. If you do everything you can, you just don't want to do it again. I personally don't like to start a new game + in a game that I've spent some time away because I love the feeling of starting over so in the end, I played CS2 three times, none of them in NG+. Maybe I should do it eventually though. xD
@@advmx3 but u can play ng+, without levels and mira and sepith, I like ng+ cause I can finally view all the bonding scenes, but I don't have the time nor patients to play ng+. Any game I play twice is to get all achievement or speedrun, and not interested for any of that in cs as the new stuff is at the very very end.
Hopefully falcom don't realize players like us would do that, otherwise they might just pull a sakurai with putting in less stuff if players could just look up stuff on youtube lol
Damn! Too many good games are coming out this year and I'm playing catch up with older ones from last year! I'll be getting both cold steel 1and 2. I keep hearing just how amazing these games are and I have to see it for myself. So many games.....so little time.
I remember my first time playing Cold Steel 2 on the PS3 I had a guide that said that there was bonus stuff to get in NG+ butI never took the opportunity to do so. That cutscene was really interesting especially after finding out about Instructor Thomas. Thanks for the info I missed!
Good fucking LORD! That was way too important of a scene to be hidden in a freaking NG+ playthrough! As much as I love the Cold Steel series, that was definitely a dick move! Thanks for showing a 1 playthrough player what could potentially be an important plot point.
just finished cold steel 2 and had no intention on doing ng+ before 3 comes out in November so this was appreciated kinda silly to leave something like this out of the main play through.
Even then the black records are especially difficult to find without a guide. There is one in a shop where everything else is useless. There is one at the end of the Ancient Quarry in Nord but it only appears after you defeat the boss. And even better. There is one in the corner of Lohengrin Castle, only available before you defeat the boss.
Played cold steal one and two back to back but couldn’t pass the first dungeon in 3 from serious burn out. Replaying it again I remember the big plot points but forgot half of the subplots
Really appreciate this video. I too was not aware that the NG+ had exclusive content and wouldn't have thought it would be dumped on you in CS3. It is also good to know that waiting for a PC release of the English version to carry over save data is not really a good plan, at least for the time being. Hope you'll make more videos.
Thank you a million for this share! This is my favorite series and though I'm caught up through CSII I had no idea about this scene. This honestly beat playing it again just to catch up, so this was very kind of you to share. And I 100% agree that gating content like this behind a NG+ is a ludicrously terrible design choice. I'd go so far as to argue making a plot point this big an easter egg at all is a bad idea but NG+ is completely unheard of.
Great info. Considering I really want to enjoy the series as a whole, playing another 100+ hours of CS2 for the upcoming CS3 is just a piece of cake to get all the lore. Seeing the Black Records book made me a whole lot motivated. Thanks a bunch, Scott!
2:55 I will gladly play CS2 many times over and over again because I love the game so much before the PS4 announcement I was on my 3rd NG+ playthrough on ps3 so you can’t fault or deny my commitment
I am somehow just finding this video 3 years later, having just beaten Cold Steel 1-4 in about 10 days NOW I HAVE TO GO BACK AND PLAY 2-4 ALL OVER AGAIN
Thanks for the upload! I’ve finished CS I&II. I’m letting my PS4 East atm before playing the third game. Was surprised to play as some characters from the Crossbell arc. I’m amazed that there were 2 games going on at the same time. This universe is so vast, I’m getting a slight headache trying to wrap my head around it all at once. Lol I want it all!
Thanks a lot for this video, i had no idea about this scene. There are so many games i want to play, i almost never play NG+ nowadays, unless the story is radically different in at least parts of it. This scene explains a few things about Thomas...
Wow...i'm glad i found this video. I recently started play CSIII and it would be a bummer to not know about this scene beforehand. Thanks for clearing this out for me :)
5:48 uh pretty sure the information that what was being described was the battle between the sept terrions of earth and fire was supposed to be a twist in like chapter 4 or 5 of cs3
GOD DAMNIT! Ya know after having just finished trials to Azure, as soon as you showed a shot of Professor Thomas in this video it like instantly clicked and I was thinking "Oh god, Thomas is a member of the Gralsritter isn't he?" Then as soon as the scene started and Rosine was standing next to him I just thought "GOD DAMNIT HE IS AND ROSINE IS HIS FUCKING SQUIRE" How does this series keep doing this?!?!
This new plot twist wasn't a huge surprise to me, especially after playing Trails in the Sky. I recommend you to play that series before CS3. And I finished the game in 110 hours. Granted I played it on hard which lead to longer battles and some restarts, but I don't get how you can finish it in half of that time. Are you expected to play via a guide or something? That would be ridiculous.
