@@SelenaBrandt No you’re wrong. First degree murder conviction is a mandatory 25 years in prison before parole ELIGIBILITY. Then if released on parole they’re on parole until they die and if they break the conditions of their parole they go back to prison. Another thing is most convicted of first degree murder don’t get released after 25 years, I think the average is 32 years before release but im not certain about that. For second degree murder conviction it’s also a life sentence but the judge determines the number of years before parole ELIGIBILITY. For all other sentences you do 2/3 of your sentence before being released on Statutory release but only if you didn’t lose any good time while doing time.
Lol 😂 you forgot the half dozen bank robberies 😮.. welcome to Canada 💯 Gangsters paradise. If this was in America they would of got like 160 years .💯💯💯
@@guyincognito744229 years for 2 ppl lives! Wonder what the guy who gained release is doing , maybe the govt gave him a job at Canada Post or a job nobody wants to do! LOL!!!
Why should he? Everything’s probably free. He’s was probably highly revered and respected by younger thugs in there, too. It probably really is a Club Fed atmosphere. What a joke Canadas justice system is! 😮😮😮
😂😂😂i cant believe how much of a joke canadian system is. These not so petty theives who packed serious firepower,they tried to take the officers out, they had no captive yet the officers tried negotiation? And then they were captured and then let out? Seriously?
My mom and 2nd husband used to manage the Rainbow motel late 70s till roughly 85. Slept in that room many times lol. Watching this was creepy and ironic that a few yrs later this happened. Wow.
Te 80s and early 90s are when Toronto changed. That is when swarming became a huge problem and crack replaced pot. That big condo down there had big crooks too.
Not that I am a criminal but I am a lawless person and you don't steal from friends or local family owned business's and you certainly don't kill anyone when you are stealing something. A well thought out and planned job doesn't require any killing
Is Cathy McLeod and C. Geach the same person? Seems the editing team didn't account for her maiden name change that may confuse viewers. The eyes match. Regarding the vests, it's hard not seeing an officer wearing vests now in 2024. Even parking enforcement wear a vest.
I remember a guy i was in the Don Jail with in 1992 that was involved in a drug deal gone bad at the same motel. It was a drug deal done bad and he hog tide the guy and then slit his throat. He was sentenced 25 years.
I don't get how they only got a sentence that equates to 1 murder. With the second murder and all attempted murder on cops why wasnt the parol extended??
I was thinking the suspects sounded like they were from the 50s or 60s, it didn't sound like guys that young. I also wondered if they distorted their voices on purpose, but why bother now, this many years later? Interesting that we both thought the same!
It’s interesting how that Kathy police officer lady said that she had a dream about a shooting. And then stressed that she told everyone before it happened, and people just laughed at her…. so cringe. I’ve got employees who blame their tardiness on their zodiac sign, same shit. Obviously it’s a coincidence.
Oh 😮 i remember those seedy motels on lakeshore at park lawn.. Been there a few times 😅 i grew up in the 90's young buck living the dream.. funny i never heard of this crazy story tho.. 🤔🤔 driving a stolen porsche from BC to Toronto after 4 bank robberies,,?? WTF 😅😅😅😅 IM TELLING YOU IN THE 90'S YOU COULD GET AWAY WITH ANYTHING.. COPS WERE CLUELESS ... 💯 If they ditched the porsche before checking in the rainbow motel,,?? They would never of got caught💯 hookers and crack parties for months lol 😂😅🤣🤣💯💯💯💃
Makes both the Hollywood and Florida shootout of FBI , State, Local LEO's look like a little gun play. I lived just a few miles from the Rainbow Motel during & long time Etobicoke guy.
I live in Canada never heard of this one. Pretty neat to see all the footage and recordings from 91
Same here and I only live a few miles south of Nanaimo where the gun shop and killings happened and I found out about it just now
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Huh?????????????????????????
Same here
I was thinking the same thing
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The Canadian “justice” system is a joke! These guys should have never been let out
If I had a dollar every time I have read this statement online, heck, I would finally afford a detached home in Vancouver!
Trudolf and herr freelands liberal party care more about sending billions of our tax dollars to fund the neo Nazis militias in Ukraine 😂😂😂
The justice system is not the problem; it's the legal system. The justice system's hands are tied when the laws are weak.
this whole world is a joke , C'mon !
2 murders and a bunch of attempted murders on police officers and they are still given a chance to get out?
