A Very Nice Math Olympiad Problem | Solve for n | Algebra

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ย. 2024

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  • @cdiesch7000
    @cdiesch7000 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very nice solution. But n^(1/n)=256^(1/256) has a second solution around 1.022. And the initial equation has even a third solution around -0.979 which got lost when puting the exponent of 1/n on both sides by which the negative was excluded. I have unfotunately no clue on how to calculate precisely these two other solutions.

    • @richardl6751
      @richardl6751 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wrote a short program to calculate a slightly more precise value and came up with 1.022393 and -0.979017. Hope that helps.

    • @payoo_2674
      @payoo_2674 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Use the Lambert W function W(■*e^■) = ■
      n^32 = 2^n
      ln(n^32) = ln(2^n)
      32*ln|n| = x*ln(n) ===> two cases
      1st case: n > 0
      32*ln(n) = n*ln(2)
      ln(n)*n^(-1) = ln(2)/32
      ln(n)*(e^ln(n))^(-1) = ln(2)/32
      ln(n)*e^(-ln(n)) = ln(2)/32
      -ln(n)*e^(-ln(n)) = -ln(2)/32
      W(-ln(n)*e^(-ln(n))) = W(-ln(2)/32)
      -ln(n) = W(-ln(2)/32)
      ln(n) = -W(-ln(2)/32)
      n = e^(-W(-ln(2)/32)) ===> -1/e < -ln(2)/32 < 0 ===> 2 real solutions
      n₁ = e^(-W₀(-ln(2)/32)) = 1.0223929402057803206527516798494005683768365119132864517728278977...
      in WolframAlpha: e^(-productlog(0,-ln(2)/32))
      n₂ = e^(-W₋₁(-ln(2)/32)) = 256 #
      in WolframAlpha: e^(-productlog(-1,-ln(2)/32))
      2nd case: n < 0
      32*ln(-n) = n*ln(2)
      ln(-n)*n^(-1) = ln(2)/32
      -ln(-n)*n^(-1) = -ln(2)/32
      ln(-n)*(-n)^(-1) = -ln(2)/32
      ln(-n)*(e^ln(-n))^(-1) = -ln(2)/32
      ln(-n)*e^(-ln(-n)) = -ln(2)/32
      -ln(-n)*e^(-ln(-n)) = ln(2)/32
      W(-ln(-n)*e^(-ln(-n))) = W(ln(2)/32)
      -ln(-n) = W(ln(2)/32)
      ln(-n) = -W(ln(2)/32)
      -n = e^(-W(ln(2)/32))
      n = -e^(-W(ln(2)/32)) ===> ln(2)/32 > 0 ===> 1 real solution
      n₃ = -e^(-W₀(ln(2)/32)) = -0.979016934957784612322582550011650068748090048886011676265377083...
      in WolframAlpha: -e^(-productlog(0,ln(2)/32))
      # e^(-W(-ln(2)/32)) = e^(-W(-8*ln(2)/(8*32))) = e^(-W(-ln(2^8)/256)) = e^(-W(-ln(256)*256^(-1))) = e^(-W(-ln(256)*(e^ln(256))^(-1))) =
      = e^(-W(-ln(256)*e^(-ln(256)))) = e^(-(-ln(256))) = e^ln(256) = 256

  • @RamendraPaswan-f2k
    @RamendraPaswan-f2k หลายเดือนก่อน

    n^1/n=2^1/32
    n^1/n=2^1.8/32.8
    n^1/n=(2^8)^1/256
    n^1/n=(256)^1/256
    n=256