If you use turbo mode it cuts down the time with battles and running from A to B by a pretty significant amount. I'm taking my time with the game since cs3 won't be out till September
So, i just saw the Cutscene now and in the End Thomas said that the Roaring Lion takes care of things in West Erebonia. Than it doesnt make sense that he was dying in Nord when Gaius got his Stigma in CS3. Nord is on the complete other side and i havent got any clue why he was there.
Just finished Cold Steel 2 thanks for making this video saved me a ton of trouble and that scene damn it all makes so much sense now. Now on to the elusive Crossbell Duology.
Thank you for making this video!! I just finished cold steel II and already have cold steel III loaded up…. I guess I’m one of the crazies who binge game after game 😂. No way I would’ve known about this NG+ stuff before starting.
i wasnt going to do any NG+ stuff until i was through all the available games. iv gone though everygame from Sky FC to cold steel 2 in a bit over a month... wrapping up the epiloge in CS2 soon then moving right in to CS 3 & 4. then ill start it alllll over again on NG+ Nightmare for every game.
thx for putting this out there. I recently picked up the trails series with Trails in the Sky 1 2 3 and Cold Steel 1 & 2 played back to back. Couldn't be bothered with NG+ since my game time is limited and frankly can't make time to go over a game multiple times. Started CS 3 a few days ago and this scene is interesting when considering what happens in CS3 with Rosine. So yeah, thank you :)
Well thats a helpful bit, it should also be noted that you can import your save data from the previous versions of the game if you want to use those for New Game+ as I beat the first two games on Vita. I picked up the first game on PS4 and made a new game plus save file on my Vita copy that I transferred over to continue on PS4.
In the same way that Rean participating in North Ambria being annexed is mentioned in passing as having happened in the past year, I just assumed that Thomas' confiding his identity was another little development we are understood to have not seen.
The most frustating Part about the Annexion is, thats there this crucial Moment when Reans Power runs amok and all we got in the Game was like "yeah, you cant use Spirit unification anymore. Sorry about that." And the Anime was a downer.. it hasnt answerd the question what happened with Rean, just when.
The most frustating Part about the Annexion is, thats there this crucial Moment when Reans Power runs amok and all we got in the Game was like "yeah, you cant use Spirit unification anymore. Sorry about that." And the Anime was a downer.. it hasnt answerd the question what happened with Rean, just when.
Falcom always did this with Cold Steel. Let's think about the CD Dramas for example, it's even suggested on their website, if I remember, to watch/read them. And in Cold Steel IV they even put stuff from the manga and I was so confused because I couldn't understand what they were talking about.
I wasnt gonna do NG+ looked this up. Rosine was actually weird at end of cs2 when i played and knew something off with Thomas. This should def been included and you be guided towards
A second playthrough is necessary anyway to view all bonding events so i don't really mind it. Hell I've played CS1/2 five times now and 6th b4 i play CS3 to refresh myself.
WATCHED THIS AGAIN BECAUSE CS 3 IS ALMOST HERE NOW IF FALCOM/NISA ANNOUNCED THE CS 4 LOCALIZATION IS BEING WORK THEN I WILL BE AT PEACE ALSO MAYBE SLIDING THE LOCALIZATION OF ZERO/AO (CROSSBELL) I WILL BE MORE AT PEACE WELL ANYONE CAN DREAM RIGHT?? URGH THE TORTURE CONTINUES BUT I'M HAPPY WE NOW FINALLY GOT CS 3
The only thing I wish to be changed is changing the difficulty mid game and not starting a new game just to change it. I just want to rush through to Cold Steel 2 before my backlog gets even bigger when Cold Steel 3 releases this year.
Well, thanks for the heads up. I just picked up all three entries recently, and while I don't want to spoil any of my experience, it's useful to know these details so that I'm not stressing too much over getting absolutely everything out of my first playthrough. If NG+ adds stuff (and I'd assume keeps the rest), I can play as blind as I like the first time and then check out any extra tips for finding everything I missed in NG+.
Going back to this, even when CS3 was a long ways away and I had beaten the 2nd game on the Vita, even I didn't know about this extra cutscene that I needed to work towards getting.