The max u can get here and that’s only for first degree murder is 25 years to life and you only serve 2/3 of that maybe less on good behaviour
,how ironic...😂😂😂😂😂
@@SelenaBrandt
No you’re wrong.
First degree murder conviction is a mandatory 25 years in prison before parole ELIGIBILITY. Then if released on parole they’re on parole until they die and if they break the conditions of their parole they go back to prison. Another thing is most convicted of first degree murder don’t get released after 25 years, I think the average is 32 years before release but im not certain about that.
For second degree murder conviction it’s also a life sentence but the judge determines the number of years before parole ELIGIBILITY.
For all other sentences you do 2/3 of your sentence before being released on Statutory release but only if you didn’t lose any good time while doing time.
Lol 😂 you forgot the half dozen bank robberies 😮.. welcome to Canada 💯 Gangsters paradise. If this was in America they would of got like 160 years .💯💯💯
I grew up in Toronto and never heard accents like this in my life.
The judge that sentenced them had it right in terms of his own opinion of what the sentence should be. The Canadian justice system is a JOKE
This is the most Canadian negotiation call ever :)
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@@Hutch-LL Google offered to Translate to English.
It still said: O
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Wow. Shook us up a bit! Thank you for uploading this. Very courageous officers.
Giving an interview while a shootout is happening. That requires an investigation of its own.
Hahahaha 👍🏻
@mochans, when translating to English, you lose a ha 😂😂😂
The guy is probably an Army Vet. Lol
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Only in Canada can a person be found guilty of double first degree homicide and return to the streets. We badly NEED justice reform in this country
The U.S does the same .They put two charges together.
@@paulinev1757The point was that a double murderer was released to reoffend, not that charges were combined
@@guyincognito7442 when did he reoffend
@@guyincognito744229 years for 2 ppl lives! Wonder what the guy who gained release is doing , maybe the govt gave him a job at Canada Post or a job nobody wants to do! LOL!!!
Ya one’s been out for 8 years now. The other one was eligible too but didn’t want to leave jail ?
Why should he? Everything’s probably free. He’s was probably highly revered and respected by younger thugs in there, too. It probably really is a Club Fed atmosphere. What a joke Canadas justice system is! 😮😮😮
Eligible for parole? wa....Canadian laws are really screwed up.
The Canadian punishment is extremely Irish 😂😂😂😂
Canadian punishment 😂😂😂
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😂😂😂i cant believe how much of a joke canadian system is. These not so petty theives who packed serious firepower,they tried to take the officers out, they had no captive yet the officers tried negotiation? And then they were captured and then let out? Seriously?
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How tf they dig thru the floor
I'm ashamed the police treated that poor mom that way
The justice system is a joke, they need to be held accountable for releasing scumbags. Shame on all the work the justice system.
My mom and 2nd husband used to manage the Rainbow motel late 70s till roughly 85. Slept in that room many times lol. Watching this was creepy and ironic that a few yrs later this happened. Wow.
Great coverage
It’s called shooting from the prone position when you lay down.
Te 80s and early 90s are when Toronto changed. That is when swarming became a huge problem and crack replaced pot. That big condo down there had big crooks too.
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"Twenty five minutes of pressure and fear. " This broad has been waiting forever to say those lines!! 😂😂😂
So he's out? Pretty big crimes no? 2 mrdrs of the couple and a shootout? 🤷♂
She was full and spit and vinegar 😂😂😂
Also, this was the dumbest negotiation i ever heard .
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The gun shop is now a motorcycle shop.
Still there same bars on the doors and windows.
Not that I am a criminal but I am a lawless person and you don't steal from friends or local family owned business's and you certainly don't kill anyone when you are stealing something. A well thought out and planned job doesn't require any killing
Im calling the feds
Very interesting but sad episode
Talk about not prepared,having to boost truck, bad breaks,slow moving,
I lived down the street, this happened when I was a child - I have no recollection 🤷🏻♀️
That’s an ambush these officers were facing . Come one you could call for help etc.
Not one cop was wearing a gloves when holding the guns in their hands...
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Sick when that happens.😮
@Bullit So u could here the gunshot sound from your place?
I never heard of this before
quite dumb not to wait for them to leave the room
that room was trashed
From Nanaimo to Etobicoke going coast to coast Oh jeez eh
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Whats the police training like in Canada..? Lol
Same as trump 's security team.