As someone who is still new to the series I only beaten Cold Steel 1 and 2. After I beaten them someone from PSN friend request/ group chat was telling me that I have to play Cold Steel 2 again just get this cutscene with the black records and such. And I said i'll do that later in another time because in my head I was thinking why the hell would I play Cold Steel 2 again back to back just to get a cutscene that will probably not have much impact in the story of Cold Steel 3 which in my opinion it didn't since i'm chapter 2 of Cold Steel 3 and only saw flashbacks of what they was talking about in the previous chapters and I was like cool. But my issue with Cold Steel 3 which was already mentioned in this video is why the hell didn't Falcom made and save import for Cold Steel 3? I kinda find it lazy and selfish that they would do something like that assuming everyone would go back and play Cold Steel 2 twice in a row. Now it makes since for people who been playing the Cold Steel games long before Cold Steel 3 came out but for people like me who are new they should've made it like how Mass Effect did like if you missed something its ok the story will still continue without you missing much and then when that person decides to play everything again because I think Falcom forgot that replay value exist. Then players would've discovered something like the Black Records on their own and make them want to continue playing the games more that way. But its too late they missed that opportunity and gave everything all away.
Thanks for this Video, i just finished Cold Steel 2 a Weaks ago and because i almost never buy books in these games i would have missed this Lore detail.
i know 100% im at ng+ i finished alias ending my first time. i think im either in my 2nd or 3rd playthrough of the game. i got left off in act 2 i think. i was doing it with a guide this last run until my vita button camera kept spinning which made me unable to play so im continuing from where i left off. didn't knew about that ng+ exclusive scene but i was gathering all of the black books cant wait for tocs3
Umm... I'm new to the series. I'm on the last chapter of Cold Steel I and will be continuing on to the second game this summer. I love the game. I love the characters. However, there's no way I'm playing through the game twice. I just don't have that kind of time. There are other games I enjoy doing and there's a lot of outdoor things I also like to do in the summer time. I'll still pick up the third game, and I'm sure I will enjoy it as well. If any of the lore is lost on me, I'll find a TH-cam video.
The second half of this video is literally the NG+ cutscene that he was talking about. I wouldn’t recommend playing through NG+ just to view the scene. Just come back to this video once you’ve finished CS2 and watch the rest of it. Then you’ll be fine.
TBH, there's not much important or pertinent information in this cutscene anyway. This stuff is recounted at the start of CS3, and as the uploader mentioned "It may come as a shock if you haven't got the NG+ ending," but honestly... not really a shock at all, and if it feels like one I can't imagine that being anything less than pleasant. No reason to play through NG+ if you don't have time.
i played all three cold steel games to completion , what is quite puzzling to me is the fact that there is a gap in time between COLD Steel 2 & 3 and in that gap a lot of stuff happened and those were not touched upon on game 3 except a few tidbits here and there . i really hope they restore the proper timeline and tell us what happened in game 4 , i mean don't get me wrong game 3 was a masterpiece and i really hope game 4 follows suite without leaving anything behind
The most important thing I'm taking away from this video is that there's no save transfer between Cold Steel 2 and 3. Which means I'm now FAR more likely to pick the game up on PS4 instead of crossing all my fingers and holding out for a PC release. This is not a bad thing.
As someone who got into the series because of the heavy lore and marathoned the games back to back.Hearing that I missed something because it’s NG+ annoys me a bit.
At least it now looks likely that we will get Cold Steel 4 sometime in 2020, if the two year gap between Japan and WW releases with the first three games hold true...
I think it's perfectly fine though. I think it adds to the replayability factor to add some Easter eggs/ lore in the NG+. Though that's coming from someone who always plays all Trails games more than once.
Well they were right cause i replayed the the whole series starting from trails in the sky to the latest ones when there's new localization releases cause by that time i might have forgotten the whole story even, its that long. By that time NG++ is given ,but understandably its demanding.
I'm the type of guy who played cs2 on easy mode just because I know how long the first one was + i played the liberl and crossbell series just before that. So I wanted to concentrate on the story but I'm not sure I would find enough time to do NG+ although I'm amazed at how well built is this universe
SPOILER HEAVY COMMENT MAYBE:I can't believe how much context this would have provided. I knew something was wrong when Rean mentioned this conversation because it didnt sound familiar, but wow. My memory may be bad, but was the nature of the Erobonian Sept terrions (being a plural), as well as the secrets of the divine knights, discussed this way at all in CS2 outside of this? Its interesting how important this conversation was in CS2 and how much more Lysander revealed in CS3. The guy provided more lore than any other character in the CS series lol.
I haven't even beaten Cold Steel One yet . I have yet to touch Cold steel 2. Are they expecting me to play 210 hrs -240 hrs of Cold Steel (70 hrs each Cold steel one and 2 playthrough) to understand Cold steel 3? I am going to pre order Cold steel 3 anyway.
Let me know if you like this sort of video and want more. I've got like 4 terabytes of Cold Steel 1 & 2 footage to work with.
I have a hacked vita with both trails of cold steel 1 and 2 does this mean I will have to get it on ps4 now?
@@thunderanime27 no the story content is the same in both versions. The PS4 version just comes with the DLC, more voiced lines, turbo mode, etc.
@@KillScottKill ok thanks I thought I had to buy the games all over again.
This is great news and thank you and keep these videos coming please
Yes please, it's always nice to see more people talk about kiseki.
Not gonna lie, a video by you autoplaying now kinda hurts. RIP dude.
What happened?
@@GozetaZero Look at the top comment on his most recent video.
TLDR: he's dead.
Love the way his eyes change shape when he's done goofing around.
I recently started CS3 and came across the Thomas Lysander scene pretty early on... I was so confused and assumed it was just something I forgot in CS2... this makes so much sense now!! Wtf Falcom, how sneaky 😭😭
same
yeah.. thats what exactly I'm feeling right now.. I was like "did I miss something?".. haha
Well at the during the end of CS1 and during CS2 they reference a trip that the class made to Ymir... That sequence isnt in CS1, and they reference it more than a few times. From what I read it was an audio drama that has never been released in the US. So... yeah it's kinda interesting when series do stuff like that.
Still it's not nearly as bad as the .Hack series was with things split between anime, manga, games and other media. That series was impossible to get the entire story.
@@Drakenrahll A bit late, but it is actually possible to read the translated transcripts of the audio drama. On CS2's main menu, it gives you an option for recaps, and there's a link to the website on there.
@@tinyprawnie8101 Thanks for the info. If I play the series through again I may well read it. It doesnt seem like anything major or earth shattering happened, but it would be neat to read it at the proper time while playing the games again.
I still don't really understand why the items you need(+cutscene) are only available in NG+... *sigh* once I noticed how fun it was to talk to every NPC in earlier games I did the same in CS2 and so my first playhtrough became about 200+ hours long and I loved every second of it XD. I knew I might still miss some stuff without a guide but I'm fine with that but when I heard about THIS after my first playthru....
I can say for a 100% certainty I would have found all those items and the cutscene if they were not NG+ exclusive. And that feels a bit with lack of a better word "stupid".
Now excuse me I have work to do in Crossbell.
I'm personally fine with it. I intended to replay both I and II from the very beginning, as well as the sky trilogy. I'm aiming for nightmare completionist so going for NG+ was on my list anyway.
@@evewhoo I did my first playthrough on Nightmare and also like to go completionist in the first playthrough(still need to redo sky tho XD) but I dunno... I don't think major story parts should be hidden away in a 2nd playthrough + I simply prefer finding everything around me on the first playthrough, find some special quotes or some easter egg in NG+ sure that's cool but this is a step too far for most people I think, I believe even Falcom want people to work for it and figure out to see that cutscene in-game but.. what if they prefer playing on NG and not NG+? They could never see this without outside help in that case. I want people to experience that moment but a big part of those people will likely just go start CS3. Anyroad I like doing NG+ in the end but not for story reasons I guess.
Heh, you think that's bad. At least you can find those items relatively easy on your NG+. In Ao there's pieces of important lore that only come up if you do certain very specific things. Like how they only mention the Steel Maiden's possible identity if you manage to beat her. If you lose (which is very easy to do) the mystery remains until Laura mentions it in Cold Steel 2.
First playthrough I have 100 plus hours in both trails 1 and 2
Me too dude
RIP Scott. There's still nobody who puts out Trails content to your caliber.
You were a master of your craft and will be missed by any Trails fan who stumbles across your channel.
true his channel still is the go to one for recaps or secrets we mightve missed
What happened? I just started my Trails journey and just discovered this channel.
@NomfuI he passed away a couple of years ago. He played a big role in getting the Crossbell games localized, in addition to producing some of the best Trails youtube content to this day.
The fact that people still cone to this channel, even years later is a testament to the legacy he forged. And the fact that his channel and videos still aid people to this day reinforces that legacy.
The world building in this game is insane! There are a lot of factions, all vying for control. There are the shadow factions, like the witches, the covert division of the church, ouroboros, the intelligence division - all pulling their strings from the shadows. And then there are the public facing side as well. The bracers, the empire and republic, the nobles and the Liberl monarchy. Amazing stuff!
Thanks for the video. I did not know that a Ng+ was necesary for a complete story and Lore. I was going to play a second playthrough on PS4 anyway.
I second the motion. I would NEVER have known.
Well... Cold Steel 3 assumes you know not only this scene, but the whole Crossbell Arc. Cold Steel 4 goes even further: You need to play every Trails game before, starting with Trails in the Sky. That's for complete story and lore. You can always play without that knowledge, but you're gonna be partially out of context.
@@Gerhalt2010 who cares.
Yoo thank you so much, I would've had no idea this existed. That's absurd to lock something so seemingly important behind NG+, some of these games are too long for me to even want to finish a first time much less a second, that's nuts
Or... You could easily watch this extra stuff on youtube after finishing the game.