I guess fingerprint forensics weren't very important back then ey. cops handling the weapons and bullets and casings without gloves. 🤣
I think it was quite obvious that they knew who was in possession of them.
@@Chaos_ not good enough reason. there are crime scene protocols no matter what.
@@haroot.azarian LOL
@@haroot.azarian….😂..lol. Ya they saw who did it but no fingerprint….gets thrown out…..lol
Ha😂😂😂😂😂..My thoughts exactly...😂😂😂😂
It's not Etobicoke anymore?
Is Cathy McLeod and C. Geach the same person? Seems the editing team didn't account for her maiden name change that may confuse viewers. The eyes match.
Regarding the vests, it's hard not seeing an officer wearing vests now in 2024. Even parking enforcement wear a vest.
Geez. Also I hope female officers are better trained to deal with this now
25 yrs. Is Far Too Lenient !
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I remember a guy i was in the Don Jail with in 1992 that was involved in a drug deal gone bad at the same motel. It was a drug deal done bad and he hog tide the guy and then slit his throat. He was sentenced 25 years.
I live in Nanaimo. I remember the murders at the gun shop & rifles taken. We all though it was the Hells Angels.
TO police have had to sharpen up since then - had to boost the rescue vehicle - politeness of the officers - oh boy
Typical Canadian police...must have interrupted your coffee break
What are they doing with their lives now?
Canadian laws are awesome 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love the easy going negotiations but I think your justice system is a bit soft. 😊
I don't get how they only got a sentence that equates to 1 murder. With the second murder and all attempted murder on cops why wasnt the parol extended??
Why in old recordings do some guys voices sound so creepy not even real one of the suspects when they were negotiating sounded like that lol
I was thinking the suspects sounded like they were from the 50s or 60s, it didn't sound like guys that young.
I also wondered if they distorted their voices on purpose, but why bother now, this many years later?
Interesting that we both thought the same!
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this was a good one. something a little different u could say for once. tnks nanc
It’s interesting how that Kathy police officer lady said that she had a dream about a shooting. And then stressed that she told everyone before it happened, and people just laughed at her…. so cringe. I’ve got employees who blame their tardiness on their zodiac sign, same shit. Obviously it’s a coincidence.
Cops sure ruined this one too
Vince Carter was the one to put Toronto on the map.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Some strange half english and belfast and half canadian accents here lol
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@SelenaBrandt 2021 is only 3 years ago, starting full parole, according to the vlog story narration!
@Haroot.azarian And this was 4.5 yrs before OJ Simpson "unaliving" Nicole Brown n Goldman
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This is what happened when the judge and the police and the justice system went to make a new crime scene this is what happened
@Brobertson Quote:: Whitey Bulger! " I never killed( unalived) anyone that didnt deserve it!" LoL
The vinegar is all gone now!
This is like a movie. Horrifying 😮😮
Toronto is no joke...
Most of the accents sound british/irish?🤭
Old guys always say young and then say gentlemen violent offenders that is confusing they are not gentleman any more
Oh 😮 i remember those seedy motels on lakeshore at park lawn.. Been there a few times 😅 i grew up in the 90's young buck living the dream.. funny i never heard of this crazy story tho.. 🤔🤔 driving a stolen porsche from BC to Toronto after 4 bank robberies,,?? WTF 😅😅😅😅 IM TELLING YOU IN THE 90'S YOU COULD GET AWAY WITH ANYTHING.. COPS WERE CLUELESS ... 💯 If they ditched the porsche before checking in the rainbow motel,,?? They would never of got caught💯 hookers and crack parties for months lol 😂😅🤣🤣💯💯💯💃
Sounds like youve been up to no good most of your life too 😂
This is so sad happy that cop mama made it for her babies so freakin sad unnecessary 😢thoughtless
@Razadaza Trained to not b single mothers?
LOL @ the comments from the Yanks.
Life. Only to be released back into society in their thirties.
@diffentlystill Well Toronto. Is on the water, ie Lake Ontatio,I think! Toronto , the ass-hole of Canada
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Judge was way out of line
Love Trudeau catch n release program
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Makes both the Hollywood and Florida shootout of FBI , State, Local LEO's look like a little gun play. I lived just a few miles from the Rainbow Motel during & long time Etobicoke guy.
Prime example why women should not be police officers on the front line?
Typical police stack charges
The vinegar is all gone now!
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