That's what I did.
I don't think the Black Records content should be in NG+ on that game, especially since it's a big game and it takes you a long time to finish with everything. If you do everything you can, you just don't want to do it again.
I personally don't like to start a new game + in a game that I've spent some time away because I love the feeling of starting over so in the end, I played CS2 three times, none of them in NG+. Maybe I should do it eventually though. xD
@Blaire obviously. that's why this vid exists. to inform players of the lore.
@@advmx3 but u can play ng+, without levels and mira and sepith, I like ng+ cause I can finally view all the bonding scenes, but I don't have the time nor patients to play ng+. Any game I play twice is to get all achievement or speedrun, and not interested for any of that in cs as the new stuff is at the very very end.
Hopefully falcom don't realize players like us would do that, otherwise they might just pull a sakurai with putting in less stuff if players could just look up stuff on youtube lol
@@thejonbrownshow8470 i mean if they make the stuff might as well let the player get it in blind playthrough anyway. whats the point of hiding it?
if only there was a website that uploaded these missed cutscenes so i wouldn't have to play the game over again.....
Thanks, I had no idea this scene even existed lol, good to know
I always knew instructor Thomas wasent a normal man his whole existence always made me uneasy
Feeling fortunate to have come across this video just a couple days before starting CS3. Thanks a lot for making this.
What I did was complete CS2 then watched the important scene here on YT. That works well enough for the modern age to me
Damn! Too many good games are coming out this year and I'm playing catch up with older ones from last year! I'll be getting both cold steel 1and 2. I keep hearing just how amazing these games are and I have to see it for myself. So many games.....so little time.
I remember my first time playing Cold Steel 2 on the PS3 I had a guide that said that there was bonus stuff to get in NG+ butI never took the opportunity to do so. That cutscene was really interesting especially after finding out about Instructor Thomas. Thanks for the info I missed!
Good fucking LORD! That was way too important of a scene to be hidden in a freaking NG+ playthrough!
As much as I love the Cold Steel series, that was definitely a dick move!
Thanks for showing a 1 playthrough player what could potentially be an important plot point.
I'm blown away that a scene like this was hidden at the end of NG+.. what the hell man, I never would have seen this.
Rosine was already a good bae side character to begin with. Learning this makes it even better.
just finished cold steel 2 and had no intention on doing ng+ before 3 comes out in November so this was appreciated kinda silly to leave something like this out of the main play through.
Even then the black records are especially difficult to find without a guide.
There is one in a shop where everything else is useless.
There is one at the end of the Ancient Quarry in Nord but it only appears after you defeat the boss.
And even better. There is one in the corner of Lohengrin Castle, only available before you defeat the boss.
Played cold steal one and two back to back but couldn’t pass the first dungeon in 3 from serious burn out. Replaying it again I remember the big plot points but forgot half of the subplots
Really appreciate this video. I too was not aware that the NG+ had exclusive content and wouldn't have thought it would be dumped on you in CS3. It is also good to know that waiting for a PC release of the English version to carry over save data is not really a good plan, at least for the time being.
Hope you'll make more videos.
Thank you a million for this share! This is my favorite series and though I'm caught up through CSII I had no idea about this scene. This honestly beat playing it again just to catch up, so this was very kind of you to share. And I 100% agree that gating content like this behind a NG+ is a ludicrously terrible design choice. I'd go so far as to argue making a plot point this big an easter egg at all is a bad idea but NG+ is completely unheard of.
Great info. Considering I really want to enjoy the series as a whole, playing another 100+ hours of CS2 for the upcoming CS3 is just a piece of cake to get all the lore. Seeing the Black Records book made me a whole lot motivated. Thanks a bunch, Scott!
Just wanted to say thank you for posting this
played trails of cold steel 1 & 2 but couldn't be bothered with a new game +.
oh yeah, this has an easter egg in the av store in tokyo xanadu +
They are wearing their dlc outfits from ToCS 2 as well
2:55 I will gladly play CS2 many times over and over again because I love the game so much before the PS4 announcement I was on my 3rd NG+ playthrough on ps3 so you can’t fault or deny my commitment
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I am somehow just finding this video 3 years later, having just beaten Cold Steel 1-4 in about 10 days
NOW I HAVE TO GO BACK AND PLAY 2-4 ALL OVER AGAIN
Thanks for the upload! I’ve finished CS I&II. I’m letting my PS4 East atm before playing the third game.
Was surprised to play as some characters from the Crossbell arc. I’m amazed that there were 2 games going on at the same time. This universe is so vast, I’m getting a slight headache trying to wrap my head around it all at once. Lol I want it all!
Thanks a lot for this video, i had no idea about this scene. There are so many games i want to play, i almost never play NG+ nowadays, unless the story is radically different in at least parts of it. This scene explains a few things about Thomas...
Wow...i'm glad i found this video. I recently started play CSIII and it would be a bummer to not know about this scene beforehand. Thanks for clearing this out for me :)
5:48 uh pretty sure the information that what was being described was the battle between the sept terrions of earth and fire was supposed to be a twist in like chapter 4 or 5 of cs3
I didn't know that it was in the second game, I went straight from the 2nd game to the 3rd. Boy was I shocked...
I just finished my NG+ this week, had to take a few months break in between
Man imagine if they did the Mass Effect route and you could carryover data to sequel games. That'd be awesome.
Thanks. I never would have done second playthrough just for that
I’m already on that. This is my first time playing Cold Steel 2. It has been a great ride so far.
2:15 Oh _That's_ what you are on about. My mind kept blanking and I was only thinking of the optional boss XD
GOD DAMNIT! Ya know after having just finished trials to Azure, as soon as you showed a shot of Professor Thomas in this video it like instantly clicked and I was thinking "Oh god, Thomas is a member of the Gralsritter isn't he?" Then as soon as the scene started and Rosine was standing next to him I just thought "GOD DAMNIT HE IS AND ROSINE IS HIS FUCKING SQUIRE" How does this series keep doing this?!?!
Didnt realize this was a secret scene,I just unlocked it without knowing. My real purpose of playing NG+ was to have Crow as a party member again
Beautiful stuff that you’re doing
For those who don't know. The NG+ Content is also referred to as "Black Records" And NO thats not a Spoiler.
This Comment is for those ppl who stopped watching at around 3:50
This new plot twist wasn't a huge surprise to me, especially after playing Trails in the Sky. I recommend you to play that series before CS3.
And I finished the game in 110 hours. Granted I played it on hard which lead to longer battles and some restarts, but I don't get how you can finish it in half of that time. Are you expected to play via a guide or something? That would be ridiculous.
Probably Turbo Mode being used, it really cuts down on time quite a lot.
If you use turbo mode it cuts down the time with battles and running from A to B by a pretty significant amount. I'm taking my time with the game since cs3 won't be out till September
So, i just saw the Cutscene now and in the End Thomas said that the Roaring Lion takes care of things in West Erebonia.
Than it doesnt make sense that he was dying in Nord when Gaius got his Stigma in CS3. Nord is on the complete other side and i havent got any clue why he was there.
Just finished Cold Steel 2 thanks for making this video saved me a ton of trouble and that scene damn it all makes so much sense now. Now on to the elusive Crossbell Duology.
Thank you for making this video!! I just finished cold steel II and already have cold steel III loaded up…. I guess I’m one of the crazies who binge game after game 😂. No way I would’ve known about this NG+ stuff before starting.
i wasnt going to do any NG+ stuff until i was through all the available games. iv gone though everygame from Sky FC to cold steel 2 in a bit over a month... wrapping up the epiloge in CS2 soon then moving right in to CS 3 & 4. then ill start it alllll over again on NG+ Nightmare for every game.
thx for putting this out there. I recently picked up the trails series with Trails in the Sky 1 2 3 and Cold Steel 1 & 2 played back to back. Couldn't be bothered with NG+ since my game time is limited and frankly can't make time to go over a game multiple times. Started CS 3 a few days ago and this scene is interesting when considering what happens in CS3 with Rosine. So yeah, thank you :)
I played cold steel 3 with out playing none of the others is not as bad just do your homework there’s books and info everywhere
Well thats a helpful bit, it should also be noted that you can import your save data from the previous versions of the game if you want to use those for New Game+ as I beat the first two games on Vita. I picked up the first game on PS4 and made a new game plus save file on my Vita copy that I transferred over to continue on PS4.
Thank you.
All the arteria and church stuff is the biggest and most important thread throughout the franchise
"Who the hell am I"
I think he he means
"Who the Gahenna am I"
Dude these are amazing! Hope you do more with the Crossbell arc games :D
Played 1 but felt burnt-out after. Now dropping 2 rip my wallet for buying all of them
Just looking for content regarding the NG+ scene and i come across a youtuber who passed away? Damn.
In the same way that Rean participating in North Ambria being annexed is mentioned in passing as having happened in the past year, I just assumed that Thomas' confiding his identity was another little development we are understood to have not seen.
The most frustating Part about the Annexion is, thats there this crucial Moment when Reans Power runs amok and all we got in the Game was like "yeah, you cant use Spirit unification anymore. Sorry about that."
And the Anime was a downer.. it hasnt answerd the question what happened with Rean, just when.
The most frustating Part about the Annexion is, thats there this crucial Moment when Reans Power runs amok and all we got in the Game was like "yeah, you cant use Spirit unification anymore. Sorry about that."
And the Anime was a downer.. it hasnt answerd the question what happened with Rean, just when.
Falcom always did this with Cold Steel. Let's think about the CD Dramas for example, it's even suggested on their website, if I remember, to watch/read them. And in Cold Steel IV they even put stuff from the manga and I was so confused because I couldn't understand what they were talking about.
I heard this and just grabbed a save someone had to watch the scenes
Yeah terrible decision from Falcom, Cold Steel 2 took me 100 hours, no way i was going to do NG+ instead of just going to CSIII.
It's hard to believe this is blocked behind a new game plus playthrough. WTF
Played game twice but not NG+...still missed this
Thanks
I wasnt gonna do NG+ looked this up. Rosine was actually weird at end of cs2 when i played and knew something off with Thomas. This should def been included and you be guided towards
I was just about to start a new game plus on Nightmare difficulty (Trails of Cold Steel 2), yes I have transfer my last save from PS3 to PS4.
A second playthrough is necessary anyway to view all bonding events so i don't really mind it. Hell I've played CS1/2 five times now and 6th b4 i play CS3 to refresh myself.
WATCHED THIS AGAIN BECAUSE CS 3 IS ALMOST HERE NOW IF FALCOM/NISA ANNOUNCED THE CS 4 LOCALIZATION IS BEING WORK THEN I WILL BE AT PEACE ALSO MAYBE SLIDING THE LOCALIZATION OF ZERO/AO (CROSSBELL) I WILL BE MORE AT PEACE WELL ANYONE CAN DREAM RIGHT?? URGH THE TORTURE CONTINUES BUT I'M HAPPY WE NOW FINALLY GOT CS 3
I dunno if this scene is necessary by any means. Once you play all four games, it's just, understood that it was happening already.
The only thing I wish to be changed is changing the difficulty mid game and not starting a new game just to change it. I just want to rush through to Cold Steel 2 before my backlog gets even bigger when Cold Steel 3 releases this year.
Thank you for this. Make me reaaall hype to play the 3rd one
Well, thanks for the heads up. I just picked up all three entries recently, and while I don't want to spoil any of my experience, it's useful to know these details so that I'm not stressing too much over getting absolutely everything out of my first playthrough. If NG+ adds stuff (and I'd assume keeps the rest), I can play as blind as I like the first time and then check out any extra tips for finding everything I missed in NG+.
Joke on you this quarantine is helping me wonders on all these ng+ i'm doing lol
Going back to this, even when CS3 was a long ways away and I had beaten the 2nd game on the Vita, even I didn't know about this extra cutscene that I needed to work towards getting.
So a NG+. Cant do. Too many games on my back log right now. Search for the extra scenes later.
As someone who is still new to the series I only beaten Cold Steel 1 and 2. After I beaten them someone from PSN friend request/ group chat was telling me that I have to play Cold Steel 2 again just get this cutscene with the black records and such. And I said i'll do that later in another time because in my head I was thinking why the hell would I play Cold Steel 2 again back to back just to get a cutscene that will probably not have much impact in the story of Cold Steel 3 which in my opinion it didn't since i'm chapter 2 of Cold Steel 3 and only saw flashbacks of what they was talking about in the previous chapters and I was like cool. But my issue with Cold Steel 3 which was already mentioned in this video is why the hell didn't Falcom made and save import for Cold Steel 3? I kinda find it lazy and selfish that they would do something like that assuming everyone would go back and play Cold Steel 2 twice in a row. Now it makes since for people who been playing the Cold Steel games long before Cold Steel 3 came out but for people like me who are new they should've made it like how Mass Effect did like if you missed something its ok the story will still continue without you missing much and then when that person decides to play everything again because I think Falcom forgot that replay value exist. Then players would've discovered something like the Black Records on their own and make them want to continue playing the games more that way. But its too late they missed that opportunity and gave everything all away.
I know I'm late, but what is the name of the song in your End card in the last seconds of this video?
Thanks for this Video, i just finished Cold Steel 2 a Weaks ago and because i almost never buy books in these games i would have missed this Lore detail.
thanks for the vidéo i have finished Cold steel 2 last week
i know 100% im at ng+ i finished alias ending my first time. i think im either in my 2nd or 3rd playthrough of the game. i got left off in act 2 i think. i was doing it with a guide this last run until my vita button camera kept spinning which made me unable to play so im continuing from where i left off. didn't knew about that ng+ exclusive scene but i was gathering all of the black books cant wait for tocs3
Umm... I'm new to the series. I'm on the last chapter of Cold Steel I and will be continuing on to the second game this summer. I love the game. I love the characters. However, there's no way I'm playing through the game twice. I just don't have that kind of time. There are other games I enjoy doing and there's a lot of outdoor things I also like to do in the summer time. I'll still pick up the third game, and I'm sure I will enjoy it as well. If any of the lore is lost on me, I'll find a TH-cam video.
The second half of this video is literally the NG+ cutscene that he was talking about. I wouldn’t recommend playing through NG+ just to view the scene. Just come back to this video once you’ve finished CS2 and watch the rest of it. Then you’ll be fine.
TBH, there's not much important or pertinent information in this cutscene anyway. This stuff is recounted at the start of CS3, and as the uploader mentioned "It may come as a shock if you haven't got the NG+ ending," but honestly... not really a shock at all, and if it feels like one I can't imagine that being anything less than pleasant. No reason to play through NG+ if you don't have time.
You two are awesome! Thanks for the support. Haha! I’m looking forward to continuing on.
It’s not an incredibly big deal if you didn’t. I went from 1 to 2 to ng+ 1 and then 3 released for pc, and I’m managing
i played all three cold steel games to completion , what is quite puzzling to me is the fact that there is a gap in time between COLD Steel 2 & 3 and in that gap a lot of stuff happened and those were not touched upon on game 3 except a few tidbits here and there . i really hope they restore the proper timeline and tell us what happened in game 4 , i mean don't get me wrong game 3 was a masterpiece and i really hope game 4 follows suite without leaving anything behind
Just finished CS2 and yeah I don't really want to play nightmare mode and get that flashback. Prolly in the future.
I WANT TO KNOW, but i haven't played that far yet...
I'll wait :P
This series is so amazing. I'm really happy that I have so much more to work through
I've beaten Cold Steel 2 20 minutes ago and now I'm here
My favorite game series
The most important thing I'm taking away from this video is that there's no save transfer between Cold Steel 2 and 3. Which means I'm now FAR more likely to pick the game up on PS4 instead of crossing all my fingers and holding out for a PC release. This is not a bad thing.
As someone who got into the series because of the heavy lore and marathoned the games back to back.Hearing that I missed something because it’s NG+ annoys me a bit.
At least it now looks likely that we will get Cold Steel 4 sometime in 2020, if the two year gap between Japan and WW releases with the first three games hold true...
I'm glad I won't have to play NG+ just for this scene. But hell that was a good chunk of lore.
Because of backlog I don't do NG+ anymore
Iacon Dawnshire totally agree
I've played the 2 other games never did play the NG+ of them thou cause PS now ran out
I think it's perfectly fine though.
I think it adds to the replayability factor to add some Easter eggs/ lore in the NG+.
Though that's coming from someone who always plays all Trails games more than once.
Its been a year ive seen someone talking about this series
Well they were right cause i replayed the the whole series starting from trails in the sky to the latest ones when there's new localization releases cause by that time i might have forgotten the whole story even, its that long. By that time NG++ is given ,but understandably its demanding.
This is kinda tough for me to wrap my head around. Who exactly is thomas and the Galsritter?
Play Trails the 3rd (can purchase on Steam) to learn much and more about the Gralsritter. That game pretty much centers around them.
I'm the type of guy who played cs2 on easy mode just because I know how long the first one was + i played the liberl and crossbell series just before that. So I wanted to concentrate on the story but I'm not sure I would find enough time to do NG+ although I'm amazed at how well built is this universe
SPOILER HEAVY COMMENT MAYBE:I can't believe how much context this would have provided. I knew something was wrong when Rean mentioned this conversation because it didnt sound familiar, but wow. My memory may be bad, but was the nature of the Erobonian Sept terrions (being a plural), as well as the secrets of the divine knights, discussed this way at all in CS2 outside of this? Its interesting how important this conversation was in CS2 and how much more Lysander revealed in CS3. The guy provided more lore than any other character in the CS series lol.
I played through NG+ 3 times and have gotten everything else but this one scene, how on earth did I manage to miss it? 3 times in fact.
You're talking about that scene eh? Yeah I've seen it already. Good on expanding on the lore of Erebonia's past.
I haven't even beaten Cold Steel One yet . I have yet to touch Cold steel 2. Are they expecting me to play 210 hrs -240 hrs of Cold Steel (70 hrs each Cold steel one and 2 playthrough) to understand Cold steel 3? I am going to pre order Cold steel 3 anyway.
Yea I'm just gonna watch it just joined in the trails series and am not going to hang around IN CS 2 for long